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Is Playing Bingo Wrong

Is playing bingo wrong? I had a discussion with some people that attend my church. Some say its ok for others but not for them. Isn't it still gambling? even in a church? going to Casinos?

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 ---beverly on 3/26/15
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Beverly: Is playing bingo an act of one having "faith" (trusting) in God or is it a game of "chance", trusting in whatever will be (luck)?
---Leon on 10/7/15


Apology accepted, Micha.

Christians shouldn't be BITTER towards each others.

Jesus wouldn't like it.

Let go of the past and live for Jesus' Kingdom
---Nicole_Lacey on 9/12/15


My apologies, Nicole.
I won't be judgmental, hypocritical, and two-faced by calling people sexist and then telling others not to judge.
---micha9344 on 9/12/15


Take a struggling neighbor or fellow believer out for dinner,
At least you won't be cussing at the bingo card, or wanting to build bigger closets. ---micha9344 on 9/11/15

My dear, take your confessions to a Priest or an Elder of your Church.

We don't need to know your habits.

Your sins are between you and God.

We try not to judge on this website.

We are CHRISTIANS
---Nicole_Lacey on 9/11/15


/If I play bingo with MY MONEY and still pay more than my tithe asked of God plus pay all my bills what is it to you?\
-Well, as long as you're doing more good than evil, I guess. Luke 18:11-12
/You might buy your 16th pair of shoes this year with your money.
Who is wrong you and me?\-Nicole_Lacey on 9/11/15
Both?...
Why not take the money used for shoes and bingo to a homeless shelter?
Take a struggling neighbor or fellow believer out for dinner,
At least you won't be cussing at the bingo card, or wanting to build bigger closets.
---micha9344 on 9/11/15




The question is: Is playing bingo wrong? NO

Are you asking is playing bingo for MONEY WRONG?

Everyone is debating the wrong question.

Adopting is not wrong.
Buying Children is wrong.

Buying food isn't wrong.
Stealing food is wrong.

Playing cards with buddies isn't wrong.

Playing cards with buddies, and not going to church is wrong.

If I play bingo with MY MONEY and still pay more than my tithe asked of God plus pay all my bills what is it to you?

You might buy your 16th pair of shoes this year with your money.
While I chose to buy one pair of shoes this year, and use the same amount of monies your 15 pair of shoes cost to play bingo.

Who is wrong you and me?
---Nicole_Lacey on 9/11/15


\\To play a game of chance does not sound like the way God would appoint a new disciple.\\

Where is that in THE BIBLE, Rita?

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 9/11/15


Rita_H:

You said: I find it hard to believe that God did not have input into the choice. To play a game of chance does not sound like the way God would appoint a new disciple.

That doesn't necessarily follow. Urim and Thummim were used by the high priest in the old testament to cast lots, presumably guided by the will of God (who can alter outcomes as he chooses). The use of lots means the outcome is determined by a process that, normally, is mathematically neutral, so that it is impossible to have accusations of personal bias. The result is either determined by God (if he intervenes), or impartially random (if he doesn't), and man's will doesn't come into play.
---StrongAxe on 4/7/15


Rita, as I'm sure you well know, the Bible is not a dictionary. It says they cast lots. You are free to pick up a dictionary or an encyclopedia, or just google it for that matter, and look up what casting lots means. It has nothing to do with voting as you suggest. It's okay to admit you were wrong. You don't have to try to blame someone else for the fact that you don't know what the word "lots" means.
---Jed on 4/7/15


Jed "The outcome was a matter of chance, not votes" I wasn't asking where I would find the biblical narrative, I was asking where it said the words between inverted commas. I've read the narrative often.

I find it hard to believe that God did not have input into the choice. To play a game of chance does not sound like the way God would appoint a new disciple.

Maybe some people here believe that God goes with them to bingo and the casino and the race tracks etc. and approves of all they do there.
---Rita_H on 4/7/15




Jed, "The outcome was a matter of chance, not votes." Please guide me to where I can find that information. I have never heard that before (or read it) so please help me on this.
---Rita_H on 4/6/15


Yes. The Bible says they cast lots, not voted. I'm sorry if you've never read about it. This tradition happened on more than one occasion in the Bible. As StrongAxe correctly pointed out, casting lots is a process similar to rolling dice or drawing straws. It's where the term lottery comes from. It's a process of chance. Has nothing to do with voting.
---Jed on 4/6/15


Rita_H:

You wrote: Strongaxe "the apostles cast lots". I have always thought that 'casting lots' meant the same as casting votes.

Actually, casting lots is a totally random process, very similar to rolling dice, or drawing straws. "lot" is where we get the word "lottery" from.

Google "casting lots" for more information.
---StrongAxe on 4/6/15


Jed, "The outcome was a matter of chance, not votes." Please guide me to where I can find that information. I have never heard that before (or read it) so please help me on this.
---Rita_H on 4/6/15


RitaH, I guess you've always thought wrong. Casting lots is not the same as casting votes. Voting is not part of the process. It was more like a lottery. The outcome was a matter of chance, not votes.
---Jed on 4/6/15


Strongaxe "the apostles cast lots". I have always thought that 'casting lots' meant the same as casting votes. They'd all have a choice and the one whose name was written down or said vocally the most (I don't know which it might have been) was the name chosen. Not unlike the choice we have here in the U.K. next month when we vote for our new politicians.

No money changes hands (I hope!) at such an event and I never imagined that it might have when 'they cast lots' to choose a replacement for Judas either.
---Rita_H on 4/6/15


Rita_H:

You said: This was done to help them make a decision NOT for monetary gain.

So it isn't the "game of chance" that is inherently wrong. Taking a chance on monetary gain (e.g. by investing, starting a start-up company, etc.) isn't wrong either. So why is combining the two wrong, when neither one is wrong in and of itself?
---StrongAxe on 4/4/15


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"Rita_H:

The Roman soldiers gambled for Jesus's clothes (which is, admittedly, no mark of approval). However, the apostles cast lots to determine who should replace Judas."

This was done to help them make a decision NOT for monetary gain. It is similar to a person flipping a coin and saying "Heads it's him and tails it's her" etc.
---Rita_H on 4/4/15


Eating and drinking are legitimate pleasures, but if carried too far, they lead to the sins of gluttony and drunkeness.

The sin clearly lies in the degree these are done, not in the activities themselves.

Could the same the said for gambling?

Is there a difference between an office Super Bowl pool or men's poker night on the one hand and industrial strength gambling or gambling addiction on the other?

I don't know the answer. I'm just asking the question.

(BTW, gambling has no attraction for me, be it Bingo or Power Ball.)

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 4/3/15


Rita_H:

The Roman soldiers gambled for Jesus's clothes (which is, admittedly, no mark of approval). However, the apostles cast lots to determine who should replace Judas. They would not have done this if gambling were inherently wrong.
---StrongAxe on 4/3/15


RitaH, I don't have to prove that gambling is approved by God. YOU have to show that it is condemned, and you haven't. If there is no biblical law against it, then it isn't a sin. Is driving a car also a sin since you cant prove that it is specifically approved by God in the bible? Of course not. Since there is nothing in the bible which names it as a sin, then there is no sin in doing it.
---Jed on 4/3/15


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Jed and Strongaxe, I understand English perfectly well. Your points do not show that gambling is approved of by God. We can all play with words.

I feel that this website has become a place of arguments than of discussions and think that it is time I curtailed my input to just giving an initial answer to a question and then leave those who chose to argue to continue to the end.
---Rita_H on 4/3/15



Rita_H:

I think the point Jed is trying to make is the distinction between sleep (good) and sloth (bad), eating (good) and gluttony (bad), drinking (good) and drunkenness (bad), gambling (good) and gambling addiction (bad), etc. - that there are both reasonable and unreasonable levels of everything.
---StrongAxe on 4/1/15


^^^ Exactly. Just as sleep does not mean the same thing as sloth and eating does not mean the same thing as gluttony, neither does tasking a risk mean the same thing as poor stewardship. Although doing it irresponsibly CAN be poor stewardship, just as eating excessively can turn into gluttony and sleeping excessively can become slothfulness.
---Jed on 4/2/15


Rita_H:

I think the point Jed is trying to make is the distinction between sleep (good) and sloth (bad), eating (good) and gluttony (bad), drinking (good) and drunkenness (bad), gambling (good) and gambling addiction (bad), etc. - that there are both reasonable and unreasonable levels of everything.
---StrongAxe on 4/1/15


Jed, that has to be the most ridiculous argument I have EVER seen.

Since when did sleeping mean the same a slothfulness and since when did eating mean the same a gluttony?
---Rita_H on 4/1/15


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RitaH, the Bible also warns against gluttony and sloth. Does that mean it is a sin to eat or sleep?

If gamblibg is an addiction for you or you are so obsessed that you play irresponsibly, then it is a sin. But if you've got several thousand dollars in the bank and you want to spend a couple bucks on some lotto tickets, there's ni harm done.
---Jed on 4/1/15


1stcliff:

You said: Note how many suicides happen when there's a "crash" in the markets !

This is due to human greed, not market instability. If you have a stock that (say) loses half its value, you lose just half your investment. But if you buy 1000 shares of stock A at $1/share, then use those as collateral to buy 500 of stock B on margin, then use THOSE as collateral to buy 250 of stock C, etc., you are betting twice the money you have, and a 50% market drop wipes you out, and more than 50% puts you in debt. In 1929, many people were margined much more - betting 10x your collateral means a mere 10% drop will wipe you out, something no longer allowed.
---StrongAxe on 4/1/15


Rita, Many church goers here who don't smoke drink or gamble, play the "stock market" they call"investments", but there's no riskier gamble than that game.
Note how many suicides happen when there's a "crash" in the markets !
---1stcliff on 3/31/15


Jed - 1 Timothy 6:10 and Hebrews 13:5.

In addition the bible warns against 'get rich quick' ideas such as Proverbs 13:11 & 23:5 and Ecclesiastes 5:10.
---Rita_H on 3/31/15


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Jed, we are told to be good stewards of what God gives to us. If you choose to believe that gambling (in any form whatsoever) is being a good steward then that is up to you. For me I don't believe that it is.
---Rita_H on 3/30/15


Bingo is seductive, and thus dangerous to anyone who doesn't understand how that works.

When someone calls "BINGO!", most others have one or more rows of 4, one number from BINGO. This gives EVERYONE the illusory notion "I ALMOST won!", which encourages them to keep playing.

Slot machines are similar. Once on a business trip to Las Vegas, I had an hour to kill before my plane, so I spent the 85 cents in my pocket on slot machines. On my last spin, a row of 3 appeared directly above the line I was on - and would have won if I had been playing two coins. I "almost won". When I realized this, I suddenly understood the seductive hook these machines have, and it was a lesson worth much more than 85 cents!
---StrongAxe on 3/30/15


Beverly
I really don't know, but I do know someone who does.
Let the Holy Spirit guide you to the answer to your question.

Just before you go to your next game of Bingo, get by yourself, and confess your sins before God. If you feel guilty for going to the bingo game, then you will have your answer.

Why do you need to confess your sins first?
It's because sin separates us from God(Isaiah 59:2). And many, even though they don't realize it, have been separated, separated because they do not confess their sins. (1 John 1:9) is a promise from God, and if you confess you sins, then you will learn if what I say is the Truth.
---David on 3/29/15


Jed, you know very well that those other things are not sin so stop trying to use that argument to justify gambling.

Sin CAN be a part of all aspects of life (depending on how we conduct ourselves) but you are really clutching at straws here.
---Rita_H on 3/28/15


I'm clutching at straws? You're the one who is unable to explain what makes gambling a sin, other than to say "because you are taking a risk", which is true about most things in life that we all know are not sins. Which was my point. What's yours?
---Jed on 3/28/15


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Jed, you know very well that those other things are not sin so stop trying to use that argument to justify gambling.

Sin CAN be a part of all aspects of life (depending on how we conduct ourselves) but you are really clutching at straws here.
---Rita_H on 3/28/15


"handing over money in the hopes of 'winning' more involves risking losing the lot"
---Rita_Hr on 3/27/15


So does starting a business. Or giving a loan. Or investing. I guess those are all sins too.
---Jed on 3/27/15


Cluny - handing over money in the hopes of 'winning' more involves risking losing the lot also. This is not remotely similar to placing money in a savings account where the interest might be high or extremely low but, regardless of which it is, the capital invested remains - unless the bank goes bust and God will not see that as gambling otherwise He would not have mentioned that in the parable of the talents.
---Rita_Hr on 3/27/15


I can spend 20 dollars at a movie theater or 20 dollars at the casino. Personally I think casinos are more fun, just my personality.
---Scott1 on 3/27/15


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Like a sasvings account or certificate of deposit or even insurance?
---Cluny on 3/27/15

Good points.
All business is a gamble. All purchases are a gamble. Some have better odds of value or payback depending on the expectation.
Driving to the store or work has risk involved.
Eating a purchased meal is a calculated gamble. We can't see a germ/bacteria or 10 million of them. Food poisoning, energy for dollar spent, or just pure taste pleasure. Some deliver, some don't.
I find nothing in Scripture for or against gambling.
Apparently no one else has either.
---Trav on 3/27/15


So different than our Casinos where they supply free bus service plus a snack and monetary coupons that can only be used in the machines. No cash value !
---1stcliff on 3/27/15


Cliff,
A casino doesn't tell anyone what their intentions are.

Most would probably hope that you think they're just generous people. But there isn't anything written or stated explicitly.

They also know some people will simply take it and run. It's all figured into their bottom line
---James_L on 3/27/15


\\Cluny,Isn't that taking the cash card under false pretenses?\\

No. I'm allowed to spend the card any way I wish.

That's how I wish to do so.

**Anything involving handing over some money in the hopes of winning more is a form of gambling.
---Rita_H on 3/26/15**

Like a sasvings account or certificate of deposit or even insurance?

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 3/27/15


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Anything involving handing over some money in the hopes of winning more is a form of gambling.
---Rita_H on 3/26/15


Cluny,Isn't that taking the cash card under false pretenses?
Casinos are not known for their generosity, It is not their intention to give you a free bus ride,meal and soda with no obligation on your part....it's the honor system !
---1stcliff on 3/26/15


In the building where I live, which caters to seniors, from time to time there is a day trip to one of the many casinos in the area.

I take the complimentary cash card the casino gives me (with which they intend to lure me into gambling) and instead have a very nice meal.

I then settle down in a comfortable chair in a quiet lounge with a complimentary diet soda, a good book, and wait to go home.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 3/26/15


The danger in any game with losers is learning to enjoy seeming better than others. Anything that feeds the desire to appear superior hinders the equality Jesus taught. Almost every "game" does this.
---Geraldine on 3/26/15


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