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What are your thoughts about the Syrian refugee crisis? We Americans don't know how good we have it and take so much for granted.

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StrongAxe on 5/27/16. So true.
---josef on 6/3/16


josef:

You wrote: Fully realizing that all the company owed me during my employment was a paycheck for my services

It is true that in any kind of professional relationship, an employee owes his employer an honest day's work, and the employer ows his employee an honest day's wage. However, there is one thing that has long been an extremely important part of human culture, yet is being forgotten today. That is loyalty.

Most companies today treat employees like used tissues, throwing them out on a whim - and then lament that it's so hard to find loyal and honest employees. Companies used to look after their employees, but now they don't do that, so employees are forced to look after themselves.
---StrongAxe on 5/27/16


Josef
I agree well put. we can look at both sides I've experienced personally being a hard worker faithful dependable and all those other words yet others are the exact opposite got the hours or other perks when they didn't deserve it and at those times I was either angry perplexed as to why. But years later after being saved God's word is taught me to be thankful for everything I have and that when I work no matter what the work is that I'm doing it for the Lord.
---Lee on 5/24/16


"yet we are always surprised, disappointed, and outraged when they are exactly that." I was definitely surprised and disappointed, although through those emotions, what I felt most at that time was blessed to have experienced the opportunity to earn a living, virtually uninterrupted for those thirty years. Fully realizing that all the company owed me during my employment was a paycheck for my services, and with all praises due the Father, I never failed to receive that.
---josef on 5/23/16


josef:

You wrote: Again, so true. I have personally experienced this, without the "hiccup", after thirty years of service. They called it downsizing.

According to the law, corporations have a fiduciary responsibility to their stockholders first, their customers second, and their employees dead last. We call humans who put their own interests first, without regard to the concerns of others, "sociopaths". Our laws require corporations to be sociopathic, yet we are always surprised, disappointed, and outraged when they are exactly that.
---StrongAxe on 5/23/16




"On the other hand, one should somehow be rewarded for past accomplishments, such as loyalty and years of service. These days, loyalty is an archaism, and most companies take the short view, with an attitude of "what have you done for me lately?". Amen. Sadly, unjustly, and unfortunately, No doubt.

"You can serve faithfully for decades, staying with a company through thick and thin, but one financial hiccup and you're out on the street with not so much as a "thank you". Again, so true. I have personally experienced this, without the "hiccup", after thirty years of service. They called it downsizing.
---josef on 5/22/16


josef:

OK. I totally agree with this. I'm sorry, I misunderstood what you wrote originally. I don't believe in people sitting on their laurels.

On the other hand, one should somehow be rewarded for past accomplishments, such as loyalty and years of service. These days, loyalty is an archaism, and most companies take the short view, with an attitude of "what have you done for me lately?". You can serve faithfully for decades, staying with a company through thick and thin, but one financial hiccup and you're out on the street with not so much as a "thank you".
---StrongAxe on 5/22/16


"josef:

It sounds like you believe the cost of professionals' training has no bearing on whether they deserve to be paid more for their work...."


Srongaxe, I have no idea how my statement brought you to that conclusion. What I believe is "What a person earns should be based on their contribution, [to the growth, development, and success of the company that employs them], not their education, or lack thereof. Taking nothing from those who dedicate them to receiving an education, or the earnings the knowledge gained from that education demands in our society.
---josef on 5/21/16


Correction: "[I am] taking nothing from those who dedicate [themselves] to receiving an education, or the earnings the knowledge gained from that education demands in our society."
---josef on 5/22/16


josef:

It sounds like you believe the cost of professionals' training has no bearing on whether they deserve to be paid more for their work. I just showed it DOES, because if highly traid professionals were paid the same as unskilled workers, nobody would ever want to be a professional, as the extra efford and money would produce the same results.

If I gave you a choice to work 4, 8, or 16 hours a day but for the same pay in each case, which would you choose? I think very few people would choose the 16 hour job.

Lee:

40 years ago, 66% of the U.S. work force made less than the threshold for being paid for overtime, but that has not gone up with inflation. Now it's only around 8%, and many companies exploit that.
---StrongAxe on 5/21/16




I'm not sure how y'all got on that topic but it caught my attention. This is my opinion. There should be a higher minimum wage and then a wage increase in all professions. because in this day and time the people that work in these lower paid jobs can barely survive on that pay. so in turn they turn to more government assistance food stamps excetera which causes taxpayers to pay more anyway. not to mention that most of the lower wagecompanies. only provide part time work.
---Lee on 5/21/16


StrongAxe I missed your question, if there was one, concerning my statement.
---josef on 5/20/16


josef:

You wrote: fulfilling that requirement is their choice, and again, has nothing to do with what someone without that schooling is paid, or should be paid, for their work.

If becoming a doctor required years of schooling, during which time the student paid heavily for the schooling and earned nothing - and ended up having heavy responsibility and stress, but paid the same wages as someone who asks "do you want fries with that?", nobody in his right mind would choose medicine as a profession. We would become a nation of burger flippers with nobody willing to run the infrastructure (medicine, law, teaching, engineering, law enforcement, etc.), and would soon collapse.
---StrongAxe on 5/20/16


This is a humanitarian crisis and the US government along with other countries should at the very least intervene with necessary supplies.
---Lee on 5/19/16


Then you criticize these folks, who by the way work 3 jobs to make ends meet AND more than likely have to pay for their own health care. These are not LAZY people...
---kathr453 on 9/30/15

More and more as I get older, I have the suspicion that I may need to work at FF during my retirement.

I have several friends that work there. I have several friends that work at groceries. I have several friends still working full time while in their 70s.

FF gave me my first "real" job away from home and it may end up being my last "real" job.
---Mark_Eaton on 9/30/15


I repaid my Wonderful Government for my college tuitions in TAXES 5 times over now.

As it should be. They made an INVESTMENT in me./////

Nicole, it doesn't work that way. The ONLY way you could repay the Government is if you took out a Government loan, with interest and repaid the loan. Your taxes did not repay. This might be some fantasy you came up with to justify your own hand out, or a communist philosophy, or maybe a socialist philosophy, but it's not how OUR Government works. Believing you repaid 5 times over does not make it a fact. Only some fantasy you choose to cling to. As long as you hold to fantasy's and not facts, it's useless explaining the difference.
---kathr4453 on 9/30/15


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Nicole, You are the one who said FF workers are lazy, and compared them to YOUR family members YOU keep bringing up here YOU said cheated the system. One has nothing to do with the other. Why you keep throwing THEM in the conversation as a comparison is bazaar. Then you criticize these folks, who by the way work 3 jobs to make ends meet AND more than likely have to pay for their own health care. These are not LAZY people just rolling out of bed. Nor are they trying to scam the system. Stop comparing people you don't even know to your family. The funny part is YOU said some of your family was to PROUD to work at McD's, and would rather scam the system, or live off their parents then work at McD's. You contradict yourself over and over.
---kathr453 on 9/30/15


Nicole, Many do cheat the system...that should make anyone mad, but that YOU KNOW YOUR family has , does not make me mad? It sounds like you're the only one mad here that they have cheated, and you're mad at anyone whether they have cheated or not who has benefited from the Government. But YOU Nicole have benefited from the Government WHEN you clearly said you could have afforded student loans.
Believe it or not the taxes of FF workers PAID for your college education. You need to thank ALL tax payers no matter what they do for giving you a FREE education on their minimum wages. You thanked this beautiful country...WRONG. You should be thanking the WORKING TAX PAYERS, no matter what they do for a living.
---kathr4453 on 9/29/15


Not everyone is able to get free child care (paid for from whatever source). Surely you can tell the difference.---Cluny

In America, YES. Minimum wage workers: single or couples with children can get FREE childcare. Just check in your area. It's there.

Kathr my dear, showing you are mad that I know for a FACT that one can cheat the Government because I have proof in my own family is of NO concern for me.

If I didn't have those family members you called names you would be calling me a LIAR.
SORRY I PROVED I AM NOT A LIAR.
Try again.

I repaid my Wonderful Government for my college tuitions in TAXES 5 times over now.

As it should be. They made an INVESTMENT in me.

America is good to the good and bad.
---Nicole_Lacey on 9/29/15


\\they must pay for child care while working at these low paying jobs.---Cluny

Here is a secret you may not know about this great Country.

They will pay for your child's daycare while you work at these low paying jobs.

People were using that excuse just NOT to work.\\

Nicole, dear soul, I'm not talking about those who will not work.

I'm talking about those who DO work and minimum wage jobs and still have to pay for child care. Not everyone is able to get free child care (paid for from whatever source).

Surely you can tell the difference.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 9/28/15


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I know years ago living in the MW, sons of farmers were to carry on the farm. These boys only went to school the very minimum required. Many were not given a choice. Then in the 80's all those farms were taken over by major corporations, leaving these men without an education, of which many took their own life OR a job at FF.
Your ignorance Nicole is astounding....and offensive.
---kathr4453 on 9/29/15


"Okay, why go to school and study if someone can make as much as me by just rolling out of bed??" Choice, and no one who works is just rolling out of bed in the morning. Going to college was your choice and has nothing to do with those who did not, or could not make that choice, for what ever reason. What a person earns should be based on their contribution, not their education.
Why should a Lawyer or Doctor study night and day if someone can make just as much as them without school?" Because their chosen profession requires a college education, and fulfilling that requirement is their choice, and again, has nothing to do with what someone without that schooling is paid, or should be paid, for their work.
---josef on 9/28/15


Nicole, being offered a scholarship is normally offered through a college, not 100% paid for by the Government...which my dear IS COMMUNISM. It's taking from the rich to give to the poor, using others money. Our GOVERNMENT should not be paying any 100% of anyone's college. BUT if you would have gotten a student loan and paid for even 10%, out of your own pocket, your self righteousness remarks here about FF workers wouldn't have been so offensive. I remember working for 1.75 an hour. But the COL at that time was much different than today. If your 3.30 was below minimum wage, it was illegal to pay you so.
FF workers also do back breaking work.
And if a DR is only made $15 an hour, Which I doubt........
---kathr4453 on 9/28/15


Nicole, you have used your family members often here to prove everyone else is also liars and cheats like you keep,saying they are. Dishonesty may run in families, but to,say everyone is dishonest and lazy again is not FACT, but prejudice. Not everyone who accidentally gets too much money back from a cashier keeps it either.
---kathr453 on 9/28/15


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they must pay for child care while working at these low paying jobs.---Cluny

Here is a secret you may not know about this great Country.

They will pay for your child's daycare while you work at these low paying jobs.

People were using that excuse just NOT to work.

I know because my sister and some cousins of mine were using the programs.
They still didn't want to work.
Another trick was to get your mother to babysit, but tell the Government another lady was babysitting.
So, when the lady got the check you and her split the money even though grandma was doing the babysitting.

This Country gives you free housing, food stamps and child care if you ONLY GO TO SCHOOL.

THEY STILL WON'T GO TO SCHOOL.
---Nicole_Lacey on 9/28/15


Kathr, of course I would have gotten a student loan. When people are offered Scholarships, they should turn it down?

I worked at a nursing home with back breaking work for just $3.30 per hour.
I didn't demand to be paid what a RN makes even through I worked harder than they did.

How is that FAIR?

Okay, why go to school and study if someone can make as much as me by just rolling out of bed??

Life isn't fair.
Why should a Lawyer or Doctor study night and day if someone can make just as much as them without school?

That's Communism.
And that's why Communism doesn't work.
EVERYONE GETS LAZY
---Nicole_Lacey on 9/28/15


\\Anyone who wants $15 an hour just for working at McDonalds is lazy and refuses to study any trade or get a College Degree beside Liberal Arts.
---Nicole_Lacey on 9/15/15\\

The Bible says that withholding the wages of the worker (which includes not paying a just wage) is a sin crying out to heaven for vengeance.

Now, I don't know what a just wage for working in fast food would be as I'm not an economist.

But I DO know that many working in such places are single parents, trying to do the best they can.

In many cases, they must pay for child care while working at these low paying jobs.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 9/27/15


"Anyone who wants $15 an hour just for working at McDonalds is lazy and refuses to study any trade or get a College Degree beside Liberal Arts.
---Nicole_Lacey on 9/15/15"

I will not comment on that statement except to say why would an employee of a billion dollar company not expect to be paid a decent salary for the labor they perform in the building that company? Is their labor worth any less than the college graduates if it is conducive to the building of a lucrative company? The world may consider an education as deserving of higher pay, yet without those willing to produce what education dreams up, those dreams would be useless, not to mention unprofitable.
---josef on 9/28/15


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Anyone who wants $15 an hour just for working at McDonalds is lazy and refuses to study any trade or get a College Degree beside Liberal Arts.
---Nicole_Lacey on 9/15/15

Nicole, sorry but I feel you need to be called out on your comment. If the Government didn't give you a FREE education, would you have gone to college and paid your own college tuition and expenses? If you say YES, then what right did you have morally getting one FREE on other peoples TAXES. If you say NO, wouldn't you consider McD's better than welfare? Have you ever worked in Fast Food in NY? That was passed in NY Nicole where the COL is very high. So those working McD's in NY are still struggling.
---kathr4453 on 9/27/15


Peek-a-boo Cluny!

Rob, I'm hearing 1/3 of those who say they are Syrian are not. THAT is a scary thing. False ID's. I remember YEARS ago many many years ago going to a pop festival in Macon GA, way back in the 70's. Many paid to get in, BUT thousands came and just busted through the gate without paying. They totally trashed the festival and the property and pretty much ruined the whole event just taking what they wanted. It's called lawlessness. I guess it never dawned on anyone that PEACE LOVE DOVE HIPPIES, were capable of such behavior. SURPRISE! Had the organizers had any heads up first, there would have been more security.


A country's first priority is for the safety of their own citizens.
---kathr4453 on 9/26/15


Cluny: Do you feel obligated to respond to 99.99% of the CN blogs? Besides when you're getting your Depends changed, don't they have other activities at the home to peek your interest? You're like a game show contestant, such a Johnny on the spot with the blogs! :D
---Leon on 9/23/15


Since Obama took office over 750,000 people from Muslim counties - mostly from Pakistan, Iran and Iraq - have obtained permanaent residence in the U.S. according to FBI statistics. This does not include the years 2014 and 2015. The FBI also says that more than 3,000 ISIS members may be part of that group.

The refugees entering Europe are grouped as follows: seventy-two percent are male, fourteen percent are female and twelve percent are children. A very small percentage are christian.

It is feared by a few heads of state including the pope that it is a tactic by ISIS to infiltrate the refugees and attack each country from within using lone wolves.
---Steveng on 9/15/15


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The Syrian refugee crisis is one more helluva situation in a world full of hatred & liars (evil people). Yes Rob, having lived abroad for a few years, I'm aware that we Americans do take an awful lot for granted & should be grateful for the gulfs (oceans) that separate us from the rest of the world.

Imagine how chaotic our lives would be if our continent were connected to Europe & Asia? Frankly, if that were so, there probably wouldn't be a USA...
---Leon on 9/15/15


Sorry Rob, but Obama wants chaos and a rebellion before he leave office.

Dividing American into separate teams hasn't caused his desire affects.

So, he needs ISIS in this Country to help FEUL the chaos.

The young Americans really don't know how good it feels to be free in this Country.

Anyone who wants $15 an hour just for working at McDonalds is lazy and refuses to study any trade or get a College Degree beside Liberal Arts.

As Benjamin Franklin said: You have let people live in poverty so they can hate poverty so much to impel THEMSELVES OUT OF POVERTY.
---Nicole_Lacey on 9/15/15


While our liturgical language is English, we have many Arabic-speaking members who came here legally from Syria and Lebanon and Iraq years ago.

Perhaps it might be best if a UN, or better still, EU, military task force were to go to Syria to stabilize it and put an end to the civil war there.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 9/15/15


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