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I'm now retired and worked for various Government Agencies for over 40 years. the years as a Christian, We were prohibited from having prayer groups and Bible Study.

Yet we were forced to provide and maintain a place where Muslims could say their daily prayers toward Mecca.

Why is this?

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StrongAxe. Nazi means SOCIALIST German Workers Party. Nazism/SOCIALISM is clearly Leftist ideology.

NurseRob. Your typical abusive Leftist style has long been seen here on CN so I'm not surprised by your tactics. I see you totally missed/avoided the point in my post, and you still avoid answering my questions.

Cluny. I checked again. That quote was definitely yours. You can't hide from it.

Samuelbb7. Love for others does not mean, as you naively suggest, that we should embrace evil political agendas that bring murder, rape, pedophilia, terrorism, racism, misogyny, hate, persecution, discrimination, etc, as has already been proven. Why do you ignore the real victims? What is it about love that you fail to comprehend?
---Haz27 on 4/10/16


Many, many, years ago when I was inducted into the Army, we had to declare if we were Protestant, Catholic, Jewish, or Other.

I declared myself to be other, because I'm not Protestant, Catholic, or Jewish. I'm a Christian.

Isn't it interesting, being a Christian, was not a choice that was given???
---Rob on 4/10/16


It's interesting to see the Leftists here deflect attention away from real issues.

The openly stated Marxist agenda of indoctrinating school children with twisted LGBT ideals is covered up by Leftists here on CN using tactics such as obfuscation, ad hominem attacks, and deflection to irrelevant issues.

Likewise the issue of the rise of anti-Christ Islamofacism in the West, with its murder, racism, pedophilia, hate, persecution, misogyny, etc, is covered up with the hypocritical Left's typical deceitful misuse of ideals they really oppose, like love/compassion/tolerance.

Like the apologists for the rise of Nazism in the 1930's, we see today history repeating itself with Leftist's defending the rise of hate and evil.
---Haz27 on 4/10/16


Darlene: God bless you. Unfortunately, most of the younger generation has no idea of the evil that left-wing ideology has caused in the world. For the past 100 years, the political concept of a left-wing, iron-fisted, socialist government controlling individuals "for the greater good" has brought worldwide destruction, poverty, and the murder of at least 120 million innocent citizens (besides those killed by starvation, war, diseases, etc.).

Meanwhile, the American-inspired free market capitalist system brought the world industry, television, nuclear power, antibiotics, space travel, GPS, internet, etc., etc., etc. Thus the fruits of these two systems are on display for anyone with the courage to look.

---jerry6593 on 4/10/16


What misleading narrative is that, HAZ? The one that I asked you if you follow the laws in Leviticus since you choose to claim Lev 20:13? If 20:13 is to be followed, shouldn't we then follow all of them? Or do we get to pick and choose?

I spend most of my time reading the posts on CN and trying to learn something. It's unfortunate that, with your angry, attacking demeanor, there is little I can learn from you.
---NurseRobert on 4/9/16




Haz27, I know you want credit for it, but you did not GIVE any quotes from me.

Now, if you have any, for my benefit, give them now.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 4/9/16


NurseRob. Lev 19:33 refers to "sojourners" (staying only TEMPORARILY). You cannot use that to support the Leftist's selfish agenda to use immigration to build up their own voting base, divisive race baiting, and destroying national identity to make way for one world government.

Regarding the law you referred to, you forget the law is our tutor to lead us to Christ(Gal 3:25). The law represents the principles of God. But flesh cannot keep them perfectly, thus we needed Christ. But that does not then mean that LGBT should be embraced as wholesome, as the Leftist bullies demand.

Re the love scriptures you misunderstand. You wrongly use them to justify the agenda of the ANTI-CHRIST Islamists and their Leftist enablers.
---Haz27 on 4/9/16


Darlene_1:

Nazism was an extreme right-wing, not left-wing ideology. Extremes on either side are destructive. Left-wing ideology paints the state as mother, and citizens as incompetent children, who must be nannied, and can't be trusted to take care of themselves, nor make their own decisions. Right-wing ideology says citizens are adults, and must take care of themselves, and shouldn't be coddled. The nazis had the concept of "useless eaters" - i.e. euthanizing the sick, old, and mentally incompetent because they were no longer useful to society, and couldn't care for themselves. This is the epitome of right-wing "survival of the fittest, and no mercy to anyone else" ideology, and the antithesis of left-wing coddling.
---StrongAxe on 4/9/16


NurseRob. Re your claim I've not answered your question about what is Marxist agenda, I wonder are you lying or are you so blinded by Leftist propaganda that you can't comprehend anything that contradicts Leftist dogma?

I said many times that Marxist Roz Ward claimed she developed the Safe Schools program (of LGBT indoctrination of school children), with the express purpose of furthering Marxism in schools. Is this CLEARLY stated agenda not clear for you?
This agenda is consistent with the CIA's findings decades ago (see book "The Naked Communist"), about the goals of Communists. Their goals, apart from infiltrating and dominating media, Hollywood, universities, etc, was to promote degeneracy and LGBT as wholesome.
---Haz27 on 4/9/16


Haz do you Love Muslims, LGBT people and those you oppose?

Matthew 5:44
But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you,
Luke 6:27,28

But I say unto you which hear, Love your enemies, do good to them which hate you,
Bless them that curse you, and pray for them which despitefully use you.

If not then you aren't following Jesus and should quit calling yourself a Christian.

Also do you help the poor the widowed and those who need help?

Do you follow Jesus or not?
---Samuelbb7 on 4/9/16




Monk_B. Like I said, rather than substantiating your unfounded claims, you instead resorted to attacking my character alleging fear, and disliking RC. That's ad hominem.

Cluny. You missed or avoided my post (4/8/16) showing your quotes supporting LGBT.

NurseRob. I said "I don't know if you're a Christian", then you change this to fit your misleading narrative. Christians here regularly quote scripture (because we study 2Tim 2:15) but as you rarely talk scripture, then that gives cause to wonder where you stand. But it was good to see you quote so many in your last post. That would be a record for you. Probably more scriptures in one post than you gave in all your combined posts over several years.
---Haz27 on 4/9/16


Haz27 quoted me saying, "Such fear and anger about something you know very little about must be oppressive. Cast off that demon of fear. 4/3/16
you don't like Catholics, either. OOOps! Never mind.4/7/16"


First of all, Haz, Ad hominem, short for argumentum ad hominem, is a logical fallacy in which an argument is rebutted by attacking the character, motive, or other attribute of the person making the argument...rather than attacking the substance of the argument itself.

I have not attacked you at all. Rather, I have asked you to pull yourself out of fear, into God's love.

And from the general input of your posts, you do not like the Catholic Church, and would hate living in the Vatican.
---Monk_Brendan on 4/9/16


Haz27 The trouble with people being taken in by Communism and other Left Politics is that many are too young to remember the evil such Politics bring. I remember Hitler,the Gas Chambers,the News Reels of the skin and bones people freed from Concentration camps. I remember in Russia the lack of food and the long lines to buy just a loaf of bread. I remember missiles in Cuba and me packing food,blankets and all needed things for our family of four in the trunk of my car,ready to evacuate Killeen,Tx because the missiles were trained on the Atomic Stock Pile at Grey Air Force Base. I hate how people are taken in by lies of the left because they are ignorant of it's real evil. I saw it,its Hell on earth.
---Darlene_1 on 4/9/16


\\Cluny. Why do you defend the Marxist agenda to indoctrinate school children LGBT ideals?\\

And when will you provide proof I have done so, Haz27?

Accusation, even repeated over and over again, is not proof.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 4/8/16


Monk_B. Here's your quotes. Such fear and anger about something you know very little about must be oppressive. Cast off that demon of fear. 4/3/16
you don't like Catholics, either. OOOps! Never mind.4/7/16


Rather than substantiate your claims you instead made ad hominem attacks that I have fear, anger, don't like RC.

Leftists and Islamists do the same. When you oppose the ideals of LGBT or Islamists, you're accused of a phobia (irrational FEAR). As for I don't like RC allegation, we see similar from Leftists & Islamists claiming we hate/don't like Muslims if we oppose Islam. But my parents are RC. I have RC friends. What's the basis of your false allegation? I only oppose RC doctrine.

---Haz27 on 4/9/16


Haz. You love Lev 20:13 . Tell us, do you cut your hair. God told you in Leviticus 19:27 not to. Do you wear glasses? You need to stay away from the alter (Lev 21:20). How bout your cotton/polyester shirts? (Lev 19:19). You seem to have an issue with immigrants, but doesn't Lev 19:33 tell you to treat them as one of your own?

I'm not a Christian because I don't quote scripture? That is one of the most laughable statements you have ever made.

How bout Matt 7:1, or how bout John 15:12? The one that seems to fit you best is 1 John 4:20-21. Perhaps I'm more concerned with Matthew 25:35-40.

You still haven't answered the questions..
---NurseRobert on 4/9/16


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Haz said, "Monk_B. ...then resorted to ad hominem attacks when confronted with facts. This is the trademark style of deceitful Leftists.
I suggest you drop these deceitful tactics and adopt honest, rational style instead."


I had a dear old friend of mine (Swedish by birth) constantly telling me how wonderful Sweden was. He also put down the government of the USA at the same time. I finally shut him up when I said to him, "Gus, if you love Sweden so much, why not move back there?" His reply was that there was no work for him there, and there was here.

I rarely stoop to ad hominem attacks, especially on these blogs. Please cut and paste postings to you from me that include such attacks.
---Monk_Brendan on 4/8/16


Cluny. Why do you defend the Marxist agenda to indoctrinate school children LGBT ideals?
BTW, is Lev 20:13 not clear to you?

StrongAxe. True, ad hominem attacks are a tactic used by some from all persuasions. But it's the Left, through their dominance of media, universities, etc, who are renowned for it as they've used it so successfully to bully society with their political correctness.

Darlene. True, we're not to judge each other. Sadly, though, the Left are bullying and brainwashing societies to submit to their PC ideals. Christians should oppose the Marxist indoctrination of children with their LGBT ideals, etc. Sadly some Christians would rather defend the Left's twisted agenda.



---Haz27 on 4/8/16


\\Cluny. Give us the Blog Topic where our debate started so we all can see your posts. \\

Haz27, YOU were the one who made the accusation against me.

Therefore YOU have the responsibility to marshal the evidence, not I.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 4/8/16


\\Haz: Don't you find it strange that supposed Christians could defend the anti-biblical LGBT lifestyle? \\

What is this lifestyle, jerry?

Besides, that passage from Leviticus that Haa27 quoted is not part of the decalogue, therefore according to you, it's merely Moses's idea.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 4/8/16


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I will not judge Gays,I have two cousins who are that way and I love them anyway but don't condone it. It's God's job to judge which He already has done in the Bible. Romans 1:26-28 (Paraphrased)Men shall not lie with men as with women nor shall women lie with women as with men it's an abomination to God and He turns them over to a reprobate mind. I know it is popular to say it is not a choice they are born that way but if thats true why would God call it an abomination and say He had given them over to a reprobate mind. No it is sin in God's eyes and all people have the choice to sin or live for God. You can't do both. It's 100% sold out to God or nothing righteous. Revelations says be hot or cold if lukewarm God will spew you out of His mouth.
---Darlene_1 on 4/8/16


Hypocrisy. Double standard. Do as I say, but not as I do. The government has quadruple standards. The government discriminates all the time, yet in being diversified, it will deny it discriminates.
---mike4879 on 4/8/16


Don't you find it strange that supposed Christians could defend the anti-biblical LGBT lifestyle? -jerry6593

True. We all know about the tyranny of the Left's political correctness that the silent majority have been oppressed with. Yet some here can't connect the dots to see that their arguments in support of LGBT, etc, matches the Leftist PC brainwashing they've received through the media, etc.

StrongAxe. Good scripture. Note the context refers to the kingdom of God (Luke 17:20) at the end where the remaining Christians are taken up, but the lost (those in unbelief, having trusted in their own righteousness, Luke 18:9-14) remain.
Verse 34 does NOT, however, mean a man laying with a man, AS HE WOULD WITH A WOMAN.
---Haz27 on 4/8/16


Haz27:

You wrote: Monk_B. You consistently failed to substantiate your unfounded claims, and then resorted to ad hominem attacks when confronted with facts. This is the trademark style of deceitful Leftists.

Actually, this is a trademark of deceitful people, whether they are on the left or right (and there are plenty on both sides).

I already quoted Lev 20:13 if a man lies with another man, then it's abomination.

Luke 17:34: I tell you, in that night there shall be two men in one bed, the one shall be taken, and the other shall be left.

Clearly, on the day of judgment these two men have different fates. How do you interpret this?
---StrongAxe on 4/8/16


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Cluny. Found your old posts. TOPIC: Critical Issues facing U.S. YOU SAID
How do you know that YOUR view is not the twisted one Haz. Sexual orientation is NOT something that is chosen.-Cluny 3/13

That's your PC reply to my opposition to indoctrinating school children with LGBT ideals, such as:
Gender identities ("Boy" or "girl") are not PC and anyone who uses such terms is vilified as a "heterosexist".
Children are to imagine themselves dating someone of the same gender they're attracted to.
Children are provided web links to erotic toy shops, etc.

How do I know my view is not twisted? Read Lev 20:13 and take up your PC allegation that God's view is "twisted", with Him.
---Haz27 on 4/8/16


Haz: Don't you find it strange that supposed Christians could defend the anti-biblical LGBT lifestyle? Kinda makes one wonder........


---jerry6593 on 4/8/16


Monk_B. You consistently failed to substantiate your unfounded claims, and then resorted to ad hominem attacks when confronted with facts. This is the trademark style of deceitful Leftists.
I suggest you drop these deceitful tactics and adopt honest, rational style instead.

To correct your latest false claim, many Australians do hate the 3 major political parties here. We also hate the Leftist dominated media, Humanities faculties at universities, Human Rights commission, as its such thought police who bully and deceive society under their PC tyranny.
If you weren't so brainwashed you would see these realities like so many of us in the West have seen and oppose.

BTW, I'm ex-RC. I know what they're like.
---Haz27 on 4/7/16


Cluny. Give us the Blog Topic where our debate started so we all can see your posts.
BTW, why cast doubt about what is LGBT lifestyle. Why use similar tactics as Satan who said to Eve "hath God said?".
I already quoted Lev 20:13 if a man lies with another man, then it's abomination. Is this too ambiguous for you? Has Leftist brainwashing confused you that much?

Monk_B. Re your falsehood that I hate RC, my recent posts defended RC Cardinel Pell who was being deceitfully vilified by Leftists in Australia. Tsk, tsk, Monk_B.

NurseRob, CN's Lefty zealot. I don't even know if you're Christian because you rarely, if ever, quote scriptures. You probably don't even know what the good fight of faith is about (1Tim 6:12)?
---Haz27 on 4/7/16


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Good point Monk Brendan.
---Samuelbb7 on 4/7/16


\\Any professing Christian who argues like you in support for an openly Marxist agenda\\

Please tell me how I've argued in support of it by quoting (ideally cutting and pasting) my exact words, giving the dates I said these things.


Cluney I'm not convinced Haz knows just WHAT is a "Marxist Agenda" He has yet to define any agenda when asked. Its a buzz word for him and means nothing.
---NurseRobert on 4/7/16


Haz27 said, "Other Marxist dominated institutions here include Human Rights Commissions, Safe Schools Coalition, etc, all used to manipulate and bully society."

Haz27, you have been ranting against me and everyone else who even tries to correct you. You seem to hate the government of the country you are in.

I take it that you would rather have the government run as a Christian benign tyranny.

There is such a country. It's called the Holy See (Vatican)...oh that's right, you don't like Catholics, either. OOOps! Never mind.
---Monk_Brendan on 4/7/16


\\Haz being passionate is not a fence straddler\\
You can be passionately wrong, too.
---Cluny on 4/6/16

Can be. You haven't passionately proved he is. There is no water delivered with your daily squalls.
Isa 41:14 Fear not, thou worm Jacob, ye men of Israel, I will help thee, saith the LORD, thy redeemer, the Holy One of Israel.
Isa 41:15 Behold, I will make thee a new sharp threshing instrument having teeth: thou shalt thresh the mountains, beat them small, shalt make the hills as chaff.
Isa 41:16 ...glory in the Holy One of Israel.
Isa 41:17 When the poor and needy seek water, and there is none, their tongue faileth for thirst, I the LORD will hear them, I the God of Israel will not forsake them.
---Trav on 4/7/16


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\\Any professing Christian who argues like you in support for an openly Marxist agenda\\

Please tell me how I've argued in support of it by quoting (ideally cutting and pasting) my exact words, giving the dates I said these things.

\\ (as confessed by Roz Ward, the Marxist who leads it) to indoctrinate school children with twisted LGBT lifestyles\\

What are LGBT lifestyles? How do they differ from your own?

As far as dealing with mahometanism, we Orthodox have been their victims for centuries.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 4/7/16


you can be passionately wrong, too---Cluny.

Yes Cluny, wrong you are, and delusionally so.
Any professing Christian who argues like you in support for an openly Marxist agenda (as confessed by Roz Ward, the Marxist who leads it) to indoctrinate school children with twisted LGBT lifestyles, etc, can only be described as a delusional, " brainwashed useful idiot" for the Communist Left.

I guess you also think Islamic terrorist attacks, havent got anything to do with Islam either.

And of course all those ever growing worldwide protest rallies and political opposition against Islamofascists and their Leftist enablers, doesn't really exist in your closed minded Leftist Safe Place, does it?
---Haz27 on 4/6/16


\\Haz being passionate is not a fence straddler or lukewarm. Being passionate and truthful are the two things that annoy you and your bud's.\\

You can be passionately wrong, too.
---Cluny on 4/6/16


Haz, ... everyone who doesn't agree with you that the goblins are gonna git us.
---Cluny on 4/4/16

Haz being passionate is not a fence straddler or lukewarm. Being passionate and truthful are the two things that annoy you and your bud's. Takes all three of you to ride the fence. You're the only goblin that is protesting and defending gobbler abominations.
Rev_3:16 So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth.
---Trav on 4/6/16


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This year Australia will have elections. And in neighboring Indonesia, Muslim illegal immigrants are growing in number getting ready to come over should Australia's Communist/Leftists win office.

Last time when Leftist's won office they promised to maintain the conservatives successful border policy, but that was proven a lie as later they weakened, allowing the illegal immigrants over.

1100 illegal immigrants drowned coming over and the heartless Leftists had no remorse for these deaths they caused.
And of course the Leftist dominated media hid the extent of harm the Left had caused.

But when the conservative government took office the Leftist media then blamed the harm caused by the Left, upon conservatives instead.
---Haz27 on 4/5/16


Muslims, like Communists/Democrats, think that the end justifies the means. They all have no moral compass-jerry6593

True.
Like the example I gave to Monk_B, Leftists here aggressively vilify a RCC Archbishop who was a pioneer at dealing with pedophile clergy decades ago, in an era when perpetrators were considered more credible than their victims, BUT these same heartless Leftists ignore the pedophilia that is happening right now in Aboriginal communities.

Whilst "moderate" Muslims are reluctant to resort to the terrorism of fundamentalist Muslims, they do share the same mindset, as found through research by Clive Kessler, emeritus professor of sociology and anthropology at the University of NSW.

---Haz27 on 4/4/16


Haz: About 10 years ago, I worked a consulting job in California with a PhD Muslim from Egypt who was a big shot at the local mosque. We worked closely together for about two years, and I thought we were friends and that I knew him pretty well.

One day at lunch I asked him his opinion of the Palestinian bombing of a school bus full of Israeli children. I was shocked at his answer. He thinks they are justified. So Muslims, like Communists/Democrats, think that the end justifies the means. They all have no moral compass.



---jerry6593 on 4/4/16


Jerry. One of my Asian Muslim friends claimed middle eastern Muslims are crazy.
An Iranian friend claimed that from Pakistan through to north Africa, the culture is one of victimhood where they all blame others for any problem.

This victimhood culture works well for deceitful Leftists who often create "victims" out of nothing just to be used as propaganda tools for their political gain.

Sadly, I've found when inviting moderate Muslims to join protest rallies opposing the Islamist agenda, they refuse.
Whilst they admit the Islamists who are in the driving seat of Islam are bad, they're too scared and/or too ignorant of Islam to be able to challenge it for the reform towards secularism that Islam desperately needs.
---Haz27 on 3/31/16


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Haz: Good stuff! I too am weary of the apologies made for the murderous ideology that is called "the religion of peace". Most don't realize that the terrorist bombers are not a "radicalized" lunatic fringe of the great religion of Islam, but are rather the loyal adherents to their founding document - the Koran (I don't care how they want it spelled).

Thus, it is the religion itself that is defective - not a few loose cannons.

Most people also do not know that Muslims marry first cousins. This inbreeding explains a lot in their twisted behavior.




---jerry6593 on 3/31/16


Samuel. To the Marxists who dominate the Left, and also their Islamofascist allies, any valid criticism of Islam with it's racism, pedophilia, misogyny, hate, terrorism, genocide, etc is deceitfully labelled as "hate". I suggest you stop believing such lies.

Why would you want to ignore the rape, pedophilia, murder, misogyny, terrorism, racism, etc, that Islam brings to the West?

Did you know Christian and Yazidi refugees don't even go to U.N refugee camps because Muslims at those camps attack them there to?

In the 1930's the West had it's apologists for the rise of Hitler's Nazism, and now we see history repeating itself where Leftists defend Islam and attack any critics of it's evil.
---Haz27 on 3/30/16


Samuel, regarding your misuse of Matt 5, "doing good" does not mean perpetuating deceitful propaganda of hateful Leftists and anti-Christ Islamists who seek to destroy the West.

Consider the Boston bomber Tsarnaev, who received "good" when applying for citizenship in U.S. He was believed by the authorities when he swore allegiance to U.S, denying any links to terrorism. He was helped by authorities who waived immigration application fees because he was struggling financially. Yet he took advantage of this "good" to kill innocent people.
Consider also 1960's Christian Lebanon "doing good" taking in Muslim "refugees" who then started civil war slaughtering Christians.
---Haz27 on 3/30/16


I support valid criticism of Islam. Not hate filled rants based on fear.

I said one of my news sources is from Israel. I don't just follow American news.

Many right and left wing sources go to the extreme.

I look to Jesus as my guide to how I react.

I oppose letting children die out of fear.

Isis murders Muslims who don't agree with them. Yet many want to murder or let die the same people Isis wants to murder. How does that make sense?
---Samuelbb7 on 3/30/16


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Samuelbb7. You have been deceived by Leftist and Islamist propaganda.

The Left and their Islamist allies are hateful fascists who dominate the news media narrative in the West. And their deceitful message, which you sadly believe, is that any valid criticism of Islam is somehow "hate".

BTW, I never said Israel supports Islam.

I note your claim that Muslims are "victims" is consistent with Leftist and Islamist propaganda.
We saw that here in Australia during the Lindt Cafe Muslim terrorist attack in Sydney, when narcissistic Leftists tweeted to each other a message supporting Muslims as the victims, WHILST THE TRUE VICTIMS WERE STILL BEING HELD HOSTAGE IN THE CAFE WHERE LATER 2 OF THEM WERE KILLED.
---Haz27 on 3/30/16


I am really sorry to hear your words. First Israel does not support Islam and I listen to their reports almost daily.

I am opposed to Satan who supports and spreads hate. Islam is a false religion. But we will not defeat it by using the tools of Satan. Nor by giving into the wiles of the Devil to believe his lies.

You will not hear the words of truth. Until you see that love not hate is the true answer. Till you follow the words of Jesus.

Matthew 5:44
But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you,
---Samuelbb7 on 3/29/16


Jerry6593. In another blog you stated people cannot be Christians and vote democrats.

I understand your point as the Democrats are such a corrupt, bigoted, deceitful, and godless political party that no informed rational Christian would vote for them if they knew the truth. Sadly there are Christians who do support the Dems as they are ignorant of the truth.

I hear that some liberals are now beginning to realize what the DEMS has become, but it's now too late as liberals no longer have a voice in the DEM's.

I hear the U.K has the same problem. The British Labor party has become such extremists that liberals there don't even want to vote any longer as their traditional political party has become so extremist.
---Haz27 on 3/29/16


Samuel. I was referring to the terrorist attacks in Australia as being all perpetrated by those from "refugee" backgrounds. CN word limits restrict further detail sometimes, hence I hoped you would know I referred to "here" as in Australia.

Your defense of Leftist and Islamist deceitful propaganda suggests you have been swayed by their lies.

The reality which you seek to hide is that Islam is a hateful, fascist ideology that should be rejected just as Nazism is rejected.

Leftist and Islamist propaganda deceitfully links any valid criticism of Islam as being hate against Muslims. Only the gullible, naive, and of course Leftists and Islamists themselves would follow such lies.
---Haz27 on 3/28/16


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If memory serves me the Boston bombers and the military man were born here. I will to check it out.

During WWII German Jews were not allowed into the U.S
For fear they were for Hitler. Many more Muslims have been executed by Isis. I get reports from an Israeli news source. They put on how many Muslim sects are murdered.

It's Arabic Muslims who are generally targeted for hatred. But you can call it religious persecution if you prefer.

After all it should be okay to persecute religious people.

What harm can reviving hatred of religious people cause?
---Samuelbb7 on 3/28/16


Samuel. Your concern about hate against Muslims is based on the lies Muslims and their Leftist allies allege.
Note also how they deceitfully allege racism when Islam is not even a race.

The mistake you make in trusting such deceitful propaganda is that the true victims are mostly overlooked and the ugly truth about Islam is subdued such that Islam is protected from any need to reform.
Islamists dont want reform. They rightly see reform as an attempt to weaken their religion.

BTW, all the Muslim terrorist attacks here came from "refugees".
Islam's terrorism, it's rape culture, supremacism and anti-Christ doctrine shoud not be discounted as acceptable losses just so that the gospel can be preached to Muslims.
---Haz27 on 3/28/16


Samuel. Part 1: Marxists are very much alive and even dominate mainstream media and humanities faculties at universities, etc.
They refer to themselves these days as "Progressives", but they're also known as "Leftists", and "cultural Marxists".
Some liberals have recognized this and have distanced themselves from the likes of DEM's etc.

The woman who developed the sick LGBT Safe Schools Coalition here in Australia is a Marxist and was even found to be bragging at a Marxist convention that the purpose of the Safe Schools Coalition was to further instill Marxist ideology in schools.

The Leftist portrayal that Muslims are victims is merely Marxist deceit for political gain.



---Haz27 on 3/27/16


Part 2:Communists such as Rudi Dutschke, Antonio Gramsci, etc, led the Communist Left on the LONG MARCH infiltrating institutions, aimed at subverting society.

A CIA member confirmed this in his 1958 book "The Naked Communist" in which he listed CIA findings about Communist Goals, which included infiltrating news media, Hollywood, universities, churches, at least one major political party, to manipulate society. Their goals also included making degeneracy and LGBT lifestyles normal and healthy. Look today and we see they've succeeded.

This was also confirmed by Russian KGB Communist defector Yuri Bezmanov who said his former comrades were amazed at how successful the Communists efforts at undermining the West had gone.
---Haz27 on 3/28/16


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Marxist very rarely exist nowadays. Most of them died out in the 60's. Much less after Reagan helped us win the cold war.

Speaking of them reminds me of the old song on >I oppose Islamic Fanatics. Who are murdering people and destroying history. I don't however oppose all the people trying to run from them.

In World War II the U.S. stopped letting German Jews in since they hated Germans and Jews.

I oppose hatred. Christians have prayed for ages to be able to witness to Muslims. When they come here we can witness to them. I have personally done so. We can show them that Christians are not the haters the Islamic fanatics have told them we are.

AGape
---Samuelbb7 on 3/27/16


Samuel, you messed up AGAIN! :)
It's the Leftist/Marxists who push the lie that people are overreacting to Islam's agenda.
Why follow such deceit?

The truth is there's no overreaction to Islamofascism, just as those opposing the rise of Hitler's Nazism in 1930's were not overreacting.

The Marxists seek to destroy the West's Christian heritage, and they're using Muslims to help. Hence why these 2 totalitarian ideologies are allies.

In the West we're starting to see a growing call to oppose the evils of Islamofascism and their Marxist allies who deceitfully claim we're overreacting if we oppose their agendas.
I suggest you don't become an apologist for Islams agenda with its anti-Christ doctrine (1John 2:22).
---Haz27 on 3/26/16


Well I apparently really missed up. Since you got something I didn't mean to say out of my words.

I meant that people are so scared of Muslims they over react. We as Christians are to love all people.
---Samuelbb7 on 3/26/16


Samuel. Where do you get the idea Christians want to kill liberal's? You sound like a liberal resorting to their trademark victimhood tactic.

In the real world, however, it's the liberals who are the bullying Fascists, attacking anyone who opposes their totalitarian, godless agenda. It's the liberals who dominate mainstream media, universities, etc, using these positions to deceive, manipulate and bully society. Some liberals have even called for execution or prison for those who reject the man made global warming scam.

BTW, whilst Christians are always to trust in God through tribulations, my concern is why you seem to be excusing the evil of the Marxist Left rather than recognizing it as the source of the Wests problems?
---Haz27 on 3/25/16


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A few hundred years ago Protestants were feared and hunted down and killed by the thousands. A few decades ago Jews and many Christians were hunted down and murdered by Nazi's.

Now I see people in their fear wanting to kill others instead of wanting them to come to Jesus. There are Liberals who are Christians and Atheist Liberals who hate Christians. They are not the same.

What did Jesus say we are to do.

Matthew 5:44
But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you,

I will not let fear and hatred control me. Jesus is to be our LORD. Agape
---Samuelbb7 on 3/25/16


Israel/Christians are the ones under attack---Trav

True. In the West it's the liberal Left who are always attacking Christianity and Judaism.

This hate from the Left is due to the cultural Marxists who control the Left.

A recent example in Australia I saw was a news report about the Muslim terrorist attack in Brussels where a conservative politician was described as a hater because they correctly linked the terrorist attack with Islam.

Our news media is dominated by the Marxist Left, who are renowned for being apologists for Islam with all its atrocities, whilst they constantly attack anything Christian/Jewish.
The Left and Islamofascists are allies using each other to destabilize Western societies.
---Haz27 on 3/25/16


Trav/That's correct, it's the liberal/Left who are at the forefront, along with their Islamofascist allies, trying to destabilize Western countries.
...saw another typical aggressive attack by Lefty Fascists here in Australia against the office of a conservative politician opposing the LGBT agenda to manipulate school children with their twisted LGBT lusts through the MARXIST Safe Schools Coalition.
---Haz27 on 3/22/16

Clearly seen if one is noting the aggressive marks, is that "sheep", being what GOD called the largest lost House of Israel/Christians are the ones under attack.
There is no such thing as an Attack Sheep. It is the dogs/wolves who attack.
Sheep are defenseless in the long run without a shepherd.
---Trav on 3/23/16


"You and your non native liberal ilk are exactly what is wrong with this country"---Trav

That's correct, it's the liberal/Left who are at the forefront, along with their Islamofascist allies, trying to destabilize Western countries.

There's even a growing number of liberals now beginning to recognize that the cultural Marxists have taken control of the liberal/Left, bullying society under their tyranny of political correctness.

We recently saw another typical aggressive attack by Lefty Fascists here in Australia against the office of a conservative politician opposing the LGBT agenda to manipulate school children with their twisted LGBT lusts through the MARXIST Safe Schools Coalition.

---Haz27 on 3/22/16


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Nicole_Lacey:...
I stepped on that black mat placed for only Muslims.

In other words, you chose to show contempt for the beliefs of people who did not share your beliefs, ...
---StrongAxe on 12/14/15

You and your non native liberal ilk are exactly what is wrong with this country right now. Confusion. You have so much respect for all gods that it is not evident who you believe in.
Lacy has battle passion, you have fear.
Psa_97:10 Ye that love the LORD, hate evil: he preserveth the souls of his saints, he delivereth them out of the hand of the wicked.
Psa_118:7 The LORD taketh my part with them that help me: therefore shall I see my desire upon them that hate me.
Psa_129:5 Let them all be confounded...
---Trav on 3/22/16


Nicole, in a lot of places in Europe Muslims are using Catholic churches that have closed and now they are teaching centers for them. It is going to be a big problem here in the states. No one believes that but wait until they begin to go into government. Just look at Obama, he is a follower of the Palestinian's. And really an enemy to Israel. And now with all the Muslim's coming into the country, pretty soon many of them will be in our government. This country is going to the dogs.
---Luke on 3/22/16


The reason why various government agencies and other institutions in society follow the extremism of political correctness is due to the Communist Left.

Communists the likes of Rudi Dutschke and his mentor Antonio Gramsci, led the Communist Left through the LONG MARCH infiltrating institutions with the aim of subverting society, setting it up for an eventual Communist takeover.

The Communists (also referred to as Cultural Marxists) have infiltrated most of the DEMS (in Australia we have the ALP and the Greens), and to a lesser extent GOP (in Australia we have the LNP).

Other Marxist dominated institutions here include Human Rights Commissions, Safe Schools Coalition, etc, all used to manipulate and bully society.
---Haz27 on 3/19/16


One of the best examples of government agencies pushing politically correct racism towards whites was seen in Rotherham in U.K.

Over 12 years around 1200 white girls (around 11 years old), from disadvantaged troubled families, were systematically raped by Muslims WITH THE KNOWLEDGE OF POLICE AND GOVERNMENT AUTHORITIES.

One council worker who tried to get these Muslim rapists charged was even told to back off by their superior, and then was sent off to cultural awareness training.

The reason why Muslims get such privileges is because it fits the agenda of the heartless Progressives/Cultural Marxists, who dominate the liberal Left (and to a lessor extent even so called conservative parties like GOP).



---Haz27 on 3/16/16


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In Australia the hospital prayer room is shared by various religions, BUT separate from this a MUSLIM ONLY prayer room. On this the Leftist dominated mainstream media and politicians, remain silent.

We also see the police and Leftist dominated mainstream media trying to hide the brutal attacks by African Muslim immigrants against random whites.

Also we have Aborigines fighting with black immigrant groups like pacific islanders or African immigrants. And again it's all kept quiet by the Leftist dominated mainstream media and politicians.

But if an Australian flies an Australian flag the Leftist dominated mainstream media proclaims it might be racist to do so.
That's the Fascist liberal/Left for you.



---Haz27 on 3/6/16


The Left's political correctness is a deliberate effort at fracturing society.

Here in Australia one university I know of has a MUSLIM ONLY toilet.

And recently Uni students were barred from using a student computer room simply because they were white.
It was an ABORIGINAL ONLY computer room thus only those with at least some fraction of Aboriginality could use it.

These white students posted on FB their shock at the apartheid they experienced and in response they were promptly sued under our loopy-Left racial discrimination laws for offending the racist Aboriginal staff member who enforced the apartheid that barred them from using the computer room.

Such is the lunacy of the Fascist liberal/Left Progressives.
---Haz27 on 3/5/16


God bless you (c: Jesus Christ is the Lord of all > He's got it all. So, secular people can't be expected to do what is right. However, our Apostle Paul clearly does say the secular authority person is "God's minister to you for good", in Romans 13:1-4. So, with God we use secular people for His good, howsoever God creates His good.

How do you think it was for Joseph? Genesis 37-50 Yet, Joseph was used by God to do all-loving good, not only to get what was for himself. He brought about family caring and sharing, even with his brothers who had betrayed him into slavery > Genesis 50:15-21.

Don't boast what evil can do. Boast all that God can do. The Muslims could be playing "good cop, bad cop."
---Bill on 12/15/15


Nicole_Lacey:

You said: They even had a sign up stating for non Muslims not to step on the Black mats in respect for Muslims. ...
Knowing me as a Proud CHRISTIAN American:
I stepped on that black mat placed for only Muslims.


In other words, you chose to show contempt for the beliefs of people who did not share your beliefs, rather than respectful disagreement. By The Golden Rule, this must mean that you WANT people of different beliefs to hold contempt for your own beliefs, rather than respect them.
---StrongAxe on 12/14/15


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///Leon, the last Government Agency I worked for the Department of Aviation.

Before you ask, yes we were required to provide and maintain a place on Government Property, so Muslims would have a place to say their daily prayers.
---Rob on 12/13/15///

Please define government property. Were you in the USA or abroad? Were said Muslims employees of the FAA?
---Leon on 12/13/15


Rob, I recognize it as subtle Christian persecution and it will only get worse.
---Press_On on 12/13/15


..provide and maintain a place on Government Property, so Muslims would have a place to say their daily prayers.---Rob

Not only required, but they have the nerve to use a Catholic Chapel and placed black mats in the east section of the Chapel.

They took down all the stations of the cross from the walls calling the Chapel a Universal worship center.

They even had a sign up stating for non Muslims not to step on the Black mats in respect for Muslims.

I saw this 15 years ago in the Chicago Airport.

Knowing me as a Proud CHRISTIAN American:

I stepped on that black mat placed for only Muslims.

If the word 'Universal' is used then no one can tell me NOT to touch or step on it!
---Nicole_Lacey on 12/13/15


Leon, the last Government Agency I worked for the Department of Aviation.

Before you ask, yes we were required to provide and maintain a place on Government Property, so Muslims would have a place to say their daily prayers.
---Rob on 12/13/15


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I been at the VA since 2004.
A group of us pray in the open. As long as we don't force anyone to pray with us or listen to us.

I even say 'Merry Christmas' out loud to those who I know are Christians.

When a Co-worker told me he was going to report me if I didn't stop.

I said "Report me for saying the very same word on the day we are getting paid double time because we are working on this day called Christmas day???

Or are you reporting me for
saying 'Merry' in front of the Federal proclaimed day?"

Saying 'Happy Holidays' is stupid.
Sometimes I asked which holiday are you calling 'happy'?

Or I didn't know we had a day where we celebrated all of the Holidays of the year on one day?
---Nicole_Lacey on 12/12/15


Rob: I worked for the DOD for 26 years & I don't recall any EEOC requirements that allowed Christian prayer groups or Bible studies to be conducted during duty hours. Likewise, I don't recall any requirement permitting Muslims to perform their daily prayers while on the job. However, I've been retired 24 years, so please explain what policy making body authorized the activity you've cited.
---Leon on 12/11/15


Did you ask your superiors why mahometans received preferential treatment in this regard?

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 12/11/15


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