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Challenge A Pastor

Have you ever felt that you wanted to challenge a pastor regarding something he said in a sermon? If you ever have done that what reaction did you get - helpful or defensive?

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But I did get one Pastor fired because ... teaching was false. ...
---Samuelbb7 on 5/13/15

...proud is not the correct word.
The false teachings were more than one thing.
---Samuelbb7 on 5/15/15

Proud, seemed your personal boast of it.
Humbly in truth, its a group now.
Your post said "I"...did get one fired.
More than one false teaching but, you list just one.
Don't care personally. Your Church doctrine you exhibit so far hasn't utilized all precepts in scripture. It can't.
Am sure the preacher is better off being out of your Church. We all are.
Joh 9:39 Jesus said, For judgment I am come into this world, that they which see not might see, that they which see might be made blind.
---Trav on 5/15/15


Trav, we don't need to know the false teaching.
I hate to hear the Bible distored.
---Nicole_Lacey on 5/14/15

Yes we need to hear. For his credibility.
He first said "I" got him fired.
Now he shares the load amongst his brothers.
He just listed one reason, maybe he is not "proud" of the other many reasons.

You hate to hear the Bible distorted.
As your posting's give us the witness of.

---Trav on 5/15/15


// It is amazing what one can learn from one's pupils also.//

You are correct about teachers who are not pastors. Unfortunately, many/most pastors can not or will not admit or acknowledge learning from a person attending "their" church. Many people expect the "pastor" to be an intermediary between them and God, so they act like one.
The Pastorate is like a magnet drawing narcissistic type people. They love being in that position.
---Rod4Him on 5/15/15


Rod I have been a teacher (many years ago). It is amazing what one can learn from one's pupils also.
---Rita_H on 5/15/15


Trav proud is not the correct word. It was my duty to my church and my GOD. I was much happier about the other Pastors who listened and we worked things out.

The false teachings were more than one thing. The main was that the Holy Spirit does not dwell in humans but we are helped by angels instead.

In the Seventh day Adventist church all our churches are under authority to Church leaders. They fulfill the role of Bishops. I reported him to them. This was after much discussion. Nor was I alone reporting him. After they investigated they fired him.

On Christ the solid rock I stand.
---Samuelbb7 on 5/15/15




//It IS possible for a pastor to learn from the members.//

And it is possible for a camel to go through an eye of a needle.
---Rod4Him on 5/14/15


Samuel I understand you getting the Pastor fired for false teaching. It is hard.

Trav, we don't need to know the false teaching. I hate to hear the Bible distored.

But I am curious if it took a council or a few men.

GOOD FOR YOU. MEN of yesterday are fading away
---Nicole_Lacey on 5/14/15


But I did get one Pastor fired because what he started teaching was false. ...
---Samuelbb7 on 5/13/15

What was he teaching that was false?
You were proud enough to brag about it. Be proud enough to tell what it was.
---Trav on 5/14/15


//Faith doesn't change just because someone is born to tell everyone else what the Bible 'truly' means.//

:-) now that's something to think about.
---Rod4Him on 5/14/15


Faith doesn't change just because someone is born to tell everyone else what the Bible 'truly' means.
---Nicole_Lacey on 5/9/15

Agree, as in men in general and at the same time note the scriptural Prophets, Christ, Apostles were born to "tell" Israel.
There would be no scripture without the Prophets GOD spoke through. Prophets of GOD, writing that which Christ and his Apostles fulfill.
Gen_25:23...Two nations are in thy womb, two manner of people
Psa_58:3 The wicked are estranged from the womb: they go astray as soon as they be born, speaking lies.
Jer_1:5 Before I formed thee in the belly I knew thee, before thou camest forth out of the womb I sanctified thee, I ordained thee a prophet unto the nations.
---Trav on 5/14/15




I have done it a few times. Most of the time it turned out well. We discussed and came to an understanding.

But I did get one Pastor fired because what he started teaching was false. I met him years latter and he did not remember me. Which I was okay with. He had figured out he was teaching wrong. He had chosen a different career by then.

I am listening to the hymn "You raise me up" Our GOD is great.
---Samuelbb7 on 5/13/15


Rod, I have never attended a church so large that I could not get to speak with the pastor. I've been in churches with as little as 12 members and the larger ones had about 60. We have always had the 'ability' to speak to a pastor but one in particular made himself unavailable because he wanted to just be listened to, obeyed and then we all were to go home like good little children. He went into the ministry in his mid 50s having been a headmaster (he never left that role behind I'm afraid).

The other one who wanted feedback also entered the ministry at a similar age (having owned his own business) but was willing to discuss and learn.

It IS possible for a pastor to learn from the members.
---Rita_H on 5/13/15


//[pastor said]...if we ever felt that he had said something wrong, we must tell him and discuss it, rather than talk about it amongst ourselves.//

This sounds like "abusive teaching." Furthermore, when one speaks on a public forum, it is out for discussion...publicly.
Besides the fact many times it is impossible to "tell him," too large a church, message on a video, or message in writing.

That is a way of "silencing" the laity so they won't discuss with one another one's opinion of things which may differ from his, and thereby he controls the minds of the congregation.

Yes, others' opinions may be their opinion, but many times they have more solid opinions based on scripture and experience.
---Rod4Him on 5/13/15


Yes Jesus had the right to put forth new Scripture. No man since the apostles can say to not follow scripture.

We can discuss their meaning and talk about our understanding. But the Scripture from GOD is the final authority.

In some of those places Jesus was pointing out that the leaders were misquoting scripture or like Satan misusing scripture.

2Timothy 3:16
All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.

Any doctrine that does not agree with Scripture is false.

All hail the power of Jesus name ye ransomed from the Fall. Hymn
---Samuelbb7 on 5/13/15


\\What did Jesus use to defend truth. "It is written"\\

And several other times, He said, "But **I** say unto you....."

Christ is risen!
---Cluny on 5/12/15


Cluny you quote I Timothy 3:16

But you forget what the church is built on.

1Corithians 3:11
For other foundation can no man lay than that is laid, which is Jesus Christ.

Eph 2:19,20

Now therefore ye are no more strangers and foreigners, but fellowcitizens with the saints, and of the household of God,
And are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner stone,

What did Jesus use to defend truth. "It is written"

2 Tim 3:16

Shows us what we are to base our teachings on.

Agape
---Samuelbb7 on 5/12/15


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\\ It is the Word of God that is our foundation for all Truth \\

Yet, it is the Word of God itself that says the CHURCH is the pillar and foundation of truth.

Try again.

Christ is risen!
---Cluny on 5/12/15


I continually challenge my pastor and elders.
Sometimes I'm right when we get into God's Word.
A lot of times I am wrong and they are right.
A very few times we have both been misguided.
It is the Word of God that is our foundation for all Truth and we all must acknowledge error in our judgment and thinking so that we may conform to the image of our Lord Jesus Christ and be of one mind.
---micha9344 on 5/12/15


The pastor I had many years ago told us that, if we ever felt that he had said something wrong, we must tell him and discuss it, rather than talk about it amongst ourselves. I appreciated that. However, on moving to a new church some years later I told some people about what he'd said and was told we should never do that. The pastor of that particular church felt it was fine for him to shout at someone who yawned or whose child was looking irritable or one who was being kept quiet with a toy but 'must never be questioned about such things. I found that rather sad.
---Rita_H on 5/9/15


Anger, but no Priest has the right to change God's Salvation pain according to his view.

Faith doesn't change just because someone is born to tell everyone else what the Bible 'truly' means.
---Nicole_Lacey on 5/9/15


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I have challenged pastors. But when they talked-around and denied what I said, I could get nasty and cry-babying about not being "accepted". So, I saw that I was wrong and needed correction.

Now I am more into listening > "swift to hear, slow to speak, slow to wrath" (in James 1:19). But I will offer things, but be sensitive to if someone is capable of listening and being humble >

"submitting to one another in the fear of God." (Ephesians 5:21)

"nor as being lords over those entrusted to you, but being examples to the flock." (1 Peter 5:3)

When someone really is wrong, they can be stuck on the thing, and I might try instead to help our attention go to what we need to feed on.
---Bill on 5/9/15


I did that one time. The pastor resented it, I was criticized by others.

Said pastor was later divorced by his wife for adultery.

Christ is risen!
---Cluny on 5/8/15


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