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Faith for Faith said, "...discovering TRUTH, you would have already read the INCIDENT AT ANTIOCH at wikipedia ...is the Council OF JERUSALEM that made the final decision that caused the disciples in ANTIOCH to be first called "Christians",....

Faith, the incident that you are talking about was after Peter and Paul had spent a year ministering together at Antioch. The incident you are talking about happened some time later.

But Acts 11:26 says, And when he (Barnabas) had found him, (Saul) he brought him unto Antioch. And it came to pass, that a whole year they assembled themselves with the church, and taught much people. And the disciples were called Christians first in Antioch.
---Monk_Brendan on 7/1/16


fff, how can you spread understanding about anything when you are clearly confused yourself?

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 7/1/16


IF you were really serious about discovering TRUTH, you would have already read the INCIDENT AT ANTIOCH at wikipedia and understood (as scripture says) that the COUNCIL mentioned in Acts is the Council OF JERUSALEM that made the final decision that caused the disciples in ANTIOCH to be first called "Christians", but you NEVER DID because you'd rather believe only what is TAUGHT.

Go ahead and continue to believe what you wish.

I'm not trying to CONVINCE anyone of anything against their will, I'm only offering UNDERSTANDING to whoever wants it (it seems to be that I have been enabled to do that.

I piped, but you did not respond properly (dance).
---faithforfaith on 6/30/16


Faith for faith said, "The final decision of the Council of Jerusalem was that the disciples/students of Jesus should be called "Christians", before that time (the name of the first century church) the disciples were MEMBERS OF THE WAY (they SPIRITUALLY BELONGED TO the body that hung on the cross)."

This is incorrect! They were first called Christians in Antioch, and not Jerusalem, AND it was an insult. "Those people over there are Christians, and they drink human blood."
---Monk_Brendan on 6/30/16


Act 16:6 having been forbidden by the Holy Spirit to speak the word in Asia.

The final decision of the Council of Jerusalem was that the disciples/students of Jesus should be called "Christians", before that time (the name of the first century church) the disciples were MEMBERS OF THE WAY (they SPIRITUALLY BELONGED TO the body that hung on the cross).

JESUS Himself called the Pharisees CHILDREN OF HELL.
Those who claim to be Jews but are not also built the golden calf).
---faithforfaith on 6/29/16




\\ because the Jewish Council wanted to retain the practice of "circumcision" (the 7 churches did the same).\\

Are you talking about the Council of Jerusalem in Acts 15? It REJECTED circumcision for Gentile Christians.

And since the 7 Churches of Asia Minor in Revelation were GENTILE Churches, they would not have practiced it.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 6/29/16


Obviously, it is very easy for a person to come up with an objection of what I've written and anything else ever said by anyone, but if you'd like to be reasonable, logical and understand what is printed in scripture, you'll realize that there would be no need for criticism of the 7 churches if everything was just fine.

If you've ever read the INCIDENT AT ANTIOCH wikipedia, you'll notice that the disciples/students of Jesus became known as "Christians" because the Jewish Council wanted to retain the practice of "circumcision" (the 7 churches did the same).
---faithforfaith on 6/25/16


FWIW, in pre-Nikonian Slavonic, only the FIRST word in a sentence is capitalized. That means that Jesus and other divine or personal names appearing in the middle of a sentence are not.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 6/25/16


faithforfaith:

You shouted: THE JEWS DID NOT INCLUDE GOD'S SPIRIT IN DEVOTION.

That's because they considered God's spirit (which WAS mentioned in scripture) as a part of God. We don't include Jesus's big toe, or pancreas, or nose in devotion either, because we consider those to be parts of him, and not separate entities.

this is the FIRST capitalization at the mention of Jesus by name.

Capital letters were invented long after scripture was written (and exist in Greek, but not in Hebrew), so any capital letters you see in your bible reflect the bias of the translators (whether right or wrong), and not the original text of the scripture.
---StrongAxe on 6/24/16


\\Jhn 1:31 I myself did not know him...JOHN THE BAPTIST DID NOT KNOW GOD'S SPIRIT.\\

Luke 1 says that John the Baptist would be filled with the Holy Spirit from his mother's womb, if the message of the Angel Gabriel to Zechariah means ANYTHING AT ALL.

How could John the Baptist be filled with the Holy Spirit, and yet not know Him?

Please explain.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 6/24/16




Jhn 1:31 I myself did not know him...JOHN THE BAPTIST DID NOT KNOW GOD'S SPIRIT.

Act 19:2 "Did you receive the Holy Spirit when you believed?" And they said, "No, we have never even heard that there is a Holy Spirit."...THE JEWS DID NOT INCLUDE GOD'S SPIRIT IN DEVOTION.

Mat 1:18 she was found to be with child of the Holy Spirit,..
......this is the FIRST capitalization at the mention of Jesus by name.

Jhn 7:39 which those who believed in him were to receive, for as yet the Spirit had not been given, because Jesus was not yet glorified

God's Spirit was provided as teacher when Jesus ascended. The Jews chose to keep observing Mosaic law ("circumcision") instead of receiving the Spirit.
---faithforfaith on 6/24/16


Gerald
I would love to hear about your dream. (Acts 2:17) supports the possibility, your dream was from God.
Forgive those who have attacked you, they attack out of ignorance, not out of hate.
---David on 6/24/16


Faith for faith said, "The churches in Revelation are not GENTILE churches, they are JUDAIZER...only accepted Jesus ON THE CROSS (Messiahship) but did not accept the Holy Spirit ...

The Jews of those church/temples preferred to keep observing Mosaic ...

As far as the Churches mentioned in Revelation, they were various bodies of believers, and they had accepted the Holy Spirit.

By the time John penned Revelation, the Holy Spirit HAD come.

And the Holy Spirit (by that name) was mentioned in Psalm 51:11 Cast me not away from thy presence, and take not thy Holy Spirit from me.

Please remember that there were no capital letters in any of the original texts.
---Monk_Brendan on 6/23/16


Faithforfaith is an ultradispensationalist, no doubt.
---john1944 on 6/23/16


//Then why are specific Gentile CHURCHES mentioned?//
John writes to Jews
Gal 2:9 And when James, Cephas, and John, who seemed to be pillars, perceived the grace that was given unto me, they gave to me and Barnabas the right hands of fellowship, that we should go unto the heathen, and they unto the circumcision.
Revn 1:4 "John to the seven churches" The seven Jewish churches, remember. These are the result of scattered Jews. that were scattered out of the Jewish Jerusalem Church, which had begun in Christs earthly ministry. Peter at Pentecost, and in those succeeding years when Saul brought in persecution, and those Jews scattered and established synagogues.
---michael_e on 6/23/16


faithforfaith:

You wrote: There is NO return except IN the heart and soul/mind of the worshiper (Jesus came into my heart and soul....,THIS is how He returned to me).

I never saw Him on a cloud


Do you have any evidence for this perspective, other than subjective experiential opinion?

(Revelation HAPPENED to the JEWS).

When, exactly, did the seven bowls, trumpets, etc. happen, 1/3 of all life die, all ocean life die, and Jesus slay all his enemies with the sword from his mouth?
---StrongAxe on 6/23/16


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The churches in Revelation are not GENTILE churches, they are JUDAIZER churches, they only accepted Jesus ON THE CROSS (Messiahship) but did not accept the Holy Spirit that Jesus brought.

The Jews of those church/temples preferred to keep observing Mosaic law instead of the divine Spirit as teacher (the Spirit had not been given yet, John 7:39).

In the O.T. (RSV), God's Spirit was not included in worship/devotion (the "H" was not capitalized until Matthew 1).
---faithforfaith on 6/23/16


\\Revelation was written to and for the JEWS.\\

Then why are specific Gentile CHURCHES mentioned?

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 6/23/16


Pretrib premillinelist might be a minority in the world. But not in the U.S.

The left behind books and movies are from this group.

The dispensational school of theology is very strong in Baptist churches.
---Samuelbb7 on 6/22/16


There is NO return except IN the heart and soul/mind of the worshiper (Jesus came into my heart and soul....,THIS is how He returned to me).

I never saw Him on a cloud (Revelation HAPPENED to the JEWS).

Revelation was written to and for the JEWS. They were slaves/servants of God, we are SONS of God, not slaves/servants. The first chapter says that it is for the slaves/servants. SONS are not slaves/servants.
---faithforfaith on 6/22/16


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//only a MINORITY of Christians believe in a pre- (or possibly MID-) tribulation Rapture//
My young friend throughout biblical history how many times is the minority right?
---michael_e on 6/21/16


Gerald_Persley asked about prophetic dreams.

Gerald, first, there is nothing in current events that has anything to do with end times. The reason I'm saying this is in Matt 24:3-33. We have wars and rumors of wars--they have been going on since the time of Christ. It is when everyone is saying "Peace" that you have to worry.

When North Korea stops its militaristic plunge toward nuclear war, when China and Russia kiss and make up, when a million of other brush fires get put out, and people really are meaning Peace, then you can worry a bit.

Personally, I don't see any of these things happening, so I refuse to worry about End Times
---Monk_Brendan on 6/20/16


\\Catholics just believe Jesus will return once and if you are alive on earth at that time you will fight (Good and the Bad) until the end.\\

Actually, Nicole, only a MINORITY of Christians believe in a pre- (or possibly MID-) tribulation Rapture.

It wasn't even HEARD of until about 1830.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 6/20/16


I can't get a Protestant to answer this question.

Where does it states Jesus is coming 2 more times? Instead of once.

Some believe in what I call a 2nd coming and a 'Drive Thru'.

The Drive Thru, because some said Jesus will come again, but in the air for the good people to join Him.

7 yrs later, Jesus will return AGAIN but touch ground to finish the fight to add more people who fought the battle well and are saved.

Catholics just believe Jesus will return once and if you are alive on earth at that time you will fight (Good and the Bad) until the end.

No floating up into the Heavens. You will only float up into Heaven after you have been martyr on earth.

No one gets to desert the battle. No one.
---Nicole_Lacey on 6/19/16


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"How do I start a blog about a Prophetic dream I had and start a conversation of current events relating to Jesus Second Coming?"
As you can see, the blog has been started. Please feel free to now start the conversation. How do you believe current events relate to Jesus' second coming?
---joseph on 6/19/16


First off, how do you know this was a true prophecy that you had in a dream?

Many people, Including one who shall be nameless here, have claimed to have prophetic dreams and messages that were actually false ones.

Jesus promised us He would return. He also said that only the Father knew when this would happen.

Anything beyond this is mere speculation and superfluous and even dangerous.

As He Himself said in a parable on the matter, "Occupy until I come." IOW, continue in your proper appointed tasks.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 6/19/16


Gerald, you just started one.
---john1944 on 6/19/16


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