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The Gospel Of Love

Why do Christians so easily get into the flesh against one another instead of practicing God's command to love one another?

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 ---Darlene_1 on 12/1/14
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Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud.It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs.Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth.It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.
1 Corinthians 13:4-7

God is love, and this is what God is like, and love will win out in the end.
---learner2 on 3/4/15


Deuteronomy 6:5
And thou shalt love the LORD thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy might.

In the Old Testament it was based on love also.

Rom 13:8-10

Owe no man any thing, but to love one another: for he that loveth another hath fulfilled the law.
For this, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not kill, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness, Thou shalt not covet, and if there be any other commandment, it is briefly comprehended in this saying, namely, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
Love worketh no ill to his neighbour: therefore love is the fulfilling of the law.

We are to act in love which leads us to keep the Commandments.
---Samuelbb7 on 2/16/15


TRUE LOVE is not FORCED, it is by choice (TRUE LOVE is what God wants). The commands (orders) were for THE JEWS to "obey" (we are to be "lovers of goodness", Titus 1:8) instead of needing TO BE COMMANDED/ordered to do goodness.....the same with LOVE for God and the same goes for 'loving' your fellow human being.

The important understanding about the word and concept of "LOVE" as used by God in scripture is that it refers to how we HAVE REGARD FOR EACH OTHER. Do not "love"/regard others MORE than you have regard for yourself.....ONLY love other people the SAME as you have regard for yourself.


...do you kiss yourself or shower yourself with gifts, compliments, etc..
---faithforfaith on 2/14/15


Galatians 2:11 But when Peter was come to Antioch, I withstood him to the face, because he was to be blamed.

I believe it depends on the situation at hand. I would never say Paul loved God too little, but actually quite the opposite. Paul in Galatians was contending for the faith, and the cross was being compromised by Peter's actions, as we also read in Galatians. There is nothing wrong with standing up for the truth regardless of any situation.

One can be angry, and express their anger, and sin not. Anger isn't one of the fruits of the spirit....BUT isn't forbidden.

I think a good guideline would be to say....if confronting someone...first be willing to face their wrath, even unto death....Jesus did, Stephen did....
---kathr4453 on 12/15/14


"Get into the flesh" is a euphenism describing a spirit intending evil, intensely influencing a Christian into behaving against God's stated will.

Stated another way, "The devil made me do it."

It is astonishing how many Christians do not resist the devil as did Jesus in Matt 4. The inability to resist is from a lack of repetitive teaching. We must be consistently reminded to rebuff demonic attacks.

The unwillingness to fight the fight of resistance is a result of loving God too little, and instead loving too much the notions of revenge and giving them a piece of our mind.

Please pray Christians to do a better job of resisting Satan and his devils.
---aservant on 12/13/14




My answer is God loved us before the foundation of the world.
---kathr4453 on 12/11/14

Inline scripture backs you.
Deu_10:15 Only the LORD had a delight in thy fathers to love them, and he chose their seed after them, even you above all people, as it is this day.
Deu_14:2 For thou art an holy people unto the LORD thy God, and the LORD hath chosen thee to be a peculiar people unto himself, above all the nations that are upon the earth.
Psa_33:12 Blessed is the nation whose God is the LORD, and the people whom he hath chosen for his own inheritance.
Psa_106:5 That I may see the good of thy chosen, that I may rejoice in the gladness of thy nation, that I may glory with thine inheritance.
---Trav on 12/12/14


Amen Kathr



It seems that there are REAL REASONS to love Him other than OBEDIENCE.

Try LOVE FROM THE HEART AND MIND.

---faithforfaith

The obedience comes about because we do love GOD and we also love our fellow humans. Many who may hurt us and put us down. So them we love because what GOD has done for us.


Mat 5:44

But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you,

Agape
---Samuelbb7 on 12/11/14


1 John 4:19 We love him, because he first loved us.

Well, this is what John said. WHEN did God first love us? My answer is God loved us before the foundation of the world. This is not obedience or dutiful obedience, but revelation of God and WHY God created us in the first place. So Romans 5 says, the LOVE OF GOD IS SHED ABROAD IN OUR HEARTS BY THE HOLY SPIRIT. So with the Holy Spirit, God's love, brings revelation of what all this LOVE encompasses. And when we SEE through revelation of that love ( read Ephesians 3:14-28 or to the end for that revelation) you are blown away. OUR love is a supernatural love in ONENESS with God in Christ as we are being conformed to His Image. FAITH that works through LOVE....
---kathr4453 on 12/11/14


We SHOULD NOT love God because He first loved us (or for any other reason that we are TOLD to love Him for).

I do not love ANYONE because I am SUPPOSED TO, I will only love who I wish to.....IF I want to (for MY OWN reason....FREE WILL).

If you WANT to love God, LOVE HIM IN YOUR HEART AND MIND (do you like CREATION?...then APPRECIATE/love Him).

How about SALVATION...that was nice, wasn't it?...appreciate that too!).

How about THE SPIRIT?...WOW! again!).

It seems that there are REAL REASONS to love Him other than OBEDIENCE.

Try LOVE FROM THE HEART AND MIND.
---faithforfaith on 12/11/14


We love JESUS and GOD because they first loved us. JESUS died to save us and ever lives to make intercession for us.

So our love is the result of what GOD has done. We are then to love others because GOD loves them too.
---Samuelbb7 on 12/11/14




We have been taught that "love" must be OBEYED and should be COMMANDED and FORCED out (the kingdom of God is FORCED by those who are insincere and it suffers violence). True "love" can only be given FREELY, it is not something that we can FORCE/OBEY. For someone to honestly receive "love"/hospitality sentiment from us, we should not be OBEYING A COMMAND. It is by the mere fact that we OBEY in order to have regard for our fellow human being that we misunderstand what love is and how to have GENUINE "love". (God does not "OBEY", His love comes NATURALLY). Tell your girlfriend or boyfriend that you only have regard for them because you are trying to be a good person, then you will understand.
---faithforfaith on 12/8/14


What's your point, Trav: other than the ones that make it hard for you to find hats that fit, i mean.
---Cluny on 12/8/14

Point is you had no point.
Maybe beyond your understanding, right now.
Their refusal and blindness was... well, never mind, just another mystery for you to ponder.
Post more latin, helps you to appear more intelligent...ha,(unless one researches it)
Rom_11:11 I say then, Have they stumbled that they should fall? God forbid: but rather through their fall salvation is come unto the "ETHNO's (Nth House Israel), for to provoke them to jealousy.
---Trav on 12/8/14


What's your point, Trav: other than the ones that make it hard for you to find hats that fit, i mean.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 12/8/14


The Pharisees wrapped themselves up in scripture, too. What good did it do them?
---Cluny on 12/6/14

Their "blind" errors were/is Nth House blessing. If corrected they had/have same tree graft option as Nth House.
Joh_1:11 He came unto his own, and his own received him not.
Matt 10:06/Matt 15:24.
Rom 11:18 Boast not against the branches. But if thou boast, thou bearest not the root, but the root thee.
Rom 11:19 Thou wilt say then, The branches were broken off, that I might be graffed in.
Rom 11:20 Well, because of unbelief they were broken off, and thou standest by faith. Be not highminded, but fear:
Rom 11:21 For if God spared not the natural branches, take heed lest he also spare not thee.
---Trav on 12/8/14


Thank you Adetunji,I hope it provoked thought. Kathr I see your point,yes God will punish those who turn their back on Him. People turn their backs on God and treat other Christian Brothers and Sisters very badly because they do not love the way God commands us to. There's no assumption that all are are Brothers,I mean Christians. God's wrath is only fueled when people don't obey His Word and His will then they reap what they sow. Trav thank you for such nice words. Elena Your welcome, Without love the Bible says we don't belong to God. So love is a guide and a perfecter of our life and God's command it divides the flesh from the Spirit. God Bless
---Darlene_1 on 12/6/14


But Steveng has no righteous views. He never quotes it, unless you, Trav, are another screen name for Steveng.

The Pharisees wrapped themselves up in scripture, too. What good did it do them?
---Cluny on 12/6/14

But, then...your opinon not proof.
I'm not Steveng, but stand with his truths rather than fall by your opinions.
He quotes scripture. He recognizes abominations...especially in office. He's one of the few that recognize the denom's today are businesses for the most part and would rather be apart than part of false hood.
He's intelligent and discerning recognizing and offering you truth, which you slander with no witness for proof.
---Trav on 12/6/14


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\\you prefer scripture didn't appear around Steveng's righteous views.\\

But Steveng has no righteous views. He never quotes it, unless you, Trav, are another screen name for Steveng.

The Pharisees wrapped themselves up in scripture, too. What good did it do them?

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 12/6/14


And prayerfully prepare to relate in love and good example... helped me to stay out of arguing.
---comfy on 12/5/14

And you used scripture. This is the authority for all of here right? Well no as you will find.
When scripture makes some angry...and multiple scripture make them even angrier...
2Pe_3:2 That ye may be mindful of the words which were spoken before by the holy prophets, and of the commandment of us the apostles of the Lord and Saviour:
1Pe 1:12 Unto whom it was revealed, that not unto themselves, but unto us they did minister the things, which are now reported unto you by them that have preached the gospel unto you with the Holy Ghost sent down from heaven, which things the angels desire to look into.
---Trav on 12/6/14


That's because Sola Scriptura is YOUR rule, not mine, and I don't have to follow it.
---Cluny on 12/5/14

Another saddening layer peeled.
In your poor attempt at a public flogging of Steveng...you prefer scripture didn't appear around Steveng's righteous views. Against him on this matter is against me/many.
Being a public blog open for comment, and you against everything scriptural, anticipate me participating.
Amo_3:7 Surely the Lord GOD will do nothing, but he revealeth his secret unto his servants the prophets.
Luk_16:31 he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead.
---Trav on 12/6/14


==You rarely show/refer too scripture.
==

That's because Sola Scriptura is YOUR rule, not mine, and I don't have to follow it.

In any case, I think Steveng is capable of defending himself. He doesn't need you to speak up for him.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 12/5/14


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Ones fighting and exalting themselves above others are not necessarily Christians. Even the disciples fought with each other, and Jesus never give up on them. But He gave them what they needed. We can follow this example, having hope for anyone, not giving up on anyone.

"nor as being lords over those entrusted to you, but being examples to the flock." (1 Peter 5:3)

I have been getting more into first praying when a person is a problem for me. And in prayer I first need correction so I am not only criticizing and imagining how to control someone. And pray for how God is able to bless and correct the person. And prayerfully prepare to relate in love and good example. This has helped me to stay out of arguing.
---comfy on 12/5/14


"Why do Christians so easily get into the flesh against one another instead of practicing God's command to love one another?

Darlene, "The spirit indeed is willing, but the flesh is weak."
---Josef on 12/5/14


But you don't teach straight out of the Bible, Steveng.
---Cluny on 12/4/14

You saying you do Cluny?
You rarely show/refer too scripture.
So how are you a judge of Steveng? If you have a discernment show it.
Mal 3:16 Then they that feared the LORD spake often one to another: the LORD hearkened, and heard it, a book of remembrance was written before him for them that feared the LORD, and that thought upon his name.
Mal 3:17 they shall be mine, saith the LORD of hosts, in that day when I make up my jewels, I will spare them, as a man spareth his own son that serveth him.
Mal 3:18 Then shall ye return, and discern between the righteous and the wicked, between him that serveth God and him that serveth him not.
---Trav on 12/5/14


\\If Jesus were on these blogs, most of you would not recognize Him for He wouldn't conform to your ideology.\\

You don't think that YOU or your worldly denominational "church" of Steveng would recognize the REAL Jesus, do you?

I assure you that that He doesn't conform to your ideology.

\\If a person teaches straight from the bible, \\

But you don't teach straight out of the Bible, Steveng.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 12/4/14


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If Jesus were on these blogs, most of you would not recognize Him for He wouldn't conform to your ideology.

If a person teaches straight from the bible, most of you would flame him for he doesn't conform to your denominational "church's" ideology.
---Steveng on 12/4/14


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---comfy on 12/4/14


Trav if you're speaking to me about rebuke I must assure you it wasn't a rebuke but just a method ...
---Darlene_1 on 12/3/14

I do agree with you. Your gentle and loving attitude testify. Your post brought up the love scriptures...towards our brothers/sisters. Even love to our enemies. I love my scriptural/religous enemies,...they make scriptural "good news" come alive to the "sheep". I love my real enemies for by them we are justified.
But, discerning is important. Christ did not gently remove the money changers...and the animals he declared in truth as such. Not all are spiritual brothers/sisters.
Luk_12:51 Suppose ye that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, Nay, but rather division:
---Trav on 12/4/14


Darlene1, what you posted is only one smidgen of what God expects from us. It's not all peace love dove. What about, " after two or three admonitions REJECT.

I think there may be a liberal assumption that EVERYONE is our brother. When in fact we have warnings all through out scripture about imposters sneaking in for the reason of bringing in heresy. And when you read the 7 Letters in Revelation to the Church, there is a much clearer picture from Jesus to His Churches ...and the main theme is not about loving one another. I see it's about staying TRUE to the faith, not being deceived, and obedience to God's will and truth so that you won't be ashamed at His appearing. Many today believe they are in need of nothing.
---kathr4453 on 12/4/14


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Trav if you're speaking to me about rebuke I must assure you it wasn't a rebuke but just a method to let us all think more seriously about our behavior,especially toward our Spiritual family. There are lots of verses warning God's people to walk in love and the Spirit and not the flesh. The Bible tells us clearly walk in the Spirit and you will not fulfill the lust of the flesh and arguments are of the flesh. We are also told Beloved let us love one another for love is of God and he that loves knows God,he who doesn't love knows not God 1 John 4:7 & 8.
---Darlene_1 on 12/3/14


Cluny

Rabbi was a title meaning great one or honorable sir.

Teacher is not from the word Rabbi. So we can have and call people teachers and Elders or Bishops. But we are not to honor men as if they were infallible and had all the answers.

So both verses are correct when you actually do a comparison and just a little research.

Agape
---Samuelbb7 on 12/3/14


Why do Christians so easily get into the flesh against one another instead of practicing God's command to love one another?
----Darlene_1 on 12/1/14

For your rebuke to benefit the intended, be specific like Christ.
You don't throw pearls and T-bones to your backyard fox, dog, wolf, swine.
Christ discerned for us the fox, dogs, swine, serpents/vipers, wolves, doves, sheep, goats. Christians are to discern accordingly ...
Mat_23:33 Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers,...
Luk_13:32 he said unto them, Go ye, and tell that fox, Behold,...
Php_3:2 Beware of dogs beware of evil workers, beware of the concision.
Mat_7:6 Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine,...
---Trav on 12/3/14


\\Matt 23:8,10
you are not to be called rabbi, for you have ONE teacher,\\

1 Corinthians 12:28
And God hath set some in the church, first apostles, secondarily prophets, thirdly teachers

Which verse is correct, Haz?

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 12/3/14


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Darlene_1:

This is a very good question.
I think this can be due to some related reasons like:
(1) Losing focus on what God would have us to do most of the time and doing what is preferred John 15:21.
(2) Not being poor in the spirit (assuming all the good things in us, ideas, knowledge, accomplishments etc were self-made and not God-made) Matt.5:3. Luke 12:16-21.
(3) Lack of understanding of what the Spirit of God is like Matt.11:29, Romans 14:17-19.
---Adetunji on 12/3/14


//any teacher must be recognized as such by the student//---learner2

Matt 23:8,10
you are not to be called rabbi, for you have ONE teacher, you are all students....Nor are you to be called instructors, for you have ONE instructor, the Messiah
We're all students (at differing stages of growth) discussing scripture, ... According to Jesus, only he is the teacher/instructor.
---Haz27 on 12/2/14

Amen with both you guys. By pointing to scripture when applicable witnessed by other scriptures...the argument or learning is with GOD's appointed.
When scriptures make one angry... it tells eventually what is going on with the angered individual. Always fearfully amazed at those who argue with prophets or shun them!!
---Trav on 12/2/14


But learner2, I'm not giving my personal opinions.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 12/1/14


To.Darlene1, thankyou put this out here, the Lord asmonishes always all though the bible, to seek.be forgiving love one another.Forgiveness, all the fruits, everything the Lord speaks, does in.the Bible based on Trust God, forgive and love one another.How can two walk together except they be in agreement ??? See Amos3:3
We are taught to.put away "our old man we kno' he raised hell!"
Christ came to give us life and more abundantly, not fight and argue.
Love of Jesus!
---Elena_9555 on 12/2/14


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Unguided emotion. lack of watchfulness.the bible says watch and pray.
---Eno_Asuquo on 12/2/14


//any teacher must be recognized as such by the student//---learner2

Matt 23:8,10
you are not to be called rabbi, for you have ONE teacher, and you are all students....Nor are you to be called instructors, for you have ONE instructor, the Messiah

We're all students (at differing stages of growth) discussing scripture, as I'm sure nobody here sees another blogger as their teacher, nor does anyone here claim to be a teacher, as far as I know. According to Jesus, only he is the teacher/instructor.
---Haz27 on 12/2/14


Cluny, any teacher must be recognized as such by the student in order to be listened to. On this site there are no teachers, only people with personal opinions, including you and me.
---learner2 on 12/1/14


Regarding the meaning of love, we need to know whether the word is about a feeling or an action or both. The King James Version uses the word Charity. "God so loved the world" has both feeling and action.
---Geraldine on 12/1/14


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I would say that we still do not know The Father's love for us.

If we knew His love, and saw The Father's heart in the heart of the father within the story of the Prodigal Son, we could rest in that love knowing that He loves us, He likes us, and He will never change His mind about us.

We do not have to strive to meet His demands, do everything right according to religious rules, nor do we have to live by The Law. The church has been striving for so long, like the older brother in the prodigal Son.

The Father has already given us everything He has. We should rest in that.
---Mark_Eaton on 12/1/14


When a teacher corrects a spelling mistake or math error of a child, is this teacher not showing love? Or is love being withheld?

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 12/1/14


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