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Explain Isaiah 43:11

Jesus is our Saviour and Redeemer. I, even I am the LORD (Jehovah, or Yahweh) and besides Me there is no Saviour. Isaiah 43:11 Thus says the LORD (Jehovah or Yahweh) your Redeemer . Isaiah 43:14. Is this Jesus or the Father speaking to Isaiah?

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---Steveng on 4/27/15

Jesus is God - "Fathered" by the Holy Spirit - Lk 1:35

vantriliquist - Father was speaking - Mt 3:17

"Father, why have you forsaken me?" Jesus does not lie. He was talking to the Father.

How could Jesus do all those miracles without God? He can't. He was authorized - Mt 28:18, and infused with power - Jn 5:26, Col 1:19, 2:9, Jn 3:34-35

How is it that God knows the end, but not Jesus? He can only speak what He has been taught. The Father had not taught Him everything while he was still here on earth. Jn 8:28, 12:49-50
---aservant on 10/24/16


For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one - in spirit.

There are thousands that bear record of heaven, all the true christians - in spirit.

Goadhead? Trinity? Hogwash. No such thing. There is only one God, the Father. Jesus never claimed to be God. He said to worship God, the Father, only.

Jesus said that he could do nothing without the Father working through him.

Jesus said to Mary Magdalene, "I am ascending to my Father and your Father, my God and your God.
---Steveng on 10/23/16


IMO it is the Word (Jesus) for this is the Same Person that speaks these words considering the Godhead/Trinity.

16) Come ye near unto Me, hear ye this, I have not spoken in secret from the beginning, from the time that it was, there Am I: and now the Lord GOD, and His Spirit, hath sent Me.
17) Thus saith the LORD, thy Redeemer, the Holy One of Isreal, I Am the LORD thy God which teacheth thee to profit, which leadeth thee by the way that thou shouldest go.
Isaiah 48:16-17

---Jamea7799 on 10/22/16


Isa 6:9 tells us that unto us a son is given. ...
---trey on 11/17/15

"Us" is a contextual mark specifically addressed repeatedly. In fearful avoidance, "Truth" becomes the more apparent.

Mat_10:6 But go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.
Mat_15:24 But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel.

Zec_10:8 I will hiss for them, and gather them, for I have redeemed them: ...
Luk_1:68 Blessed be the Lord God of Israel, for he hath visited and redeemed his people,
Amo_9:9 For, lo, I will command, and I will sift the house of Israel among all nations, like as corn is sifted in a sieve, yet shall not the least grain fall upon the earth.
---Trav on 11/18/15


Trav said, "Christ was a man, conceived of GOD, born of a woman. The Promised, scripture fulfilling Messiah shows Israel and Judah and others what is possible through faith in GOD united with the spirit of GOD."

Christ is the eternal Son of God. He is God. He is equal with God.

1John 5:7 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.

Note His eternal existence:
John 17:5 And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was.

Isaiah 6:9 tells us that unto us a son is given. For God to give us his Son, He had to have a Son. See also John 3:16.
---trey on 11/17/15




Yes, Jesus is our Savior and Redeemer. I consider that whenever Jesus appeared and spoke, in early scripture, He and the Father spoke as one. He says, "the Father who dwells in me does the works," in John 4:10. And "'I and My Father are one.'" (John 10:30)

So, it was not Jesus "or" the Father, but both in oneness with each other (c:

Jesus existed before the created world > "'And now, O Father, glorify Me together with Yourself, with the glory which I had with You before the world was.'" (John 17:5)

Jesus is "the image of God" (2 Corinthians 4:4). Gold can be an image, and can flow to make new forms. God can flow through us and form into Jesus in us (Galatians 4:19) (c:
---Bill on 5/13/15


Cluny 4/27/15 Jesus said, "You have not heard My Father's voice at any time."
Probably not a good text to prove Isaiah 40:3 was the Son. I believe it was the Son. This verse (John 5:37) needs to be looked at in context. To whom was Jesus saying this? To some of the Jews who did not believe in Him. They had not heard His Fathers voice because they were not following Gods ways. Some others may have heard the Fathers voice at Jesus baptism. (Matthew 3:17)
God bless.
---therese on 4/28/15


---Steveng on 4/27/15
Was Jesus a vantriliquist the time he was baptised and a voice came from heaven? No of course not. The nature of the Godhead is very different to the nature of humans. The bible indicates that Gods nature is composed of 3 entities, The Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. These all have the same attributes, but can act independently. They are all equally God, always have been, always will be.
---therese on 4/28/15


Why, Richard C, why are you dwelling on blood and gore when talking about Jesus?

He Himself never did anything like that.

If you don't believe me, just ask 1stCliff, and he will TELL you so!

Just kidding.

Christ is risen!
---Cluny on 4/28/15


Philippians 2:7 - ...made in likeness of men,
Philippians 2:8 - And being found in the fashion as a man,...Hebrews2:9 - But we see Jesus who was made little lower than the angels ...Matthew 28:18 - And Jesus came and spake unto them saying, All power is given to me in heaven and earth,
---RichardC on 4/28/15

Good post RichardC. Precept upon precept.
Isa_28:10 For precept must be upon precept, precept upon precept, line upon line, line upon line, here a little, and there a little:
Isa_28:13 But the word of the LORD was unto them precept upon precept, precept upon precept, line upon line, line upon line, here a little, and there a little, that they might go, and fall backward, and be broken, and snared, and taken.
---Trav on 4/28/15




Philippians 2:7 - But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in likeness of men,
Philippians 2:8 - And being found in the fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross.


Hebrews2:9 - But we see Jesus who was made little lower than the angels for the suffering of death, crowned with glory and honor, that he by the grace of God should taste death for every man,

Matthew 28:18 - And Jesus came and spake unto them saying, All power is given to me in heaven and earth,
---RichardC on 4/28/15


realize many christians believe that Jesus is God, but how do you explain these:...
---Steveng on 4/27/15

Steveng, that was a good post. It is simple...but, the denoms complicate it with their confused doctrines of men. You know this and it shows in your scripture witness and separation from the confusion.
Christ was a man, conceived of GOD, born of a woman. The Promised, scripture fulfilling Messiah shows Israel and Judah and others what is possible through faith in GOD united with the spirit of GOD.

Zec_10:8 I will hiss for them, and gather them, for I have redeemed them: and they shall increase as they have increased.
Luk_1:68 Blessed be the Lord God of Israel, for he hath visited and redeemed his people,
---Trav on 4/28/15


Matt19:17 Jesus is asking a question to get the man to recognize who Jesus is. That Jesus is GOD in flesh.

John 14:28 Because Jesus left heaven and became a man. He assumed a lessor position out of love for us.

John 20:17 The Father is our GOD and so is Jesus. It it called the Trinity. One God three persons.

1cor. 11:3 God became a man.
15:28 Jesus submits himself so what. He reduced himself to live as a human being.

Colossians 3:1 TRINITY.

1Tim3:5 Incarnation. Yes.

1Peter 3:21,22 Trinity.

Now how will you answer John 1.
---Samuelbb7 on 4/28/15


This is a big debate without the knowledge of the Holy Spirit. I realize that many christians believe that Jesus is God, but how do you explain these:

Was Jesus a vantriliquist the time he was baptised and a voice came from heaven?

Was Jesus talking to himself when he said "Father, why have you forsaken me?"

How could Jesus do all those miracles without God?

And others:
Matthew 19:17
John 14:28
John 20:17
1 Corinthians 11:3
1 Corinthians 15:28
Colossians 3:1
1 Timothy 2:5
1 Peter 3:21-22

How is it that God knows the end, but not Jesus?
---Steveng on 4/27/15


John 8:58 - Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily , I say unto you , before Abraham was, I am,

John 14:7 - If ye had Known me ye should have know my Father also: and from henceforth ye know him, and have seen him,

John 17:5 - And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was,

John 20:28 - And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God,
---RichardC on 4/27/15


Isaiah 43:11 - I even I,am the Lord: and beside me there no Saviour

Titus 1:4 - To Titus mine own son after the common faith: Grace mercy and peace, from God the Father and the Lord Jesus Christ our Saviour

Ephesians 4:5 - One Lord , One faith, One Baptism,

Deuteronomy 6:4 - Hear O Israel: The Lord our God is One Lord,

Psalm 144:15 - Happy is that people, that is in such a case : yea, happy is the people whose God is the Lord,

John 10:30 - I and my Father are One,
---RichardC on 4/27/15


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therese, the Logos/Son was not known as Jesus until He was incarnate in the womb of the Virgin.

This is the SON speaking through Isaiah. Don't forget that during His earthly sojourn, Jesus said, "You have not heard My Father's voice at any time."

Christ is risen!
---Cluny on 4/27/15


...the Divine Son became as a Man, obeyed His Father in all things (HEB 5:8,
---Gordon on 4/27/15

Scriptures agree with Gordon. GOD created his Son the Christ.
GOD explains why and to who in Isaiah and every prophet, Christ and the Apostles.
Isa 43:1 But now thus saith the LORD that created thee, O Jacob, he that formed thee, O Israel, Fear not: for I have redeemed thee, I have called thee by thy name, thou art mine.

The blind error adopted taught in blindness today by almost all denom's is that Judah equals all 14 of Jacob/Israels son's. This darkness error has not one scriptural witness for light but, is preferred for doctrinal reasons.
1Pe_2:9 ... called you out of darkness into his marvellous light:
---Trav on 4/27/15


The Father YAHUVEH is speaking to Isaiah.

The Father YAHUVEH saves people through His Son YAHUSHUA.

In fact, the very Name "YAHUSHUA" means "YAHUVEH saves" or "YAHUVEH brings Salvation".

The Father and Son, with the Holy Spirit, are all in agreement to this Plan of Salvation.

That's how, when the Divine Son became as a Man, obeyed His Father in all things (HEBREWS 5:8, et al.)
---Gordon on 4/27/15


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