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Can Women Preach

Is it biblical for women to preach? Not teach, but preach in the sanctuary/church?

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I really want to ask each one on this topic who is in favor of women preachers to please read 1 Timothy 2:11-15 and 3:1-15 and listen closely to the instructions and commandments.

We will always do better to allow the Scriptures to interpret themselves instead of reading ones own opinion and then interpreting...

May Yahweh guide each one in to his truth and freedom,

John
---john9346 on 7/1/15


Darlene,

1. When using Greek Meanings it is important to understand the context by which the word meant.

2. The word you cited in context does not take away from what Paul is saying.

3. Take a look at verse 2 he becomes more specific "A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one wife, vigilant, sober, of good behaviour, given to hospitality, apt to teach,"
How can a woman be the husband of 1 wife?
Also see verses 11 and 12...

4. Have you not read 1 Timothy 2:13-15 where Paul gives you the reason for this Church Order.

5. Keeping silent in 1 Corinthians 14 is dealing with order in Spiritual Gifts relating to men and women
Acts 2:17-18 is Spirit Gifts not a woman preaching.
---john9346 on 6/30/15


John9346 God empowers women to preach through the Baptism of the Holy Ghost. In 1 Timothy 3 where it says If a man desire-,man means in Strong's G1536 whoever,if any,whether any,he that,man('s thing from any,ought). Where it says he,below that means G1249 a Christian teacher and pastor(technically a deacon or deaconess). The translation Man was chosen based on the age it was translated when women were no more than property. The keep silent verse to women was actually only to husbands and wives. The husband is the only head/authority of wife,not all men over all women. The keep silent and teaching was about wife asking or talking to husband at home not during service. God Bless
---Darlene_1 on 6/30/15


I found no Scriptural instructions to specifically confess sin to any church leader. aservant

Agreed. But our sin against Bob is also a sin against GOD. For all sins are also against GOD.

Psalms 119:11
Thy word have I hid in mine heart, that I might not sin against thee.

Deuteronomy 15:9
Beware that there be not a thought in thy wicked heart, saying, The seventh year, the year of release, is at hand, and thine eye be evil against thy poor brother, and thou givest him nought, and he cry unto the LORD against thee, and it be sin unto thee.

Agape
---Samuelbb7 on 6/30/15


"Can women Preach? Yes not only can they but God gives them the same sermons He gives the men preachers if they have sought God's will and leading for what is preached."

Darlene, I must ask you by which authority do you look to to believe this?

Have you not read 1 Timothy 2:11-15 and 3:1-15?
---john9346 on 6/29/15




I have not read where Priests can forgive sins? Are only the sins confessed to priests on earth forgiven?
---Samuelbb7 on 6/28/15


There are sins against God re God, and sins against God re man.

One does not normally confess Arnold's sin to Bob. Arnold needs to confess his own sin against Bob so Bob can guage the sincerity of his contriteness. One needs to confess his sin against God. You should face God just as you would face Bob.

I found no Scriptural instructions to specifically confess sin to any church leader.
---aservant on 6/29/15


Can women Preach? Yes not only can they but God gives them the same sermons He gives the men preachers if they have sought God's will and leading for what is preached. We all have the call to go and tell,tell what,God's Word,the Gospel of Jesus Christ. I was disappointed when a preacher would use a canned sermon because I knew how God gives the sermon and then all that has to be done is get the scriptures that pertain to the message. There is no male or female to God,all He wants is an obedient vessel. God Bless
---Darlene_1 on 6/29/15


So Nicole only the Catholic priests can forgive sins.---Samuelbb7 on 6/29/15

No, Orthodox Priests because they don't have a break from the Priesthood linking BACK to JESUS'S BREATH OF THE HOLY SPIRIT in John 20:22-23.

Again, The BIBLE is where we are giving you this information.
Jesus didn't breath on everyone when He rose from the dead until his Ascension.

Do you think Jesus FORGOT THE LADIES?
---Nicole on 6/29/15


In the Old Testament the priests carried the blood of Sacrifice into the Temple. The prayers of the people went up to GOD alone.

Praying to GOD is part of worship.

We can ask someone to pray for us. To get down on our knees and worship and pray to anyone but GOD is wrong. Even if it is called a lessor worship.

Exodus 20:4,5

Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth:

Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me,
---Samuelbb7 on 6/29/15


Hebrews 7:25 Wherefore he is able to save them to the uttermost that come unto God by Him,he ever lives to make intercession for them. Romans 8:34 Christ Jesus who died-more than that,who was raised to life-is at the right hand of God and is also interceding for us. God Bless
---Darlene_1 on 6/29/15




Where in the Bible does it say to confess your sins to Jesus alone and get forgiven? BCV, please.
---Cluny on 6/27/15


It doesn't specify. God hears every confession, whether to Him, or to a person.

Jas 5:16 confess to another is quite unspecific.
Mt 3:6 And were baptized of him in Jordan, confessing their sins.
1Jn 1:9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
---aservant on 6/29/15


Forgiveness is in the Old Testament.

So Nicole only the Catholic priests can forgive sins. Which means all non roman Catholics are guilty of their sins and will burn in hell for all eternity. Even though the Loved GOD and loved their neighbor? One of the Popes said that was false.

The Holy Spirit fell on all in the upper room, including women. Acts 1:14,15.

Phillip's four daughters were filled with the Holy Spirit and were Prophetesses.

Peter, James and John are mostly mentioned together. James and Paul both took charge on occasion. Galatians Jerusalem Council that one is James the brother of Jesus.

The Bible is the final authority not men. When men teach against the Bible they're wrong.
---Samuelbb7 on 6/29/15


\\There are examples to the contrary (e.g. the Pharisee and the Publican).
---StrongAxe on 6/28/15\\

Of course, this was before the Crucifixion, Resurrection, Ascension, and Pentecost, right?

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 6/28/15


Good point Strongaxe about Peter was given the mind knowledge by the Holy Spirit.

I will ask you then why did the Holy Spirit singled out Peter as Jesus had many times in the Gospels?

That should tell you that Peter is head of all the brothers.
Even Jesus told him, after Peter is weak he will be made strong to do what?
STRENGTH HIS BROTHERS.

Samuel, John 20:22-23 has NOT disappeared from you Bible.
Read it, Study it and Believe it.

Jesus didn't blow on Mary of Magdala and she was the FIRST one to see Him. In fact Jesus told her to get HIS brothers to Him so HE could breath the HOLY SPIRIT on them.
BELIEVE!
---Nicole_Lacey on 6/28/15


Hi Rod,

1. "Those verses say nothing about "preaching in a sanctuary/church/building."
Have you not read 1 Timothy 3:1-15 verse 15 explains the preceeding, "15 But if I tarry long, that thou mayest know how thou oughtest to behave thyself in the house of God, which is the church of the living God, the pillar and ground of the truth."

Also verse 5

(For if a man know not how to rule his own house, how shall he take care of the church of God?)

2. To correct you, I am exegetical and I want to ask you to be the same...

3. In exegesis, you will find that Paul is writing to Timothy who is the pastor of the Church of Ephesus.

This is why Timothy is referred to as a Pastoral Epistle.
---john9346 on 6/28/15


Here is the verse which verifies that Jesus is the only intercessor/mediator between God and man. 1 Timothy 2:5 For there is one God and one mediator between God and man,the man Christ Jesus. God Bless
---Darlene_1 on 6/28/15


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Samuelbb7:

You asked: I have not read where Priests can forgive sins?

Matthew 16:18-19:
18 And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church, and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.
19 And I will give unto thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.

This would presumably confer the authority to forgive sins, and the authority to transfer the same authority to his successors.

Are only the sins confessed to priests on earth forgiven?

There are examples to the contrary (e.g. the Pharisee and the Publican).
---StrongAxe on 6/28/15


\\I have not read where Priests can forgive sins\\

Do you know where there is the passage in James: "Is there any among you sick? Let him call for the elders (Greek: Presbyteroi, whence English word "priest" through the Middle English form "prester") of the church....."

I won't quote the entire passage here, but in it healing is connected with both anointing AND auricular confession in the context.

I've answered your question. Are you doing to answer mine?

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 6/28/15


Yes Nicole I can be forgetful. But there can also be posts that are not on when I add posts. Cluny answered by question but it was not on when I posted it.
If my history is incorrect then show me where.


Thank you Cluny for the information about confession to priests.

Darlene posted an answer already.

Mar 2:7,10
Why doth this man thus speak blasphemies? who can forgive sins but God only?

But that ye may know that the Son of man hath power on earth to forgive sins, (he saith to the sick of the palsy,)

I have not read where Priests can forgive sins? Are only the sins confessed to priests on earth forgiven?

Agape
---Samuelbb7 on 6/28/15


Nicole_Lacey:

You said: Nope, reading minds wasn't included

Ananias and Sapphira (Acts 5:1-11) claimed to sell all they had but brought only part of the proceeds in to the church. Peter called them out on it, and they both died. The Holy Spirit revealed it to him. Even though this is not technically "reading minds", the Word of Knowledge is close enough in this context, and that IS mentioned as one of the gifts of the Spirit.
---StrongAxe on 6/28/15


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Yes Darlene, when I mean all I am assuming we are just speaking of Christians.

Samuel, I accused of lying on the RCC when you asked Cluny if his Church believed in .."the priesthood for all believers because the RCC doesn't"
You can't know the RCC's History if you can't remember your own history of postings within the last couple of days.
So you think I can trust you with 2000 years of the RCC?

Please answer Cluny's question. Because Jesus did instruct the Apostles to forgive or NOT forgive sins.
Which can only occur during confess since Jesus didn't give the capability to read read minds as He could.
Since He gave them the power to heal, forgive sins, and rise the dead.
Nope, reading minds wasn't included.
---Nicole_Lacey on 6/27/15


\\I go to Jesus directly. As many Catholics do so today also. But that is not the way it was set up by the RCC. \\

Actually, auricular confession is used by ALL the pre-reformation churches, including those that had nothing to do with Rome.

Where in the Bible does it say to confess your sins to Jesus alone and get forgiven? BCV, please.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 6/27/15


Part 2, section 2, chapter 1, article 1, of the Catechism of the Catholic Church teaches that all baptized persons participate in the priesthood of all believers.
---learner2 on 6/26/15


Nicole Lacey with due respect to you and your view but I must tell you that not all are Prophets and Kings,but agreed all of those who accept Jesus as Lord are priests. Jesus is the only intercessor between God and Man. The Holy Ghost will intercede for us if we don't know how to pray,but he intercedes to Jesus not God since he is acting as us,then Jesus intercedes to God. God Bless
---Darlene_1 on 6/26/15


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RCC news site.

"The priest gives him the absolution:

God, the Father of mercies, through the death and resurrection of his Son has reconciled the world to himself and sent the Holy Spirit among us for the forgiveness of sins, through the ministry of the Church, may God give you pardon and peace, and I absolve you from your sins in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit."

In RCC confession is to be made through the priest up to the Pope the Vicar of Christ and then to GOD. Read your church history.

I go to Jesus directly. As many Catholics do so today also. But that is not the way it was set up by the RCC.

So I'm not lying. I just know the History of the RCC.

Agape
---Samuelbb7 on 6/27/15


\\Cluny does the Orthodox church teach the priesthood of all believers? The RCC does not.
\\

Please go back and read what I said, Samuel.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 6/26/15


There you go again Samuel lying on the RCC. Lying is a mortal sin.
Again, everyone is PRIEST, PROPHET AND KING.

I said it 3 times. What part of the word Priest doesn't mean Priest to you?

Why don't you talk about your OWN beliefs instead other people's beliefs since you don't have a CLUE.

I speak of my beliefs.
Have I ever said anything about your belief systems?
NO.
Can you do the same, Please?
STOP JUDGING.
---Nicole_Lacey on 6/26/15


Cluny does the Orthodox church teach the priesthood of all believers? The RCC does not.

The priesthood of believers also means we can go to Jesus directly without any intermediaries and through Jesus to GOD the Father.

We can ask others to do the same thing.

Heb 4:15,16
For we have not an high priest which cannot be touched with the feeling of our infirmities, but was in all points tempted like as we are, yet without sin.

Let us therefore come boldly unto the throne of grace, that we may obtain mercy, and find grace to help in time of need.

Agape
---Samuelbb7 on 6/26/15


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In the Orthodox Church, the priest is ordained for the priestly people of God, by the Bishop, the chief priest of his diocese, all under Our Savior, the Great High Priest.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 6/26/15


Nicole you missed where all believers are priests.

Women are used by the Holy Spirit all the time...You have to have the Holy Spirit to be used. I understand why women are not Shepherd Priests. But the RCC has a long History of putting women down.---Samuelbb7 on 6/26/15

No, read the post to Darlene. I said we are priests. All are Prophet, Priest and King.

But, even the Jewish people had different degrees of priests.
High priest.

You are WRONG about the RCC putting down women. You just don't understand.

The RCC BLAME the fall of man to Adam not Eve.
Jesus is the new Adam.
That is why only MEN can Priests because Eve a woman didn't cause the fall.
God put ADAM IN CHARGE NOT EVE.
---Nicole_Lacey on 6/26/15


//...did you read those Scriptures?//

John...thanks for your respect and the same to you. However, did you read my statements and did you read those scriptures? It appears that you are being anachronistic and eisegesistic, and that is, visualizing a present day "preacher" on a platform in a building/sanctuary/church. Those verses say nothing about "preaching in a sanctuary/church/building."

Paul in Timothy (not the verses that you referred to) does mention that he, Paul, was a preacher and teacher, however, he did not say that he did that in a sanctuary/church/building.

Blessings to you as you search the scriptures and a Life in Yeshua.
---Rod4Him on 6/26/15


thank you for the correction aservent. My Tanak does not include the commentaries. And most I have talked to have said the same thing.

Nicole you missed where all believers are priests.

Women are used by the Holy Spirit all the time.

Act 21:9
And the same man had four daughters, virgins, which did prophesy.

You have to have the Holy Spirit to be used. I understand why women are not Shepherd Priests. But the RCC has a long History of putting women down.

Have you ever heard the legend of Pope Joan. It has a fair amount of evidence for it.

Agape
---Samuelbb7 on 6/26/15


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Rod:

With all do respect to you sir, did you read those Scriptures????
---john9346 on 6/25/15


Darlene, I believe that it was a Catholic Church.
About 20 years ago a Bishop ordain 2 men and 2 women without the Vatican approval.
But, the Vatican declared the 2 men as priests, but not the women.
IT IS IMPOSSIBLE for a woman to be ordain.
The Holy Spirit did not respond to the women.

It's just like when Jacob stole Esau's birth right.
Esau begged his father to Bless him, but his father had to explain the blessing was given and can not be undone.

The Holy Spirit doesn't obey every single action of men.
Only the ones approved by God.

So, the women played, acted as priests, but were not.

Like a pregnant man. The 2 don't go together.
---Nicole_Lacey on 6/25/15


Nicole Lacey sorry dear but it was the Catholic Church. I found it in something which was like Catholic Women for Woman's Priesthood,sure names not correct but similar,anyway part of it was telling about women who had acted in the office of a Priest ,they lived Centuries ago. God Bless
---Darlene_1 on 6/25/15


So it does not include Scholars comments.

---Samuelbb7 on 6/25/15


- Wikipedia -

Torah: It has a range of meanings. It can most specifically mean the first five books of the twenty-four books of the Tanakh, and it usually includes the rabbinic commentaries.
---aservant on 6/25/15


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Spiritual priests (my terminology) are men and women who make Spiritual sacrifices and offerings to God. A Spiritual sacrifice is not destroyed or consumed as it was in OT worship. For example, if one were successful in Spiritual Warfare (expelling a demon from a human), that victory could be offered to God in prayer as a Spiritual sacrifice. Cutting the grass of a widow in Jesus' name could be offered to God in prayer.


In the Bible, priests make sacrifices and offerings to God. Priests do not preach. Prophets do not preach. Apostles, Evangelists, Pastors (Bishops, Elders, and deacons), and Teachers may preach. Preach = sermons based on the Bible.
---aservant on 6/25/15


//Man and women = the Spiritual priests//??
Exodus 19:6 And ye shall be unto me a kingdom of priests, and an holy nation. These are the words which thou shalt speak unto the children of ISRAEL.
Gal 2:9 And when James, Cephas, and John, who seemed to be pillars, perceived the grace that was given unto me, they gave to me and Barnabas the right hands of fellowship, that we should go unto the heathen, and they unto the circumcision (Israel).
1Pet 2:5 ... a spiritual house, an holy priesthood,
1Pet 2:9 But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people..
---michael_e on 6/25/15


John,
Those verses say nothing about a person "preaching" in a sanctuary/church.
---Rod4Him on 6/24/15


Paul wrote letters to the churches. Churches have a bishop or preacher. What would there be churches without a preacher?
---shira4368 on 6/25/15


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Prophets or Prophetesses who teach or preach falsely are not from GOD. But true Prophetesses are lied about and false stories are told about them. They are hated for telling the truth.

To Prophesy and preach are about the same thing.

Act 2:17
And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams:

A Woman gets up in church and delivers a message from GOD. Most would call it preaching.

All believers are priests in one way. We can all intercede for others. But should they be Pastors or Priests in charge of a church is a different question. agape
---Samuelbb7 on 6/25/15


1Pet 2:5 Ye also, as lively stones, are built up a spiritual house, an holy priesthood, to offer up spiritual sacrifices, acceptable to God by Jesus Christ (our High Priest).

1Pet 2:9 But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people, that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness . . .

Man and women = the Spiritual priests who must make offerings to God, not preach.
---aservant on 6/24/15


Darlene you are correct when saying there were women priests but not in the Catholic Church.

The Holy Spirit only ordain men.
Bishops have claimed to ordain women through the centuries.
But the Church doesn't pay attention to the women because it is NOT POSSIBLE!
Pretend at the ER a man and a woman enters screaming each saying they in labor. Both claiming to be 9 months pregnant.
What will the Doctor do?
Take the woman to Labor and Delivery ward.
But the man is going the the mental ward.

The same with us. It is impossible for a lady to be a priest.
Man will have babies first.
---Nicole_Lacey on 6/24/15


So I am correct when I said women can preach, but not a priest. Because to be a Prophet you have to tell the people the MESSAGE given to you from

God.


Miriam praised, not preach - Ex 15

Huldah reported to the king's emissary, not preach - 2Kg 22.

Noadiah reported to Tobiah and Sanballat, not preach - Neh 6.

Deborah reported to Barak, not preach - Jg 4
Deborah praised, not preach - Jg 5

Unnamed prophetess (Isaiah's wife) was wife of prophet, not preach - Is 8

Anna praised, not preach - Lk 2
---aservant on 6/24/15


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Rod, you asked, "Where is it Biblical for a "man" to "preach in a sanctuary/church?"

See 1 Timothy 2:11-15 and 1 Timothy 3:1-15.
---john9346 on 6/24/15


Not all wives of Prophets were Prophetesses . . . Wives of prophets were often called prophetess because of who they married, but had no prophetic capability.

. . . Mouthpiece of GOD is similar to being a preacher . . .
---Samuelbb7 on 6/24/15

Preach - to exhort, to deliver sermons based on SCRIPTURE

Prophecy - divine foretelling delivered by anointed, sanctified male or female - will ALWAYS come to pass

Prophesy - foretelling (may or may not be devine) delivered most often by females (failed prophesies are not devine)

Prophecy and prophesy are not about preaching
---aservant on 6/24/15


. . . preaching should be done by all . . . Not true.
---micha9344 on 6/23/15

Act 1:8 . . . after that the Holy Ghost is come upon you: and ye shall be witnesses . . . unto the uttermost part of the earth.

If we need the Holy Ghost to be witnesses (telling others what Jesus has done for us - something we know well), how much more do we need Holy Ghost to be preachers?

A big problem today, many who think they are Christian (but lack the Spirit residing within) are preaching lies - Mk 7:7, because they don't have the Spirit to teach them the Truth - Jn 14:26, 1Jn 2:27.
---aservant on 6/24/15


Nicole Lacey Just some information for you,in the early Catholic Church there were Nuns who acted as Priests and there is at least one that has she was a Priest on her tombstone. Of course the men Of the Catholic Leadership didn't like a woman in that position so they stopped it. If you put Female Priests in search you may find something,I don't know. With respect to all who don't think female Prophets foretell the future you are sadly mistaken. We are all priests in the New Testament Christians. The Holy Ghost will enable a woman just as easily as a man to foretell,prophesy. Galatians 3:28 There is neither male or female with God,free or slave,Jew or Greek. God Bless
---Darlene_1 on 6/24/15


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No, no, no! Aservant, Read the Gospel please. Luke named Anna a Prophetess.

Scroll down to see 1Cor 14:34-35.---aservant on 6/23/15

Paul's words does not override any PART of the Gospel.

Please stop running to Paul to disobey Jesus.

But, NO WHERE IS THERE A WOMAN PRIEST.

So I am correct when I said women can preach, but not a priest. Because to be a Prophet you have to tell the people the MESSAGE given to you from God.

What is the point of being a Prophet and not pass on the message.
Remember God told all Prophets if they do not pass His Words they will be punished by Him.
---Nicole_Lacey on 6/24/15


Women can't be Priests, but they can preach. Not true. NO Bible prophetess preached. Scroll down to see 1Cor 14:34-35.

---Nicole_Lacey on 6/23/15
---aservant on 6/23/15


Where is it Biblical for a "man" to "preach in a sanctuary/church?"

It's a tradition...
---Rod4Him on 6/24/15


Not all wives of Prophets were Prophetesses. That definitions is false.

Secondly to be the Mouthpiece of GOD is similar to being a preacher. You get up and tell the truth to people. You tell them what GOD wants them to be doing and not doing. You reprimand and speak to them so they will live in love and turn from evil. They do not oversee a church is the difference.

Act 21:8-10
And the next day we that were of Paul's company departed, and came unto Caesarea: and we entered into the house of Philip the evangelist, which was one of the seven, and abode with him.
And the same man had four daughters, virgins, which did prophesy.
And as we tarried there many days, there came down from Judaea a certain prophet, named Agabus.
---Samuelbb7 on 6/24/15


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Anna in the Gospel of Luke was a Prophetess which means she preached God's Words. Not true.

Prophetess = a woman who is God's "mouthpiece"
= a woman who foretells
= a woman who is sings/speaks praises to God
= a wife of a prophet.

After her husband's death, Anna dedicated her life to fasting and prayer. She is identified as a prophetess (praiser).

Ex 15:20 Miriam the prophetess . . . (praiser)
Jg 4:4 Deborah, a prophetess . . . ("Mouthpiece" - repeats what God says)
2Kg 22:14 . . . Huldah the prophetess . . . ("Mouthpiece")
Neh 6:14 . . . prophetess Noadiah . . . (false "Mouthpiece")
---aservant on 6/23/15


Samuel was married.

1Samuel 8:1
And it came to pass, when Samuel was old, that he made his sons judges over Israel.

Good points being brought up. Thank you.
---Samuelbb7 on 6/23/15


Darlene: Judges theme after Joshua (Nun's SON) died, says the nation Israel constantly did evil before the Lord. Generally speaking, the nation Israel is male & female. But, when referring to them prior to Judges it speaks specifically to the male (SONS). Leadership responsibility was theirs, but they rejected it. God, being very angry against "them", gave the entire nation Israel over to be ruled by pagan nations.

Deborah: Willingly listened to & obeyed God. He "authorized" her to speak for Him to rebellious Israel. Yet His plan, since A & E, has always been MALE LEADERSHIP.

Barak: Tasked to "lead" his "tribesMEN" into battle against the overwhelming oppressor army...
---Leon on 6/23/15


Darlene, you're stuck on the "willing."
Maybe I missed a category.
If they were willing, able, and available, what you're saying is they weren't qualified.
That is fine with me. Even though, according to you, scripture doesn't present that either.
I believe we both agree that qualified men weren't there to fulfill this role. This would also include Deborah's husband, Lapidoth.
Whether it was because of not being there, or being there in an unwilling or unqualified capacity is open.
Where we may disagree is I believe that a qualified, willing, available, and able man would have been chosen had there been one.
But, this is getting into that "what-if" category that I prefer not to be.
Scripture stands.
---micha9344 on 6/23/15


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Anna in the Gospel of Luke was a Prophetess which means she preached God's Words.

Women can't be Priests, but they can preach.
The 2 are not the same.
---Nicole_Lacey on 6/23/15


Micha9344 The people didn't cease from being willing to serve God as Judges they ceased being bodily in the town and farms. Jabin was a tyrant that ruled over them but what brought tyranny on them was the fact they were idol worshipers and quit God completely. No I'm sorry but given the fact that there weren't any Godly men due to Idol worship it isn't because they just weren't willing to be a judge. God chose the best person for the job and it was Deborah. God Bless
---Darlene_1 on 6/23/15


Jdg 5:7 The inhabitants of the villages ceased, they ceased in Israel, until that I Deborah arose, that I arose a mother in Israel.
-The "ceased" verse implies unavailability or inability(as in death or captivity) or unwillingness(as in fear, lack of heart).
Deborah arose to be a judge in Israel. Her position as wife or prophet has no becoming on her being a judge, though they are mentioned.
Lot was a judge and married but not a prophet. Samuel was a judge and prophet, but not married.
Samson was neither at first.
Her being a judge was because there was a need and no one else was there to do it.
God, or course, had this all figured out long before.
Have you ever wondered why Barak is named in Heb 11, but not her?
---micha9344 on 6/23/15


There isn't anything in the Bible that tells why Deborah was picked as a Judge. If anyone knows a Verse in the Bible that does please share. No disrespect meant but to the contrary of the reason given by Micha 9344 that no men were willing to do it is the fact that Deborah was already a Prophet and woman who loved and obeyed God. Judges were given different sizes of groups to judge some only 10 people but she was Judge of many and someone the people went to for answers to their problems. She was in a very sinful area but stayed true to God. There seems to be many good reasons that God choose her to Judge. Deborah was also the only Judge who was also a Prophet. God Bless
---Darlene_1 on 6/23/15


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/So, men need to be proven in their own homes, first.\-Bill on 6/23/15
I agree with your post Bill.
Some do confuse preaching and pastoring.
Preaching, in most contexts, just has the connotation of declaring, i.e. declaring the Gospel.
Pastoring, on the other hand, has the view of shepherding a flock.
As far as the blog goes, preaching should be done by all, pastoring is a different matter.
And my previous post may have confused the two as well.
---micha9344 on 6/23/15


Micha, about men not receiving God's "call" . . . Jesus called His disciples, "that they might be with Him and that He might send them out to preach" (in Mark 3:14). So, the true calling is not only to "preach", but first to be with Jesus . . . so we can get to know Him, so we can represent Him right and be an example of how He has been loving with us.

And Paul says a man needs what he presents in 1 Timothy 3:1-10, so he is qualified to "take care of the church of God" > he needs to grow up in his own marriage with their own children, first, so we see if he knows how to rule people in our Father's family caring and sharing way.

So, men need to be proven in their own homes, first.
---Bill on 6/23/15


The title of the blog and the blog question seem a little off.
If the question is "Can women preach?", the answer is: Yes, women have the ability to preach.
If the question is "May women preach?", the answer is: The authority has been given to all of Jesus' disciples to preach, teach, and baptize.
The underlying note, however, is: Just as Deborah was a judge because no men were willing, able, or available to step up to the plate, so to may it be elsewhere.
I believe it to be a shame to have men in a congregation unwilling to receive God's call in their life.
It is Barak that is mentioned in Heb 11, not because of his delay in God's calling, but because of God's calling of Deborah to "encourage" him.
---micha9344 on 6/23/15


We have the example of Aquila and Priscilla as a teaching team. It seems that teaching is okay also from the way the question is worded. Many times however preaching is teaching. Especially if it is good preaching.

Acts 2:17
And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams:

In many cultures this is opposed. In the culture of the Apostles Roman culture placed women as property unlike the status of women in the Bible.

Look up the Prophetess and Judge Deborah.

agape
---Samuelbb7 on 6/23/15


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We in Jesus are the sanctuary and church!

And Mary Magdalene was sent by Jesus to tell the disciples that Jesus was risen. If you look at John 20, you can see, also, who was the first person Jesus appeared to.

The two disciples had been to the tomb, before Jesus appeared to Mary. So, why did He first appear to her and tell her to tell them? That could be taken to be told to preach.

But, even if she was not "preaching", still she had a relationship with Jesus, that possibly was more real than the disciples had, so He first appeared to her.

So, it's not mainly about what you can do, but how you are relating with Jesus (c:
---Bill on 6/22/15


. . . aservant is citing "Paul's law"
---1st_cliff on 6/22/15


Eph 3:1 For this cause I Paul, the prisoner of Jesus Christ for you Gentiles,
Eph 4:1 I therefore, the prisoner of the Lord . . .
2Tim 1:8
Phm 1:1 Paul, the prisoner of Jesus Christ . . .
Phm 1:9

Is it reasonable or logical that the prisoner of Jesus can make laws that the rest of the prison must follow? Isn't it more likely that the prisoner is parroting his Master's Law?

---1st_cliff, Would you share why you work so hard to defame and diminish the Authority and Glory of Jesus?
---aservant on 6/22/15


I disagree with you in this matter Cliff because Paul didn't make laws. He did on occasions express opinions (like we all do), but for the most part (as best as I can ascertain/discern) his teachings were by the leading of the Holy Spirit (God) & consistent with the overall teachings of Scripture.

Again, please explain what your Scriptural basis is for condemning Paul's teachings.
---Leon on 6/22/15


Leon, If you scroll down one, below your comment you'll notice that aservant is citing "Paul's law"
---1st_cliff on 6/22/15


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Hi Robert:

This is a good question,

1. In the church ( The House of God) the function of teaching and preaching is that of authority see 1 Timothy 2:11-15.

2. The Biblical Neaning of preaching is to proclaim so when someone is teaching they are preaching/proclaiming.

3. In 1 Timothy 3 the only ones qualified for the role of teaching are men (pastors, elders, deacons, and bishops).
---john9346 on 6/21/15


Without the law there is no freedom for the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.

Jesus said, "If you love me keep my commandments."

Jesus said, "If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love, even as I have kept my Fathers commandments, and abide in his love."
---Steveng on 6/21/15


///Robert, Unless you are under Paul's law, women can preach/teach anywhere, any time . Christians are not under "law"
---1st_cliff on 6/20/15///

Is that Cliff's law, Cliff? What is your Bible basis for that?
---Leon on 6/20/15


---robert on 6/20/15

Preaching is teaching.

Jesus, the Head of the church, is a man - 1 Tim 2:5. The twelve Apostles are men. Elders and deacons are men -- since they must be "the husband of one wife" (1 Tim 3:2, 12).

"Let a woman learn in silence with all submission. And I do not permit a woman to teach or to have authority over a man, but to be in silence" . . . 1 Tim 2:11-14.

"Let your women keep silent in the churches, they are not permitted to speak . . . for it is shameful for women to speak in church" (1 Cor 14:34-35).
---aservant on 6/20/15


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Christians are not under "law"
---1st_cliff on 6/20/15


Christians cannot count on obedience to the Law for salvation. The Law condemns. Salvation is a gift - Eph 2:8-9. Only those who have the Spirit belong (in marriage) to Christ - Rom 8:9 are real Christians (though many, many others think they are Christian) - Mt 7:21-23.

Christians must regard the Law as governance to their behavior, as witness for or against their actions as being loving or not.
---aservant on 6/20/15


Robert, Unless you are under Paul's law, women can preach/teach anywhere, any time .
Christians are not under "law"
---1st_cliff on 6/20/15


Interesting question Robert. Parallel to your question, I'm wondering can anyone (male or female) really preach & not teach or vice versa?
---Leon on 6/20/15


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