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Calvanism and Arminianism

Would you say that the writings of John Gill teach Calvanism or do they teach Arminianism or do they teach something else?

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Trey,

Just wondering if were able to read my following questions to you:






Primitive Baptists have been described as Hyper Calvinists is this true?

What is the reason for using real wine southern Baptist reject this practice can you explain??


What led you to become primitive Baptist or was this your up bringing.

---john9346 on 11/18/15


\\What is the reason for using real wine southern Baptist reject this practice can you explain??\\

EVERYBODY used real wine, like Jesus did, before a Methodist minister named Welch developed a way of pasteurizing grape juice.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 10/29/15


Primitive Baptists have been described as Hyper Calvinists is this true?

What is the reason for using real wine southern Baptist reject this practice can you explain??


What led you to become primitive Baptist or was this your up bringing.
---john9346 on 10/29/15


WOW John, you did do some research!

Sunday Schools: As I stated on one of the blogs, Sunday Schools were started in Britain around 1780 to teach children who worked during the week to read. You won't find them in scripture.

Musical Instruments: For the first 500 plus years they were not found in the Christian worship service. Early Christians understood that when Paul wrote to speak to yourselves in "psalms" and hymns and spiritual songs that he meant to sing acapella. At the time Paul wrote Ephesians 5:19 the word "psallo" meant to sing acapella.

---trey on 10/28/15


Trey,

I did some research.


So, the meeting in black rock Maryland had issues with seminaries, and sunday school.

Would you place sunday school and seminaries on the level of sin?

Do you think it is a sin to use Musical Instruments?

Also, Primitive Baptists have been described as Hyper Calvinists your thoughts?

Shouldn't there be a mission board for accountability and directional purposes?

What led you to become primitive Baptist or was this your up bringing.
---john9346 on 10/28/15




John,

1. Nope, I just blog.

2. No, we believe in family worship. The whole family sits together during services.

3. Yes we use real wine during communion. Also most of our churches practice foot washing during communion. The men wash each others feet and the women wash each others feet.

4. We believe in missionary work but we do not believe in a mission board directing a man on where he is to go when doing the Lord's work.
---trey on 10/27/15


\\So, Primitive Baptists do they separate the men and women during services?\\

While this is the custom in Orthodox Churches in Greece and Russia and other non-Chaledonian eastern churches, in the USA it tends to be observed only in monasteries (along with women covering their heads).

Women and men are separated in traditional Synagogues, as well.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 10/27/15


Trey,

I have some questions:



Do you have an account on this website?

So, Primitive Baptists do they separate the men and women during services?

Is it true Primitive Baptists use wine during communion?

Is true that Primitive Baptists do not believe in missions/evangelism?
---john9346 on 10/27/15


Hi John,

I'm Primitive Baptist. We are not the Southern Baptist and we are not reformed. We were first called "Primitive" Baptist by our enemies and the term stuck. It actually means first. You should study about the Primitive Baptist.

Take care my brother.
---trey on 10/26/15


The true church ARE the christians, not a denomination or a building as most Christians perceive the church as being a denomination or a building. True christianity is an individual lifestyle based upon the bible.

The command from God is: "If you love me, keep my commandments." The number one command is LOVE, as in the verb form. Simple, eh? But difficult to apply. And attending a denominational "church" service once a week for an hour doesn't qualify a person as part of the family of God. The "assembly" of christians is any where two or more meet whether at a park, at the local cafe, or in one's home as they did in Jesus' time - on a daily basis (especially in today's world).
---Steveng on 10/26/15




\\I actually have been really studying the reform Baptist, the Southern Baptist Convention it seems is becoming more and more apostate each day that passes.\\

What Southern Baptists are going through now is what most mainline Protestants went through 75-100 years ago.

See what I said to Samuel elsewhere about tradition.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 10/25/15


Yes, John, I think so. Thank you.
---santimoy.kumar on 10/25/15


Trey,

I like the Baptist church are you Southern or reform Baptist brother?


I actually have been really studying the reform Baptist, the Southern Baptist Convention it seems is becoming more and more apostate each day that passes.


Do you have an account on this website or do you just blog?
---john9346 on 10/25/15


Santimoy,

I believe I provided you the Essentials of Christianity do you remember?

Steveng,

The gospel is grace see Eph 2:1-9, and Rom 3:10-26.

Do you know what the meaning of grace is?
---john on 10/25/15


Thank you, Darlene.
---santimoy.kumar on 10/25/15


john9346 wrote "(I)follow the Doctrines of grace which is the gospel... "

The true gospel is NOT grace (or any of the other dozensof "gospels"), but the coming of the Kingdom of God of which Jesus and the apostles taught. They also taught how to get there.

Satan has had over two thousand years to infiltrate and divide christiandom up into a whole lot more than 60,000 worldwide denominations each having their own rituals, traditions, ways of living and interpretations of the bible. Is Christ divided?

Most christians are also adamant about what denomination they belong to. 1 Corinthians 1:11-13, I of Baptist, and I of Catholic, and I of Orthodox, and I of Lutheran, and I of Protestant. Is Christ divided?
---Steveng on 10/25/15


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santimoy.kumar Thank you for the information,I know so little about other religions that I must learn as I meet people who do know. Nice to have you here. Blessings.
---Darlene_1 on 10/24/15


Yes, Darlene. There are many American Vedantists who do not call themselves Hindu.
---santimoy.kumar on 10/24/15


santimoy.kumar then are you a Hindu isn't Vedantist connectedted to that religion. Blessings
---Darlene_1 on 10/24/15


No, trav, not muslim. You could call me a Vedantist perhaps. Yes, I am studying.
---santimoy.kumar on 10/23/15


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It would be helpful if each of you listed the essentials. I could then ask about your differences.
---santimoy.kumar on 10/22/15

We've stated ours. Tell us what god or gods you follow. Are you muslim?
You question us like you are researching for a purpose. Perhaps you are teaching?

Heb 1:14 Are they not all ministering spirits, sent forth to minister for them who shall be heirs of salvation?
---Trav on 10/23/15


---john9346,

I am a Baptist, and I believe a lot like Gill. I agree with him about 95% of the time.

I believe Gill had an excellent understanding of scriptures.


Lord bless you.
---trey on 10/23/15


I thank all of you for your pleasant and interesting responses to my questions. I wish much happiness.
---santimoy.kumar on 10/23/15


There is much misrepresentation of Christianity on this blog and certainly not a place for those seeking to know the truth about my Lord and my God Jesus Christ...
---john9346 on 10/21/15

Hello John.

When I say God, I am referring to the triune God, Father, Son, and Spirit. Even when I say the name of Jesus, He is still the Father's Son, not standing alone as so many want to see Him. He is always in context of the Father's Son, and told us so many times on Earth.

My lament is that so many Christians want to separate Jesus from His Father and to worship Jesus alone. Many continue to believe in the Trinity yet only give lip service to it.
---Mark_Eaton on 10/23/15


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\\Also, I believe your negative comment to me is exactly what Santimoy is referring to.\\

Believe what you will. You do anyway.

santimoy can speak for himself.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 10/22/15


\\There is much misrepresentation of Christianity on this blog...
---john9346 on 10/21/15\\

john's may not be the real one, so beware.
---Cluny on 10/22/15

He warns you of others from his own confusion, but can offer nothing.
Most denoms, avoid these essentials that Christ personally stated and died to enact below.
1. Mat_15:24 But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel.
(He doesn't and didn't fail)
2.Heb_8:8 For finding fault with them, he saith, Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah:
---Trav on 10/22/15


It would be helpful if each of you listed the essentials. I could then ask about your differences.
---santimoy.kumar on 10/22/15


Cluny said, "john, who are you to determine what are the "essentials" and "non-essentials" of Christianity?"

Holy Scripture my friend...

No Christian disagrees with the essentials only the non-essentials..

Also, I believe your negative comment to me is exactly what Santimoy is referring to.
---john9346 on 10/22/15


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\\There is much misrepresentation of Christianity on this blog and certainly not a place for those seeking to know the truth about my Lord and my God Jesus Christ...
---john9346 on 10/21/15\\

john's may not be the real one, so beware.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 10/22/15


john, who are you to determine what are the "essentials" and "non-essentials" of Christianity?

This matter is in itself something upon which Christians disagree.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 10/22/15


Hi Santimoy,

I listed the essentials and non-essentials for you on the blog advantages of Christianity.

What you are experiencing on this blog is most are not Christians my friend.

There are many counterfeits on here.

If you would like more clear teaching about Christianity

google Christian apologetics research ministry (CARM) and also got questions website.

There is much misrepresentation of Christianity on this blog and certainly not a place for those seeking to know the truth about my Lord and my God Jesus Christ...
---john9346 on 10/21/15


John, I do not know what is essential or not essential. But I do observe much strife and bitterness here and I am sad for that.
---santimoy.kumar on 10/21/15


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So, you think strife is discussing non-essentials of Christianity?
---john9346 on 10/21/15


Yes, John, strife among Christians and strife among Indians.
---santimoy.kumar on 10/21/15


Tell me what do you mean by strife in both cases?
---john9346 on 10/21/15


Yes, John, I understand. But much strife in both cases.
---santimoy.kumar on 10/21/15


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Santimoy,

Understand, Christianity is Christianity.

You are either a Christian or not a Christianity.

It is like there are various states, cities, towns, and villages of India,yet, it is still India and the citizens are still Indians although they have different customs/traditions.
---john9346 on 10/21/15


There seem to be so many kinds of Christians.
---santimoy.kumar on 10/20/15


Well Trey,

I doubt seriously you are going to find anyone who know who brother John Gill is.

I value his writings because I am one who affirm and follow the Doctrines of grace which is the gospel...

I am appreciative of his Exposition of the bible he was a Particular Baptist and his writings no doubt reflects his beliefs...

So, I take it are you Reform (Calvinist) Are you a particular Baptist?
---john9346 on 10/20/15


Trey, you and the Moderator should both know that the word is spelled "Calv**I**nism." (no asterisks or intercapping, of course).

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 10/20/15


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