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Jesus Forty Days Wilderness

What purpose was served by Jesus going into the wilderness for forty days and forty nights before beginning His ministry?

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Matt 4:1 . . . Jesus led up of the Spirit into the wilderness to be tempted of the devil.
2 . . . fasted forty days and forty nights,

Luke 4:1 . . . was led by the Spirit into the wilderness,
2 Being forty days tempted of the devil . . .

>give advantage to Satan (by waging internal Spiritual warfare on Satan's turf)

>be tempted by Satan, to prove
--which of the promises (God or Satan) Jesus would trust,
--to which leader's words (God or Satan) Jesus would submit,
--whether the authority (will) of God or Satan would win this Spiritual battle,
--to whom Jesus would eternally serve as His master
--the eternal faithfulnees of Jesus to His Father, Almighty God.
---aservant on 12/13/14

1st cliff...I feel ya. I try to keep my windows open. Sometimes try to post again. Sometimes change a word or two.

In the long run, it does not matter. If it's important enough, the wind blows.
---aka on 12/9/14

aka, When you go to a lot of trouble putting together a good reply to someone's question only to have it not posted,
Then I feel like throwing up my hands and saying "What's the use"!
---1stcliff on 12/9/14

I think He also was preparing for relating with all the people who would be with Him. ---comfy on 12/8/14

By Jesus being tempted, God was providing for this:

Heb. 4:15 " For we do not have a high priest who cannot sympathize with our weaknesses, but One who has been tempted in all things as we are, yet without sin"

We can trust Jesus when we struggle with temptation because He knows what it is like.

How many times have you said to someone "You don't know what I am going thru". Well, you cannot say that to Jesus, He knows. He has been there. And He can sympathize with us and feel with us because he has experienced it all.
---Mark_Eaton on 12/9/14

The purpose of the event was so Jesus would be TEMPTED just like MAN gets 'TEMPTED'.

In order for "temptation" to happen to Jesus, satan had to show all of the kingdoms of this world to Jesus from the perspective/reference point of "TIME" ("time" is man's perception of reality/existence.

Luke 4:5 "in a moment of TIME".

When Jesus came ti earth and hung in the cross, Jesus DESTROYED the satan and the power that it had over mankind. Jesus ended the age of time and began the age of ETERNITY ("TIME" has no limiting effect in God's world).....Jesus came in the "fulness of TIME"...(the completion and end of TIME.
---faithforfaith on 12/8/14

It says He was led by the Spirit into the wilderness, to be tempted by the devil.

But do we really think Jesus needed to fast for forty days before He could beat the devil?

I think He also was preparing for relating with all the people who would be with Him. And this preparation included being prepared to keep sharing with our Father while relating with all the personalities (c:

Like this, we need to prepare in prayer to relate well with any and all people . . . while staying submissive and sharing with our Father >

and with other Christians >

"submitting to one another in the fear of God." (Ephesians 5:21)
---comfy on 12/8/14

...the evangelicals believe Jesus was almighty God in the flesh, so as such, there was no reason for God to "psych up" for the devil's temptations![?] God cannot be tempted!...After 40 days God was hungry?? really??...
---1stcliff on 12/7/14

Cliff: God became man to die for our sins. Since no fallen man could redeem us from sin, God, by His infinite wisdom, resolved to become a man to accomplish what none other could do. God sent His son Jesus (God) to do that task. The Bible says Jesus was God & man simultaneously. Yet, He chose to humble Himself & function primarily in His humanity to accomplish the Father's will. As such He felt & experienced all that we do, i.e., temptation, etc., but, WITHOUT SIN!
---Leon on 12/8/14

Jesus was fully God, but he was also fully man thus he was subject to temptation, just as we are, but without sin. Hebrews 4:15b "but one who in every respect has been tempted as we are, yet without sin."
Paul describes it in Romans as the second Adam. If Jesus was or could not be tempted he would not be able to fullfill man's obedience to God as shown in Romans 5:19b "... so by the one man's obedience the many will be made righteous." For Adam failed when tempted but Christ surpassed temptation.
Take it practically would you take parental advice from someone without kids. Why would you take fighting off temptation from someone who has not or cannot be tempted.

---Scott1 on 12/8/14

God cannot be tempted !(neither does He tempt)
After 40 days God was hungry?? really ??
Don't shoot the messenger, just explain !
---1stcliff on 12/7/14

This is how I BEGIN to understand Jesus.

Phil 2:5-8 "Have this attitude in yourselves which was also in Christ Jesus, who, although He existed in the form of God, did not regard equality with God a thing to be grasped, but emptied Himself, taking the form of a bond-servant, and being made in the likeness of men. Being found in appearance as a man, He humbled Himself by becoming obedient to the point of death, even death on a cross"

Jesus emptied Himself. What did He empty? Perhaps some of the "Almighty God" attributes you struggle with.
---Mark_Eaton on 12/8/14

Cliff...thank you for admitting what the question is really about. neither interested in addressing the nature of the jws version of Christ's deity nor the evangalism.

Regarding scripture...You and I were just in the middle of talking about Peter's "time line" which you seem to have abandoned. See "Can Dead People Live"

Seems Noah's time in the ark was difficult as Jesus' time in the desert was (regardless of one's (dis)belief in jesus' deity). Seems like the same time period.

Luke 24:44 ESV

Then he said to them, These are my words that I spoke to you while I was still with you, that everything written about me in the Law of Moses and the Prophets and the Psalms must be fulfilled.
---aka on 12/8/14

"Very well spoken Josef" Thank you Leon. Father be praised.
---Josef on 12/7/14

Very well spoken Josef. The Bible shows Jesus, from childhood, was being prepared for ministry. He listened to, believed, internalized & spoke God's word faithfully. So, when the time came for His wilderness testing, He was mightily equipped to stand against the truth twisting devil & boldly speak what was truly written in Scripture. In this way, Jesus shows each of us who call Him savior & Lord what we must do to likewise defeat the wiles of the devil.
---Leon on 12/7/14

aka, 1st I don't know JWs explanation of this, nor do I care !
The problem here is that the evangelicals believe that Jesus was almighty God in the flesh, so as such, there was no reason for God to "psych up" for the devil's temptations !
God cannot be tempted !(neither does He tempt)
After 40 days God was hungry?? really ??
Don't shoot the messenger, just explain !
---1stcliff on 12/7/14

1stcliff biblically the wilderness experience is always a time of testing, or 'proving', as in "establishing the truth or genuineness of something, in this case faith, knowledge, and endurance, as by evidence or argument."

"Jesus [was] led of the Spirit into the wilderness to be tempted of the devil." >Mat 4:1

Therefore the purpose of the trial was for Him, as it is for us, to bring up and out of Him all that was within Him for His own examination. In addition to identify for us, the proper way of dealing with Satan's temptations. Satan, "It is written".
---Josef on 12/6/14

I do not know what the pseudo JWs believe, so why don't you tell us?

and be sure to change the rules of translation and the words that are actually used.
---aka on 12/6/14

Cluny, In other words you don't know huh?
---1stcliff on 12/6/14

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Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 12/6/14

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