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Is Time Real

I just heard someone ask a question: IS TIME REAL? Well, is it?

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\\That's funny. The "c" in E=mc^2 was the constant of the speed of light.
How is it the speed of light is a constant (distance/time) when its denominator is fluid?\\

Actually, the speed of light is variable.

It travels more slowly through a medium such as water, a jewel, or a prism, but then will pick up speed once it exits the medium.

It has greater celerity (pun intended) in a vacuum.

Glory to Jesus Christ.
---Cluny on 9/25/15


"IS TIME REAL?" Of course it is. God made time! Everything God makes is "real".

This question falls in the same category as the one that asks, "If a tree falls in the woods & there's no one there to hear it, will it make a sound?" This question is a bonafide sucker (knock out) punch to the jaw of all over thinkers who take logic to illogical extremes.
---Leon on 9/24/15


/Don't forget that Einstein's theory of general relativity shows that time is fluid and not absolute.\-Cluny on 9/23/15
That's funny. The "c" in E=mc^2 was the constant of the speed of light.
How is it the speed of light is a constant (distance/time) when its denominator is fluid?
/the GPS satellites would not have to be reset several times daily to correspond with surface time on Terra.\
This is a misleading statement at best. I think the best term would be "synchronized", rather than "reset", and most all clocks need synchronized, not matter where on or near Earth they are.
---michaa9344 on 9/23/15


Don't forget that Einstein's theory of general relativity shows that time is fluid and not absolute.

Otherwise, the GPS satellites would not have to be reset several times daily to correspond with surface time on Terra.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 9/23/15


///Leon, it does not say that time began with day one of creation. It says that creation began with day one of creation. And even so, the earth was already in existence when day one began.
---learner2 on 5/16/15///

Anybody: What are the elements of time? What does it take to make time exist?
---Leon on 6/20/15




God is eternal: 1Timothy 1:17, Revelations 1:8, 21:6.
God is not subject to time: Psalm 90:4, 2Peter 3:8-9.
There is an appointed time: Ecclesiastes 3:1-8, John 7:30, Hebrews 10:37, Revelations 10:6-7.
We have limited knowledge of time: Matthew 25:1-13, Acts 1:7, 1Thessalonians 5:1-2.
Time is short: Romans 13:11-12, 1Corinthians 7:29, James 5:8.
We are not to waste time: Psalm 90:12, Ephesians 5:15-16, Colossians 4:5.
---Glenn on 6/12/15


Time is simply the system that mankind uses to MEASURE EXISTENCE.

Read PHANTOM TIME at Wikipedia. It exposes Pope Gregory's Calendar as being faulty and misleading to historical events (then search at youtube for more explanation).

FOMENKO (a mathematician will easily see the discrepancies of B.C. and A.D. years) has done research and forms his own CHRONOLOGY of "TIME" (he is an INTELLECTUAL and can't think straight about SPIRITUALITY but knows something about HISTORY).

ROHL is a historian that has his theories about FAR EASTERN (ancient) Hebrews and such.

The GLASGOW chronology was a convention of historians (look up everything at Wiki and youtube).
---faithforfaith on 6/10/15


Leon, it does not say that time began with day one of creation. It says that creation began with day one of creation. And even so, the earth was already in existence when day one began.
---learner2 on 5/16/15


L2: You can choose not to ignore the facts & not know. That's your prerogative, but in Genesis the Bible shows there was no time before God created it,i.e., days, nights, evenings, mornings, seasons, years...
---Leon on 5/16/15


Leon, I am not smart enough to understand all that stuff. I cannot conceive of there not being time, having never experienced such a thing.
---learner2 on 5/15/15




Learner2: God gave us all a measure of common sense so we could mentally connect the dots in Scripture without having to have everything spelled out for us. Before He created "time" God was. Since the creation of time, God has been in & outside of time in eternity. Common sense L2.
---Leon on 5/15/15


I'm still not convinced.
---learner2 on 5/15/15


///Does the bible say God lives outside of time? I can't find any scripture about that.
---learner2 on 5/4/15///

The Bible says God, outside of time, created time (evening, mornings, days, nights, years, seasons...). The Bible says God inhabited/dwelt in time, e.g., in the wilderness as a pillar of cloud & fire, & in the New Testament in the person of His Son, the God man, Jesus Christ. The Bible says to God 1,000 years is like a day. God made/created time to regulate man. God uses time as He sees fit, but is never bound by it. He is God in time & outside of/apart from time. At the end of time, God will still be timelessly timely (on time)GOD.
---Leon on 5/9/15


I'm not convinced.
---learner2 on 5/6/15


Genesis 1:1,5 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth. And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.
-So, God was there before day one, hence outside of time.
-Things don't need to be written in absolutes to have Truth inferred and deduced.
John 1:2 The same was in the beginning with God.
-The Word of God was there as well, timeless, infinite, eternal.
Pro 8:22 The LORD possessed me in the beginning of his way, before his works of old.
-His Wisdom as well.
2Pe 3:8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day [is] with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.
-Not bound by time.
---micha9344 on 5/5/15


Does the bible say God lives outside of time? I can't find any scripture about that.
---learner2 on 5/4/15


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Time, as we know it, is real to us. God, living outside of time, in eternity, sees the whole of history, present, and future as NOW.

This would be confusing to us, so by His mercy, He allows us to experience the present one moment at a time. The past we cannot change, the future is unknown, so all we can do is live one moment at a time, loving Jesus all the way.

Richa,
The Born Again Buddhist,
Saved by the grace of God,
and totally in love with Jesus!
---richa8957 on 5/4/15


\\Scriptures witnessing scriptures testify "all" truth. GOD's testimony.\\

You testify to NONE of it.
---Cluny on 4/30/15

Aye, right you are for once boyo! I don't.
Scripture does as posted...to your gnashing gratitude.
Posting for brothers and sisters, who seek as per Isa_51:1-2 Hearken to me, ye that follow after righteousness, ye that seek the LORD: look unto ...
Joh_11:52 And not for that nation only, but that also he should gather together in one the children of God that were scattered abroad.
Joe_3:2... for my people and for my heritage Israel, whom they have scattered among the nations...
Eze 36:19 I scattered them among the heathen, they were dispersed through the countries: ...
---Trav on 5/1/15


Widows may be males in today's society...

Biblically, orphans are fatherless children.
That is why widows and orphans are together in many passages.
Both have lost the male influence in their lives.
It is allegorical to God's family and His adoption of us as fatherless.
---micha9344 on 4/30/15

The mind reels that a confused professing Christian tried to excuse current aberrations, posting a "male" could be a widow.
Wow, wow, wow.

We're approaching a time I hoped I'd never see. May our saviour give us strength.
Liked your post on Widows and Orphans. Good post.
Lam_5:3 We are orphans and fatherless, our mothers are as widows.
---Trav on 5/1/15


\\Scriptures witnessing scriptures testify "all" truth. GOD's testimony.\\

You testify to NONE of it.

Christ is risen!
---Cluny on 4/30/15


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Widows may be males in today's society and culture, but in biblical times they were the female.
It is the same with orphans.
Orphans today are considered children who have lost both parents.
Biblically, orphans are fatherless children.
That is why widows and orphans are together in many passages. Both have lost the male influence in their lives.
It is allegorical to God's family and His adoption of us as fatherless.
---micha9344 on 4/30/15


Time out guys! Does anyone here really have the

TIME

to argue senselessly about such trivial drivel? Incredible nonsense guys!!! smh
---Leon on 4/29/15


Trav:

You said: you "One Global Community" universal church types.

Who is "you"? Why do you assume I believe in that, as I have never said so, nor UN nor 7 hills queen. "Do not bear false witness".

You said in the Facebook blog: You are a male who claimed widowhood equally for males. ...

1) Men can be widowers
2) I was stating unbiased facts, not biased opinions
3) I frequently make logical statements like "Accepting X while rejecting Y is inconsistent". People often erroneously conclude my personal opinions about X or Y from this. My own subjective opinions, and yours, are irrelevant to the legitimacy of any issue. This is why I tend to avoid stating them.
---StrongAxe on 4/27/15


That's what Monk Brendan and I have been doing, but you won't receive sound doctrine.
---Cluny on 4/27/15

Scriptures witnessing scriptures testify "all" truth. GOD's testimony.
You two lurk in shadows of un-found and un-sound opinion. Doctrines of opinion is your testimony.
Here's a match for your dead candle.
Mar_7:7 Howbeit in vain do they worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.
Mar_12:38 he said unto them in his doctrine, Beware of the scribes, which love to go in long clothing, and love salutations in the marketplaces,

Even the American Indians called you guys "black robes" knowing you only fooled yourselves by your doctrines.
---Trav on 4/28/15


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\\Truth rolls off you like water off a Ducks back. \\

And where did you get the notion you had said anything that is the truth?

\\Eph_5:11 And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them. \\

That's what Monk Brendan and I have been doing, but you won't receive sound doctrine.

Christ is risen!
---Cluny on 4/27/15


\\Just pointing out you'd save yourself further embarrassment.\\

If you're trying to insult me, ...
---Cluny on 4/27/15

You are hardened its true.
Truth rolls off you like water off a Ducks back.
You'll have enough to paddle in one of these days.
Eph_5:11 And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them.
2Ti_4:2 Preach the word, be instant in season, out of season, reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine.
---Trav on 4/27/15


\\Just pointing out you'd save yourself further embarrassment.\\

If you're trying to insult me, I've already been insulted by experts. This didn't even come close.

Christ is risen!
---Cluny on 4/27/15


\Do your own work Cluny. \\
You made the statement. YOU must be able and willing to support it, not I.
---Cluny on 4/25/15

Just pointing out you'd save yourself further embarrassment. But, you strangely crave it. Quite certain it is your way of learning and so it's my blessing and yours to bring witnesses. Noticing that when you do research you can never reply. (Its ok, me and you know:) You make scripture live sometimes.
Pro_1:22 How long, ye simple ones, will ye love simplicity? the scorners delight in their scorning, and fools hate knowledge?
Pro_19:25 Smite a scorner, the simple will beware: reprove one that hath understanding, he will understand knowledge.
---Trav on 4/27/15


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RFID is used to identify objects (such as expensive projects being purchased) ... What is wrong with that?
---StrongAxe on 4/25/15

Nothing will be wrong with implanting the RFID in your head or hand.
You are behind. People are having RFID's implanted voluntarily. They will make sense in many ways. Credit card, bank checks eliminated. Medical records, GPS positioning will soon be benefits. Cashless society.
Perfect for you "One Global Community" universal church types. Your payments to the United Nations and queen residing on the Seven Hills will be efficient, saving money and manpower. It will only disservice us who don't kneel.
Hmmmm. Cattle, Dogs, are beasts. Guess I am a beast watcher.
---Trav on 4/27/15


Trav:


You said: I said 1/2 of the things

And I wasn't disagreeing with you. Just being equally qualifying.

RFID is used to identify objects (such as expensive projects being purchased) from a close distance (such as a cash register, or a shoplift-detecting arch). What is wrong with that?

So it's used to identify animals. So what? Cattle used to be identified by pressing red-hot iron to their flesh. This is clearly much more humane.

Dogs have no hands, but they DO have wrists and foreheads, which might be a red flag for beast-watchers if they put them there. But they don't.

Isa_45:9 I wasn't made by the inventor of RFID, so have no quarrel with him.
---StrongAxe on 4/25/15


\\Do your own work Cluny. \\

You made the statement. YOU must be able and willing to support it, not I.

Christ is risen!
---Cluny on 4/25/15


In Ephesians 1 of the RSV, it says that Jesus came to earth in the "fulness of time" (the completion?end of the age of "TIME"). God caused EXISTENCE. Man's way of measuring existence is in periods of TIME.

In the desrt, Jesus was to be TEMPTED (as man is tempted), so satan showed the kingdoms according to man's inventions/devices.

Luke 4:5 "in a matter of TIME".

Jesus ended the age of time ("He came at the end of the age to put away sin").
---faithforfaith on 4/25/15


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\ It already is required in animals in a lot of places.\\
Can you name one such place, Trav?
---Cluny on 4/24/15

Britain, dogs. Michigan, Texas, cattle, exotics. People are already having implants. Search "RFID toys or anything RFID.

Do your own work Cluny.
It's the fact that you don't is why you are in the scriptural ditch you are in.

Job_36:3 I will fetch my knowledge from afar, and will ascribe righteousness to my Maker.
Psa_119:104 Through thy precepts I get understanding: therefore I hate every false way.
Psa_119:110 The wicked have laid a snare for me: yet I erred not from thy precepts
---Trav on 4/25/15


\\ It already is required in animals in a lot of places.\\

Can you name one such place, Trav?

Christ is risen!
---Cluny on 4/24/15


///Leon, One thing I discovered on these blogs is =
Some days you're the pigeon,
and some days you're the statue! huh?
---1st_cliff on 4/24/15///

Is that your experience Cliff, eh? Then, "Do to others what you would have them do to you...". (Matt. 7:12, NLT) Therein lies a "timely" solution to your problem. :)
---Leon on 4/24/15


"IS TIME REAL?" As real as daylight and darkness, spring and fall, sunrise and sunset, all aspects representing the passing of time. In Ex 18:22 the word "eth" translated seasons is defined by the strong's concordance as "time". In the NT Mat 21:41 & Acts 20:18 etc the word "kairos", translated seasons is defined "a measure of time". The word "yown", translated time is used on numerous occasions throughout the OT representing a "division of time. So yes, time is real.
---josef on 4/24/15


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Trav:
RFID only provides a passive store of information.
These are inserted in the middle of the back, not hand or forehead.
---StrongAxe on 4/24/15

I said 1/2 of the things. They can open doors, carry your Identification, Global position you within feet, carry records medical or otherwise... from what I've heard. I'm no expert on this but, then neither are you. Dogs don't have hands.
The scientist that initially helped invent the RFID is the one that said their studies showed then that it worked best there. Argue with this creator. As you seem prone to do.
Isa_45:9 Woe unto him that striveth with his Maker! Let the potsherd strive with the potsherds of the earth. Shall the clay say to him that fashioneth it, ...
---Trav on 4/25/15


Trav:

RFID only provides a passive store of information. It doesn't actually provide active computational capacity, like phones, tablets, etc. do.

I recently had my two dogs implanted with RFID chips so they can be identified if lost. These are inserted in the middle of the back, not hand or forehead.

Just the other day I read an article about replacing biometric identification (e.g. fingerprints, eyescans) with ingestible electronics that could be powered by things like stomach acids.
---StrongAxe on 4/24/15


Leon, One thing I discovered on these blogs is =
Some days you're the pigeon,
and some days you're the statue ! huh?
---1st_cliff on 4/24/15


I predict that within 15 years we will own one mobile device that will do it all but it will not be on your wrist. It will replace your wallet, credit cards,...you will be able to control everything with it including your home HVAC, appliances, door locks, automobile, work, school, and health care.
---Mark_Eaton on 4/23/15

There is a device that can do over 1/2 of the things you mentioned already. The RFID implanted. Strangely enough...I'm told the lithium battery worked best in the wrist/hand or forehead because of heat transfer.
It will be required to have this implanted someday most likely. It already is required in animals in a lot of places.
The "mark"? Sure seems likely.
---Trav on 4/24/15


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///...I predict...within 15 years [we'll] own one mobile device [that'll] do it all but...[won't] be on your wrist. [It'll] replace wallet[s], credit cards, watch[es], home computer, laptop, tablet, TV, [ & ] phone. [It'll]...connect with other devices...such as keyboards, large screens, game consoles...[you'll] be able to control everything [?] with it including your home HVAC, appliances, door locks, automobile, work, school, [ & ] health care. [It'll] feature a taser for personal security [ & ] [it'll] be controlled by voice recognition [ & ] palm print.
---Mark_Eaton on 4/23/15///

That calculation sounds familiar Mark_E. (Rev. 13:16-18, NKJV) "Time" will tell!!!
---Leon on 4/23/15


We will see whether or not the market accepts this model or not.
---StrongAxe on 4/22/15

Granted.

You mentioned blurring the line....

I predict that within 15 years we will own one mobile device that will do it all but it will not be on your wrist. It will replace your wallet, credit cards, watch, home computer, laptop, tablet, TV, and phone. It will be able to connect with other devices for additional features (such as keyboards, large screens, game consoles) and you will be able to control everything with it including your home HVAC, appliances, door locks, automobile, work, school, and health care. It will feature a taser for personal security and it will be controlled by voice recognition and palm print.
---Mark_Eaton on 4/23/15


yes time isreal itwas created by GOD read the first chapter
---greglitfin on 4/23/15


Of course time is real. God invented it. He gave us the earth's rotation to define days, the week of six work days and the Sabbath of rest, and

Psa 104:19 He appointed the moon for seasons: the sun knoweth his going down.



---jerry6593 on 4/23/15


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Mark_Eaton:

The idea is that the Apple watch blurs the line between watch, phone, tablet, etc. The modern cell phone already blurs the line between pocket-watch (popular a century ago), phone, and computer. Dick Tracy had wrist-watch phones half a century ago in fiction, and now we actually have them in real life. We will see whether or not the market accepts this model or not.
---StrongAxe on 4/22/15


///The one thing I always found ironic was the big "retirement" party where the person receives the "gold watch" (and priceless handshake)...The last thing you need when you retire is a watch!---1st_cliff on 4/22/15///

Cliff: A watch is probably a very useful item for as long as you're still living in time. But, after you're time has run out, well!
---Leon on 4/22/15


The one thing I always found ironic was the big "retirement" party where the person receives the "gold watch" (and priceless handshake)...
The last thing you need when you retire is a watch !
---1st_cliff on 4/22/15


I agree with Cluny and Cliff.
Time was created by God and He gave us ways to measure it. He also gave us how to measure it.
-1 day (daylight period), 1 night (darkness period), an evening, a morning, one day (24hr period).
It started on day one. God set the standard and gave us the tools and the definitions.
We live by the same standard today as far as the day goes.
Months, however, have switched to agree more with a solar calendar than a lunar one.
Years are still years with their seasons.
Since God created time, He can also manipulate it.
None-the-less, Since God created it why wouldn't it be real?
---micha9344 on 4/22/15


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///...recent generations [don't] wear watches but check...time using their cell phones.

I stopped wearing a watch...for the same reason....---Mark_Eaton on 4/22/15///

Mark_E: I'm definitely old school all the way! I have a couple expensive watches that I wear on occasion solely as an ornamental enhancement to whatever I'm wearing. Stop wearing wrist watches? Not going to happen in my lifeTIME! :) Yes, I have a droid & own a desktop computer.

I've noticed, in recent years, modern folk are trying to get away from old technology & ways, e.g., Morse code, typewriters, cursive writing & now wrist watches. So, what happens when modern technology fails? Isn't it wise to always have a backup plan? ijs
---Leon on 4/22/15


and the last time I checked my watch...
---1st_cliff on 4/21/15

Shows how old-school we are!

I recently read an article that predicted the new Apple Watch would be a failure. The article said that recent generations do not wear watches but check the time using their cell phones.

I stopped wearing a watch myself for the same reason in 2005.
---Mark_Eaton on 4/22/15


All good responses, so far. Hey Cliff: Yeah Mickey! :)

Without a Sun would we be able to comprehend & measure time?
---Leon on 4/22/15


Well, God gave us the sun and people invented sun dials to help us keep track of time and, from those, we now have clocks and watches so, in my mind, time is real because our days are governed by it.

The bible talks about a place being a certain number of days journey away etc. so I guess that makes time important also.
---Rita_H on 4/22/15


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I've been around a long time,and the last time I checked my watch, Micky Mouse's hands were still waving !
---1st_cliff on 4/21/15


Well, it's real for us, I guess.

But it's not the whole story.

It's real in that God created it.

Christ is risen!
---Cluny on 4/21/15


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