I think an apology can be a way of asking forgiveness. So, I think it depends on the individual and your relationship and understanding that you have.
---com7fy8 on 3/14/15|
I agree it is two different things.
A - apologizes
B - forgives
A - works 40 hrs
B -pays / rewards for work done
So (A) should not ask for pay or reward before doing the work or the work is done.
1st John does not say, " if we ask for forgiveness, He is faithful and just to forgive. It says " If we confess our sin, He is faithful and just....
---kathr4453 on 3/10/15|
apology == make the statement of wrong doings
forgiveness == turned from the wrong doings
---ds on 3/6/15|
Id like to clarify my previous post. Both terms may be used interchangeably, means, by some, or in certain instances.
One may ask God's forgiveness in heart and mind even if they've never asked forgiveness from individuals. There is not always opportunity to do so for all instances. Most important is asking God and receiving. However, it may be important in relationships, to reconcile, or even as an example.
It also occurs to me that when one is sorry for past, they may desire to make restitution. There is not always opportunity to do so, or do so equivalently. Then, the intent is simply demonstrated by the desire being acted out in whatever means possible. Basically, that one who offended would now act in love.
---chria9396 on 3/7/15|
They are very different: an apology is what the person who has committed the offence offers to the person they have offended. It's up to the person offended to forgive, not the person who committed the offence, all the person who committed the offence can do is ASK for forgiveness not GIVE forgiveness.
---wivv on 3/6/15|
Good thought provoking question Kathr. Both terms may be used interchangeably
One can ask forgiveness or apologize without sincerity (without sorrow)maybe because its expected. One can do the same sincerely because one is sorry. The sorrow can be worldly or godly.If godly, then one will be or is repentant.2Cor7:10
Which would I rather have? If I do not take offense then do I need apology or one to ask forgiveness of me? Its about whether or not that one is repentant towards God, I do not "need"either, but would like to see,when/if it benefits the other and is important to reconcile.
As for complete, requires godly sorrow.
Apology may be sorry for what one has done, while asking forgiveness may be taking a step further
---chria9396 on 3/6/15|
Let's assume I apologized first. Does the nonchristian's act of forgiveness validly forgive?
---learner2 on 3/6/15|
I would say there is no difference really, both show sorrow for wrong doing and, regardless of how the offender words it, it is up to the offended as to whether they accept the apology and forgive. If we are the offender it is right for us to offer a sincere apology but it is then out of our hands.
Forgiving and forgetting don't go hand in hand for humans even though the bible tells us that God remembers our sins no more. We have longer memories than are good for us!
---Rita_H on 3/6/15|
We are to forgive one another, just as we are to love one another. It comes naturally as we walk in the Spirit of the life of Christ in us, towards ALL men, saved or lost, Just as we are told to love our enemy. BUT loving or forgiving our enemy doesn't make our enemy our friend or insure reconciliation with them. Walking in that love or forgivness frees US, not them. Loving or forgiving another is not something we should be asked TO DO by another. To be truly SORRY for some offense, and apologizing for that offense is all we need to do if we are the offender. I think of the verse " If we confess our sin, He is faithful and just to forgive us our sin and cleanse us from all unrighteousness. APOLOGIZE FIRST, and the rest will follow.
---kathr4453 on 3/6/15|
"...but if ye forgive not men their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses. but if ye forgive not men their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses." Matthew 6:15-16
2 Corinthians 2:10
2 Corinthians 12:13
I forgive you.
---Steveng on 3/5/15|
\\So if a nonchristian offers me forgiveness for something I did to harm him, I should not view it as forgiveness since he is not a Christian?
---learner2 on 3/5/15\\
Yes, especially if you did not apologize first.
Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 3/5/15|
So if a nonchristian offers me forgiveness for something I did to harm him, I should not view it as forgiveness since he is not a Christian?
---learner2 on 3/5/15|
"And be kind to one another, forgiving one another, even as God in Christ forgave you." (Ephesians 4:32)
So, yes, "even as God", we forgive each other (c: Jesus in us lives to have us forgiving in sharing with Him >
"I have been crucified with Christ, it is no longer I who live, but Christ lives in me, and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave Himself for me." (Galatians 2:20)
So, yes, in separation from God we are not worthy and able to forgive.
"But He who is joined to the Lord is one spirit with Him." (1 Corinthians 6:17)
Now that we are "one spirit with" Jesus, we live His forgiveness in His love (c:
---com7fy8 on 3/4/15|
If forgiveness is only God's business, does that mean that I don't have to forgive anyone?
---learner2 on 3/4/15|
Forgiveness is rightfully AND ONLY God's department (He has the sole right because His only BEGOTTEN Son gained that for the whole world, WE HAVEN'T).
We all are to let HIS GRACE be sufficient for us (if the other person is not going to do that, let them have it out with God).
Our forgiveness of each other is NOT what any God-lover should value (and it is a PERVERSION OF JUSTICE
... "DO NOT pervert justice" RSV.
What was told to the Jews 2,000 years ago does not apply to US. The Jews set themselves up as JUDGE (only a judge can "forgive").
---faithforfaith on 3/3/15|
What is the difference between an apology and asking for forgiveness?
---kathr4453 on 3/3/15
When making an apology (I prefer making an amend) the responsibility is totally on the person who is making the apology. You are admitting fault, you are contrite, and you wish to bring the relationship back into good standing. With an amend you take it one step further and bring evidence that you will never do this again to anyone.
However, when you ask for forgiveness, you are placing the responsibility on the other person. You are asking them to forgive you, to absolve you of the responsibility of the wrong act. Forgiveness is not your right. Forgiveness is between them and God.
---Mark_Eaton on 3/3/15|
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For all practical purposes, they are the same in contemporary English, though "apology" comes from the Latin "apologia" meaning defense or explanations.
As to which you would rather have, be a mature Christian and be the FIRST to offer forgiveness and reconciliation.
Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 3/3/15|