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Death Penalty For Criminals

Should there be a death penalty imposed for convicted criminals in crimes involving the wrongful taking of innocent lives? If so, how should it be carried out?

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Leon, we already KNOW what you think, as you have stated over and over. Is this blog about what YOU think, or what others think as well?
---kathr4453 on 4/29/15


On a final note, I believe anyone who willfully & viciously raises Hell should catch Hell as a consequence (reward) for their lawlessness. Hell is a very real place as is Heaven. Just like believers can experience varying degrees of Heaven while living on Earth, persons who are resistant to God's authority over them likewise can & should experience Hell while yet living on Earth. Who knows, that may be a good thing & bring about a change of heart & redemptive conversion (salvation) before they die on Earth & go below to an irreversible Hell.
---Leon on 4/29/15


///...I believe there's another way to skin this cat. For the sake of justice, Tsarnaev's punishment should be life incarceration, without possibility of parole, locked away in a supermax. Strip him of name, forbid any visitors (total isolation from human contact, verbally or otherwise) ~ no radio, no TV, no internet, NO CONTACT WITH THE OUTSIDE WORLD. Allow him to have two books, i.e., the Koran & the Bible, & video access to the Boston bombing. Give him DEATH, but not as he imagines!
---Leon on 4/11/15///

I believe this is a viable solution to the problem...
---Leon on 4/25/15
---Leon on 4/26/15
---Leon on 4/29/15


Speaking of the Law, this may infuriate Leon, but this guy is a citizen of the U.S. Many question why he was not read his Miranda Rights, and is treated differently then Timothy McVeigh, a terrorist who mass murdered. To single out this person because he has a funny last name and a different religion Hummmm. Yes our emotional response would be....HOWEVER, for ALL American Citizens, we still need to safeguard our constitutional rights without exception, or else we may find one day OUR rights are taken away.....just like German Jews, who were in fact German Citizens.

He's guilty, and JUSTICE must be served. But let's not confuse JUSTICE with revenge. A good case of that would be the Hatfield and McCoys. Revenge leads nowhere.
---kathr4453 on 4/29/15


///Leon, do you think anyone in his right mind could love a God that tortured people forever? That would be impossible!---learner2 on 4/28/15///

L2: You insist on calling God a torturer. Why is that?

If you were in your right mind you would believe the word of God (the Bible) as He has made available to you, me & everyone else who may have an ear to hear what He says & means. It really doesn't matter what your finite mind thinks is "fair". God is just (righteous) whether or not you understand. He has said His infinite ways surpass all of our understanding. That's where faith (trust) comes in L2. But it's up to you to choose one way or the other.
---Leon on 4/28/15




The word of God said let every man be subject to his governing authorities. It means whose so ever violates governing authorities ordinances has violated God's ordinances. It is clear message that when the authorities instituted by God has pronounced a decision of law God will approve it immediately if God never wanted them it would not approved by God. Again the bible said there is a way seems good unto a man but the end is death and destruction. We don't question God why this statement was made because many have choose to be in a reprobate mind instead of doing the right thing. The laws of the land must be respected.
---Leonard_Nnaji on 4/28/15


Leon, do you think anyone in his right mind could love a God that tortured people forever? That would be impossible!
---learner2 on 4/28/15


///Leon, what you are proposing is torture. If you think Jesus would approve of that, then I will just leave you to your crazy beliefs.
---learner2 on 4/28/15///

L2: So, you believe Scripture is crazy? :) Again, it's obvious God's ways aren't yours. Would Jesus approve of that?
---Leon on 4/28/15


///Leon, what you are proposing is torture. If you think Jesus would approve of that, then I will just leave you to your crazy beliefs.
---learner2 on 4/28/15///

L2: So, you believe Scripture is crazy? :) Again, it's obvious God's ways aren't yours. Would Jesus approve of that?

What about Hell L2? It's a place of "total isolation" from God & the rest of His obedient people (creatures). It's a place of intense reflection where lost souls constantly think upon their sins. The Bible does indicate such thoughts can be self tormenting (agonizing regrets), but God tortures no one.
---Leon on 4/28/15


\\ Deu_19:21 And thine eye shall not pity, but life shall go for life, eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot. \\

Did you ever read what Jesus said about this matter?

Christ is risen!
---Cluny on 4/28/15




Leon, what you are proposing is torture. If you think Jesus would approve of that, then I will just leave you to your crazy beliefs.
---learner2 on 4/28/15


Do you mean IF SO, as In "Death penalty" HOW then is the question?
Hanging
Firing squad
Poison
Electric chair
Beheading
---kathr4453 on 4/23/15

Parents choice.
If indecisive, the inmates choice.
Deu 19:20 And those which remain shall hear, and fear, and shall henceforth commit no more any such evil among you.
Deu_19:21 And thine eye shall not pity, but life shall go for life, eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot.
---Trav on 4/28/15


///Leon, so as a Christian, you believe that torture is justified. What would Jesus say?---learner2 on 4/27/15///

Define torture L2. So, you're saying you don't believe what Scripture says in Romans 13:1-5? What would Jesus say about that?

I believe punishment is necessary & justifiable according to what the Bible clearly teaches. Obviously, God's ways are not your ways.
---Leon on 4/28/15


Leon, so as a Christian, you believe that torture is justified. What would Jesus say?
---learner2 on 4/27/15


///...I believe there's another way to skin this cat. For the sake of justice, Tsarnaev's punishment should be life incarceration, without possibility of parole, locked away in a supermax. Strip him of name, forbid any visitors (total isolation from human contact, verbally or otherwise) ~ no radio, no TV, no internet, NO CONTACT WITH THE OUTSIDE WORLD. Allow him to have two books, i.e., the Koran & the Bible, & video access to the Boston bombing. Give him DEATH, but not as he imagines!
---Leon on 4/11/15///

I believe this is a viable solution to the problem...
---Leon on 4/25/15
---Leon on 4/26/15


StrongAxe, I agree. And this kind of crime would come under Federal, not state. So what are our federal laws concerning terrorism, and mass murder due to terrorism? If we don't have these laws in place, we should.

Leon, yes, so you are angry about these actions, and want to inflict excruciating pain in retaliation. But are our prisons for the purpose of retaliation ? Or Justice? There is a difference! If it's retaliation, then we are no different than any other Dictator. Or should we have two different prison systems in this country?
---kathr4453 on 4/26/15


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Leon:

Tsarnaev is not like a normal serial killer who may come to repent his crimes. Rather, he sees himself as a holy warrier of Islam, a martyr, and will see his incarceration as further suffering done in the name of his faith.

Allow him to have two books, i.e., the Koran & the Bible, & video access to the Boston bombing. Give him DEATH, but not as he imagines!

He will likely read the Qur'an daily, and use the Bible as toilet paper to show his contempt - and then view the videos daily and celebrate them in joy as evidence of his faithful service to Allah. I foresee no repentance there.


kathr4453:

You are totally correct about different laws in different jurisdictions.
---StrongAxe on 4/25/15


So Leon, are you saying you disagree with your own question??? Or are you saying life without parole for crimes relating to terrorism should be more extreme in daily punishment than those , say, who murder innocent children? No videos there for them to continually watch their own actions over and over.

Your recommendation reminds me of how the prisons run by the Quakers in early America operated. Total isolation, with a Bible. The problem was, it didn't work. The inmates went crazy.
---kathr4453 on 4/26/15


///...I believe there's another way to skin this cat. For the sake of justice, Tsarnaev's punishment should be life incarceration, without possibility of parole, locked away in a supermax. Strip him of name, forbid any visitors (total isolation from human contact, verbally or otherwise) ~ no radio, no TV, no internet, NO CONTACT WITH THE OUTSIDE WORLD. Allow him to have two books, i.e., the Koran & the Bible, & video access to the Boston bombing. Give him DEATH, but not as he imagines!
---Leon on 4/11/15///

I believe this is a viable solution to the problem...
---Leon on 4/25/15


Leon, there are states with death penalties, and states without, both you say are ordained by God to rule over crimes. It appears you are questioning states without the death penalty and imposing them against the right of the state, which in fact usurps God authority in those states who do not impose the death penalty.
How then do you suggest usurping authority over such states? By disobeying Romans 13 and enforcing laws by the will of the people where no such laws are in force? So the real question is??????? What????? Or how to take away states rights without the death penalty and enforcing them??? Correct?
---kathr4453 on 4/23/15


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If so, HOW should it be carried out?
Leon, you have two entirely different questions here, rolled into one, using scripture of Romans 13?????? Has nothing to do with it.

Do you mean IF SO, as In "Death penalty" HOW then is the question?

Ans:
Hanging
Firing squad
Poison
Electric chair
Beheading
Is this what you are asking...HOW should a death penalty in the US be carried out? Well, all of the above lead to and end in death.

And some states have the death penalty for first time offenders. So isn't states rights involved here?
---kathr4453 on 4/23/15


///Have you read Romans 13:1-5? Please do! It's very straight forward & not difficult to understand at all.
---Leon on 4/14/15

Ok Leon, you keep bringing up this verse. Does this verse apply to every Christian around the world regardless of what country they live?...
---kathr4453 on 4/22/15///

Kat: Ro. 13:1-5 applies to all people (good & evil doers) EVERYWHERE (all governments around the world). Renegade governments that commit heinous crimes against humanity are dealt with, BY GOD, thru His delegated power & might being exacted by other nations, e.g., the USA. The Bible shows numerous examples of this.
---Leon on 4/22/15


Okay Kat: I should've been more specific. I'm talking solely about criminals convicted in the U.S. My focus is on people who take innocent life (intentionally murder others).

Should there be a death penalty imposed for convicted criminals in crimes involving the wrongful taking of innocent lives? If so, how should it be carried out?
---Leon on 4/22/15


Have you read Romans 13:1-5? Please do! It's very straight forward & not difficult to understand at all.
---Leon on 4/14/15

Ok Leon, you keep bringing up this verse. Does this verse apply to every Christian around the world regardless of what country they live? Not just in areas of convicted criminals taking lives, but in all areas of life. Some countries execute those who preach the Gospel. NOW under OT Law, it says an eye for an eye. Does Jesus address that Law?
---kathr4453 on 4/22/15


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micha9344:

A post that challenges the relevancy of another post is always on-topic.
---StrongAxe on 4/21/15


Neither does your post, hypocrite.
---micha9344 on 4/21/15


///I don't often agree with kathr, but...
The scapegoat and the sacrifice were both the pictures of Christ, one of Justice, one of Mercy, the two elements that make up a Holy God.
Both were without blemish.
Both were dealing with the sin of the people in different ways.
Without the shedding of blood, there is no remission of sins.
He put our sins as far as the east is from the west, never to be remembered against us.
---micha9344 on 4/20/15///

Q. What does the above have to do with this:

Should there be a death penalty imposed for convicted criminals in crimes involving the wrongful taking of innocent lives? If so, how should it be carried out?

A. Absolutely nothing!
---Leon on 4/21/15


I don't often agree with kathr, but...
The scapegoat and the sacrifice were both the pictures of Christ, one of Justice, one of Mercy, the two elements that make up a Holy God.
Both were without blemish.
Both were dealing with the sin of the people in different ways.
Without the shedding of blood, there is no remission of sins.
He put our sins as far as the east is from the west, never to be remembered against us.
---micha9344 on 4/20/15


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The kid killed in Lev 16 was not actually guilty of any sin, but he was chosen so that his cleansing (blood loss unto death) from sin would apply to the released kid.

Jesus is the "kid" that was killed for sin. His church is the "kid" that was released, forever innocent of sin.
---aservant on 4/19/15

This is total fantasy aservant. The scapegoat, the released one, does not represent the Church. All the sin of Israel was placed on the scapegoat, and released into the desert. No sin was placed on the church for one, and secondly, we are not released INTO THE DESERT, which also DIED.

Our sin was placed on Christ as well, who suffered and died OUTSIDE THE GATE...

GOOD GOLLY MISS MOLLY!
---kathr4453 on 4/19/15


The Final Judge imputed Him to be guilty of ALL SIN ever committed-aservant

Aservant
Back before Christ, when they had the animal sacrifice, was the animal guilty of sin?
No, the animals were sacrificed for the forgiveness and atonement for sin (Leviticus 4:20), a replacement, for those who were guilty.

Jesus Christ does the same for us, with this one distinction, his blood is able to take away sin.(Hebrews 10:4)
If Jesus can take away sin, something the animal sacrifice couldn't do, what does (Hebrews 10:4) mean by take away, if not forgiveness?

Many folks miss this distinction, because they believe "Take Away" means forgiveness.
---David on 4/19/15


Strong Axe thank you,it's not serious I don't think,just painful and debilitating. I'm very sorry you are back in the hospital,may God give you a supernatural outpouring of His love and healing power. I'm praying for you. God Bless
---Darlene_1 on 4/19/15


Jesus was also sentenced to death, and he was innocent.
---David
on 4/18/15

The Lord DID no sin.
1Pet 2:22 Who did no sin . . .

Yet, He was judged guilty of sin. The Final Judge imputed Him to be guilty of ALL SIN ever committed.

2Cor 5:21 For he hath made him to be sin for us . . . that we might be made the righteousness of God in him.


The kid killed in Lev 16 was not actually guilty of any sin, but he was chosen so that his cleansing (blood loss unto death) from sin would apply to the released kid.

Jesus is the "kid" that was killed for sin. His church is the "kid" that was released, forever innocent of sin.
---aservant on 4/19/15


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Jed, these are people we have visited. They are not locked into rooms with no windows and they do have a good deal of human contact, even with each other. So I don't know what you are talking about.
---learner2 on 4/17/15


I agree. You obviously don't. You've never seen what solitary confinement in a maximum security prison looks like?
---Jed on 4/17/15


Let's not forget, Our Lord Jesus was also sentenced to death, and he was innocent.

In my eyes, there is also an innocents which resides with every sinner, including the murderer, if it was not so, why would the sinner continue to receive Gods mercy?

Folks remember, we are born into sin, born as slaves unto sin. God knows this, and that is why we were given a Savior, a Savior to break this bondage, broken so that we could live our lives for God.

That man, or that woman who murders, it is the sin inside of them that causes them to do what they do. Now should they be punished? Absolutely, but a punishment of death is Gods judgment, not the judgment of sinful man.
---David on 4/18/15


Darlene_1:

You said: However it isn't a good practice to release known criminals back on the streets to commit crimes again.

It is more a matter of releasing suspects who have not been convicted of a crime beyond a reasonable doubt. Also, crimes have specific sentences, so once the sentence is fulfilled, the guilty party MUST be released. Whether he re-offends again is entirely up to him.

I'm not well right now,thank you for asking. God Bless

I'm so sorry to hear that. I am currently in the hospital myself.
---StrongAxe on 4/17/15


What rights are those, Micah?
---NurseRobert on 4/15/15


NR: I see you're still waiting for an answer while the naval gazers are yet theorizing reality & ignoring Bible truth.

IMHO the death penalty solution, for convicted murderers, is to execute them by "TOTAL ISOLATION" away from civilized society, i.e., no visitors, no TV, radio,internet or any other type of outside communication. Feed & clothe, & give them religious reading materials, i.e., Bible, Koran, etc., of their choice...isolate them for the rest of their lives.

Cons later found to be innocent should be freed & compensated for lost time, etc., & treated freely for any mental illness incurred while confinement.
---Leon on 4/17/15


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Jed, these are people we have visited. They are not locked into rooms with no windows and they do have a good deal of human contact, even with each other. So I don't know what you are talking about.
---learner2 on 4/17/15


StrongAxe You're welcome. I know that it's also true that innocent people have been unfairly imprisoned and that's so terrible and I don't approve of it. There is no justice which is equal and all wise so there are no mistakes. However it isn't a good practice to release known criminals back on the streets to commit crimes again. One big cause in crimes also are the illegal aliens who resort to stealing when there is no work for them and I'm not saying they all do but it's a big problem in some border states. I'm not smart enough to have the perfect answer and there probably isn't one anyway. I'm not well right now,thank you for asking. God Bless
---Darlene_1 on 4/17/15


Learner2, are these criminals you know friends of yours? Perhaps they only think imprisonment is better than death because they fear death. Everyone fears the unknown. There are certainly thinks that are worse than death. I would have to think 70 years in a cage with no human contact, no window, and never seeing the light of day again must be one of those things that is worse than death.
---Jed on 4/17/15


I personally know several people on death row. None would agree that life imprisonment is more cruel than execution.
---learner2 on 4/16/15


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I hear you StrongAxe, I'd rather see a guilty person given a second chance than see an innocent person rotting in prison. The problem is that society has abandoned the "innocent until proven guilty beyond all doubt" and instead we have adopted "guilty until proven innocent beyond all doubt". The attack shows on TV like Nancy Grace are largely responsible for that societal change.

With that said, I believe execution is actually more merciful and humane than life imprisonment. Life imprisonment is actually very barbaric and beneath us as a society.
---Jed on 4/16/15


Darlene_1:

You wrote: Perhaps that is whats wrong with America with so many crimes,punishment doesn't fit the crimes,and some are released who shouldn't be.

The theory is that it is better for a hundred guilty men to go free than for one innocent man to be unjustly punished. We keep hearing about many cases where somebody has rotted in prison for 20 years for a crime he didn't commit - then is freed when conflicting DNA evidence is produced (which was not available when that person was first imprisoned.

God Bless PS I hope you are doing well. Darlene 1

Thank you!
---StrongAxe on 4/15/15


What rights are those, Micah?
---NurseRobert on 4/15/15


Is it coincidence that USA is becoming less and less Christian as more and more foundational laws and rights get removed?
---micha9344 on 4/15/15


Just like in many other nations, in the world, many Americans are now & have been historically Christians in name only. What foundational laws are you talking about Micha?
---Leon on 4/15/15


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StrongAxe thanks for that information I live in a State ,I think,still has the death penalty. Perhaps that is whats wrong with America with so many crimes,punishment doesn't fit the crimes,and some are released who shouldn't be. God Bless PS I hope you are doing well. Darlene 1
---Darlene_1 on 4/15/15


Is it coincidence that USA is becoming less and less Christian as more and more foundational laws and rights get removed?
---micha9344 on 4/15/15


Darlene_1:

You said In the USA most murderers are put to death. Murder once and it becomes easier the next time.

Actually, in only 32 states is the death penalty statute on the books, while in 18 it has been repealed. In fact, look at California - a death penalty state - that still has Charles Manson behind bars for decades.
---StrongAxe on 4/14/15


Darlene my comment here was in response to one from Leon's on 4/11/15.

This particular blog, just like some others, has changed direction so I'll leave this one now.

We should really ALL adhere to the original questions and then leave them when all has been said that needed to be said.
---Rita_H on 4/14/15


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Rita: Please read the blog question. It has nothing to do with people who are caught in the act of adultery. Rather, it has everything to do with people who willfully shed innocent blood (murder other people).

Have you read Romans 13:1-5? Please do! It's very straight forward & not difficult to understand at all.
---Leon on 4/14/15


Rita H with all respect for your opinion the woman was taken in adultery,John 8:4---Master,this woman was taken in adultery. There is a huge difference between Murder of a child or anyone and adultery. Besides that we are told in the Word to obey the laws of the land. In the USA most murderers are put to death. Murder once and it becomes easier the next time. God Bless
---Darlene_1 on 4/14/15


Leon, it sounds to me as if you wish to argue with the words of Jesus Himself.

I repeat Jesus said "Let he who is without sin cast the first stone" and they all walked away. To the sinner He said "Go and sin no more".

Nowhere do I read that Jesus sent her away to be stoned (in fact he prevented those who wished to do that from doing so).
---Rita_H on 4/14/15


No, there should not be a death penalty imposed for convicted criminals in crimes involving the wrongful taking of innocent life.
---learner2 on 4/13/15


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Rita H It doesn't matter that death by injection has a more severe outcome,I wasn't comparing the easier or harder outcome,therefore there was no need for a more graphic description,because to a child a needle is a needle and they all hurt. God Bless
---Darlene_1 on 4/12/15


Hi everyone, all I know is my brother's killer should have died for deliberately sending Bryce's life. For one thing, if he had, he wouldn't have gone on to hurt an innocent child!
---Mary on 4/12/15


Yes, the Old Testament said to stone the adulterer but Jesus said "Let he who is without sin cast the first stone" and they all walked away. To the sinner He said "Go and sin no more".
---Rita_H on 4/11/15


How does that square with Romans 13:1-5 Rita? Sounds like what you believe is also stuffed with straw & standing out in a corn field some where with Cluuny. :)
---Leon on 4/11/15


\\ The sinful religious hypocrites who were trying to ensnare Jesus, \\

There's nothing in the text to assume that they were any more sinful than you or me.

You are the one playing strawman, not I.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 4/11/15


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\\Joe: It's true, only God knows our hearts. But, the Bible gives clear instruction concerning people who run afoul of the law: Romans 13: 1-5
---Leon on 4/10/15\\

And John 8 gives the qualifications for the executioners. (Remember that according to the OT, adultery was punished by stoning.)

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 4/11/15


Cluny: The sinful religious hypocrites who were trying to ensnare Jesus, in John 8, have absolutely nothing to do with God authorizing rulers (governments)the use of the executioner's "sword", to punish wrongdoers (criminals) in Romans 13:1-5. You've built an out of context straw man in that regard.
---Leon on 4/11/15


Yes, the Old Testament said to stone the adulterer but Jesus said "Let he who is without sin cast the first stone" and they all walked away. To the sinner He said "Go and sin no more".
---Rita_H on 4/11/15


\\Joe: It's true, only God knows our hearts. But, the Bible gives clear instruction concerning people who run afoul of the law: Romans 13: 1-5
---Leon on 4/10/15\\

And John 8 gives the qualifications for the executioners. (Remember that according to the OT, adultery was punished by stoning.)

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 4/11/15


...Tsarnaev...[If] given the death penalty, he could comfort himself and other mahometans with the delusion that he's a martyr...given life without parole, he just might repent so that his soul might be saved...
---Cluny on 4/8/15


Cluny: I believe there's another way to skin this cat. For the sake of justice, Tsarnaev's punishment should be life incarceration, without possibility of parole, locked away in a supermax. Strip him of name, forbid any visitors (total isolation from human contact, verbally or otherwise) ~ no radio, no TV, no internet, NO CONTACT WITH THE OUTSIDE WORLD. Allow him to have two books, i.e., the Koran & the Bible, & video access to the Boston bombing. Give him DEATH, but not as he imagines!
---Leon on 4/11/15


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David: Mat. 18:23-35 is not addressing the death penalty. The man's crime there was indebtedness--Leon

Leon
Just so you know,
The parable is about God forgiving us of sin, a debt that is too great for us to pay. (Vs. 23-27)

And since God has forgiven us of our sins against him, a much greater debt than anyone's sins could possible be against us, we should forgive those who sin against us. (Vs. 28-30)

To prove the parable is about forgiveness here is the the last verse of the parable. 35 So likewise shall My heavenly Father do also unto you, if ye from your hearts forgive not every one his brothers trespasses.
---David on 4/11/15


We are forgetting a command to all peoples that has never been annulled.
Gen 9:5-6 And surely your blood of your lives will I require, at the hand of every beast will I require it, and at the hand of man, at the hand of every man's brother will I require the life of man. Whoso sheddeth man's blood, by man shall his blood be shed: for in the image of God made he man.
This is where the death penalty was instituted by God to man for him and his generations.
---micha9344 on 4/10/15


Good word Micha. Also we need to understand the responsibilities of God's delegated authorities in meting out justice to criminals. See Romans 13: 1-5
---Leon on 4/10/15


We are forgetting a command to all peoples that has never been annulled.
Gen 9:5-6 And surely your blood of your lives will I require, at the hand of every beast will I require it, and at the hand of man, at the hand of every man's brother will I require the life of man. Whoso sheddeth man's blood, by man shall his blood be shed: for in the image of God made he man.
This is where the death penalty was instituted by God to man for him and his generations.
---micha9344 on 4/10/15


The death penalty is not a form of forgiveness, and those who seek this method of vengeance, may discover when they read (Matthew 18:23-35), they are condemning themselves.
---David on 4/10/15


David: Mat. 18:23-35 is not addressing the death penalty. The man's crime there was indebtedness, not murder or adultery (as it was in antiquity a capital offense under Jewish law: See Jn. 8).

Please read Ro. 13:1-5 for a precise understanding on God-given authorities (rulers) to carry out capital punishment. The death penalty should never be for vengeance. It is to exact justice under the law & be an example of hopeful deterrence to all who would practice such lawlessness against society.
---Leon on 4/10/15


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Joe: It's true, only God knows our hearts. But, the Bible gives clear instruction concerning people who run afoul of the law: Romans 13: 1-5
---Leon on 4/10/15


Leon, no man gives life, no man has a right to take life. Murderers will be sentenced to the lake of fire, which is the second death, by the only righteous Judge of man. The only one that truly knows the heart of man.
---joseph on 4/10/15


Should there be a death penalty imposed for convicted criminals in crimes involving the wrongful taking of innocent lives?
---Leon on 4/8/15

Are we discussing the current wave of police shootings?

Are there not laws already in place? What additionally needs to be done?

Are you really wanting an eye for an eye? Or for vengeance or repayment?

Wrongful death is already punishable under the law.

Do you want people to be executed if they kill someone in a automobile wreck that was their fault?
---Mark_Eaton on 4/10/15


The death penalty is not a form of forgiveness, and those who seek this method of vengeance, may discover when they read (Matthew 18:23-35), they are condemning themselves.
---David on 4/10/15


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I think that many (probably most) people will have the ability to describe death by lethal injection in a more graphic form that likening it to pre-school vaccinations.

We have had far too many innocent people being given life sentences (and many years later freed) in U.K. All those innocent people would have been hung if we had not abolished the death penalty more than 50 years ago. I hope it is never reinstated here.
---Rita_H on 4/9/15


There is an old adage"you made your bed you have to lay in it" and that is what a person who kills an innocent person, or murders anyone,should have to do. Sometimes I wonder if the old fashioned hangings would help lower crime. How can a child be warned if they are bad like that man you'll get a needle put in you and that deter them from crime,when they have needles stuck in them all the time before they can go to school. Too many guilty people are being put in prison for short terms and released to do the same crimes they have always done. God Bless
---Darlene_1 on 4/9/15


[I'm]...against the death penalty...
1. ...people wrongfully executed.
2. Jesus gave the qualifications for the executioners in John 8. Does anyone [here] meet that standard?
[Regarding]...Tsarnaev...[my] third reason. [If] given the death penalty, he could comfort himself [ & ] other mahometans with the delusion that he's a martyr. OTOH...given life without parole, he [may] repent...his soul might be saved.---Cluny on 4/8/15


Obviously you mean the situation with the adulterous woman, in Jn. 8, who the pharisees wanted to stone (execute). Certainly, no one but Jesus, then or now, is without sin. But, remember what Ro. 13:1-5 says before you try binding God authorized government & stay the executioner's hand Cluny.
---Leon on 4/8/15


That, Leon, is something that now is an issue > how trustworthy are this world's people, for doing a reliable investigation? "'One witness shall not rise against a man concerning any iniquity or any sin that he commits, by the mouth of two or three witnesses the matter shall be established.'" (Deuteronomy 19:15)
---Bill on 4/9/15


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\\Leon, Isn't it strange that they execute criminals by lethal injection with "sterile" needles ??\\

Not really, Health care workers get needlesticks all the time.

Sterile needles are not so much for the condemned person as for the executioners.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 4/9/15


Cliff: It's only the civilized thing to do. Nothing strange about that. What if scenerio Cliff, i.e., Convict is strapped down on the gurney. The IV needle is in his/her arm & they're awaiting the execution order. Suddenly, a last minute stay has been granted. But now, because a dirty needle has been used, the con has been infected with HIV or Hep C. How complicated would that make matters, especially if the con was subsequently exhonorated from his/her crime?
---Leon on 4/8/15


Leon, Isn't it strange that they execute criminals by lethal injection with "sterile" needles ??
---1stcliff on 4/8/15


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