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What Is Christian Charity

I have been reading these blogs for some time now, and I have a question:

Why, among all of the Christians who participate here, is there such a lack of Christian Charity?

Everybody seems to have their own version of Christ's teaching. Why?

Pray for me,
the unworthy monk Brendan

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Monk, you asked a question and answered it with:
"Everybody seems to have their own version of Christ's teaching. Why?"

The reason many have their own version of Christ's teachings is that many put the teachings of their own Church before Scripture, and they believe that, so others do not agree with what those people say when they answer a question. To them the Bible is not final authority, their own Church is. That is the reason.
And there is not much charity for that reason also.
Another reason many do not agree is because many are just not saved. They have no revelation from the Spirit. They are not a part of the body of Christ.
---Luke on 4/8/16


YOU are the one who admitted that the SDA (and you in particular) pick and choose which commandments of God and which Sabbaths you keep. Cluny

Cluny you are condemning me for laws you say are gone. I have not condemned you period. I have just pointed out where I believe you are wrong.

Now if you are speaking of the Sabbaths given to the Jewish nation. They were prophetic and pointed to Jesus. So like you we agree they don't apply. But the Ten Commandments we believe and Orthodox churches do teach also. That they apply to us.

So explain to me where the fact I have much agreement with your church on this proves me wrong?

agape
---Samuelbb7 on 4/5/16


Hi,ChristianCherity in my eyes is sharing the love of Christ through the way you treat other now that can be your neighbors who unsaved they know even if you are the least bit hipocrite
or you really a light for Christ they watching your life!
Love of Jesus!
---Elena95555 on 4/5/16


\\And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments.
He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.\\

YOU are the one who admitted that the SDA (and you in particular) pick and choose which commandments of God and which Sabbaths you keep.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 8/18/15


Dear Cluny

You started this once before. We believe and teach we are to keep the Commandments of GOD.

1John 2:3,4

And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments.
He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.

Your answer is that we don't keep them right and we don't follow all the 613 laws.

The Orthodox church on any site I have found teaches that the Ten Commandments are for the church.

You are throwing mud. Not making valid points.

GOD loves you and I pray that the Holy Spirit will fill you. Keep your eyes on Jesus.

My love to you.
---Samuelbb7 on 8/18/15




Trav:

You said: If he can cut an paste scripture witnesses he could prove his points. Otherwise it is doctrinal opinion. Prophets witness prophets verifying/proving each other Christ and the Apostles. Otherwise the Bible would just be another family tree history.

Just being able to quote a verse here or there from scripture doesn't, in and of itself, establish truth. Context is important. The Pharisees and Satan quoted scripture to Jesus, and he quoted other scriptures back at them to refute them. Corroboration doesn't either. Prophets and apostles sometimes quoted works we no longer have (e.g. Jasher), apocryphal works (i.e. Enoch), or even pagan philosophers.
---StrongAxe on 8/18/15


\\Since I have indoor plumbing that is done by the city for me.\\

In other words, you don't follow the divine commandment about basic sanitation.

So don't say you keep all the commandments.

Do SDAs drive their cars to services on Saturday?

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 8/17/15


Funny Cluny.

Since I have indoor plumbing that is done by the city for me.

You do not obey the fourth of the Ten Commandments.

Antiochian Orthodox Christian's have a site about the importance of the Ten Commandments.
---Samuelbb7 on 8/17/15


\\I obey all scripture.
---Samuelbb7 on 8/15/15
\\

Except the one about going outside the city to do your business and then burying it.

You said so yourself.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 8/16/15


Incorrect Trav. You have never backed me into a corner. Since you don't answer my points or questions.

Matthew 5:14
Ye are the light of the world. A city that is set on an hill cannot be hid.

Mark 14:9

Luke 14:10-24

Matthew 13:36-43

Luke 2:32
A light to lighten the Gentiles, and the glory of thy people Israel.

Luke 3:6
And all flesh shall see the salvation of God.

John 1:29

... Behold the Lamb of God, which taketh away the sin of the world.

Mat 28:19
Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:

Romans 2:10
... the Jew first, and also to the Gentile:

I obey all scripture.
---Samuelbb7 on 8/15/15




\\To pose as a humble, spiritual advise giver, teacher, scriptural authority and not provide proof is to be like yourself.
An empty "habit" puffing personal interpretations without any authorized proven witnesses of GOD behind them.\\

Keep on blessing me and increasing my heavenly treasure, Trav.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 8/14/15


Trav, The fool says in his heart, There is no God. They are corrupt, their deeds are vile, there is no one who does good.(Psalms 14:1)

You attempted to show "Christian Charity" to me with an acidic remark. I have tried to treat you and everybody with the charity and love that God has commanded, but you have constantly fired back at me with both barrels of a Scriptural shotgun. I can quote Scripture as much as you want. However, sometimes the answer to you is just to remain mute, and let you rant.

Pray for me,
the unworthy monk Brendan
---Monk_Brendan on 8/14/15


\\If you knew scripture you'd quote i\\

Someone's ability to quote Scripture doesn't mean he's giving the Word of God.
---Cluny on 8/13/15

If he can cut an paste scripture witnesses he could prove his points. Otherwise it is doctrinal opinion. Prophets witness prophets verifying/proving each other Christ and the Apostles. Otherwise the Bible would just be another family tree history.
To pose as a humble, spiritual advise giver, teacher, scriptural authority and not provide proof is to be like yourself.
An empty "habit" puffing personal interpretations without any authorized proven witnesses of GOD behind them.
Psa_119:104 Through thy precepts I get understanding: therefore I hate every false way.
---Trav on 8/13/15


\\If you knew scripture you'd quote i\\

Satan and the Pharisees knew Scripture and even quoted it to Jesus.

So what?

Someone's ability to quote Scripture doesn't mean he's giving the Word of God.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 8/13/15


Trav said, "...All that work and you've learned little.
You've studied mans doctrine.
You teach the same.
Any fisherman/Apostle backs you into a corner you cannot get out of.
Its found you know very little about what scripture "actually" says.
You've never obeyed the first command searching for sheep as long as I've seen you post.
Making you a rebel.
Mat_10:6 But go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel."


Mark 7:28 Lord, she replied, even the dogs under the table eat the childrens crumbs.

If we are only to go to the lost sheep of Israel, then everybody that posts on these blogs are lost, because non of us are Jews.

Pray for me,
the unworthy monk Brendan
---Monk_Brendan on 8/13/15


...I am somewhat of an expert.
I have taken college classes in Bible and Christian history... read the whole Bible in six different translation and New Testament in more.
I have taught adult Bible study classes for 25 years.
---Samuelbb7 on 8/4/15

Experts don't need resumes. All that work and you've learned little.
You've studied mans doctrine.
You teach the same.
Any fisherman/Apostle backs you into a corner you cannot get out of.
Its found you know very little about what scripture "actually" says.
You've never obeyed the first command searching for sheep as long as I've seen you post.
Making you a rebel.
Mat_10:6 But go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.
---Trav on 8/12/15


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...I don't cite Scripture, doesn't mean I don't know it.
Prov 1:7... but fools despise wisdom and instruction.
But when I have asked for bread, you have only given me stones (Mat 7:9)
---Monk_Brendan on 8/2/15

I've never stated or implied what is not in my power to know or do.
If you knew scripture you'd quote it. For example,if you knew GOD was married, divorced and to remarry we'd discuss it friendly like brothers.
Me thinks your "habit" is your pride...in a not so humble way.
You called scripture "rock throwing". I guess scripture is the rock that crushes false doctrines.
Rebukes are free...wisdom gained is purchased in price of self recognition.
---Trav on 8/11/15


/Should we not demand an Expert to explain the Holy Spirit Words of the Bible to live in our brain and heart?\-Nicole_Lacey on 8/3/15
2Ti 4:3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine, but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears,
Most people that read the Bible on their own do not come to the same doctrinal conclusions as the mainstream churches.
Therefore, some indoctrination must occur with presuppositions to draw agreed upon conclusions.
Why not let God through His Word, rather than the commandments of men, shape your doctrines?
2Ti 2:15 Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.
---micha9344 on 8/5/15


Well I am somewhat of an expert. I have taken college classes in Bible and Christian history.

I have read the whole Bible in six different translation and the New Testament in more.

I have taught adult Bible study classes for 25 years.

Yes Rita it does help you learn more about the Bible.

Agape
---Samuelbb7 on 8/4/15


Good point Darlene,
But I know you have read the Bible from front to back more than 100 times due to I remember your age given to me in another blog.

Each time you received a new message from the Holy Spirit.

As others after reading the Bible.

Someone has to be the EXPERT.
Someone has to be the Teacher.

Why have a Sunday School Teacher?
Give the Bible to the kid after he learned how to read.

If we are demanding an Expert to remove a tooth from our mouth.
Should we not demand an Expert to explain the Holy Spirit Words of the Bible to live in our brain and heart?
---Nicole_Lacey on 8/3/15


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Samuel you need to know just a few words from a verse to find it. You might know those few words from something you've read, from a sermon or from a person but not, necessarily, because you read it in the bible. The internet has made this so much easier. I have learnt very much by using this method. Once I find where it is in the bible I then, usually, want to read the whole chapter (or book) to see it in context. That is one way of learning but there are many ways. You can then start cross-referencing things and learn much more.
---Rita_H on 8/3/15


Good point Rita. I know I am lazy and use a search engine so I don't have to type the verses in. Also sometimes my spelling is bad.

But you have to had read the Bible and know the verses are there to hunt for them

Correct clogs not a U.S. expression but yes we can figure it out. Are you from the U.K. ?

Agape
---Samuelbb7 on 8/3/15


When I quote scripture on this website it NEVER proves that I know a lot of scripture. It shows that I know how to find it though, by using the easiest modern way (a search engine). There are older fashioned ways such as concordances, bible dictionaries etc. which can prompt our memory if we just know a few key words.

We can all look very clever here (with a little effort) but God knows the fake from the genuine, the sincere from the insincere, the humble from the 'clever clogs'. Not sure if you in U.S. use that term but you can guess it's meaning I'm sure.

Having God's approval here is more important than having each others'. Let's stop the bickering.
---Rita_H on 8/3/15


Trav said, "The caring charity was me taking time to point out what you have never been told. The proof is in the charitable scriptural answers that are free..."

I know that you consider me one of the lost, and bound for hell. You have all but stated it in so many words. However, just because I don't cite Scripture, doesn't mean I don't know it.

Prov 1:7 says, The fear of the Lord is the beginning of knowledge, but fools despise wisdom and instruction.

Or A gentle answer turns away wrath, but a harsh word stirs up anger.(Prov 15:1)

But when I have asked for bread, you have only given me stones (Mat 7:9)



Pray for me,
the unworthy monk Brendan
---Monk_Brendan on 8/2/15


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Good points Darlene

But all scripture must be compared to all other scripture to find truth.

Acts 17:11
These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so.

Agape
---Samuelbb7 on 8/2/15


Monk Brendan The different beliefs reflect the Denomination each person learned the Bible from. So much of such teaching is according to that particular denominations traditions,rules,rituals and other practices they follow. That is why we should all go by the Word of God especially where the Word teaches we need no man to teach us for the Holy Ghost or Spirit of Truth will lead us into all truth. I make it a point to pray and ask God to "lead me into your truth Lord". I may be Pentecostal but I've never been a preacher person or bound by any denomination's teaching for I only want what God wants for me. Denominations/churches don't get us to heaven only obedience to the Word and belief in Christ as God's son,or lamb of God. God Bless
---Darlene_1 on 8/1/15


Because we, (including myself) don't behave as if Jesus is coming today.
Or we might die tonight ourselves.

We act more like Adam, instead of Jesus.
---Nicole_Lacey on 8/1/15


\\You received a truthful answer.\\

Maybe so, but it wasn't from you, Trav.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 7/31/15


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Amen Darlene1

Loving and caring for others is being like Jesus.

Agape
---Samuelbb7 on 7/31/15


It is easy to love the ones who love us but we need to love those who don't love us and the most unlovable. God Bless
---Darlene_1 on 7/30/15


This reply is not even close to the question I asked.
You just went into attack mode right away.
This totally lacks any sort of Christian charity.
---Monk_Brendan on 7/30/15

You asked the question. You received a truthful answer. Truth just wasn't what you wanted to hear.
The caring charity was me taking time to point out what you have never been told. The proof is in the charitable scriptural answers that are free, to the "sheep" who asks and seeks the thousands of witnessing verses saying the same thing, to the same people, from the GOD who remains the same.

Mal_3:6 For I am the LORD, I change not, therefore ye sons of Jacob are not consumed.
---Trav on 7/30/15


Trav said, "You ask why the different versions?...Witnesses eradicate any false versions. A sign/mark is when the witnesses are not seen or do not fit the doctrinal opinion arguing against them or agreement with them."

This reply is not even close to the question I asked. You just went into attack mode right away. This totally lacks any sort of Christian charity.

Pray for me,
the unworthy monk Brendan
---Monk_Brendan on 7/30/15


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Monk_Brendan:

You asked: Why, among all of the Christians who participate here, is there such a lack of Christian Charity? Everybody seems to have their own version of Christ's teaching. Why?

This is a side-effect of evangelism (whether Christian, Muslim, Communist, or anything else). You think you have the truth, and it's your duty to share it with others. This may be unpleasant, like telling someone his house is on fire. Unfortunately, such perception of truth is subjective, and someone else may not accept your words as truth (at which point your forcefulness comes off as mere rudeness, or worse). With so many voices with different messages, most must necessarily be wrong - so it becomes a cacophony of rudeness.
---StrongAxe on 7/29/15


Good points.

But Christian Charity is more then just being kind to others. It is caring about them. Also when possible helping other people.

GOD bless and keep ya'll.
---Samuelbb7 on 7/29/15


"Everybody seems to have their own version of Christ's teaching. Why?" Because we are all individual free thinkers. Speaking from the understanding we hold and embrace.
---joseph on 7/29/15


Maybe a very few who post on this blog look for chances to disagree with the questioner. But most who write a comment that disagrees are sharing their honest Christian belief, trying to help. Excess scrutiny is rarely a good thing.
---Geraldine on 7/29/15


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Monk Brendan...
We take offence at the words of another user (who might have meant no offence)...
We appear to be biting when we should be purring.
---Rita_H on 7/29/15

Rita is correct. But, then so was Christ. His own family despised him. His fulfilling of scriptures was a mark and sign, yet they would not tolerate it, even to this day.
You ask why the different versions? But, show no scriptures witnessing scriptures ever to make your doctrinal points. Witnesses eradicate any false versions. A sign/mark is when the witnesses are not seen or do not fit the doctrinal opinion arguing against them or agreement with them.
---Trav on 7/29/15


Monk Brendan in many cases (though not all) I think this is the case simply because we ALL want to appear to be correct and will always defend our own corner. If we said exactly the same things whilst in a room together, facing each other, our words would come across very differently but here we cannot show facial expressions or allow others to hear the intonation in our voice. What you read is what you get and it doesn't always read well.

We take offence at the words of another user (who might have meant no offence) and sadly, in our response, cause more offence when none was intended by us either.

We appear to be biting when we should be purring.
---Rita_H on 7/29/15


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