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Year Of The Great Flood

In what year did the Great Flood (Genesis 7) occur?

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Leon, you said you put "CIRCA" for the doubters? Hardly Leon. Just admit you were wrong. Also, you still have not said WHY the absolute year of 1656 is so vitally important. If it were , believe me GOD would have given the exact year to the month and days into the month. He did it when recording the very day Noah left the Ark According to how old Noah was. If it were of vital importance, we would see something like...AND FROM THE TIME OF ADAM UNTIL THE FLOOD WAS X number of years, or X number of full moons etc. God did not. Why, because 1656 CIRCA has no special meaning. We're not once even instructed to calculate the meaning of the year.
---kathr4453 on 4/21/16


FYI: Yes, I did say circa (about) only to appease the doubters. I was wrong to do that. When we do the Bible math the year comes out to be specifically "1656". So, who are we to say otherwise?
---Leon on 4/21/16


Micha: Delugional?! Now, that's funny! :D I admit that does sound at least 1656 time worst than being delusional. :) I'm willing to forgive & reset. Hope you are too.
---Leon on 4/21/16


Jeery: You could be right, but naw! The fact that it took mankind less than 2,000 years of sin upon the Earth to earn God's discuss & warrant destruction isn't the least bit important to willfully sinning people who are hellbent upon repeating Bible history. The next time will be by fire just in case you're interested.
---Leon on 4/21/16


Leon, what ambush?
I've been posting on this question since the beginning.
I'm beginning to think you're delugional.
Just because you made a mistake and someone corrected you, doesn't mean they were ready to ambush.
Correction always shows the heart of the one being corrected, whether they are wise and take the correction or a fool and despise it.
It was interesting that you said "peering in the darkness", rather than "out of the darkness."
Anyways, back to the post.
It seems we all know how to count, including Ussher, and the year(s) of the flood was "circa" 1656-1657.
---micha9344 on 4/21/16




Michael: So, it was your beady little eyes peering in the darkness waiting for an opportunity to ambush me. What, did I toss you a juicy bone to gnaw on? Having fun, huh? Well, you know like the saying goes, "Every dog has it's day", but after that...
---Leon on 4/21/16


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// Jeery: NOT IMPORTANT to people, like you, who don't have a clue of it's importance. smh

---Leon on 4/20/16
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OK Leon, rather than continually carping like a petulant schoolyard bully, why don't you explain to us - just once - why the exact date of the flood should be important to us. I'll bet you can't.


---jerry6593 on 4/21/16


Monk, If the rotation on Earth's axis changed, it would rotate more times or less times as it revolved around the Sun.
What is funny is that Leon said it may have been faster before, which actually would have more days in a year.
If the revolution stayed the same, the Earth would have to rotate slower to accommodate only 140 days in a revolution.
But, as you point out, the rotation could stay the same, but the revolution around the Sun would have to increase for there to be less days in a solar year.
---micha9344 on 4/20/16


Gee Monk: I thought that was a given since every fifth grader knows the Earth rotates on it's axis while it revolves around the Sun. What, should I be proud of you? Okay, ataboy! You done good! :)
---Leon on 4/20/16


Leon said, "...for a year to have been approx. 140 days long it would've meant the Earth rotated on it's axis at a much higher rate of speed & now has slowed considerably to the 365 day year mark. It's not likely life, as we know it on the planet, could've survived the affects of a 140 day year rotation speed...."

Leon, if you're any type of a scientist--or even a man of learning--you would know that a year of 140 days would be the Earth revolving much faster about the sun, and not the speed of the rotation of the Earth on its axis.

(See? I can speak reasonably and rationally. Would that you could have the same courtesy as I do.)
---Monk_Brendan on 4/20/16




/The point was.....this was no LOCAL FLOOD.\-kathr4453 on 4/19/16
-Agreed
---micha9344 on 4/20/16


Jeery: NOT IMPORTANT to people, like you, who don't have a clue of it's importance. smh
---Leon on 4/20/16


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The point was.....this was no LOCAL FLOOD.

---kathr4453 on 4/19/16
//


Exactly! Only a complete, worldwide flood would accomplish God's plan to eradicate sinful man from the planet. This was its one and only purpose, and is the important lesson from the flood. The exact date is NOT IMPORTANT!



---jerry6593 on 4/20/16


///...OR, A YEAR before the flood only consisted of approx 140 + days....---kathr4453 on 4/19/16///

Logically, for a year to have been approx. 140 days long it would've meant the Earth rotated on it's axis at a much higher rate of speed & now has slowed considerably to the 365 day year mark. It's not likely life, as we know it on the planet, could've survived the affects of a 140 day year rotation speed. I therefore believe it has always rotated at the same speed from the beginning of God's creation to the present day.
---Leon on 4/19/16


Leon said, "Monk: Stop being such a little sissy with your passive aggressive attacks on me. If you can't take it (don't like being hit back), don't dish it! For heaven's sake stop running to mommy moderator, like a little sissy, as if you are innocent of any wrong doing. Man up Tweedle Dee! smh/LOL"

Leon, stop attacking every word I say, and I will be more reasonable.

For instance, you said, " Monk: You're so full of venom it's no wonder depression, along with a boat load of stinking who knows what, is fermenting inside of your massively over weight body."
---Monk_Brendan on 4/19/16


Sounds like more than a local flood to me, seeing how precise Micha recorded the flood. Maybe I see this wrong, but it sounds like the ark rested on mt Ararat when the flood waters receded = 150plus days, when below him there was still water that took 150 plus more days for the water to totally dry up and even though 8:13 says the ground was dry, they didn't leave the ark for another month until the earth was dried up.

The point was.....this was no LOCAL FLOOD.
---kathr4453 on 4/19/16


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Concerning Gen 7-8, there is no discrepancy.
7:11 Noah was 600y 1m old. It was the 17th of the 2nd month.
7:13 The same day he entered the ark.
7:10 24th day of that month, the earth was flooding.
7:12 It still rained for 33 more days (40 total).
7:24 The flood lasted 150d.
8:4 7m on the 17th day, the ark landed. 6 lunar months after it started, or 150 days.
8:5 10thM 1stD top of other mountains.
8:6 40 more days.
8:10 7 more days.
8:12 7 more.
8:13 Noah is 601y old it was the 1stM 1stD.
8:14 2ndM 27thD. Earth had dried. It had been 1y and 10days from when they entered to when they exited.
---micha9344 on 4/19/16


Monk Brendan: Once again you show us all how to act like Christians in the face of the adversary. Keep up the good work!



---jerry6593 on 4/19/16


It is interesting Genesis 8:13-14 and Genesis 7:24 all give different answers.....OR, they are each saying something slightly different than each other OR, A YEAR before the flood only consisted of approx 140 + days.

Thank you Leon for pointing out the discrepancy in these verses. Yet we see they are all in scripture, they are all truth, but obviously each must be saying something different. Even G 8: 13 is saying something different than v14 adding a month + to the previous verse.
---kathr4453 on 4/19/16


///Earl said, "Ever heard of honest inquiry ?
If you think I'm questioning the Bible then yes ,its called honest inquiry."

Earl, take my advice. ,Don't try to use logic on Leon, it will just confuse him, and then he will attack you.---Monk_Brendan on 4/17/16///

Monk: Stop being such a little sissy with your passive aggressive attacks on me. If you can't take it (don't like being hit back), don't dish it! For heaven's sake stop running to mommy moderator, like a little sissy, as if you are innocent of any wrong doing. Man up Tweedle Dee! smh/LOL
---Leon on 4/18/16


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Leon said, "Monk: You're so full of venom it's no wonder depression, along with a boat load of stinking who knows what, is fermenting inside of your massively over weight body."

MODERATOR TAKE NOTE!

I made a comment to Earl about Leon's behavior, and this is what I got in response.

Leon, I have tried very hard to be nice to you. However, you try very hard to attack me!

All that you do is attack people if they don't agree with you 100%.

Whatever...
---Monk_Brendan on 4/18/16


"The waters flooded the earth for a hundred and fifty days." (Gen.7:24, NIV)
---Leon on 4/17/16


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It doesnt matter to you Jeery because you're dull of hearing & truth impaired, just like those who perished in Noah's day . As pertains to you & the blog witch "Kathr the Contentious", the water is way over your heads!

---Leon on 4/17/16
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Do you feel better now? Other than starting a nonsense blog to show your juvenile character, WHAT IS YOUR POINT?



---jerry6593 on 4/18/16


Genesis 8:13-14 Now it came about in the six hundred and first year, in the first month, on the first of the month, the water was dried up from the earth. Then Noah removed the covering of the ark, and looked, and behold, the surface of the ground was dried up. And in the second month, on the twenty-seventh day of the month, the earth was dry.
(The flood lasted 371 days)

Just curious if anyone can document any other LOCAL flood taking 371 days for any LOCAL FLOOD WATERS to subside and the land become dry?
---kathr4453 on 4/17/16


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Leon, People are trying to nicely REASON with you using REASON, and even your own math and words, and all you have done is insult sneer and hurl ugly remarks at others. You've attacked Micha, Jerry, Monk, Earl. They only asked why YOUR date of 1656 is different than anyone else's date of CIRCA, 1656...don't forget YOU even put "" marks around CIRCA, WHICH MEANS APPROXIMATELY. or maybe you don't know what approximate means..or again Leon is changing definitions of words again to fit his reasoning.

Just apologize Leon and admit you didn't KNOW what "Circa" meant. You obviously thought it meant absolute, engraved in stone without any variance. You are embarrassed and you use insult to cover your own embarrassment.
---kathr4453 on 4/17/16


Monk: You're so full of venom it's no wonder depression, along with a boat load of stinking who knows what, is fermenting inside of your massively over weight body.
---Leon on 4/17/16


It doesnt matter to you Jeery because you're dull of hearing & truth impaired, just like those who perished in Noah's day . As pertains to you & the blog witch "Kathr the Contentious", the water is way over your heads!
---Leon on 4/17/16


Earl said, "Ever heard of honest inquiry ?
If you think I'm questioning the Bible then yes ,its called honest inquiry."


Earl, take my advice. Don't try to use logic on Leon, it will just confuse him, and then he will attack you.
---Monk_Brendan on 4/17/16


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circa<
preposition
(often preceding a date) approximately.
"built circa 1935"
synonyms: approximately, around, about, roughly, something like, on the order of, or so, or thereabouts, more or less, in the region of, give or take, informalin the ballpark of
"the year of his birth is circa 1612"

Since the Bible clearly shows the year of the flood was 1656, who amongst us has the authority to muddy the water with months, weeks, days, etc.?
---Leon on 4/16/16

187 when Lamech (Noah's father) was born ,Adam was 874. Lamech was born "CIRCA" 874...
---Leon on 4/14/16

The ONLY problem here Leon is you contradicting yourself.
---kathr4453 on 4/17/16


Leon: I think you should be awarded a prize for this blog - the Great CN "SO WHAT AWARD". Other than something to argue about, what's the point? God did indeed destroy life on earth in the worldwide flood of Noah. The exact date doesn't matter at all.



---jerry6593 on 4/17/16


Whatever Kathr! smh
---Leon on 4/16/16


Leon, the year of the flood was "CIRCA" ( you did also state CIRCA CORRECT? AKA APPROXIMATELY 1656. Same date Usser gave. Now AGAIN, what was your problem with those dates in the first place? AND the Bible dies NOT give any date as 1656 AM. Nor does the Bible give or say those birth happened the very DAY so and so turned 130. I was 25 when my first was born. But LITERALLY , I was 25 years, 4 months and 12 days old when my first born was born. Now he was 30 years 8 months and 15 days when his first born was born. Just in those two generations we see an additional year and approx 1 month.
So again I will stand with my answer.....anywhere from 1656 to 1660+.

Conversation OVER.
---kathr4453 on 4/16/16


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In the future Leon, when asking a question, you need to make very clear in the post that we are to GUESS, what YOU BELIEVE, the correct answer is. We should all keep that in mind when taking any bait you throw out there. That way we KNOW AHEAD OF TIME, what we are up against.

Earl, as far as the date, it doesn't matter if one believes in a partial flood or a whole earth flood. That is a discussion for another post, and has nothing to do with the DATE CIRCA, it literally happened.
---kathr453 on 4/16/16


Kathr: While there are a great many metaphors/allegories in the Bible, there are just as many, if not more, literal truths there as well. So, since God has chosen to have it recorded in His Bible that Adam was 130 years old when Seth was born, etc., who are we (in our zeal) to dispute that? Can not God round out numbers if He wants to, perhaps to help us maintain our focus, as He plainly tells us the overall good news of His plan of salvation? Since the Bible clearly shows the year of the flood was 1656, who amongst us has the authority to muddy the water with months, weeks, days, etc.?
---Leon on 4/16/16


Kathr: While there are a great many metaphors/allegories in the Bible, there are just as many, if not more, literal truths there as well. So, since God has chosen to have it recorded in His Bible that Adam was 130 years old when Seth was born, etc., who are we (in our zeal) to dispute that? Can not God round out numbers if He wants to, perhaps to help us maintain our focus, as He plainly tells us the overall good news of His plan of salvation? Since the Bible clearly shows the year of the flood was 1656, who amongst us has the authority to muddy the water with months, weeks, days, etc.?
---Leon on 4/16/16


Using the Bible, well-documented historical events, and some math, we find that the Flood began approximately 4,359 years ago in the year 1656 AM or 2348 BC.
Since the Bible does not provide the number of months in the age of each patriarch listed from Adam to Noah, then we could add about five more years to this number. For example, Adam may have been 130 years and 10 months old when Seth was born, Seth may have been 105 + 4 months etc, etc.

It appears Usser and YOU agree Leon. 1656 AM is the EXACT date of 2348 BC. Your problem is, you don't consider 2348 BC a legitimate year.
---kathr4453 on 4/16/16


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Genesis 5-7: Enos was 90 when Cainan was born. Cainan's great-grandpa Adam was 325 years old. Cainan was born "circa" 325. Cainan was 70 when Mahalaleel was born. Adam was 395 years old. Mahalaleel was was 65 when Jared was born. Adam was 460. Jared was 162 when Enoch was born. Adam was 622. Enoch was 65 when Methuselah was born. Adam was 687. Methuselah was 187 when Lamech (Noah's father) was born ,Adam was 874. Lamech was born "CIRCA" 874...
---Leon on 4/14/16

So exactly what was this all about? You didn't ask what year Lamech was born ...you asked what year was the flood. Taking YOUR figures, adding 162 when Noah was born PLUS 600 years when the flood began......and somehow you have a different answer?
---kathr4453 on 4/15/16


Kathr: Responding to is not the same as answering if the response is incorrect. True to form, you've quickly shifted into the attack mode. So, please do move on so perhaps right minded people can peacefully discuss the blog question rationally without hurling a blitz of personally nasty & accusatory remarks, the likes of which you're notorious for. Please move on! Thank you.
---Leon on 4/14/16


Leon,
I'm not taking the bait!
And I do not see any progress on this subject is in the making here.
Good day
---Earl on 4/14/16


Adam lived 130 he fathered Seth

When Seth had lived 105 years, he fathered Enosh.

When Enosh had lived 90 years, he fathered Kenan

When Kenan had lived 70 years, he fathered Mahalalel

When Mahalalel had lived 65 years, he fathered Jared.

When Jared had lived 162 years, he fathered Enoch.

When Enoch had lived 65 years, he fathered Methuselah.

When Methuselah had lived 187 years, he fathered Lamech.

When Lamech had lived 182 years, he fathered Noah,

After Noah had lived 600 years, + a few months weeks and days when the flood began.

Add a couple months here and there to the ages and you have approx 1656 to maybe 1660. CIRCA.

Total comes to 1656. CIRCA
---kathr4453 on 4/14/16


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Leon, not sure what the problem is here? I believe you also missed some people down the line. It all adds up, and is exactly what I was saying and others. Also what is the big deal? I think we shouldn't worry so much WHAT YEAR the flood came, but WHY there was a flood to begin with. Do you think there is some hidden meaning in the # of the years, like the number of the Beast? Does God ask us to even calculate the years from creation to the flood to prepare us for His wrath to come? No scripture or instruction to even worry about it.

So you have your calculation and I have mine. I'll stand with mine.
---kathr453 on 4/14/16


" Lamech was born "CIRCA" 874..."
Leon correct, now ADD 182 years to Lamech when Noah was born
= 1029.... And then add 600 years a few months weeks and 17 days to the YEAR OF THE FLOOD = 1656 give an extra few years since I doubt that all these first borns were born EXACTLY on their father's birthday. If they were the year is 1656.

Isn't that what Usseur (sp) also came up with? He used the very SAME geanology line with scripture you and I and every one else has.
---kathr4454 on 4/14/16


Genesis 5-7: Enos was 90 when Cainan was born. Cainan's great-grandpa Adam was 325 years old. Cainan was born "circa" 325. Cainan was 70 when Mahalaleel was born. Adam was 395 years old. Mahalaleel was was 65 when Jared was born. Adam was 460. Jared was 162 when Enoch was born. Adam was 622. Enoch was 65 when Methuselah was born. Adam was 687. Methuselah was 187 when Lamech (Noah's father) was born & Adam was 874. Lamech was born "CIRCA" 874...
---Leon on 4/14/16


choose to rationalize & ignore Bible stated facts, so be it. Sorry for your loss.
---Leon on 4/13/16

Leon, I'm using BIBLE STATED FACTS. Since the Bible does not use "THE YEAR OF. " bla bla bla, exactly WHAT Bible stated FACTS are you using? Leon, what is YOUR answer? And do you have ANY ONE ELSE, that has also come to that same conclusion, or are you special that God told you something and no one else?

I too am moving on? When you ask a question, and others answer that question, WHY are you playing some kind of game here. And who makes your answer the right one that you sit and judge and make snarky replies back to others. Same ol same ol Leon.....only want to argue.
---kathr4453 on 4/14/16


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Leon, your jabs are not very Christ-like, but I will consider the source and move on.
You, a mere man, have denounced another's math on this subject as questionable and misleading, yet he comes to the same conclusion you do.
It seems that your math must also be questionable and misleading by default.
The only other explanation is that you made a false accusation.
Given the Biblical account and your (a mere man's) track record, I'll believe the latter.
Do you have anything new and relevant to this topic or are you going to continue to demean and slander others?
---micha9344 on 4/14/16


Earl: All of what you've said leads me to believe you're a Freethought adherent. Is that true? Is not freethought just a euphemism for "atheist"?

How is it that freethought/atheist people could possibly know there is no God unless, of course, they were "all knowing" gods themselves? That seems to be a very tall, even impossible, order for earth bound, finite, mere mortal beings to pull off. If such were however true, saying there's no God would in essence be saying that they, themselves, don't exist. Do you see the problem with such confused & twisted thinking?

Questioning God to the rationalized point of chosen unbelief is a very dangerous place for a person to be in. Where are you Earl?
---Leon on 4/14/16


Okay Kathr. If that's how you choose to rationalize & ignore Bible stated facts, so be it. Sorry for your loss.
---Leon on 4/13/16


Why doesn't that work for you? Just asking. :)
---Leon on 4/13/16

Because Leon, you presume when God gives years, that ...say for example Seth ....was he born EXACTLY the day Adam turned 130 years and so on? OR say Adam was 130 + 3 months. To add anywhere from 1 to even 6 months to each of these rounded off years would and could add up to 5-10 years to the sum total. Or do you say when the bible says so and so was 600 years old for example that all births happened exactly on the very day they turned ( for example) 600 years old.

No rocket science here , or some hidden text in Gen 5-7, that would bypass an intelligent person knowing the concept of MATH.
---kathr4454 on 4/13/16


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Micha: Just what is your major malajustment? :) Why are you so much more interested in what a mere man said over what Scripture actually says? You are indeed obsessed with this Ussher fella. I've come to think you should be taking what the monk man is taking for his erratic behavior. Perhaps your doseage should be a bit higher to get you to the rational, happy place you so desperately need to be in. smh
---Leon on 4/13/16


Leon,
No offense to you here either but not so fast on the trigger there.
If the flood story states there were only 8 survivors then here comes a whole herd of others after the flood then the flood story looses tremendous credibility on all points including if it in fact did occur at all as written in text.
You fix it and ill read it otherwise the whole flood story is on shifting sand.
Ever heard of honest inquiry ?
If you think I'm questioning the Bible then yes ,its called honest inquiry.
---Earl on 4/13/16


Old news buddy.
So writes Ussher in 1656
/235d AM...
14. When Seth was 105 years old, he had his son, Enos.\
-where "d" is summer and "AM" is years from creation.
No new revelation here.
It doesn't seem misleading nor questionable.
Anything new to enlighten us with Leon? Anything?
---micha9344 on 4/13/16


Micha: You do love to go kicking & screaming into the darkness, huh? smh

The Bible says Adam was 130 years old when Seth was born. So, Seth was born in the year 130.

Seth was 105 when his son Enos was born. That means Enos was born in the year his grandpa Adam was 235 (130 + 105 = 235). Enos was born in the year "235"...
---Leon on 4/13/16


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/no global sediment proof\-Trav on 4/12/16
"Billions of dead things buried in rock layers laid down by water all over the world."
-Sounds like global sediment to me.
/civilizations that march through the timeline\
-Only if you accept man made prophets and their timelines, such as Manetho, historian and Egyptian priest to the gods of knowledge and wisdom.
Of course, whatever he wrote is accurate. Look what gods he served.
Egypt, Mizraim in the Bible, is the grandson of Noah.
We can talk Phoenicia, China, and others later.
---micha9344 on 4/13/16


Earl: No offense intended towards you, but your comments aren't addressing (hasn't a thing to do with) the topic of this blog discussion.

Based on what the Bible says, do you know what year the Great Flood took place? Please focus on that. Thx!
---Leon on 4/13/16


Condescending as usual Leon.
Don't get too high up on that pedestal.
Now that you have accused people of misleading and are redirecting, rather than substantiating that accusation, What are we to believe of your question?
The more you push back, the more the question looks of ill intent.
So, what was Ussher's misleading math. Can you be specific or are you posting without evidence, i.e. bearing false witness?
Flood us with this evidence.
---micha9344 on 4/13/16


Kathr: It's only impossible for you if you say so. Let me ask you a question. At your present age, when asked by someone with a real need to know, do you tell your age in terms of years, months, weeks, days, hours & minutes or do you (like most people) speak in terms of years only? When Seth was born the Bible gives Adam's age as 130 & when Noah & family entered the ark the Bible says he was 600. That's good enough for me. Why doesn't that work for you? Just asking. :)
---Leon on 4/13/16


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Micha: I'd like for you to relax (chill) & take some slow, deep breathes, & try not to flood your mind with any more wild imaginings.
---Leon on 4/12/16


leon: I rest my case.



---jerry6593 on 4/13/16


Genesis 7:11 In the six hundredth year of Noah's life, in the second month, the seventeenth day of the month, the same day were all the fountains of the great deep broken up, and the windows of heaven were opened.

Ok so here we have more detail, BUT, it is still Impossible to know EXACTLY, what year, month and day Noah was born or all those before him, even if you had a specific day you say was day 1. Even if you say on the first day of creation was day 1. Or was day 1 on a calendar when Adam and Eve left Eden? Were years exactly 365 days THEN on any given calendar? Did they have a leap year? When exactly did the Jewish calendar begin? That too is debatable. There is nothing in Genesis 5-7 that give the YEAR, of the Great flood.
---kathr4453 on 4/13/16


Leon,
Any interpretation towards how the Nephilim and giants made it on the other side of the flood as did the 8 people in Noah's ark?
No offense to you
---Earl on 4/13/16


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Kathr: You're almost on the right track, but you're reading too much into it. Let the Bible (G5-7) speak to you instead of your intellect.
---Leon on 4/12/16


Since there are many different calendars, finding the exact year would depend on what calendar. If you use the Jewish calendar, subtract the time of Adam to Noah you come to approximately 4099 years ago. Then subtract the AD from when exactly AD began from BC ..( would that be approx 33 years??) I'm not sure how that figures in, and you have APPROX when the flood happened. No one has an EXACT DATE. Reason being adding up the ages of the generations of those from Adam to Noah do not give months. So if the bible says Noah was 600 years old, he may have been 600 years old AND a few months. So that would go for all those before him, making it IMPOSSIBLE TO come up with the exact year.
---kathr4453 on 4/12/16


Jerry: Your blog posts show "you" to be one who is always contentious & wanting to fight. It's clear you don't have a clue or an answer to the blog question. Though you don't think so, the real answer is in the Bible (Gen. 5-7) & visible to anyone who seeks to know it. Unfortunately, for people like you, it's hidden in plain sight.
---Leon on 4/12/16


Did the flood occur at all?
Two obstacles must be reviewed.
1st.The Nephilim were on Earth before the flood and after.
---Earl on 4/10/16

There is a lot more than 2 obstacles. The Flood happened but, not on a global scale. Global is based and taught in the ignorance of our past. Anyone can search the Hebrew, that is not trapped in doctrines forbidding them. The Heb word "erets" used over 1,600 times testifies that it was a large country or area that was flooded. It would take over 40 Arks to have put pairs of animals, seven of the clean and food for all. Water pressure at 5miles deep, saline water, no global sediment proof, civilizations that march through the timeline etc.
---Trav on 4/12/16


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Leon, I know you didn't bring up Ussher. I can read the posts. What you did bring up was that Ussher had questionable and misleading math. I would like you to substantiate that claim else retract it.
You had to have known that Ussher's name would be brought up when such a question is posted.
Maybe you posted it to discredit the Bishop without substantial evidence.
---micha9344 on 4/12/16


Micha: I didn't bring up Ussher. The monk man interjected that misleading diversion. Frankly, I'm not interested in Ussher's calculations. If you are, please feel free to research it for yourself. My interest in this blog & elsewhere lies in staying on track with what the Bible says in regard to the subject question!
---Leon on 4/11/16


Leon: You asked the blog question, but your blog posts show that you are not interested in the answer, but rather in starting arguments. The honest answer is that no one on earth knows the exact date, but Bishop Ussher's chronology is as good as any. If that's not good enough for you, go with the statistical peak of the AMS C14 data of the fossils. Why does everything have to be a nasty fight?



---jerry6593 on 4/12/16


/ Rather than Bishop Ussher's questionable (misleading) math, does the Bible actually give a more accurate way of calculating the exact year of the flood?\-Leon on 4/11/16
Not to defend Ussher, but I'd be interested to know this questionable, misleading math you post of.
---micha9344 on 4/11/16


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Leon said, " Monk: If you didn't have anything positive to contribute to this blog why didn't you just keep your acidic comments to yourself? Were you trying to show us how Christ-like you are? smh"

Leon, with all that shaking of your head at me, I am concerned about a brain concussion. Please go to the doctor and have your head checked out.

As far as acidic comments, what I said was not acid or corrosive at all. I was simply pointing out that Bishop Ussher's date should be enough for you.
---Monk_Brendan on 4/11/16


Jerry: Rather than Bishop Ussher's questionable (misleading) math, does the Bible actually give a more accurate way of calculating the exact year of the flood?
---Leon on 4/11/16


Monk: If you didn't have anything positive to contribute to this blog why didn't you just keep your acidic comments to yourself? Were you trying to show us how Christ-like you are? smh
---Leon on 4/11/16


I find it interesting that the date of the flood (2348 BC) calculated by Bishop Ussher comports well with the highly accurate accelerator mass spectrometer-measured Carbon 14 dates of ALL fossils in ALL strata.



---jerry6593 on 4/11/16


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Leon,
The two obstacles I first stated,Nephilim and giants before and after the flood must be considered before hand to claim the flood actually happened as the Bible said it did with only 8 survivors from the flood event.
No offense to you
---Earl on 4/11/16


Earl: Are you questioning what the Bible says? Why? What is your source of review?
---Leon on 4/10/16


Did the flood occur at all?
Two obstacles must be reviewed.
1st.The Nephilim were on Earth before the flood and after.
2nd.The giants were also.
Only 8 survivors was claimed to have survived.
---Earl on 4/10/16


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