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On the Trinity:

Why do some people have problems believing in the Holy Trinity?

God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit (or Holy Ghost in the KJV), one God in three divine Persons.

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michael4879 states, "Only the doctrine of the Trinity is not a perfect doctrine."

Yes sir, to those who do not understand as you have clearly demonstrated.

Jesus does have different roles,yet, he is equal to the father.

Firstborn of creation speaks of Jesus's Superiority not inferiority.
---john9346 on 4/8/16


"Sir, lets start with the Biblical Definition of the trinity:"
John. where is that definition found?
---joseph on 4/8/16


/What is so hard is that nobody can come up with a satisfactory definition of "Person"\-James_L on 4/7/16
Maybe the question is: Why is it so hard for you to accept the satisfactory definitions provided?
Maybe you should define "satisfactory."
And to whose satisfaction.
---micha9344 on 4/8/16


The doctrine of the Trinity is not perfect. The Father is greater than the Son. The Son does not know the day or hour the Father has set for his second coming. The Son is the first fruit of creation. The Son did not consider equality with God something to be grasped. Yes, the Father is in the Son, and the Son is in the Father, and no one comes to the Father, but by Jesus. Only the doctrine of the Trinity is not a perfect doctrine.
---mike4879 on 4/8/16


James_l asked, "What is so hard is that nobody can come up with a satisfactory definition of "Person"

Sir, lets start with the Biblical Definition of the trinity:

In the being of God (essence) there exist Father, Son, and Holy Spirit who are co equal, co eternal, and co existing, 3 distinct persons. The Father is not The Son, The Son is not The Father, and The Holy Spirit is not the Father nor is he the Son.

These 3 persons make up God not 3 different Gods, but only 1 true Living God.
---john9346 on 4/8/16




James_L,

See below:



And the catholic faith is this: That we worship one God in Trinity, and Trinity in Unity,

Neither confounding the persons, nor dividing the substance

. For there is one Person of the Father, another of the Son and another of the Holy Spirit.

. But the Godhead of the Father, of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit is all, the glory equal, the majesty co-eternal.
---john on 4/8/16


But James they don't have three personalities. They have one. Only one of them has a body. The Father and Holy Spirit are Spirit only.

Explain what you mean by modes.

So your point was false. Also since they have only one way of thinking and they all think and act alike. That makes them one. But now one has a body.

The three bodies idea is in Mormonism not Christianity.

So why do we have to totally understand GOD? He is beyond our full knowing now. When we get to heaven then we will know.

Agape
---Samuelbb7 on 4/8/16


"....God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit. Three Persons, one God. What is so hard?"
---Monk_Brendan on 4/7/16

What is so hard is that nobody can come up with a satisfactory definition of "Person"

I've asked here before. So tell me what 1 Person is, and I'll tell you if I think there are 3 of them

3 beings?
3 personalities?
3 modes?

3....what?
---James_L on 4/7/16


I agree Monk Brendan. Your correct.

I too believe in the Trinity.

Agape
---Samuelbb7 on 4/7/16


Samuel said, "We are to Worship GOD alone."

We do worship God alone! God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit. Three Persons, one God. What is so hard?
---Monk_Brendan on 4/7/16




I was merely quoting your own words, Luke.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 4/7/16


Cluny, I was not speaking about God being in time. Of course He is outside of time. You are looking for mistakes, in spelling, or words, to esteem yourself, instead of edifying others.
That only shows the fruits you display.
---Luke on 4/7/16


\\Cluny, when I said no one is at the exact place as another, I meant us in learning about God. \\

Thank you for clarifying that.

\\Yes, the Three Persons of the Godhead are at the exact same place as another at one time.\\

The three Persons of the Trinity are outside of time.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 4/6/16


To be filled with the Holy spirit is to be filled with Jesus. That is part of being God being a Trinity.

This is part of fundamental Christianity. That Jesus was physically resurrected. He is still both God and man.

As Hebrews states he is our High Priest.
---Samuelbb7 on 4/4/16


Cluny, when I said no one is at the exact place as another, I meant us in learning about God. You should have read what I wrote before I put those words. You are not as smart as you thought.


Yes, the Three Persons of the Godhead are at the exact same place as another at one time.
---Luke on 4/4/16


What I am is a human being. Who I am is a person.
I have capabilities of reason, will, and self-awareness, a consciousness distinct from other human beings who are persons.
These attributes are also found in the Godhead.
Jesus said "not my will, but thine" to His Father.
Jesus also said "I will send another comforter", talking about the Holy Spirit.
One doesn't need a body to be a person.
---micha9344 on 4/4/16


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\\But Jesus was physically resurrected from the dead and still has a physical body. So he is no longer omnipresent.\\

Then you don't believe He lives in your heart, Samuel?

**I have a hard time calling myself a Trinitarian because I haven't run into anyone who will define "Person"**

Find a good basic book on Trinitarian theology, James.

Or look it up on Orthodox Wiki.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 4/3/16


I have a hard time calling myself a Trinitarian because I haven't run into anyone who will define "Person"

As soon as someone cares to tell me what 1 "Person" is, I'll tell you if I think there are 3 of "Them"
---James_L on 4/2/16


I don't presume to tell GOD that JESUS is not GOD because he has a physically resurrected body.

Many who deny the trinity deny that GOD can be in a human and a body. That does not make them right.

What I know is that we need to be spreading the Gospel to the world and getting read for the Second Coming.

Agape
---Samuelbb7 on 3/31/16


1Co 15:45-47 And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul, the last Adam [was made] a quickening spirit...The first man [is] of the earth, earthy: the second man [is] the Lord from heaven.
---micha9344 on 3/30/16


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"But Jesus was physically resurrected from the dead and still has a physical body. So he is no longer omnipresent."

Samuelbb7 on 3/29/16

It is my thought that the physical, tangible Jesus has never been omnipresent, but the Spirit...
---chria9396 on 3/30/16


Jesus' body does not prevent Him form being omnipresent any more than Him being born means He is bound by time.
The Creator is not subject to the created.
Omnipresence is a characteristic of God.
If Jesus isn't omnipresent, He isn't God.
Mat 28:20 Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, [even] unto the end of the world. Amen.
All-powerful, all-knowing, and ever-present are bound.
None exists without the other.
---micha9344 on 3/30/16


The Father and the Holy Spirit are omnipresent.

But Jesus was physically resurrected from the dead and still has a physical body. So he is no longer omnipresent.

Agape
---Samuelbb7 on 3/29/16


\\And no one is at the exact same place as another at one time.
---Luke on 3/27/16
\\

WRONG!

The Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are bound to neither place nor time, which are created.

As we in the Orthodox Church sing, "Present in all places and filling all things."

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 3/29/16


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The same attributes given to the Father are given to the Son, why? They are both the Creator of all things, they both are the Savior. They are both Persons. And of course the Holy Spirit is the Holy Spirit of God. Same Person.
So it might be hard to make someone understand, but that is OK. We only have as much knowledge of the Truth as the Spirit gives us. It is all up to God. And no one is at the exact same place as another at one time.
---Luke on 3/27/16


We are to Worship GOD alone.

Revelation 5:13,14
And every creature which is in heaven, and on the earth, and under the earth, and such as are in the sea, and all that are in them, heard I saying, Blessing, and honour, and glory, and power, be unto him that sitteth upon the throne, and unto the Lamb for ever and ever. And the four beasts said, Amen. And the four and twenty elders fell down and worshipped him that liveth for ever and ever.

Rev 21:22

And I saw no temple therein: for the Lord God Almighty and the Lamb are the temple of it.

Agape
---Samuelbb7 on 3/27/16


"Three that bare record in heaven---" Is there?
Earl,"This is the witness of God [the Father] which he hath testified of his Son. He that believeth on the Son of God hath the witness [of His Spirit] in himself: he that believeth not God hath made him a liar, because he believeth not the record that God gave of his Son. And this is the record, that God hath given to us eternal life, and this life is in his Son. He that hath the Son hath life, and he that hath not the Son of God hath not life. Jesus Himself said, If I bear witness of myself, my witness is not true." One God who bears witness through His word and the inspiration and insight that He provides thereby.
---joseph on 3/26/16


\\Three that bare record in heaven---
There are three that keep records in heaven and the record of each one is the same as the other two.\\

This passage is not about keeping records.

And the KJV phrase is BEAR (not bare) record.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 3/26/16


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"I don't understand why people don't accept the Trinity." Samuel this person doesn't accept the concept because there is but one God, The Father, and one Lord, The Father's Son, The Lord Jesus, the Christ. The term "God the Father" is used repeatedly in scripture, however I have yet to see the terms "God the Son or God the Holy Spirit" in any version of the Bible. "GOD alone can convict and convince a person." Amen. Take comfort in that reality.
---joseph on 3/26/16


KJV- Three that bare record in heaven---
There are three that keep records in heaven and the record of each one is the same as the other two.
These records are one and the same but individual records they are.
The trinity concept may be a bit of a reach for some but it does't break the bank
---Earl on 3/25/16


I don't understand why people don't accept the Trinity.

To me is seems that they want to be different then others. But many churches who believe in the Trinity are different then others. All I can do is show what the Bible says and pray for those who disagree.

GOD alone can convict and convince a person.

Agape to all.
---Samuelbb7 on 3/25/16


P.S. Mark, allow me to complete the verse you quoted "no one knows the Father except the Son" "and the one to whom the Son wills to reveal Him."
I chose to believe that He has chosen to reveal Himself to me. Arrogance? No. Confidence? Yes, in Him. That is why I feel no need to argue the concept, yet I am willing answer any sincere inquiry concerning it. I will always answer without condescension, knowing that my understanding is no greater than the next mans. I can only give that which I have myself received. I know some will say I've received of the wrong spirit, perhaps, yet it is the Spirit of the Father that I trust, If He's allowed my deception, I will trust His reasons for doing so.
---joseph on 3/24/16


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\\You believe in the Oneness doctrine, where God is one person, shown in three different ways?\\

The problem with modern Oneness, as I understand it, is that it puts God inside time.

Some TIMES He is Father.

Some TIMES He is Son.

Some TIMES He is Holy Spirit/Ghost.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 3/24/16


Luke no sarcasm was intended. I apologize if it was perceived that way. It was intended as a compliment. Thank you for the peace you leave me with, I can receive that.
You believe in the Oneness doctrine, where God is one person, shown in three different ways? That's presumptuous of you Mark. I believe Father has made himself known to man in the person of Jesus, and through Him shares His divine insight and inspiration with man, and has worked out through Him our salvation, and adoption as sons, and joint heirs with Him.
---joseph on 3/24/16


One sprit, one Father, one Son, one person.
---joseph on 3/23/16

You believe in the Oneness doctrine, where God is one person, shown in three different ways? There was another blogger on this site who also believed this.

The doctrine confuses me. As I posted before, only Jesus knows The Father and we must believe what Jesus says about The Father.

When Jesus talks about His Father, I can only assume that Jesus is not talking about Himself. Today, Jesus would be called schizophrenic is He were referring to Himself as another person.

If Jesus was talking about Himself when He referred to His Father, the Apostles certainly did not catch on to that. They all talk about Jesus and His Father separately.
---Mark_Eaton on 3/24/16


Joseph, you said,
"and also for taking into consideration that not every one can be at your level of understanding."

Joseph, I sense a little sarcasm in your answer. But let me explain something, we are at the level God wants us to be at this time. No one is at the exact place as another. It has nothing to do with me, it has everything to do with God. Thank you for listening at least. Peace I leave you.
---Luke on 3/24/16


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Thank you Luke for giving me credit for being at least half right, I appreciate that:o) and also for taking into consideration that not every one can be at your level of understanding. But I will continue to study and pray for enlightenment.
---joseph on 3/24/16


What do you make of it? Mark "But when the Comforter is come, whom I will send unto you from the Father, even the Spirit of truth, which proceedeth from the Father, he shall testify of me. Even the Spirit of truth, whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him, for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you. I will not leave you comfortless: I will come to you. Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him." One sprit, one Father, one Son, one person.
---joseph on 3/23/16


Joseph, you stated your beliefs and I believe you are right, half way.
I believe everyone forgets that Jesus Christ was a human being, just like us. The human person of Jesus was born. But He was also Spiritually God. God was with us in the Person of Jesus Christ. That is why the Person of Christ always asked the Father for something. The human person was the one who died and rose again. Something to think about.
---Luke on 3/24/16


And the catholic faith is this: That we worship one God in Trinity, and Trinity in Unity,

Neither confounding the persons, nor dividing the substance

. For there is one Person of the Father, another of the Son and another of the Holy Spirit.

. But the Godhead of the Father, of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit is all one, the glory equal, the majesty co-eternal.

Such as the Father is, such is the Son and such is the Holy Spirit.

7. The Father uncreated, the Son uncreated, and the Holy Spirit uncreated.

8. The Father incomprehensible, the Son incomprehensible, and the Holy Spirit incomprehensible.

9. The Father eternal, the Son eternal, and the Holy Spirit eternal.
---john9346 on 3/23/16


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Does that make some sense to you?
Luke, that it makes sense to you is all that matters. I have stated my beliefs.
---joseph on 3/23/16


I will simply say that I read it differently.
---joseph on 3/22/16

Here is a verse where all three are present. What do you make of it?

John 14:26 " But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in My name, He will teach you all things, and bring to your remembrance all things that I said to you"

I choose to believe Jesus before anything else. Jesus told us in Luke 10:22 that "no one knows the Father except the Son" including all the OT writers and prophets. Jesus is the only one with first hand experience.

When Jesus tells us the relationship that He and the Father have, nothing and no one else is believable.
---Mark_Eaton on 3/23/16


Mat 28:19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:
Acts 13:2 ...the Holy Ghost said, Separate me Barnabas and Saul for the work whereunto I have called them.
1Co 12:4-6 Now there are diversities of gifts, but the same Spirit. And there are differences of administrations, but the same Lord. And there are diversities of operations, but it is the same God which worketh all in all.
1Co 3:16 Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and [that] the Spirit of God dwelleth in you?
1Jo 4:15 Whosoever shall confess that Jesus is the Son of God, God dwelleth in him, and he in God.
Romans 8:9 ...Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.
---micha9344 on 3/23/16


"Well Joseph it would be better if you accepted when the Bible showed all three show up." I do know the Father and His Inspiration was present, and there for Jesus. However, what the word does not say, Is that three distinct and separate beings were there. However if that how you read it, I will certainly not suggest that you are incorrect. I will simply say that I read it differently. I read that scenario as Father opening the mind of Jesus and those who may have heard the voice, to who He is and the purpose for His sojourn on earth. "Surely it would be better to accept this truth now." I'm sure it is for you. Be blessed.
---joseph on 3/22/16


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Joseph, I agree with you concerning the Three Persons of God. The Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit. All worked together to make salvation possible. But the Son is the Word of God, and the Holy Spirit is the Spirit of God. There is only One God. The Son is God, and the Holy Spirit is God. And of course the Father is God.
Does that make some sense to you?
---Luke on 3/23/16


Well Joseph it would be better if you accepted when the Bible showed all three show up.

Matthew 3:16,17 And Jesus, when he was baptized, went up straightway out of the water: and, lo, the heavens were opened unto him, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove, and lighting upon him: And lo a voice from heaven, saying, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.

Surely it would be better to accept this truth now. Just because we aren't able to explain it completely does not make it false.

Agape
---Samuelbb7 on 3/22/16


Samuel Jesus is the Son of God, the fullness of the Father, bodily. Father's Word, His divine disclosure of Himself, made tangible to man. The Holy Spirit is Father's direct divine inspiration, given for the enlightenment of man. Again, the only person in that equation is Jesus. The only personality being reflected is the Father. I have said no more or less than that concerning this. Thats my belief, I simply share it. Just as you are sharing yours. You and those likeminded, may very well be correct. If three distinct beings show up at the final judgement, than I will stand humbly corrected. However I doubt Father will condemn me for the error, If I am shown to be in error. I trust Him, and I appreciate what He has done for man through His Son.
---joseph on 3/22/16


Joseph what the concept or meaning of Trinity is to understand how your point is true but that what the Bible about Jesus to be true He must be GOD too.

John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
John 1:14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.

There have been a lot of verses posted here that say Jesus is GOD. Why don't you explain why they are all wrong?

agape
---Samuelbb7 on 3/21/16


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Jesus Christ is God. He is the Word of God. The Holy Spirit is God, He is the Spirit of God. Yes, God is One.
---Luke on 3/22/16


Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD: And the LORD shall be king over all the earth: in that day shall there be one LORD, and his name one. Unto thee it was shewed, that thou mightest know that the LORD he is God, there is none else beside him. I am the LORD: that is my name: and my glory will I not give to another, I am the first, and I am the last, and beside me there is no God. ye are even my witnesses. Is there a God beside me? Yea, there is no God, I know not any. I am the LORD, and there is none else. There is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him, and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him. For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus,
---joseph on 3/20/16


\\Welcome. Have a good Lenten season.
---Samuelbb7 on 3/15/16\\

Thank you, Samuel.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 3/16/16


Oh, Heavenly King, Consoler, Spirit of Truth, present in all places and filling all things, the Treasury of blessings, and the Giver of Life, come oh Good One and dwell in us, cleanse us from all stain and save our souls.

Saturday Morning we are entering into Holy Week, and as it IS Holy Week I will be signing off until March 29, which is where our Bishop has transferred the Feast of the Annunciation, which is usually on March 25, but because that day is also Good Friday, he has transferred the Feast to avoid confusion.

May all of you have a Joyous Pascha!

(Easter)
---Monk_Brendan on 3/16/16


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Welcome. Have a good Lenten season.
---Samuelbb7 on 3/15/16


I've never noticed that as being a Trinitarian passage before, Samuel.

Thanks.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 3/15/16


1Peter 1:2
Elect according to the foreknowledge of God the Father, through sanctification of the Spirit, unto obedience and sprinkling of the blood of Jesus Christ: Grace unto you, and peace, be multiplied.

When we sin we transgress the law of GOD. So only GOD can be our savior.

Good points guys.

Agape
---Samuelbb7 on 3/14/16


Then Jesus answered, Most assuredly, I say to you, the Son can do nothing of Himself, but what He sees the Father do, for whatever He does, the Son also does in like manner. I can of mine own self do nothing: For I have not spoken of myself, but the Father which sent me, he gave me a commandment, what I should say. The words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works. I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever, Even the Spirit of truth, whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him, for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you I will not leave you comfortless: I will come to you.
---joseph on 3/14/16


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Brendan said, "See? Wings and feathers." "Yes, I am making a joke, but the point is that if you anthropomorphize God too much, you end up with silliness like God being a chicken."

Sir, the setting starts in verse 1 the context speaks of God's Presence to protect. The feathers and wings are symbolisms of God's Tangible Presence.

As far as people reading this verse and coming up with foolishness

Here is how Paul the apostle addressed such individuals, "But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned."

1 Cor 2:14
---john9346 on 3/13/16


In Philosophy. a person is a self-conscious or rational being. There are three persons in the Holy Trinity.

In looking at Scripture, we find the following passages:
For the Father
Matt 5:16
Matt 5:45
Matt 5:48 and so on.

For the Son:

Matthew 3:16
Matt 9:6
Matthew 11:18-20
Do I need to go on?

For the Holy Spirit:

Luke 4:1
Matthew 28:19
Luke 1:41
And so on.

I have a ton more, but the 125 word limit on here stops me from posting more.
---Monk_Brendan on 3/13/16


john9347, elsewhere, Scripture says, "Keep me as the apple of Your eye."

Does this mean that God has eyes with apples in them?

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 3/12/16


John 9346 said, "Could you provide the verse where this is stated?"

Psalm 91:4 He shall cover thee with his feathers, and under his wings shalt thou trust:

See? Wings and feathers.

Yes, I am making a joke, but the point is that if you anthropomorphize God too much, you end up with silliness like God being a chicken.

---Monk_Brendan on 3/11/16


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The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter day Saints also say Jesus and Satan are half brothers children of GOD but who had different mothers.

The writings of Smith are the final authority along with the pronouncements of the latter prophets who still run the church today.

I have read the main books of the LDS church and some of their prophets. The really do teach righteousness by works to be saved.
---Samuelbb7 on 3/11/16


Brendan said, "He also has wings. Does that make Him a chicken?"

Could you provide the verse where this is stated?

We must allow the Scriptures to define the meaning.

Cluny, there is a difference in what mormons say and Christianity.

If you have read Mormon Statement on this topic, it states God has a "Physical Body ." this is where they error.
---john9346 on 3/11/16


John 9346 said, "For example, God has hands, face, eyes, mouth, feet, and emotions."

He also has wings. Does that make Him a chicken?

Monk Brendan
---Monk_Brendan on 3/11/16


\\Please explain to the readers/viewers sir how it is needless, childish, and inaccurate??

I challenge you to do so using the Scriptures.
\\

Surely you don't take the attribution of God's anatomy in an earthly human sense, do you?

That's not Christianity. That's Mormonism.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 3/11/16


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1 X 1 X 1 = 1

Well, let's see >

Our Heavenly Father X Jesus His Son X the Holy Spirit = family caring and sharing love.
---Bill on 3/10/16


Cluny states, "That's needless and childish--and inaccurate--anthropomorphism."

Please explain to the readers/viewers sir how it is needless, childish, and inaccurate??

I challenge you to do so using the Scriptures.
---john9346 on 3/10/16


Cluny wrote "1x1x1=1". I like that. :)

Also, thanks Leon for your comments!
---Press_On on 3/10/16


\\For example, God has hands, face, eyes, mouth, feet, and emotions.
---john9346 on 3/10/16
\\

That's needless and childish--and inaccurate--anthropomorphism.

**The word "Trinity" is simply a mathematical sum of...
....Father, Son, and Holy Spirit.**

faithforfaith, make sure you don't add.

It's 1 X 1 X 1 = 1.

You multiply.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 3/10/16


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Well, of all things, I just prepared a writing about the theo-logic of the Trinity. And if you please, you are welcome to look up what I share, in the e-card section of Christianet >

go to "Mall"

enter into "Pick Up Ecard"

and use this password to view >

MAR101323241

It works, now, but this card will be removed in about a month from now, March 10, 2016.

God bless you (c:

Bill
---Bill on 3/10/16


The word "Trinity" is simply a mathematical sum of...
....Father, Son, and Holy Spirit.

Jesus was sent by The Father to earth as the SACRIFICIAL LAMB that would do away with the "sin" law (it was imperfect and caused death of the human soul).

After Jesus hung on the cross and performed the end of that law, He also left the Father's divine Spirit for us to learn from.

So one dispensation of the creator is HIMSELF.

Another dispensation of the creator is THE LAMB JESUS on the cross.

The last dispensation provided by the creator is the HOLY SPIRIT that is here because of Jesus.
---faithforfaith on 3/10/16


///I think it's...a difficult concept for some...to grasp. I...don't think [we] need to scold [others who don't]... understand it...

[True believers have] the privilege of asking the [Holy] Spirit for guidance [ & ]...a better understanding.---Press_On on 3/10/16///

Right on Press_On!!! I think people try too hard & overthink what the Bible says about Father, Son & Holy Spirit. Allow me to use this analogy, i.e., Papa Press_On, Junior Press_On. & Comforter Press_On. All are equally important individuals in the Press_On family, with different roles. But, they all make up the one family, the Press_Ons.

So, One God(head) with three distinct & equal persons within it.
---Leon on 3/10/16


Joseph states, "Because there is only one "person" in that equation, the Son."

Well sir, when you look at each individual of the "Bless Trinity." you find personage given to each one.

There are roles and responsibilities and qualities that only a person can implement.

For example, God has hands, face, eyes, mouth, feet, and emotions.
---john9346 on 3/10/16


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"Why do some people have problems believing in the Holy Trinity? God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit (or Holy Ghost in the KJV), one God in three divine Persons."
Because there is only one "person" in that equation, the Son. The Father is Spirit, an essence that can not be contained, and although He has personality, person is defined as "a human being," or as "the body of a living human being." Jesus is that person, and is the fulness of the Father bodily. The Holy Spirit is the Direct Divine Inspiration of the Father, set apart for the enlightenment of man, revealed, expressed, and relayed through His Word.
---Josef on 3/10/16


It goes back to the most important question in history. Jesus asked it of Peter.

The question is "Who do you say that I am".

Those who say Jesus is Lord (kurios, Adonai, God) give Glory to the Father. Those who do not, deny Jesus before men and Jesus will certainly deny them before His Father.
---Mark_Eaton on 3/10/16


I think it's just a difficult concept for some people to grasp. I also don't think people need to scold other people if they don't believe it nor understand it. It is what it is.

The true believer has the privilege of asking the Spirit for guidance if they feel they want a better understanding.
---Press_On on 3/10/16


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