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Explain Acts 1:9-11

Explain Acts 1:9-11. Jesus was somehow taken up into a cloud and vanished out of sight. Was the cloud a portal/doorway into heaven or was there some kind of obscured (hidden) transporter that received Him in the midst of the cloud?

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///Leon, the passage shows "He was taken up", but does say how. [?] This still leaves open the possibility "of [h]is own accord."...I don't see any reason not believe Jesus took Himself up. My point was: Jesus doesn't need a portal, doorway, nor transporter...---micha9344 on 9/25/15///

Mike: Certainly, we all have our opinions. You've expressed yours & I have done the same. I agree Jesus could've very well ascended on His own, but where does Scripture say Jesus took Himself up?
---Leon on 9/25/15


Leon, the passage shows "He was taken up", but does say how.
This still leaves open the possibility "of is own accord."
It doesn't say "by angels", nor "by tractor beam."
I don't see any reason not believe Jesus took Himself up.
I also see that angels, either invisible or unrecorded, could have.
Unrecorded, however, would seem less likely to me.
My point was: Jesus doesn't need a portal, doorway, nor transporter, for He is risen and glorified in body and Spirit, the perfect union which knows no boundaries.
"No boundaries" means no gates nor borders to cross, hence no conveyance needed for those borders.
We will be "taken up" to meet Him in the clouds someday.
---micha9344 on 9/25/15


///"somehow"?
He is Jesus!! You know, walk on water, command the elements, appear in closed rooms. He disappeared into the clouds...He does not need a teleportation device nor transporter of any sort...---micha9344 on 9/21/15///


Mike: Sure, Jesus actively did all those things because He is the risen Son of God. No doubt! Yet, just like He allowed Himself to be lifted up & crucified by the devil, Jesus "allowed" himself to be "taken up" into heaven.

Who & what took Him up? That's the question. Was He transported up" by unseen angels into some kind of heavenly conveyance (cloud) waiting in the atmospheric clouds? Again, that's the question!!!
---Leon on 9/24/15


"Okay, thanks! :) " You are quite welcome:o)
---Josef on 9/24/15


///"Joe: Scripture doesn't say Jesus will return in the same cloud He was taken up." No, It doesn't, however scripture does say He "shall so come in like manner as [the men of Galilee saw] him go into heaven." Act 1:11 And you will notice that I did not say you were incorrect in your view, I simply shared a different view based on what I believe, and why I believe as I do.
---Josef on 9/24/15///

Okay, thanks! :)
---Leon on 9/24/15




"Joe: Scripture doesn't say Jesus will return in the same cloud He was taken up." No, It doesn't, however scripture does say He "shall so come in like manner as [the men of Galilee saw] him go into heaven." Act 1:11 And you will notice that I did not say you were incorrect in your view, I simply shared a different view based on what I believe, and why I believe as I do.
---Josef on 9/24/15


///Leon, the cloud He was taken up in is the same cloud that accompanies Him when he returns...---Josef on 9/21/15///

Joe: Scripture doesn't say Jesus will return in the same cloud He was taken up in. Even though the apostles saw Jesus ascend into the clouds in Earth's atmosphere, is it just possible that the reference to the "clouds of heaven" speaks of some sort of heavenly transport that was hidden, in the clouds, from the view of the the disciples?
---Leon on 9/23/15


We can only surmise the manner in which Jesus returned to His Father but His 2nd coming will be soon and some of us may be among those who are witnesses to the description in Rev. 19:11-21.

"And I saw Heaven opened and, behold a white horse, and He that sat upon it was called, Faithful and True, and in righteousness He does judge and make war. His eyes were like flames of fire, and on His head were many crowns, and He had a name written that no man knew but He, Himself. And He was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood, and His name is called The Word of God...." A very interesting read if anyone wants to read the whole chapter.
---barb on 9/21/15


Leon, the cloud He was taken up in is the same cloud that accompanies Him when he returns. Act 1:10,11. That cloud is called the "clouds of heaven" Mat 24:30>Mat 26:64. The same clouds which brought Him before "the Ancient of days, Da,7:13. And represents that great number of Angels that will accompany Him at his return Mat 25:31>Rev 1:7. "For the Son of man shall come in the glory of his Father with his angels," Mat 16:27>2Th 1:7>Jde 1:14>Mat 24:31. The word cloud as used here, is used in the same way that it is used when referencing the great "cloud of witnesses" in Heb 12:1. Referring to a great number, in His return, a great number moving together in close proximity, as to cover the sky.
---Josef on 9/21/15


"somehow"?
He is Jesus!!
You know, walk on water, command the elements, appear in closed rooms.
He disappeared into the clouds and is now sitting at the right hand of the Father.
He does not need a teleportation device nor transporter of any sort.
All seeing, all knowing, all powerful - the infinite Creator.
---micha9344 on 9/21/15




Or maybe it was an atmospheric cloud into which He disappeared and from which He went into Heaven.

I'm sure we'll get this explained in the World to Come--if we're still interested in this matter.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 9/21/15


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