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I am wondering what are the real true reasons to become Roman Catholic?

Is there Biblical Reasons for making a decision?

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Jesus never told Peter he was the Rock...--Darlene_1 on 6/23/15

I lost my last entry.
2nd attempt.

Darlene, why are you quoting from Paul and not Jesus your Lord and Savior?

Jesus did call Peter the Rock, so much that He CHANGED
his name to ROCK
Peter's name was Simon.
Peter doesn't mean little stone either.

Jesus called Himself the CORNERSTONE which is a different type of rock. It stands between 2 stone connecting each together. Some Scholars believe the sides are Jewish and Gentiles.

Please please give me Scripture from the GOSPELS where Jesus calls HIMSELF THE ROCK.
---Nicole_Lacey on 6/23/15


Samuel, thank you for believing me when I said I am born again.
Most people have told me I wasn't because I was a toddle at the time.
---Nicole_Lacey on 6/23/15


Jesus never told Peter he was the Rock and on him He would build His church. Matthew 16:16,17,18 Peter said Thou art the Christ the son of the living God. Jesus told Peter His Father had revealed it to him. Jesus told Peter,thou art Peter,and upon this rock I will build my church,--. Jesus was telling Peter that His church would be built on the Spiritual knowledge and belief that Jesus is the Christ the son of the living God. He wasn't talking about Peter but what Peter Spiritually had revealed to him by God. Christs church has been built on mans belief Jesus is the son of God. 1 Corinthians 10:4 And did all drink the same spiritual drink for they drank of that spiritual Rock that followed them,and that Rock was Christ. God Bless
---Darlene_1 on 6/23/15


David is correct in his understanding of Hebrews. The OLD priesthood was done away IN CHRIST.-kathr4453 on 6/21/15

Kathryn
I threw a bucket of water on the fire, and yet you were the only one who noticed.
Truth can be hard to accept.
---David on 6/23/15


Cluny:

You wrote: The very people who picket, pray, and engage in sidewalk counseling at the aborturaries are the SAME people who help women with crisis pregnancies.

The very politicians (i.e. right wing "Christian" Republicans) who move heaven and earth to ensure that every fetus survives childbirth are the same ones who consistently vote to cut funding to social programs like food stamps, welfare, school lunches, and health care - making it less likely that those very same children will survive much past childbirth. It seems like their motto is "we love you until you're born - after that, you're on your own". So who is worthy of your vote?
---StrongAxe on 6/23/15




Monk: "Who are these apostates?"

Two of the main ones were Clement of Alexandria and Origen.


The Jewish festival of Pentecost occurred only once a year, but Sunday occurs 52 times a year. How do you reconcile this difference?

Why did Paul customarily keep the Sabbath after Pentecost? Why is the Bible silent about the change of Sabbath to Sunday? Why does the Catholic Church claim that Sunday sacredness is HER invention?


---jerry6593 on 6/23/15


You can put Him last, but you are saying to Jesus, I will worship you when I am finished with my other duties. Nicole_Lacey

I am glad to hear you were Born Again two years ago. I was Born again 42 years ago.

I start every day with worship and study. I spend a day in worship and study from Sunset Friday to Sunset Saturday as GOD said to do. I don't decide to do things my way but listen to the words of Jesus and follow HIm.

John 14:15
If ye love me, keep my commandments.

John 15:10
If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love, even as I have kept my Father's commandments, and abide in his love.
---Samuelbb7 on 6/23/15


\\If Christians and unbelievers spent more time providing ways to women and young girls in their situation, would there be a need to stand outside of Abortion Centers.
\\

The very people who picket, pray, and engage in sidewalk counseling at the aborturaries are the SAME people who help women with crisis pregnancies.

For all the other side's talk about "choice," they get very angry when women change their minds and choose life for their babies.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 6/22/15


//Since Peter went to Rome after the Ascension and Pentecost, it's VERY unlikely that Jesus would have mentioned it.//
It's very likely Peter would have mentioned it.
Paul went to Rome after the ascension, and it is verified by the Bible.
It's highly unlikely Peter was in Rome as per Gal 2:8,9
---michael_e on 6/22/15


StrongAxe wrote: "Yet all are matters of fact, nonetheless, and disputing their accuracy because one doesn't consider them important is foolish."

Facts? According to whom? Bible scholars? The whereabouts of Peter and Paul has been debated for centuries. Where are the facts?
---Steveng on 6/22/15




\\Is there any place in the Bible where Jesus gives any hint or any record of any kind that Peter was ever in Rome?---michael_e on 6/20/15\\

Since Peter went to Rome after the Ascension and Pentecost, it's VERY unlikely that Jesus would have mentioned it.

Not all church history is mentioned in the Bible.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 6/22/15


Thank you Arron for your acknowledgement.

Yes, Samuel I was born again on August 1973. I was 23 months ago when I was Baptized and became a Christian because God chose me, not I chose Him.
I have reminded a Christian because God never forces me to be His disciple.

St. John Paul II was correct because the Apostles were the Church. Same thing.

Jesus rose on a Sunday so, we start our week on the right foot. Jesus first in our lives including our week. You can put Him last, but you are saying to Jesus, I will worship you when I am finished with my other duties.
---Nicole_Lacey on 6/22/15


Hi Aaron,

1. catholics are not Christians and Christians are not catholic.

2. There are more effective ways to bring change other than standing outside of Abortion Centers. If Christians and unbelievers spent more time providing ways to women and young girls in their situation, would there be a need to stand outside of Abortion Centers.
Many Christians Denominations are more effective and have saved more lives based on what i said above and numerous other ways.

3. Don't get me wrong abortion is barbaric, but what is more horrendous is those who have never heard the gospel going to hell. Abortion has an end, but a loss soul on the way to hell will be there forever.
---john9346 on 6/22/15


Nicole, you said:

So why did PETER in ACTS states why they needed to replace Judas?

Ans: Replacing Judas has nothing to do with succession.

Read Acts and you will see how Paul kept going to Peter clarifying arguments?

Ans: scripture please... Peter said in his epistle Paul knew things even Peter had a hard time understanding, yet praised Paul and instructed to listen to Paul


I don't care if Peter doesn't call himself the rock.
Because Jesus CALLED him the Rock.

Ans: Jesus never called Peter THE ROCK. Jesus is THE ROCK Jesus never passed His title or authority to another. ..and never will. The ONLY head of the Church is Jesus Christ
---kathr4453 on 6/22/15


While I am not Roman Catholic and am not persuaded to become Catholic, yet if I were to become Roman Catholic, my reason would be because Catholics are often outside abortion clinics with the "choose life" message that other branches of christendom set aside.
---aaron on 6/22/15


Monk Brendon what do you consider the Bible way to be Born Again?

I was Born again when the Power of the Holy Spirit came into me and I feel sorry for my sins and repented and turned to JESUS CRHIST to save me. I trusted Him as my Lord and Savior. I turned from a live of sin to one of love and caring for others. I was then Baptized by immersion as the Didache and the Bible teach.

Nicole have you been Born Again.

Sunday is never mentioned as a day of worship in the New Testament. The Sabbath was still called the Sabbath.

In fact of centuries the RCC made the false claim they changed the day. Until the Pope John Paul 2 stated it was the apostles not the church that did it. So why centuries of lying?
---Samuelbb7 on 6/22/15


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"So then, brethren, stand firm and hold to the traditions which you were taught, whether by word of mouth or by letter from us," (NASB)
---john9346 on 6/22/15


Jerry, Monk Brendan explained the celebration of Pentecost very well.

But I want to mention that our Celebrations are a copy of the Jewish people.
They have Pentecost after Passover.
So as Monk Brendan explained 50 days occurring after Passover is the same for us having Pentecost 50 days from Easter is important because Jesus wasn't not Passed over for us so we can be passed by the death.

Plus Jesus is our Lamb and in Exodus 12, you have to eat the Lamb to be passed as Jesus states in John 6 that we must EAT His Body and Blood for external life.

Also in Acts the word Christians were named. John, the youngest and Beloved Disciple was still alive.
---Nicole_Lacey on 6/22/15


Is there any place in the Bible where Jesus gives any hint or any record of any kind that Peter was ever in Rome?---michael_e on 6/20/15

There wasn't any mention of creating a NT for the Bible either but many here replaced it for the Church even though Jesus didn't MENTION it in the Bible.

As if Jesus didn't start a Church with Peter having the Keys to bound and unbound on earth and heaven.

OBEY JESUS.
---Nicole_Lacey on 6/22/15


Samuel BB said, "True Monk Brendon Sunday keeping is a man made construct. The Roman Catholic church does not teach the same thing as the Bible.

Have you been Born Again?"


The Roman Catholic (and Orthodox--it was just ONE Church at the time) wrote the Bible--or at least put it together. Besides that, for hundreds of years, there were monks faithfully copying the Bible by hand. If anyone's teaching is going to line up with the Bible, it will be the pre-reformation Churches.

And yes, I am Born Again!

Have you been Born Again through some sort of revival, or just in the SDA way, as opposed to the Bible Way?

Pray for me,
the unworthy monk Brendan
---Monk_Brendan on 6/22/15


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Jerry said, "Sunday worship was NOT instituted at Pentecost. It is not commanded to be observed in the Bible in recognition of the resurrection - baptism is. Sunday observance by Christians did not come into existence until after the deaths of ALL the apostles. It was brought in by pagan-influenced apostate church fathers."

Who are these apostates?


Pentecost was always on the first day of the week--what we now call Sunday, because it is 50 (7 weeks x 7 days +1) days after the Sabbath of Passover. (Leviticus 23). 50 days after a Sabbath will always be a Sunday. Hence, the Church began on a Sunday, and keeps the Sunday as a memorial to the day of His Resurrection.

Pray for me,
the unworthy monk Brendan
---Monk_Brendan on 6/22/15


In "time past"(Matt-John) was the earthly ministry of... Israel. In Acts Israel falls and salvation goes to the Gentiles through Paul.
The "middle wall of partition" is down, Jew and Gentile (ethnos) equal.
---michael_e on 6/12/15

You state in Acts Israel falls? Judah does not compose/equal all 12 units of Israel.
"Middle wall is the division between Judah and the Northern house of Israel (Ten).
Paul does not go against the Prophets. You do, being taught perhaps a misunderstanding.

Eph_2:14 For he is our peace, who hath made both one, ...
Eze 37:17 join them one to another into one stick, and they shall become one...
---Trav on 6/22/15


There are no successors in the Church. Never have been and never will be. David is correct in his understanding of Hebrews. The OLD priesthood was done away IN CHRIST...even Peter never makes such claims of himself. ---kathr4453 on 6/21/15

So why did PETER in ACTS states why they needed to replace Judas?

Read Acts and you will see how Paul kept going to Peter clarifying arguments?

I don't care if Peter doesn't call himself the rock.
Because Jesus CALLED him the Rock.

What, Jesus' Words isn't enough for you?

Quit running to NT outside of the Gospels to disagree with Jesus.
---Nicole_Lacey on 6/22/15


Some good points. It does not matter where Peter died.

What matters is the Jesus died to atone for sin and rose again that he might be our intercessor in Heaven.

The Church is founded on Jesus and all the Apostles. 1Corithians 3:11
For other foundation can no man lay than that is laid, which is Jesus Christ.

Eph 2:19,20

Now therefore ye are no more strangers and foreigners, but fellow citizens with the saints, and of the household of God, And are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner stone,

On Christ the solid rock I stand.
---Samuelbb7 on 6/22/15


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Monk: "this is a man-made construct, brought about by the various Christian governments from the first Pentecost until today."

Sunday worship was NOT instituted at Pentecost. It is not commanded to be observed in the Bible in recognition of the resurrection - baptism is. Sunday observance by Christians did not come into existence until after the deaths of ALL the apostles. It was brought in by pagan-influenced apostate church fathers.


---jerry6593 on 6/22/15


Steveng:

You said: Now that's a lame excuse. What does "euclidian geoetry" or computers or cars or anything man-made of of this world have anything to do with our relationship with God?

Yes. Nothing. EXACTLY the same as where Peter and Paul died doesn't have anything to do with our relationship with God either. Yet all are matters of fact, nonetheless, and disputing their accuracy because one doesn't consider them important is foolish.
---StrongAxe on 6/21/15


StrongAxe you said "Considering that Jesus died long before Peter ever went to Rome, it's not surprising that Jesus never mentioned it."
Considering He sent the twelve to bring salvation to Israel, and Paul to the Gentiles, no wonder, it's not surprising, there is no biblical record of Peter being in Rome
---michael_e on 6/21/15


Cluny, 2 people can not be the successor of Peter.
Both William and Harry are sons of Prince Charles and possible successor of him to be King. But, William is first.
---Nicole_Lacey on 6/20/15

There are no successors in the Church. Never have been and never will be. David is correct in his understanding of Hebrews. The OLD priesthood was done away IN CHRIST.
Peter was not in Rome. Peter was an apostle to the Jews, the dispersed, the 12 tribes. Paul was the apostle to the Gentiles. Not even in Acts do we see Peter going to Rome. Nor was Paul or any of the apostles in submission to Peter EVER. If you understood 1st and 2 Peter, even Peter never makes such claims of himself.
---kathr4453 on 6/21/15


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michael_e:

You asked: Is there any place in the Bible where Jesus gives any hint or any record of any kind that Peter was ever in Rome?

Considering that Jesus died long before Peter ever went to Rome, it's not surprising that Jesus never mentioned it.
---StrongAxe on 6/21/15


Cluny wrote: "All ancient Christian historians agree that Ss. Peter and Paul died in Rome."

But what does the bible say? Does it really matter where the apostles went to preach? Does it really matter where Peter and Paul dies? What was the reason God chose to kept Moses' burial a secret?

Cluny wrote: "Now, is there any place in the Bible where Jesus gives any hint of Euclidian geometry?"

Now that's a lame excuse. What does "euclidian geoetry" or computers or cars or anything man-made of of this world have anything to do with our relationship with God?
---Steveng on 6/21/15


True Monk Brendon Sunday keeping is a man made construct. The Roman Catholic church does not teach the same thing as the Bible.

Have you been Born Again?

In Exodus 20 the Bible says this.

Exodus 20:4,5

Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth:
Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me,

Why is this not recorded in any Catechism that I know?

On Christ the Solid Rock I stand.
---Samuelbb7 on 6/21/15


\\Cluny, 2 people can not be the successor of Peter. \\

John is the successor of ST. Pater at Antioch.

Francis is the successor of St. Peter at Rome.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 6/21/15


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Learner2 and Nicole,

1. In John chapter 6, verse 63 will explain verses 52 and 53 to you.

2. Jesus (Yeshua) a Jewish Rabbi would have never taught the eating of his real flesh and blood simply because it is against the Torah.

3. When ever the eating of ones flesh and the drinking of blood is mentioned, it is a result of the judgment of God a curse not a blessing see Deuteronomy 28:53, Leviticus 26:29, Genesis 9:2-4, and Acts 15:29. s

4. the mass/eucharist is a continuation of what the Real-true Jesus of the bible all ready completed on the cross see CCC 13:65-67.

5. The Jesus of the bible completed the work at Calvary see John 19:30, Hebrews 9:25-28, 10:10-12, and Romans 6:9-10.
---john9346 on 6/21/15


\\Is there any place in the Bible where Jesus gives any hint or any record of any kind that Peter was ever in Rome?\\

All ancient Christian historians agree that Ss. Peter and Paul died in Rome.

Now, is there any place in the Bible where Jesus gives any hint of Euclidian geometry?

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 6/20/15


Jerry said, "Jesus kept the 7th-day Sabbath - NOT Sunday. He believed in His 2nd advent to earth in the future. So it is more accurate to say that the Seventh-Day Adventist Church is the only Church still here since Jesus' time on earth."

The Church that was instructed at the feet of Jesus was started on Pentecost, 50 days after Jesus rose from the dead. Peter, James, John and so on were the first Bishops of the Church.

Sunday was chosen as the proper day to worship because Jesus rose from the dead on a Sunday. However, even this is a man-made construct, brought about by the various Christian governments from the first Pentecost until today.

Pray for me,
the unworthy monk Brendan
---Monk_Brendan on 6/20/15


Michael, really? Read your question. You ask if there is any thing in the Bible or RECORD of Peter being in Rome?
The 'or' means you will accept anything outside the Bible.
Yes, Peter die in Rome outside. Look it up if you wish.

Steveng, Jesus said his Father isn't a God of the dead but of the living. Then list the leaders of Israel. So, if Jesus wrong or you?

Cluny, 2 people can not be the successor of Peter.
Both William and Harry are sons of Prince Charles and possible successor of him to be King. But, William is first.
---Nicole_Lacey on 6/20/15


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\\Is there any place in the Bible where Jesus gives any hint or any record of any kind that Peter was ever in Rome?
\\

It's right after where Jesus said, "Accept me into your hearts as your personal savior, and I will send you a book that everyone can read and interpret for himself."

Where is the discovery of the Western Hemisphere in the Bible?

Not everything known in the history of the Church is in the Bible. Did you think it was?

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 6/20/15


Nicole Lacy you say
"Don't change Jesus' Words, He doesn't like it." Then you say
"Peter was in Rome when it burned down. He was crucified upside down on his request (position). They even made a movie about it."
Is there any place in the Bible where Jesus gives any hint or any record of any kind that Peter was ever in Rome?
---michael_e on 6/20/15


Nicole_Lacey worte: "...the RCC isn't fussing with anyone."

There is division within the RCC at this very moment when your pope is calling for an "Earth Constitution that would transcent the UN Charter" along with brining together a "Clobal Counsil...elected by all the people on Earth." Francis is going to preach this summer on the need to reduce the world's population, stopping climate warming and having a one world government to rule the world and he's using the pulpit to advance it. Check out his Papal Encyclical.

Nicole_Lacey worte: "She is obeying God.

Allowing member to pray to dead people, statues, and praying repeated prayers is not christian.
---Steveng on 6/19/15


\\I am not a member of either the Orthodox or RCC since they have replaced the Bible as the final authority on all matters with tradition\\

Actually, the Bible puts both as equal.

"Keep the traditions you have been taught, whether by word or our epistle."

"Word" here clearly means spoken, not written in the Bible.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 6/19/15


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People...People...
The Bible clearly says the Priesthood of Jesus Christ was created in the order of Melchizedek (Hebrews 5:6), not in the order Aaron (Hebrews 7:11).

The priesthood of Aaron, the Levite Priesthood, was an order of many priests, whereas the priesthood of Melchizedek was of only one, a High Priest (Genesis 14:18).

With this in mind, what priesthood, are those of you who have many priests in your church, serving?
I can only give you the question, I can not make you accept the Truth.
---David on 6/20/15


Yes, Darlene we are all priests, but not all priests are equal.
Even the Jews had one priest out of all priests as the High Priest.

Samuelbb7, your dispute is with Jesus not the RCC.
The RCC doesn't change Jesus' Words.

Jesus HIMSELF called Peter the Rock which HE will build His Church.

Jesus called Himself the Cornerstone not the rock underneath the Church.

The Cornerstone ties 2 sides together. It can not be the rock underneath a building. Plus, the Head is on top.
Picture that in your head.

Don't change Jesus' Words, He doesn't like it.

The High Priest didn't lose his Authority when He killed Jesus. That's not how God operates.

Please state the killing and torturing? Don't be vague.
---Nicole_Lacey on 6/19/15


Henry,

The bible does not state a believer must join or become a member of the Catholic Church or any other denomination. However, to believe on the LORD Jesus Christ and the believer is already a member of HIS church, belonging to the Body. Search out scripture for answers, prayerfully, trusting the LORD to give the answers. He alone can make truth known, open eyes, ears, hearts, minds and make one receptive to His truth.
Blessings
---Chria9396 on 6/19/15


He was made a little lower then the angels Carla so that as GOD and man he could die to atone for the sins of mankind. An angel or just a man cannot die to atone for the sins of anyone.

But a man who was both GOD and man could die for all our sins.

Hebrews 1:5,6

For unto which of the angels said he at any time, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee? And again, I will be to him a Father, and he shall be to me a Son?
And again, when he bringeth in the firstbegotten into the world, he saith, And let all the angels of God worship him.

On Christ the solid rock I stand.
---Samuelbb7 on 6/19/15


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Christ is not repeat is not THE I AM who spoke to Moses and if he were pray tell me why the scriptures declare that he was made a little lower than the angels????

Heb_2:9 But we see Jesus, who was made a little lower than the angels for the suffering of death, crowned with glory and honour, that he by the grace of God should taste death for every man.

why don't you guys read the bible and not the dogma that is preached in times of old when the scholars were limited in their understanding of perception with authority, I am my father my father is in me... think it not strange that Christ made himself equal to his father, he could and he did, make equal not reincarnate as three feet, one head and two arms ?????
---Carla on 6/19/15


Go to wikipedia.

"The ancient Christian father Cyprian used it to prove the authority of the bishops not merely of the Roman bishop, but of every bishop," referring to Maurice Bevenot's work on St. Cyprian." This was the stand of all the Bishops or Popes except Rome.

I am not a member of either the Orthodox or RCC since they have replaced the Bible as the final authority on all matters with tradition.

The RCC also lost it's authority when it used murder and torture to force people to follow the Pope.

Matthew 16 names peter stone and the church built on giant rock or cornerstone.

2Samuel 22:32
For who is God, save the LORD? and who is a rock, save our God?


Agape
---Samuelbb7 on 6/19/15


Nicole Lacey With all respect for you and your beliefs but I want to share a Bible verse with you. You said there are no Priests in the Denominations I mentioned but this is what the Bible calls all Christians,1st Peter 2:9 But you are a chosen people,a royal priesthood,a holy nation,a people belonging to God,that you may declare the praises of him who called you out of darkness into his wonderful light. God Bless
---Darlene_1 on 6/19/15


\\Cluny, John isn't Peter.\\

The Patriarchs of Antioch are successors of St. Peter, too, Nicole.

The present Orthodox patriarch of Antioch is named John, and he is just as much a successor of St. Peter as is Francis.

In fact, more so.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 6/19/15


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Hi, Henry (c: I think the true church's succession of authority is an obedient succession. There always have been the ones who obey God's word. But they have not necessarily been publicly known, partly because big-name people and groups might keep attention away from the real ones.

One example of how to obey God's word is 1 Timothy 3:1-10. To me, this shows how "a bishop" needs to be a family man who has first learned how to care for his own family in God's caring and sharing way, so now he will know how to rule God's church in our Father's caring and sharing way.

He is proven at home, first, with his wife helping him to become "blameless" the way God's love cures our character. So, she is part of his example.
---Bill on 6/19/15


Rita, please read my note. I can't help it if the non-Catholics speaking to me didn't know about the Protestants in the UK. I guess they need to evangelize more to make themselves known.

Watch the News. ISIS identities Catholics and Orthodox as Christians when they want to kills Christians.
REALLY!

roman Catholicism believes the Eucharist is the real body and blood, soul and divinity of the Lord Jesus Christ.---john9346 on 6/19/15

If you believe in your Bible you would as well. Gospel of John chapter 6.
Are you like the ones in John6:66?
---Nicole_Lacey on 6/19/15


Learner2 ,

1.
roman catholicism believes the Eucharist is the real body and blood, soul and divinity of the Lord Jesus Christ.

2.
The jesus of roman catholicism did not complete the work of salvation on the cross,therefore, the sacrifice is ongoing performed at every mass.
The Jesus of the Bible declared his work of atonement to be completed on the cross: It is Finished! (John 19:30).

John, why do you think that Jesus is not really present in the Eucharist? This was universally believed until Reformation.

If you studied Catholicism more carefully, you would learn that the mass is a reenactment rather than a continuation of Christ's work on the cross.
---learner2 on 6/19/15


Learner2 and nicole,

1.
roman catholicism believes the Eucharist is the real body and blood, soul and divinity of the Lord Jesus Christ.

2.
The jesus of roman catholicism did not complete the work of salvation on the cross,therefore, the sacrifice is ongoing performed at every mass.
The Jesus of the Bible declared his work of atonement to be completed on the cross: It is Finished! (John 19:30).

3. Pope Honorius I spoke ex cathedra and he was wrong about Jesus only having 1 will. In addition, the popes were wrong for the condemnation of Galileo.


---john9346 on 6/19/15


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Samuelbb7* until 1054 the Orthodox and the RCC were one church. .

If true, then why are you not RCC or Orthodox?

Samuelbb7* The other Popes told the Roman Pope to stop making that claim.

Jesus gave the Keys to only one Pope and the another popes have no say so!!

Samuelbb7 *Until 1054 the other Popes continued to resist the outrageous claims of the Romans Pontiffs who were usurping the authority of the whole church.

Do you have names of the other Popes??

Samuelbb7* The Church is founded on JESUS and the apostles.


Yes, But Jesus himself said " he will built his church on the Rock of Peter and gave Peter and only Peter the keys (Mt 16 :16-18)
---Ruben on 6/19/15


Nicole - "Even today many non Catholics only think Christians are Catholics or Orthodox. They do not even think about Protestants until they come to America". Really?? In the UK 'some' towns have a R.C. Church but MOST towns also have an Anglican (or two) Methodist, Baptist, Congregational, Presbyterian, Pentecostal, Independent, Salvation Army, Gospel Halls/ Missions etc. ALL these churches believe themselves to be Christian churches. The Roman Catholic church is the newest in the town. I watched it being built as I walked home from school age 15

ALL the ones I list above can be found in the town where I was born - population 16,000 people. The Methodists used to have 5 churches in that town (but now down to 3).
---Rita_H on 6/19/15


Cluny, John isn't Peter.
Jesus told Peter to feed and tend His sheep not John.
Plus Peter has the keys not John.

Steveng, the RCC isn't fussing with anyone. She is obeying God. People who LEFT the RCC who are bickering and fighting among themselves. Remember I am part of the sheep not the Shepherd.

Ask yourself why the rebellion among yourselves?

I am at peace.
---Nicole_Lacey on 6/19/15


\\4. Above all, roman catholicism believes in a different jesus then the Jesus of Holy Scripture (the bible).\\

The Bible teaches that Jesus is true God and true Man in one Person.

The Roman Catholic Church along with Orthodoxy, the non-Chalcedonian Eastern Churches, and historical confessional Protestantism, believe this, too.

How, therefore, is the Jesus believed in by the Roman Catholic Church not the one of the Bible?

Please explain.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 6/19/15


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//Peter was in Rome when it burned down. He was crucified upside down on his request (position). They even made a movie about it.//
"THEY" make all sorts of movies. Do "WE" believe all movies are based on fact?
The question was, Is there any place in the Bible where there is any hint or any record of any kind that Peter was ever in Rome?
---michael_e on 6/19/15


Get out from any man-made denominational churches. Satan has had over two thousand years to divide christiandom up into over sixty thousand different denominations worldwide denominations each having their own rituals, traditions, ways of living and interpretations of the bible. Is Christ divided? . The true church of God ARE the christians, not a denomination or a building. Gods true Church has no earthly wealth, no huge bureaucracy, no billions tied up in real estate, investments, and bank accounts and no money to maintain these assets.

Most christians bicker about what denomination they belong. 1 Corinthians 1:11-13

Christianity is a lifestyle.
---Steveng on 6/18/15


John, how is the Catholic Jesus different?
---learner2 on 6/18/15


Michael, Peter was in Rome when it burned down. He was crucified upside down on his request (position). They even made a movie about it.

John, who said the Catholic Church was infallible?
Protestants only.
CCC states the Pope is infallible ONLY in Faith and Morals when announced ahead.

You all run with lies and then have the nerve to claim Catholic started the lie.

Please explain the 2 Jesus you came up with.
Another error and you are trying to pin it on the RCC.
I worship the Jesus from the Bible compiled by the Catholic Church. The same Bible Martin Luther had when you removed the books from the OT.
He was a Roman Catholic Priest with 73 book Bible
---Nicole_Lacey on 6/18/15


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Is there any place in the Bible where there is any hint or any record of any kind that Peter was ever in Rome?
---michael_e on 6/18/15


There are multiple reasons to not become roman catholic, 4 are crucial.


1. the catholic church is not infallible.

2. Historically catholicism is not true based on dogmas.

3. catholicism has an authority that is not the bible.

4. Above all, roman catholicism believes in a different jesus then the Jesus of Holy Scripture (the bible).
---john9346 on 6/18/15


\\But, Cluny knows that there is a break from Peter.
ONLY the RCC can connect from Peter to Pope Francis.\\

But the Orthodox can connect from Peter to Patriarch John of Antioch.

We never had a break from Peter.

Peter was in Antioch before he went to Rome.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 6/18/15


Nicole....Who is King James?
---KarenD on 6/18/15


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Nicole until 1054 the Orthodox and the RCC were one church. The Scholars who established the Canon were from the entire church.

The other Popes told the Roman Pope to stop making that claim. In 403AD that the claim was made to represent only the RCC pope and not all equally.

Until 1054 the other Popes continued to resist the outrageous claims of the Romans Pontiffs who were usurping the authority of the whole church.

The Church is founded on JESUS and the apostles.

Eph 2:19-21

Now therefore ye are no more strangers and foreigners, but fellowcitizens with the saints, and of the household of God, And are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner stone:
---Samuelbb7 on 6/18/15


No offence taken, Darlene. I agreed with Cluny with the Priesthood which is NEEDED to have a Church. But, Cluny knows that there is a break from Peter.
ONLY the RCC can connect from Peter to Pope Francis.

Pentecostal and Quakers do not have Priests.
They have not followed Jesus' command given on the Last Supper.

The Holy Spirit or Ghost were on the first Apostles of the RCC. Remember Peter was in the room and Jesus told him to feed and tend His Church.

Before 1054, if you were Christian you were Catholics.
interchangeable words.

Even today many non Catholics only think Christians are Catholics or Orthodox. They do not even think about Protestants until they come to America
---Nicole_Lacey on 6/18/15


Nicole Lacey no offence intended but the RCC isn't the only church that came from the Apostles,as Cluny said the Orthodox. I will add the church which is the closest to what the Apostles practiced after Jesus died and after Acts 2 when the Baptism of the Holy Ghost began has been the Pentecostal Church. There were also others who had Acts 2 type religion but I don't remember the names. Some of the Quakers do now and I think it was the Shakers also who do. God Bless
---Darlene_1 on 6/18/15


Nicole when the Church put together the Bible. There was only one church. That church latter split...in 1054. ---Samuelbb7

You just answered yourself.
ONE CHURCH THE RCC.
Cannon of the Bible was compiled in the 5th century.
1054 is 5th centuries later.

Cluny, AMEN! Yes, you can. You still have a VALID Priesthood.

This is not historically accurate. There is no record of the Catholic Church in Scripture. It was established centuries later.---jerry6593 on 6/18/15

Matthew 13, I believe is when Jesus gave Peter the Keys.
And the end of Gospel of John when He made Peter to promise to feed and tend His (Jesus)sheep.

We are the sheep.
Who do you think Jesus is calling sheep? THE CHURCH!
---Nicole_Lacey on 6/18/15


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Nicole when the Church put together the Bible. There was only one church. That church latter split in two called the Great Schism in 1054. Look it up. The church split into the Roman Catholic church and the Orthodox church.

They together set the Canon of scripture. It is a lie that the RCC did it. Look up the Great Schism. Read even early when there were different popes and they were all equal.

Agape
---Samuelbb7 on 6/18/15


\\But lastly, the Roman Catholic is the only Church still here since Jesus' time on earth.\\

Orthodox can and do say the same thing, Nicole.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 6/18/15


Nicole: "Jesus started the Catholic Church not the Bible before going to Heaven."

This is not historically accurate. There is no record of the Catholic Church in Scripture. It was established centuries later.


"the Roman Catholic is the only Church still here since Jesus' time on earth."

Jesus kept the 7th-day Sabbath - NOT Sunday. He believed in His 2nd advent to earth in the future. So it is more accurate to say that the Seventh-Day Adventist Church is the only Church still here since Jesus' time on earth.


---jerry6593 on 6/18/15


Jesus started the Catholic Church not the Bible before going to Heaven.

So to make the decision to be a RC could not be a factor from the Bible for the first 400 years.

The Catholic Church put the Bible together (Cannon of Books) base off the Church.

So that's like saying the parent's last name is Smith because their son's sir name is Smith.
No, their son's sir name is Smith because of his parents.

But lastly, the Roman Catholic is the only Church still here since Jesus' time on earth.
And we don't change our beliefs just because cultures are changing or the people demand it.
Jesus is the same yesterday, today and tomorrow as His Bride the Roman Catholic Church.

Come home, we are waiting for you.
---Nicole_Lacey on 6/17/15


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Hi, Henry (c: God bless you (c: Jesus is the Lord of all, and Jesus died for our sins and rose again on the third day. And a person needs to trust in Jesus for salvation.

And in the Bible you can read all the Bible says about how to love.

Jesus says, "'Come to Me, all you who labor and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest.'" (Matthew 11:29)

So, with Jesus we learn how He means His word, the love meaning. It is not only about what things to do in religious activities and what beliefs to have.

So, trust in Jesus for salvation and discover how He cares for you and teaches you in peace with "rest for your souls." And enjoy discovering people who help you in this.
---Bill on 6/17/15


For the same reason anybody joins anything -- because they believe in it and their conscience tells them it's the right thing to do.
---learner2 on 6/17/15


Jesus said in John 6 "Very truly I tell you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you have no life in you. 54 Whoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life, and I will raise them up at the last day. 55 For my flesh is real food and my blood is real drink."

This does not mean read your Bible. It is the clear unambiguous Word of the Lord.

Reason Enough!

Pray for me,
the unworthy monk Brendan
---Monk_Brendan on 6/17/15


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