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/SEXIST!\
/NO CAN DO!\
/HOW STUPID DO YOU THINK JESUS IS?\
/It amazes me when people who are rude get UPSET when they believe one is rude with them.\
/Don't pull the verse apart to suit your beliefs.\
/Now you are throwing mud.\
/I am paying attention and see your errors\
Pro 27:15 A continual dropping in a very rainy day and a contentious woman are alike.
Luke 6:41 And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but perceivest not the beam that is in thine own eye?
Luke 6:31 And as ye would that men should do to you, do ye also to them likewise.
---micha9344 on 8/7/15


Nicole_Lacey:

You called me a sexist because I addressed priest celibacy but not nun celibacy.

That had nothing to do with sexism, but rather with the fact that Paul specifically addressed the issue of married bishops and said nothing about nuns. I was merely speaking about church policy that directly contradicted scripture. Since nuns were not mentioned, they were not relevant to that specific argument, so I did not address them. If there is any sexism involved here, it is thus on Paul's shoulders, not mine.
---StrongAxe on 8/7/15


Micha, OOPS is right, too late. you made an error. Make sure you have the right people before jumping in the mud. Now you are throwing mud.

I called Strongaxe a Sexist not Jerry. Strongaxe isn't sensitive. He and I debate on many issues. He deny my statement as I deny his statement. Strongaxe isn't thin skin.

Jerry started attacking me first and goes after Cluny as I posted his statements.
Neither Cluny or I complained.

It's Jerry you need to address not me.
We are debating and Jerry needs to realize not everyone is going to agree with him all the time.
---Nicole_Lacey on 8/6/15


/If you are that sensitive, I would suggest you stop throwing mud at others.
Others might and have returned the favor.\-Nicole_Lacey on 8/6/15
/So by using your own words you should realizes you are Sexist.\-Nicole_Lacey on 8/6/15
Oops... Too late.....
---micha9344 on 8/6/15


Nicole, Do you think God is glorified by your lack of civility?---jerry6593 on 8/6/15

Civility: 1. courteous behavior, 2. A courteous act or utterance.

It amazes me when people who are rude get UPSET when they believe one is rude with them.

LOL! And this from Dr. Deflecto himself! Now that we've quashed that lie, perhaps you can answer my questions instead of deflecting again.--jerry6593 on 7/28/15

Nicole: I have no idea what you are trying to say. Please organize your thoughts before you write them...Now what were you talking about?--jerry6593 on 7/29/15

If you are that sensitive, I would suggest you stop throwing mud at others.
Others might and have returned the favor.
---Nicole_Lacey on 8/6/15




Nicole: What is the "MYSTERIOUS of God"?

Do you think God is glorified by your lack of civility?



---jerry6593 on 8/6/15


No Jerry, I am not Jesus and I accept the MYSTERIOUS of God.

It is Jesus who has to prove you wrong not me.

You think Jesus is insulting you.

God is God and you are not.

Be at peace and be happy with Jesus.
---Nicole_Lacey on 8/3/15


Nicole: "That good thief must have thought Jesus was playing a joke on him."

Or that He was lying. Do YOU think that Jesus was lying, joking or just being poetic when he made the statement to the thief? I think you put the comma in the wrong place. It is the ONLY logically consistent explanation.

Why not PROVE me wrong rather than continually hurling insults?


---jerry6593 on 8/3/15


Correct Nicole. The Bible also has sarcasm, imagery, and hyperbole.

1Kings 18:27
And it came to pass at noon, that Elijah mocked them, and said, Cry aloud: for he is a god, either he is talking, or he is pursuing, or he is in a journey, or peradventure he sleepeth, and must be awaked.

I try never to be Sarcastic now. But before I became a Christian it was one of my favorite things to do.

Agape
---Samuelbb7 on 8/2/15


Thank you Strongaxe,
I couldn't have said it better.

I forgot how Jesus was on earth for 40 days after he rose on the third day.
That good thief must have thought Jesus was playing a joke on him.

For those who believe the Bible is always literally, I am sorry to inform you that it isn't all the time.

The Bible uses poetry.

Go have a conservation with a Jew. They are very witty.
---Nicole_Lacey on 8/1/15




Glenn:

You said: StrongAxe 7:31: Moving the comma forward in Luke 23:43 is not only unwarranted, but is a peculiar use of the language.

As I am not a Greek scholar, I cannot speak to where the comma should be placed in this passage. However, my point was that there was no comma in either place in the original Greek, and inasmuch as Greek (or any other language that I am familiar with) has ambiguities in word ordering, the alternate reading may be possible. I cited another classic example (translated) where that was indeed the case.
---StrongAxe on 8/1/15


Glenn:

How could Jesus have meant "I tell you, today you will be with me in paradise" if Jesus died, then was in hell three days, and not in paradise until 40 days after that?
---StrongAxe on 8/1/15


Mans creation is mentioned in Genesis 1:27 (the sixth day). It would be logical to both say that no men existed before the first two in existence, and that descendants can't precede their own antecedents.
StrongAxe 7:31: Moving the comma forward in Luke 23:43 is not only unwarranted, but is a peculiar use of the language. In the other 70+ uses of amen G281 soi G4671 lego G3004, even the Russelites keep the comma in place. Luke understood the grammatical rules, and would have written it in a different way had he wanted to say -today semeron G4594 I say-. AGREEKBIBLECODEXLACKEDPUNCTUATIONYETTHEGREEKSCOULDEASILYREADTHEM.
---Glenn on 7/31/15


Thanks Strongaxe, but I don't have a problem believing a day can be longer than 24 hours in some parts of the Bible.

Jerry and Micha are the 2 that seems to be stuck, but are just spinning words and forgetting the topic spoken.

That is the only way Jerry can get out of debating by claiming I am confused because I pointed out HIS ERROR.

Samuel, yes we say Jesus went to hell, but not the hell where the demons and evil people will be forever.
It is a state of being where Adam and all holy people were before Jesus entered our time.
He released them and they are in Heaven now.
Go to CCC on the internet and type the words 'Jesus descended to hell' for better clarification.
---Nicole_Lacey on 7/31/15


Nicole_Lacey:

Punctuation is a fairly recent invention, to help us avoid ambiguity that often otherwise occurs. Some (such as the Jehovah's Witnesses) believe that this phrase is "I tell you today, you will be with me in paradise", which means eventual (but not instant) translation to heaven.

Greek is full of such ambiguities, as are other languages. One I read long ago was about a mother whose son went to war, and she consulted the Delphic Oracle about his safety. She thought the oracle said "fear not, your son will return from battle", but the message was actually "fear, not your son will return from battle" (and due to the ambiguous wording, one could never prove the oracle wrong).
---StrongAxe on 7/31/15


Thanks Michael for that breath of sanity. Nicole seems to enjoy arguing rather than debating.


Perhaps I should use her own words to imply self-contradiction, as:

"TODAY you will be with Me in paradise. ... Only Jesus was dead. (She might also quote Jesus' own admission to Mary that He did not go to heaven that day.)

Actually, I see in her remarks on this subject the belief that her source of "truth" is NOT the Bible, but rather a man's.


---jerry6593 on 7/31/15


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Jesus's words to the thief can mean I am saying to you today, that we will meet in paradise.

The RCC has taught that Jesus went to hell. The harrowing of hell. New Advent Catholic Encylopedia. "This is the Old English and Middle English term for the triumphant descent of Christ into hell (or Hades) between the time of His Crucifixion and His Resurrection, when, according to Christian belief,"

So Jesus didn't go to heaven but to hell. Which makes this a promise that on this day we will meet when you are resurrected in the first resurrection. Revelation 20:5,6

The Bible speaks of six days. Some people try to make each day 6,000 years long. A doctrine he should have explained. But we run out of ...
---Samuelbb7 on 7/31/15


Micha, please explain Jesus' Words when he told the good thief that TODAY you will be with Me in paradise.

Since he wasn't dead on the cross when they broke his legs. Only Jesus was dead according to the Bible if that is your only source of reference.

Jerry was the one tell me to organize my thoughts when he had a day as 24 hours and a day being 6000 day or hours.

I used his words and he is telling me to organize my thoughts.
They were his thoughts to organize not mine.
---Nicole_Lacey on 7/30/15


Jerry's posts seemed understandable to me.
He was answering according to his belief based on a correct interpretation of the verses, such as 1 day = 1 day and 6 days = 6 days.
**Pro 26:4 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest thou also be like unto him.
He also shown that an incorrect interpretation of the passages, such as 1 day = 1k years, is vanity, since 6k years is still not enough time for that much change.
**Pro 26:5 Answer a fool according to his folly, lest he be wise in his own conceit.
If one does not gain understanding from this biblical approach, it is not the presenters fault.
**Pro 12:15 The way of a fool [is] right in his own eyes: but he that hearkeneth unto counsel [is] wise.
---micha9344 on 7/30/15


Nicole: And your point is?????---jerry6593 on 7/30/15

The point is that you are so confused that you don't even KNOW what you WROTE yourself.

I reposted your OWN comments. You were saying 2 opposites.
Either a day is 24 hours or 6000 hours or whatever you wrote.

And you are telling me to organize my thoughts????

Those were your thoughts not mine. How can I explain YOUR thoughts to you?

I CAN'T MY FRIEND.
Take a mental day.
---Nicole_Lacey on 7/30/15


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Nicole: And your point is?????
---jerry6593 on 7/30/15


Nicole: I have no idea what you are trying to say. Please organize your thoughts before you write them.---jerry6593 on 7/29/15

Jerry, they are your thoughts I reposted.
You should be confused.

Again. Using your words:

The language of the Bible clearly indicates that Creation was a six literal day event, followed by a single day of rest.--jerry6593 on 7/25/15

Even 6000 years is not enough for the eons postulated to be necessary for the magic of Evolution that you adore..-jerry6593 on 7/27/15

Gather your thoughts and stop bouncing around.

A day is either literally 24 hours or 6000 years.

Make up your mind.
---Nicole_Lacey on 7/29/15


Nicole: I have no idea what you are trying to say. Please organize your thoughts before you write them.

My thesis is simple. God Himself wrote in stone that we are to work six "literal" days and rest on the Sabbath Day. He wrote that this was a memorial of the Creation week (see Exo 20: 8-11). Evolutionists like to posit that God could have meant 1000 years for each day. But I say "So what?", as even 6000 years is not nearly long enough for their lame theory to work.

Now what were you talking about?

---jerry6593 on 7/29/15


I did address both, just Peter specifically.
You said, "I can remember 2 other places in the Bible where a day equals one thousand to God."
Neither passage says that.
So, lets review the Psalms passage then.
Psa 90:4 For a thousand years in thy sight are but as yesterday when it is past, and as a watch in the night.
To say that 1k years = 1 day from this passage, one would also have to say that 1k years = 3 hours (a watch in the night).
This passage, as well as Peter's, just shows the timelessness of God. it has nothing to do with the context of Gen 1.
The context of Gen 1 clearly shows the creation days to be normal days with 1 evening, 1 morning, 1 daytime, and 1 nighttime each.
God set this up on day one.
---micha9344 on 7/28/15


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Micha9344: Well said! The language of the Bible clearly indicates that Creation was a six literal day event, followed by a single day of rest.--jerry6593 on 7/25/15

So what? --jerry6593 on 7/26/15

Because you claim it was LITERAL 6 DAYS FIRST.
Now you say 'So what?'

REALLY?

Debate, don't be childish.

Micha, you only address Peter, but fail to address Psalm's.

The point is that both of you all FORGOT the Bible speaks about a single day in 2 different time dimensions.
---Nicole_Lacey on 7/27/15


As it says in Genesis that God created Adam the first man on Earth in his own image. So to answer your question, no cavemen did not come before Adam.
Blessings
---edna3756 on 7/27/15


cluny: "If you could have, you would have, instead of deflecting."

LOL! And this from Dr. Deflecto himself!

The two that came to mind were the 10 hours that the sun retrograded for Hezekiah (Isa 38:8) and the extra day of sunlight for Joshua (Jos 10:13).

Now that we've quashed that lie, perhaps you can answer my questions instead of deflecting again.

Exo 20:8-11 commands working six days a week and resting the seventh. How long is your work week? 6000 years? 100 million years? 4.5 billion years?



---jerry6593 on 7/28/15


\\Yes, I can. But so what?\\

If you could have, you would have, instead of deflecting.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 7/27/15


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cluny: "There are two places in the Bible where an earthly day was LONGER than 24 hours. Let's see if jerry can tell us where they are."

Yes, I can. But so what? Even 6000 years is not enough for the eons postulated to be necessary for the magic of Evolution that you adore.

Besides, Exo 20:8-11 commands working six days a week and resting the seventh. How long is your work week? 6000 years?


---jerry6593 on 7/27/15


\\Nicole: "Jerry, I can remember 2 other places in the Bible where a day equals one thousand to God."\\

There are two places in the Bible where an earthly day was LONGER than 24 hours.

Let's see if jerry can tell us where they are.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 7/26/15


/I can remember 2 other places in the Bible where a day equals one thousand to God.\-Nicole_Lacey on 7/25/15
-Your memory has failed you.
It is not "equals", and not day to day. It is comaparitive (as), and is year to day
And what did you do with the 2nd part of 1Pet?
2Pe 3:8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.
By your reason, it only took 1.419 seconds to create everything.
Don't rely on your memory, but read the Word of God.
/he permitted Noah to eat clean animals.\
-All animals (Gen 9:3).
/all the wicked ones God destroyed were vegetarians?\-StrongAxe on 7/25/15
They were wicked, so prob. not vegetarian.
---micha9344 on 7/26/15


Nicole: "Jerry, I can remember 2 other places in the Bible where a day equals one thousand to God."

So what? Even 6000 years is not enough for the eons postulated to be necessary for the magic of Evolution.

Besides, Exo 20:8-11 commands working six days a week and resting the seventh. How long is your work week? 6000 years?




---jerry6593 on 7/26/15


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Not so fast Micha and Jerry, I can remember 2 other places in the Bible where a day equals one thousand to God.

Psalm 90:4 OT
2 Peter 3:8 NT

So, the Jewish people knew God's method of time (He actually doesn't live in time) is longer than our day to day of time worth.

Sorry Faith for Faith, but man left me and all of mankind access to 73 books of the Bible not 66.
If the men you know only allows you access to 66 books of the Bible, you have been cheated my friend.
---Nicole_Lacey on 7/25/15


MAN has allowed us to have access to SIXty SIX books of scripture (the word "BIBLE" is not in scripture) to form our perception of the Creator and has taught many "lies" (perdition).....three 6's.

The SEA PEOPLES were an ancient culture of a half dozen tribes that were like the Vikings (seafaring invaders) and they became wealthy from their conquests.

Rev 18:17
In one hour all this wealth has been laid waste." And all shipmasters and seafaring men

Rev 18:19
ships at sea grew rich by her wealth


Rev 20:8
like the sand of the sea.

Rev 21:1
and the sea was no more.

There is alot to be understood.

"TIME" (history) has not been recorded properly.
---FAITHFORFAITH on 7/25/15


Micha9344: Well said! The language of the Bible clearly indicates that Creation was a six literal day event, followed by a single day of rest. This is the singular origin of our current 7-day week. The weekly cycle of 6 days work and Sabbath rest was kept by Christ and ALL His disciples. It is still kept by millions today.

The concept of eons-long creation days is a modern attempt to allow for long-age Darwinian Evolution - an anti-Biblical concept.


---jerry6593 on 7/25/15


jerry6593:

You said: Here is the pre-flood diet: Gen 1:29 ... Do you think God made a mistake?

Well, he DID change his mind, because AFTER the flood, he permitted Noah to eat clean animals.

We're currently under Jesus's covenant, not Moses's, and not Adam's. How far back in time do you want to go?

And isn't it odd how the only 8 righteous people on the planet were meat-eaters, while all the wicked ones God destroyed were vegetarians?
---StrongAxe on 7/25/15


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/We don't know for sure about TIME.\-faithforfaith on 7/24/15
-We are sure about these--Exo 20:9 Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work:
Exo 16:5 And it shall come to pass, that on the sixth day they shall prepare...
1Co 15:4 And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:
1Sa 17:16 And the Philistine drew near morning and evening, and presented himself forty days.
-But not these?--Exo 20:11 For [in] six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them [is]...
Gen 1:31 ...And the evening and the morning were the sixth day.
1:13 And the evening and the morning were the third day.
1:5 ...And the evening and the morning were the first day.
Context
---micha9344 on 7/24/15


In Genesis 1:1 (paraphrased) we are told that "In the beginning", the earth was simply a ball of matter in the universe. It had no useful form (it was empty/"void)...and then the Creator performed the 7 steps of creation (they were each called CREATION "days" that were 1 second long each or 1000 years each...maybe 1 million years ago).


We don't know for sure about TIME.
---faithforfaith on 7/24/15


To answer the blog question:
No, Adam was the first man.
There were cavemen before and after the flood.
Most of what we consider "cavemen" are groups that dispersed from the Tower of Babel, having only limited knowledge, but very intelligent. Because of the dispersion and needing a quick and easy form of shelter, many found caves to be a good place to meet the requirements.
Lot was a caveman for a time.(Gen 19:30)
Israel were cavemen for a time.(Jud 6:2)
There are even cavemen today, living the best way they know how, safe from the environment.
There will be cavemen in the last days also.
---micha9344 on 6/25/15


Leon, you didn't read down enough to the start of the question. Rita and I have been discussing it for several days.

Yes,and they found their bones. They built cities.
That's why Cane is afraid of someone will kill him.
Cane knew his parents were not going kill him.
Other creatures were roaming around.---Nicole_Lacey on 6/17/15

I don't intend to start an argument with you Nicole but I believe that every word you say, on this particular blog on 6/17/15, is wrong. If you believe the bible, literally, you would not believe that either.---Rita_H on 6/18/15

---Nicole_Lacey on 6/23/15


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Jerry 6953 I'm sorry but no I didn't say all before the flood people were Giants. It also doesn't mean Noah and his family were Giants. The Giants were evidently in tribes and separate from normal size people. Some of the Giant graves found in USA were as long as 25 feet,22 feet, and really huge they dwarf normal size people. God Bless
---Darlene_1 on 6/23/15


///...There is more to this, than any of us can know, I would say.
---Bill on 6/16/15///

Bill: We can know MORE only if we pay attention to what God says (instructs) thru the Bible. God's plan is not for us to labor & try & figure it out for ourselves. He wants us to listen, pay attention to, hear & obey what He has to say on all such matters of life.

///...Most people don't realize that ALL the ancient, pre-flood people were giants...---jerry6593 on 6/21/15///

That's not Bible Jerry! G6:4 doesn't say ALL people were giants. If ALL were giants then none would be recognized as such since ALL would've been relatively the same size. :) Giants existed pre- & post-flood ( & live today).
---Leon on 6/23/15


They are different in that one lived before the flood and the other lived after the flood. It's that simple.---Jed on 6/22/15

No, not simple according to the Bible.

The people who lived before the universal flood DIED except 8 who are on the boat. They are the people before the universal flood and the same people after the universal flood.

How are they different?
Same DNA.
Basely, Noah is everyone's grandfather.
---Nicole_Lacey on 6/23/15


///...Who do you think Cain was afraid of killing him?...
Please tell me your opinion [?], because no one really knows [?]...---Nicole_Lacey on 6/20/15///

Nicole: If no one really knows, what do you hope to accomplish by asking the question?

Your answer to who was Cain afraid of is in G4:14-15, i.e., "every one... whosoever". Since Eve was the mother of all living (G3:20) that means she & Adam had other children (likely girls) before Cain & Abel. Cain had a wife, most likely a sister OR niece.(G4:17). It's quite possible his brother Abel also had a wife & probably children to. If that was the case, then they would more than likely be the "every one...whosoever" Cain feared.
---Leon on 6/23/15


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/Most people don't realize that ALL the ancient, pre-flood people were giants.\
This may be a false statement. God designed His creation with variety. Humans are not like goldfish, they longer they live, they bigger they get, but the diversity built into our DNA shows in many ways, including height. I think we have lost most of this gene due to fear. Look at the children of Arbor and the children of Gath, even through David's time.
/They were also stronger and more intelligent that us moderns.\
I believe this to be true- not necessarily because of stature though.
/everything gets bigger, better and smarter with time.\-jerry6593 on 6/21/15
The theory never emphasizes "bigger", just "better."
---micha9344 on 6/23/15


Jed: "Jerry, that doesn't even make sense. Vegetarians are typically small and weak compared to those with a balanced diet."

Boy, have you been brainwashed. Many star athletes are vegetarian. Vegetarians are healthier and live longer than their meat-eating counterparts.

Here is the pre-flood diet:

Gen 1:29 And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed, to you it shall be for meat.

Do you think God made a mistake?


---jerry6593 on 6/23/15


Nichole, a pre-flood human is a human that lived prior to the universal flood recorded in Genesis. A post-flood human is a human that lived after the flood. They are different in that one lived before the flood and the other lived after the flood. It's that simple.
---Jed on 6/22/15


Thanks Leon, but that isn't my confusion. The before and after people are the same people made in the Image of God.

Some are using the pre and post as if they were different creatures.

All the DNA still comes from the people who where pre-flood to make the post-flood humans.

They are all the same.

God didn't make a new set of people post flooding of the earth.

He just picked 8 people pre flood and drowned the rest in the rain.
The pre-flood people where the only people post-flood.
SAME PEOPLE
?????
STILL CONFUSED, Truly please someone explain.
---Nicole_Lacey on 6/22/15


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Nicole: "Pre" means before the flood happened. "Post" means after the flood happened. Those prefixes are used to just establish a historical timeline of events.
---Leon on 6/22/15


What is a pre-flood human?

Isn't Adam, Eve, Cain, Abel, Seth and Noah all pre-flood humans since they came before the flood?

How are they different from post humans?

Why are we calling them pre and post instead just humans?
---Nicole_Lacey on 6/22/15


Jerry, that doesn't even make sense. Vegetarians are typically small and weak compared to those with a balanced diet. So IF pre-flood humans were indeed vegetarian as you claim, they should have grown larger and stronger when.they finally started eating meat and receiving all the nutrients that they were intended to as omnivores. Secondly, we know that Cain was a lifestock farmer.
---Jed on 6/22/15


Jerry: "Most people don't realize that ALL the ancient, pre-flood people were giants." If that is fact then Noah and ALL his family would have been giants as they were pre-flood people. Therefore, it should be no surprise that there were giants AFTER the flood also.
However, as I have never heard this before, could you give bible verses which show that ALL pre-flood people actually were giants?
---Rita_H on 6/22/15


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Darlene: Noah and his family WERE giants! Their descendants' stature began to shrink along with their lifespan as they transitioned from a vegetarian to a carnivorous diet. This, together with a drastic reduction in atmospheric oxygen and other environmental changes after the flood.


---jerry6593 on 6/22/15


Jerry 6953 You're welcome. The Giants were living before the flood and after the flood. That appears to me to indicate the Giants were taken on the Ark like any other thing that was saved. Evidently God did not consider them in the same way He did Noah and his family since there were eight souls saved on the Ark. That also would make me wonder what other human type creature was on the Ark. There are many wonderful questions to be asked and few wonderful answers to receive. God Bless
---Darlene_1 on 6/21/15


THANKS RITA for answering.
Genesis 4:14-16 Since you have now banished me from the soil, and I must avoid your presence [Protection, because he claiming God will not be with him. So God isn't killing him]

...anyone may kill me at sight [Not God, he is avoiding His presence]

..Not so! the Lord said to him. "If anyone kills Cain, Cain shall be avenged sevenfold."[God can't forget His words and punish Himself]
..Lord put a mark on Cain, lest anyone should kill him at sight.[God doesn't need markings to remember who Cain is]
..Cain then LEFT THE LORD'S PRESENCE and settled in the land of Nod. east of Eden.
[God still knows where Cain is living.]

Now since we know Cain isn't afraid of God who is anyone?
---Nicole_Lacey on 6/21/15


Nicole_Lacey 6/20: Cain may very well have imagined that his parents might still have other children. And so, he could have been fearful of his own future mundane descendants (Genesis 4:1-24), and those of Seth *1. If women were fertile for hundreds of years, some folks opine that a billion + people could have been born by the time of the flood, 6:11-13. *1 There are some Jewish writers who supposed that 5:4 is not referring to Adam's 3 sons and 2 (or more) daughters, but more than 50 children. But 6:2 demonstrates that there was intermarriage between only two lines, Seth and Cain.
---Glenn on 6/21/15


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"Who do you think Cain was afraid of killing him?" Answer - GOD.
---Rita_H on 6/21/15


Darlene: Thanks for that. Most people don't realize that ALL the ancient, pre-flood people were giants. They were also stronger and more intelligent that us moderns. Quite the opposite of the Darwinian paradigm in which everything gets bigger, better and smarter with time.



---jerry6593 on 6/21/15


Since a certain person won't answer me can anyone else answer my question?
Aservant, will you give me a direct answer as before.
Who do you think Cain was afraid of killing him?
His parents or other beings roaming the earth, but not made in God's Image as us.
Or other people made by God, but not mentioned in the Bible.
Please tell me your opinion, because no one really knows.
Thank you.
---Nicole_Lacey on 6/20/15


I wanted to be an Anthropologist when I was in High school but that wasn't possible but I have always had a strong interest on who or what came before us. Did you know that the graves of 18 foot or taller,Giants have been uncovered in the USA and around the world. Now the Bible tells us there were Giants in the world and this just bears that out. The Bible tells us that some people in the Old Testament took refuge in caves but that still leaves the question of the fossils and when were the different types humans on earth. Lots of questions that are not spelled out in the Bible and frankly they don't mean a thing to our salvation. We can wonder about all of it but should never make it important because it isn't. God Bless
---Darlene_1 on 6/20/15


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No! There are parallel verses in the first and second chapters of Genesis that concern the one and only creation of man, 1:26-31, 2:7,8, 15-25. In 3:20, "And Adam called his wife's name Eve," (H2332 Chavvah lifegiver) "because she was the mother of all living". H2416 khah'ee living here refers to people. And Acts 17:26, ..."one blood all nations of men"...
Note: Hebrew and Greek do not share the same logical
construct, and have different grammatical rules.
---Glenn on 6/19/15


No! There are parallel verses in the first and second chapters of Genesis that concern the one and only creation of man, 1:26-31, 2:7,8, 15-25. In 3:20, "And Adam called his wife's name Eve," (H2332 Chavvah lifegiver) "because she was the mother of all living". H2416 khah'ee living here refers to people. And Acts 17:26, ..."one blood all nations of men"...
Note: Hebrew and Greek do not share the same logical
construct, and have different grammatical rules.
---Glenn on 6/20/15


There were no humans prior to Adam and Eve. Cluny's Mom was right - some people just happened to live in caves.



---jerry6593 on 6/20/15


Rita, how long is a day during creation? God created man from His image on Day 6.
The other people Cain feared were not created in His image.

But, you still refuse to again 2 questions.

1. Are you claiming Cain feared his parents?
A simple yes or no.

2. Do you take Jesus at His Word in the Gospel of John chapter 6?

If you can't answer those question esp. John 6, then you are not sure of your own beliefs.

Remember, you were the one who started speaking about taking the Bible literally not me.
I answer all questions and comments directed towards me because in the letter of Peter, he instructed us to be READY to explain your belief at all times to anyone who ask.
---Nicole_Lacey on 6/19/15


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My answer to Gregory's original blog question is NO - I do not believe that there were any other beings, on this earth, before Adam. They would have had no place to live as it was 'without form and void'

There is plenty of evidence of cavemen, but not evidence that they lived prior to Adam.

Not until Genesis 2 verse 6 do we read that God caused a 'mist' to water the ground and cause to grow those things which God had already placed in the ground. Then in verse 7 we read that God created man.

Who would have survived earlier without water?
---Rita_H on 6/19/15


Trav, I was being facetious.
---learner2 on 6/18/15


Rita, please read the blog's question. I never had the word Bible in my statement. Cavemen isn't in the Bible either. The blogger didn't say give Biblical verses.
I said Cain was afraid other people were going to kill him. Or do you thing Cain was afraid of his parents?

That's the problem. You make a statement and then put it in someone's statement.
You brought up taking the Bible literally, not me.
Do you take Gospel John chapter 6 literally? Yes or No.

Why is it some here question, but refused to be questioned?
Please don't twist my words around.
For the record, I take John 6 literally. Jesus explained Himself clearly and to the point. So much that all the Disciples except the 12 LEFT Him OVER His Words in John 6.
---Nicole_Lacey on 6/18/15


Nicole 'I take John chapter 6 literally, but you don't. Why?'

Your entry of 6.17.15 is not about John chapter 6. It is about Cain.
---Rita_H on 6/18/15


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Rita this is America. It's okay if you believe everything I say is wrong.
Sorry, it doesn't mean I am wrong even on this blog.

I take John chapter 6 literally, but you don't. Why?

I don't try to make excuses for not following Jesus' Words.
Many here run to Paul and distort his words in order not to follow Jesus.

No feeling hurt.
I know I am in the correct Church. I hope you feel the same. If not then you need to find the Church.

I have the Bible backing up all my beliefs. All complaints have been made several centuries ago, and the RCC answered them all.

I am sorry, but there isn't anything new under the sun.
---Nicole_Lacey on 6/18/15


...no cavemen before Adam because the universe was only in its sixth day of existence when Adam was created.
---learner2 on 6/17/15

But, Adam does not appear until Gen 2, created a tiller of ground:
Gen 2:5 ...there was not a man to till the ground.
Gen 2:7 the LORD God formed man of the dust,...
Gen 2:8...there he put the man whom he had formed.

Hunter gatherers in Gen 1. Cavemen types.
Gen 1:27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him, male and female created he them.
Gen 1:29 God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed, to you it shall be for meat.
---Trav on 6/18/15


I don't intend to start an argument with you Nicole but I believe that every word you say, on this particular blog on 6/17/15, is wrong. If you believe the bible, literally, you would not believe that either.
---Rita_H on 6/18/15


Yes,and they found their bones. They built cities.
That's why Cane is afraid of someone will kill him.
Cane knew his parents were not going kill him.
Other creatures were roaming around.
---Nicole_Lacey on 6/17/15


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Well, Cluny . . . since it was your mother (c: lololol I'll be good about what I say (c:

A person can be highly capable and live in a cave, I would say.

So, it can be "both" and not one way or another.

Humans can try to make a lot of things that they don't really need. Having a cave can be simpler, and allow the time for things like prayer and family sharing, since one does not need to spend a lot of time working to pay for a big house and two or three cars and computers and video games for each one to do one's own thing . . . and . . . and . . .

"be content with such things as you have" (in Hebrews 13:5)

But, where I am, I have yet to see a cave.
---Bill on 6/17/15


There were no cavemen before Adam because the universe was only in its sixth day of existence when Adam was created.
---learner2 on 6/17/15


\\So, if there were "primitive" "cave men", they could have been the result of a cultural reversal.\\

I don't claim my mother was a great theologian, but she had a good idea in the following:

I had children's science books that talked about the Early, Middle, and Late Stone Ages--cavemen, in other words.

I asked Mom how this fit in with what I was learning in Sunday School.

She said that when Adam and Eve were expelled, they and their first descendants lived in caves or wherever else they could, but as human beings yearned for God, this resulted in the rise of civilization.

How does that sound?

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 6/16/15


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