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Favorite Bible Version

Most of us probably have many versions of the bible but do you have one that you use almost exclusively or you'd describe it as being your favourite version?

I like the N.A.S.B and the N.I.V. but have several others also.

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The King James is still a good translation. Even though the translators did not believe as we see the Bible teaches.

We are looking at the Scholarly and translation skills. Not their doctrines.

There is a number of the Early Church fathers and Catholic writers in history who were great Christians. I just do not agree with some of their teachings. But they and many today are still Christians.
---Samuelbb7 on 2/1/16


\\cluny: "Why then do so many favor a Bible translated by people who not only practiced but defended all these things?"

This is still a nonsense question\\

jerry, are you making a futile attempt to DENY the historical fact that the translators of the KJV believed in infant baptism, hierarchy, and a fixed liturgy?

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 1/31/16


\\This is still a nonsense question. BTW, have you ever researched the freak show of translators of the NIV?\\

Since I don't use the NIV, this is a non-question.

However, once more you did not actually answer mine, but merely ridiculed it.

\\Is there an Orthodox Bible?

---jerry6593 on 11/10/15\\

Yes. The Greek LXX and NT.

There are Slavonic, Russian, and Romanian translations of this by their respective churches.

The closest we have in English is the Orthodox Study Bible, where the OT is translated from the LXX, and the NT is the NKJV.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 1/29/16


I enjoy reading the Authorized Version the most, but other versions can be helpful too.
---john1944 on 11/10/15


cluny: "Why then do so many favor a Bible translated by people who not only practiced but defended all these things?"

This is still a nonsense question. BTW, have you ever researched the freak show of translators of the NIV?

Is there an Orthodox Bible?



---jerry6593 on 11/10/15




True Cluny it is. But the point is that the Bible when properly translated to adhere to the words will read the same no matter how much the translators differ in their theology.

The King James is my favorite reading Bible. I like the NKJV also.

I also like the Amplified when studying topics.

Agape
---Samuelbb7 on 11/2/15


Yes, I have 50 Bible translations. My favorite is still the NIV. That is more the way I am accustomed in every day speech. I also like the NAB and NRSV because these are written also the way we speak. I like the KJV and the NASB, but I don't speak that way. I prefer literal or dynamic equivalent.
---Yon on 11/2/15


Most people here do not believe in infant baptism, baptism in any other way than total immersion, episcopacy, hierarchy, or a fixed liturgy.

Why then do so many favor a Bible translated by people who not only practiced but defended all these things?

Curious, isn't it?

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 10/6/15


I just watched a presentation by Professor Walter Veith on the comparison of Bible versions, their histories and the men who made the revisions. You can find it on YouTube by searching his "Total Onslaught" series and watching Number 13 - "Battle of the Bibles". It was most enlightening.


---jerry6593 on 10/5/15


\\"For among the things that are plainly laid down in Scripture are to be found all matters that concern faith and the manner of life ..."

st Augustine on Christian Doctrine book 2 chapter 9
---john9346 on 9/24/15\\

And you think this means Jesus is the same thing as the Bible?

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 9/25/15




\\ I find problems with the NIV. The NKJV is actually closer to the NIV than it is the KJV.\\

This may be so in the OT, but the NT of the NKJV is based on the received text, just like the KJV, but unlike the NIV.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 9/25/15


In a new church I tried I was told that the version they used was the NKJV. A asked what it was and was told "The Spirit Filled Version". I asked more and was told that it was the KJV with the THEEs & THOUs taken out. After three visits to that church - having been told to 'raise my hands whilst singing like everyone else', 'put away my chorus sheet as I should know them by now' and was stared at by the man next to me as if I were from a different planet.

I left wondering where the 'spirit' was or which 'spirit' they wanted in their church.

They had a serious problem and it wasn't the 'version' causing it.
---andreea on 9/25/15


I greatly prefer the KJV. I find problems with the NIV. The NKJV is actually closer to the NIV than it is the KJV. If I did not have access to a KJV my second choice would be the Amplified Bible Classic Addition.
---trey on 9/24/15


"For among the things that are plainly laid down in Scripture are to be found all matters that concern faith and the manner of life ..."

st Augustine on Christian Doctrine book 2 chapter 9
---john9346 on 9/24/15


Mat 3:16-17 And Jesus, when he was baptized, went up straightway out of the water: and, lo, the heavens were opened unto him, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove, and lighting upon him: And lo a voice from heaven, saying, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.
-We see here, in the written Word of God, the Incarnate Word of God, the spoken Word of God, and the Spirit of God.
These all are in agreement.
All proceed forth from God in varying ways, but none are the same.
---micha9344 on 9/23/15


\\This is why I ask you and Cluny to show where God separate himself from his word \\

I have done so several time.

\\and you cant because everyone who wrote the bible believed with out a doubt that the bible is the Word of God.\\

1. The people who wrote the Bible might not have been aware of the significance of what they were writing.

2. Jesus is the Incarnate Word of God. The Bible is the written word of God. But they are not the same, and saying they are over and over again will not make it so.

But I don't expect you to understand this distinction, because you err, knowing neither the Scriptures nor the power of God.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 9/22/15


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umm, John...
The Bible wasn't the Bible until much later.
I quoted you what he wrote.
He never mentioned "Bible" in his writings.
The Bible is the Word of God.
Every word that proceeds(ed) from the mouth of God is not written in the Bible, hence, when Jesus said "every word", He didn't mean just the written Word of God (Notice "from the mouth of God.")
Why are you so stalwart in this? Have you been indoctrinated to believe Jesus and the Bible are one and the same just because they are both the Word of God?
BTW, you keep mentioning "separation" as if God's Word does not leave His presence to accomplish His purpose, whether it be the written Word, the spoken Word, or otherwise.
---micha9344 on 9/22/15


Micha said, "Man cannot live on the Bible alone(Deu 8:3, Luke 4:4)."

wow so now Jesus is lying when he said, "But He answered and said, It is written, Man shall not live on bread alone, but on every word that proceeds out of the mouth of God."

You are saying to me, "it is.", but then you are saying, "no it is not.", both cant be true.


This is why I ask you and Cluny to show where God separate himself from his word and you cant because everyone who wrote the bible believed with out a doubt that the bible is the Word of God.

Augustine did say that.

I recommend gotquestions website to find books on topic.


thanks for dialog,

John
---john9346 on 9/22/15


The King James Bible has been published for 400 years. If we had no other manuscript evidence we can be confident in the preservation of scriptures for 1/4 of Biblical history using only this one book. It has not changed.
Changing the reading of the Bible every 15 years is a recent invention by faithless Bible translators.
If you want a Bible still published that does not change, there is only one. If you want a Bible that is perfectly preserved throughout history, understood by the majority of English speaking people, and used by the greatest spiritual minds in history, there is only one.
---michael_e on 9/22/15


/"When you read the Bible, God speaks to you."St. Augustine\-john9346 on 9/21/15
-John, to replace "the Word" with "the Bible" is contextually poor judgment.
-To misquote someone is even worse.
/The same is Thy Word, which is also the Beginning, because also It speaketh unto us.\-St Augustine
The Bible is/was not:
-in the beginning (John 1:1).
-made flesh(John 1:14).
-having the fullness of the godhead bodily indwelt (Col 2:9).
-our advocate (1John 2:1).
-our mediator (1Tim 2:5)
-Man cannot live on the Bible alone(Deu 8:3, Luke 4:4)
-Every Word of God is not contained in the Bible (John 20:30,31)
-Was this spoken by God, "Ye shall not surely die"(Gen 3:4b)?
---micha9344 on 9/21/15


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\\isa 55:11 the word for the Word is Dabar meaning the very Spoken Word of God equivalent to logos.\\

Actually, "Logos" does not mean "spoken word" in Greek.

That word is RHEMA.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 9/21/15


Cluny said, "Here is where Jesus says that devotion to the Bible can get in the way of Himself."

In context, jn 5:39-47 Jesus is rebuking the jews for not believing "Scripture." that prophesied his coming.

JOHN a bible study program for orthodox disagrees with your interpretation of verses.

Micha said, "The Bible is the Word of God.
They are not the same".


isa 55:11 the word for the Word is Dabar meaning the very Spoken Word of God equivalent to logos.

the only separation mentioned is object (God) from subject (thing).

really, gen 3:4 Satan's Words as support?




"When you read the Bible, God speaks to you."

St. Augustine
---john9346 on 9/21/15


\\"Why did Jesus say that devotion to the Scriptures can get in the way of a relationship with Himself?"

chapter and verse please lol\\

John 5:39 Search the scriptures, for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me.

40 And ye will not come to me, that ye might have life.

Here is where Jesus says that devotion to the Bible can get in the way of Himself.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 9/20/15


Isaiah 55:11 So shall my word be that goeth forth out of my mouth: it shall not return unto me void, but it shall accomplish that which I please, and it shall prosper [in the thing] whereto I sent it.
Neither is the Word of God God Himself, but that which He sends. "You shall not surely die"(Gen 3:4) did not "goeth forth out of my(God's) mouth."
You are confusing the Word of God.
Jesus is the Word of God.
Jesus was present when God spoke His words "This is my beloved Son."
The Bible is the Word of God.
They are not the same.
Jesus is God.
The Holy Spirit is God
The Father is God.
They are One, but not the same.
The Holy Spirit must reveal this to you, for it is spiritually discerned.
---micha9344 on 9/20/15


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Cluny, micha,

statements are cultic in nature:

"The Bible is not the exhaustive Word of God as Jesus is."



"Why did Jesus say that devotion to the Scriptures can get in the way of a relationship with Himself?"

(The Bible is the Word of God insofar as it is translated correctly),

Mormon eighth article of faith

"It should be expected that the Lord would have a means of communication to his people on the earth, and he has clearly shown that the magazine called The Watchtower is used for that purpose,"
Yearbook of Jehovah's Witnesses,

"Science & Health is the first book which has been uncontaminated by human hypotheses.

Mary Baker Eddy
---john9346 on 9/20/15


Micha you said, "The Bible is not the exhaustive Word of God as Jesus is."

And when did Jesus separate himself from his word??

Micha you said, "The Bible does not contain "all the fullness."

And the next verse my friend, "But these are written that you may believe that Jesus is the Messiah, the Son of God, and that by believing you may have life in his name."


"Why did Jesus say that devotion to the Scriptures can get in the way of a relationship with Himself?"

chapter and verse please lol

again my question to you Please show in Scripture where God is separate from his Word (the bible)??
---john9346 on 9/20/15


-Let's provide an example:
Gen 3:4b Ye shall not surely die:
-This is a lie, but the fact that the serpent said this is true.
-The Bible contains statements that are lies as a matter of historical record.
On the other hand, in Jesus is all the fullness of the Godhead bodily.
The Bible does not contain "all the fullness."
Even John, the Apostle wrote:
Jhn 20:30 And many other signs truly did Jesus in the presence of his disciples, which are not written in this book:
Honestly John, things can have the same name and be similar but not the same.
I accept the knowledge that the Father and the Son are God and yet not the same.
The Bible is not the exhaustive Word of God as Jesus is.
---micha9344 on 9/19/15


\\the great teacher scholars of "Christianity" did not teach properly.\\

So you think that YOU teach properly, faithforfaith?

Who do you think are the scholars of Christianity who did not teach properly, and about what?

Be specific.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 9/19/15


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The real word of God hung on the cross after the "word of God" became flesh (it never returned to TEXTUAL form as in Isaiah 9:18).

Rev 19:13 and the name by which he is called is The Word of God.

We read the GOSPEL OF OUR SALVATION and should use and understand CORRECTLY ("rightly divide it")....the great teacher scholars of "Christianity" did not teach properly. So don't worry about WHICH VERSION is right, LEARN properly first before you decide on VERSIONS.

Eph 1:13 who have heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation,

2Ti 2:1 rightly handling the word of truth.

Jas 1:18 he brought us forth by the word of truth that we should be a kind of first fruits of his creatures.
---faithforfaith on 9/19/15


\\You can not separate Jesus from his Word my friend.\\

Then why would Jesus quote the Scriptures as they existed in His earthly sojourn, "You have heard it said.....," then say, "But **I** say unto you..."?

Why did Jesus say that devotion to the Scriptures can get in the way of a relationship with Himself?

Would He have said this if He's the same as the Bible?

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 9/19/15


\\
You can not separate Jesus from his Word my friend.\\

Yes, you can.

The Son/Logos existed eternally before one word of the Bible was ever written down.

Furthermore, the NT never existed before the Incarnate Son/Logos ascended into Heaven.

You don't actually think there's a copy of the Bible hanging around in heaven, do you?

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 9/18/15


Cluny you said, "
It's the WRITTEN word of God."

It is "The Word of God." my friend, not just written.

The word "Logos." when referring to the bible is used in Heb 4:12 and Jn 17:17.

Cluny, Jesus and his Word is 1 not 2 my friend...

Please show in Scripture where God is separate from his Word (the bible)??
---john9346 on 9/18/15


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\\Cluny you said, "The Logos is what was incarnate, which is God's begotten Son, not the Bible."

And what is the bible?
---john9346 on 9/18/15\\

It's the WRITTEN word of God.

The Bible was not incarnate for my salvation, nor crucified, nor did it rise from the dead, nor is it returning in glory as judge.


Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 9/18/15


Micha you said, "The Bible is true, but Jesus is the Truth."

You can not separate Jesus from his Word my friend.

Your statement does that very thing

See John 1717, 1:1-3, 14, 2 Tim 3:16-17, 2 Pet 1:15-21.


bottom line is the bible the Word of God or not???

Jesus does not separate himself from his word so why are you??
---john9346 on 9/18/15


John,
Mustangs are Fords and T-birds are Fords but Mustangs are not T-birds.
I believe you understand the Trinity.
Jesus is God and the Father is God, but Jesus is not the Father.
This follows the same understanding.
The Bible is the Word of God and Jesus is the Word of God but Jesus is not the Bible.
The Bible is true, but Jesus is the Truth.
There are truths in the Bible that did not proceed from the mouth of God, yet were inspired (God breathed).
Jesus proceeded from(was brought forth from, begotten of) the Father.
The Bible reveals the Truth (Jesus) and is sufficient for belief.
The disciples heard the Word of God through God, the Word (Logos).
Many similarities, many differences.
---micha9344 on 9/18/15


Cluny you said, "The Logos is what was incarnate, which is God's begotten Son, not the Bible."

And what is the bible?
---john9346 on 9/18/15


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**Cluny response to me, "When Christians say that Jesus is the Incarnate Word of God, you don't think that's the same thing as saying Jesus is the Bible, do you?

Yes What did John 1:1-3 tell you?
---john9346 on 9/17/15**

It's not talking about the Bible here.

The Logos is what was incarnate, which is God's begotten Son, not the Bible.

I see you have not been well instructed.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 9/18/15


Samuel, my faith also is based on Jesus Christ, and him crucified. However I believe my Bible is the PERFECT word of God, or it is not the word of God.
Do you believe God inspired His perfect holy words in the "originals," but has lost them, since no one has a perfect Bible today?
---michael_e on 9/18/15


John said, "The bible (The Word) is Jesus Christ and Jesus Christ is the bible (The Word)"

Forgive me, John, but the bible is paper and ink, or electronic impulses stored in memory. What we hear or read, and understand and take to heart, that is the Word.

Jesus is the second Person of the Holy Trinity. He is true God and true Man at the same time. He is the Word, but He is not made of paper and ink. While He is the Word and the Bible is the Word, the two are not the same. If you stab a bible, it won't bleed. Jesus did bleed.

Pray for me,
the unworthy monk Brendan
---Monk_Brendan on 9/18/15


Michael I love the King James Bible. But my faith is based on Jesus Christ. Not every word in the KJV has to be correct. Nor in any Bible. Men who translated and wrote were not perfect. They were inspired not robots.

When I asked Jesus into my heart he changed me and my life. I depend on the Word to show me truth from error. I believe in Sola Scriptora.

Agape
---Samuelbb7 on 9/17/15


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Cluny response to me, "When Christians say that Jesus is the Incarnate Word of God, you don't think that's the same thing as saying Jesus is the Bible, do you?

Yes What did John 1:1-3 tell you?
---john9346 on 9/17/15


\\The bible (The Word) is Jesus Christ and Jesus Christ is the bible (The Word).\\

When Christians say that Jesus is the Incarnate Word of God, you don't think that's the same thing as saying Jesus is the Bible, do you?

Or do you believe this is a metaphor for saying that He is the perfect embodiment of everything in the Bible?

In both cases, you are wrong.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 9/17/15


Michael E. said, "Monk Brendan said //Not on Jesus Christ?//
Do you not believe Jesus is God?"


He also said, " "The reason that I believe every word in my King James Bible, is that my faith in God depends upon it."

What I was asking was does your faith in God depend on the KJV, and not upon Jesus Christ--which you seem to imply in your post?

As far as what I believe,...

I believe in one Lord Jesus Christ, the only-begotten Son of God, begotten of the Father before all ages, Light of Light, true God of true God, begotten, not made, being of one essence with the Father.

Pray for me,
the unworthy monk Brendan
---Monk_Brendan on 9/17/15


There are transcriptional errors in the KJV.
It shook my faith a bit when I was confronted with such.
Through much study and prayer, I have been led to realize that God allows humans to be human, and yet have His Word proclaimed in Spirit and in Truth.
The Holy Spirit, Himself, bearing witness to God's Word, which is the Holy Scriptures contained in versions.
Versions do not negate the Word, they enforce it.
It is the Word that cuts and separates Truth from error.
I prefer NKJV for most of my reading, but use many other versions online, for clarity and interpretation.
---micha9344 on 9/17/15


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Samuel, my young friend, my statement was
"The reason that I believe every word in my King James Bible, is that my (FAITH IN GOD) depends upon it." So I'll give you the same reply.
Do you not believe Jesus is God?
---michael_e on 9/17/15


Brendan asked, "Not on Jesus Christ?"

The bible (The Word) is Jesus Christ and Jesus Christ is the bible (The Word)

see John 1:1-3 and 5:39-40.
---john9346 on 9/17/15


Michael Monk Brendan was asking you the question. Do you beleive the Bible saves you or Jesus Christ.

Jesus Christ saves us and is the foundation of the church. The Bible tells us about him and the will of GOD.

Ephesians 2:20
And are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner stone,

The Church is not founded on Peter but Jesus Christ, the prophets and Apostles.

What they wrote to us is the final authority on all doctrine.

Agape
---Samuelbb7 on 9/17/15


Monk Brendan said //Not on Jesus Christ?//
Do you not believe Jesus is God?
---michael_e on 9/16/15


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Michael E said, "The reason that I believe every word in my King James Bible, is that my faith in God depends upon it."

Not on Jesus Christ?

My favorite version is the NIV, but I can get along with almost any version that has a faithful translation.

However, for really critical work I go to the Textus Receptus translated by St. Jerome.

Pray for me,
the unworthy monk Brendan
---Monk_Brendan on 9/16/15


Well Cluny I am 63 but have only followed Jesus for four decades. I was over 20 when I had to give up my doubts and unbelief and accept the word of GOD.

Agape
---Samuelbb7 on 9/16/15


//I'm over 60 and have been following Christ for over 5 decades.//
Two reasons I call you my young friend
---michael_e on 9/15/15


\\Cluny, my young friend,\\

I'm over 60 and have been following Christ for over 5 decades.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 9/15/15


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//And do you believe the KJV where it says that bats are birds (which they are not)?//
Cluny, my young friend, I would have thought one of your commentaries would have taken you deeper than it has.
You don't think linnean classification was available during Lev. and Deut, do you? Here, the word birds is "owner of a wing", the word being 'owph, coming from a root word which means to cover or fly.
The category covers birds, bats, and certain insects.
Just think if you could find all the "errors" and correct them, we would have a perfect Bible.
More KJV less commentary my young friend.
---michael_e on 9/15/15


Actually Cluny the KJV does not say bats are birds. They are in a list of flying animals. I have heard these words from Atheists who hate the Bible. I did not expect them from you.

I have opposed the KJV only people a number of times. But it is still my favorite Bible. I have a movie on how it was translated and the people involved.

The Words of the KJV are bound up in the history of the English language. while it is not my only Bible I still love and respect it.

As one Atheistic historian said you cannot understand many of the Great Speeches and history of the English people without having read the KJV Bible.

Agape
---Samuelbb7 on 9/15/15


\The reason that I believe every word in my King James Bible, is that my faith in God depends upon it.
\\
Does your faith depend on the Word of God--or on the KJV itself? KJV where it says that bats are birds (which they are not)?
---Cluny on 9/15/15

You seldom reference/post any scripture version but, feel the need to jab women who are using the most researched bible version in the world?
Rita comes across more intelligent than yourself standing on this rock or precepts rather than your opinions of sand that offers nothing but tasteless rancor.

Psa_119:104 Through thy precepts I get understanding: therefore I hate every false way.
---Trav on 9/15/15


\\The reason that I believe every word in my King James Bible, is that my faith in God depends upon it.
\\

Does your faith depend on the Word of God--or on the KJV itself? Remember that Christians went for over 1600 years without it.

And if it is on the KJV itself, then which recension?

And do you believe the KJV where it says that bats are birds (which they are not)?

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 9/15/15


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King James. The most beautiful sounding Bible in existence.

NKJV is second. I like the NASB and the RSV for in-depth study.

Agape
---Samuelbb7 on 9/15/15


It is foolish to doubt the Bible you study when the words of eternal life and peace with God are not beneficial until they are first believed?
The reason that I believe every word in my King James Bible, is that my faith in God depends upon it.
---michael_e on 9/14/15


First and far most The NASV.

Secondary is kjv, ESV, and Niv.

and just found this morning the World English Bible.

I used to use kjv only, but after much research, have found numerous errors.
---john9346 on 9/13/15


I bought the NASB to do some bible study courses with Charles Stanley. Answers had to be word perfect for a computer to be able to mark them so all had to work from the same version. I came to like it.

I find it very helpful, when confused over the meaning of certain verses, to have quite a lot of different versions with which to compare.
---Rita_H on 9/13/15


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KJV (complete) and NKJV, especially in the Orthodox Study Bible edition.

My only criticism of the NASB is that it's not based on the TR in the NT.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 9/12/15


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