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A quote "The Catholic teachings are the wrong direction, the right direction is written in the Gospel of Jesus Christ."

Which, exactly, of the teachings of the Roman Catholic Church are the wrong direction for being saved?

One issue at a time please. No shotgunning.

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Now I know what type of Christian you are. You're one that thinks he can write his own bible his own way, and interpret what he wants to as coming from the false god he is worshiping.
---Monk_Brendan on 7/9/16


Brendan
When Christ comes to gather me and those who worship him as I do, you will discover the God I worship is the God of Abraham, Isacc and Jacob.

My hope, is that you make this discovery before the Lord returns so that you will be among us. But to make this discovery, you must follow the Gospel of Jesus Christ, and leave the Catholic doctrine behind.

No matter how many miles you travel, if your on the wrong road, you will never reach your desired destination. The Catholic Church is the wrong road.
---David on 7/11/16


Monk_Brendan wrote: "It (sic) the singing of "Just as I am" 20 times while waiting for sinners to come down the aisle and give their hearts to Christ vain repetition? Yes or no, and then give me a reason why."

Singing songs/psalms and praying are two completely different things. Singing songs/psalms is uplifting the heart to praise God. Praying on the other hand is talking with God (as though you would your best friend) about some specific concern like a sickness to be healed.
---Steveng on 7/10/16


David said, "Were the doctrines you mention created by God or by men? If they are not written in the bible, doesn't this prove they were created by men?"

Yes. Search the Scriptures, and you will find them.

But I said this: "I doubt you are a heretic, so which type of Christian are you?"

Now I know what type of Christian you are. You're one that thinks he can write his own bible his own way, and interpret what he wants to as coming from the false god he is worshiping.

In other words, a HERETIC!
---Monk_Brendan on 7/9/16


Mar 8:33 But when he had turned about and looked on his disciples, he rebuked Peter, saying, Get thee behind me, Satan: for thou savourest not the things that be of God . . .
---aservant on 7/8/16

And yes Aservant, Jesus could be speaking these very words to you right now, by preaching a false gospel.
---kathr4453 on 7/9/16


Mar 8:33 But when he had turned about and looked on his disciples, he rebuked Peter, saying, Get thee behind me, Satan: for thou savourest not the things that be of God . . .--aservant on 7/8/16

Don't you fear God?

Jesus also fed Peter and the others breakfast and told Peter to feed His lambs, tend and feed His sheep after His resurrection.

Are you suggesting Jesus left us to satan to tend and feed us?
---Nicole_Lacey on 7/9/16




. . . Jesus exhorted us to "Love one another, as I have loved you"?

We can disagree on our theology and not lose our love for one another.
---Mark_Eaton on 7/8/16


This is Jesus talking sharply to his disciple who was being puppeteered by Satan. He still loved him.

Mar 8:33 But when he had turned about and looked on his disciples, he rebuked Peter, saying, Get thee behind me, Satan: for thou savourest not the things that be of God . . .
---aservant on 7/8/16


Then you must be Catholic or Orthodox or Non-Chalcedonian.The only other thing left is Protestant.---Cluny on 7/8/16

Actually I go by one of the following titles, Child of God, Follower of Jesus Christ, or Believer.

Were the doctrines you mention created by God or by men? If they are not written in the bible, doesn't this prove they were created by men?
---David on 7/8/16


Well I am a Protestant.

We are saved by Faith or Believing on the LORD JESUS CHRIST.

Act 16:31

And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house.


Romans 3:28

Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law.

The problem I have with some other Protestants is that they stop there.

Romans 6:1-7 What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound? God forbid. ...
---Samuelbb7 on 7/8/16


I just know that the 'Sinner's Prayer' isn't in the Bible for Salvation.

But Baptism is cited in the Bible OVER AND OVER for Salvation.

The RCC follows Jesus' instructions for Salvation.

Holy Eucharist and Baptism

Only 2 things Jesus said is needed for Eternal Life.

Mark 16:16
Whoever believes and is baptized will be Saved, whoever does not believe will be condemned.

John 6:54
Whoever eats My Flesh and drinks My Blood has eternal life, and I will raise him on the last day.
---Nicole_Lacey on 7/8/16


\\Just so you know, I am not a Protestant, nor do I believe we can save ourselves.
\\

Then you must be Catholic or Orthodox or Non-Chalcedonian.

The only other thing left is Protestant.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 7/8/16




David said, "Just so you know, I am not a Protestant, nor do I believe we can save ourselves."

David, there are just two types of Christians in the world.

1. The pre-reformation Churches that follow the classic creeds and have sacraments, Liturgies, etc.

2. Those that have come about from the Protestant reformation.

Then there are heretics, that preach a different gospel.

I doubt you are a heretic, so which type of Christian are you?
---Monk_Brendan on 7/8/16


I am sad when I read these blogs.

Such a lack of compassion, love, and kindness for one another.

I have chosen to remain in the shadows for months reading the blogs but not responding to them. As a result, I have witnessed your disrespect, hostility, and animosity for one another.

I am shocked. You act like the world.

Have we not read where Jesus exhorted us to "Love one another, as I have loved you"? Did Jesus love us like the world?

Jesus and His Father loved us with an unconditional love, not a love that says you need to look like me, think like me, and sound like me.

We can disagree on our theology and not lose our love for one another.
---Mark_Eaton on 7/8/16


Your welcome Brendan.
Just so you know, I am not a Protestant, nor do I believe we can save ourselves.

I believe Jesus Christ, through his Gospel teachings and his sacrifice, gave everyone the opportunity to be saved through a relationship with God.

A relationship that would have been impossible without Jesus Christ, because without his sacrifice, there would be no remission of sin, the very sin which separates us from God. (Isaiah 59:2).

God chooses who he saves, and you can not be saved without being in a relationship with him.
---David on 7/8/16


Aservant, we've all heard this bogus doctrine here for sometime. The ones GIVEN TO JESUS were the Apostles. They were given from God to Jesus out of the ELECT ISRAEL.

John 17:20 is the verse we should all now focus on. Now that includes all of us. All those who BELIEVE on me through THEIR ( the apostles) word, which is the Gospel they were sent out to preach. Whosoever means all.

Any doctrine that EXCLUDES is a CULT. The Gospel is not to some SECRET SOCIETY. In the OT the elect is Israel. In the NT the elect is the CHURCH. Even in the OT a Gentile could join Israel, just as Ruth did and becoming part of the elect Israel.
---kathr4453 on 7/8/16


A Servant said, "Rom 3:12 . . . none doeth good." That means you can't either! None, includes me and every other saved Christian.

Why can't Jesus save me? You personalized the question, I personalized the answer.

"You have not been given to Him." A better answer would be: No one can be saved if they have not been given to Jesus.

you know the mind of God so well? No one knows the mind of God. See Is 55:9.

We only know Him by His Scripture, His actions, and His anointing.

---Monk_Brendan on 7/7/16
---aservant on 7/7/16


More drivel and poppycock from Michael: "The Holy Spirit is not residing in you. Would God (the Holy Spirit) have your lack of compassion, especially since you are wrong?"

For someone that is writing a lot of WRONG things, you don't have a plethora of compassion either.
---Monk_Brendan on 7/7/16


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A Servant said, "Rom 3:12 . . . none doeth good "

That means you can't either!

Why can't Jesus save me?

"You have not been given to Him."

Oh? and you know the mind of God so well? Poppycock!

You wouldn't know God's mind if it came up and barked at you!

This is foolishness. Electionism is a false doctrine preached by a false prophet/preacher who led his flock away from God, and supplied a cruel demon to replace Him
---Monk_Brendan on 7/7/16


. . . any more than you can pick up "faith only" or "once saved always saved" . . . doctrines that the Protestants have pulled from their armpit ---Monk_Brendan on 7/6/16

The Holy Spirit is not residing in you. Would God (the Holy Spirit) have your lack of compassion, especially since you are wrong?

Since God makes no mistakes, Rom 11:29 For the GIFTS and calling of God ARE WITHOUT REPENTANCE.

Eph 2:8(ERV) I mean that you have been saved by grace because you believed. You did not save yourselves, it was a GIFT from God.

God does not retrieve His gifts, thus salvation cannot be lost or taken back.
---aservant on 7/7/16


David said, "Brendan
I appreciate the honesty in your answer, and I couldn't agree more on the Protestant teachings."


Thank you!

"They also believe, "You can not save yourself". The irony is, when listening to most Protestants giving their salvation testimonies, will tell you they were saved the day, "They" were baptized, or the day, "They" said the sinners prayer. Thereby saving themselves by what "They" did."

Thereby relieving God of an awesome responsibility!
---Monk_Brendan on 7/7/16


\\ Why can't Jesus save me?

You have not been given to Him.
\\

Neither were you, aservant.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 7/7/16


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You cannot dig down in the Bible and pull up Catholicism, any more than you can pick up "faith only" or "once saved always saved" or any of a number of doctrines that the Protestants have pulled from their armpit in the past 500 years.---Monk_Brendan

Brendan
I appreciate the honesty in your answer, and I couldn't agree more on the Protestant teachings.

They also believe, "You can not save yourself". The irony is, when listening to most Protestants giving their salvation testimonies, will tell you they were saved the day, "They" were baptized, or the day, "They" said the sinners prayer. Thereby saving themselves by what "They" did.
---David on 7/7/16


Re: vain repetitions

Here is the (Strong's) Greek definition

Mat 6:7 But when ye pray, use not vain repetitions,


vainG945


G945
& #946, & #945, & #964, & #964, & #959, & #955, & #959, & #947, & #949, & #769, & #969,
battologeo & #772,
bat-tol-og-eh'-o
From & #914, & #945, & #769, & #964, & #964, & #959, & #962, Battos (a proverbial stammerer) and G3056, to stutter, that is, (by implication) to prate tediously: - use vain repetitions.
---aservant on 7/7/16


Servant, how is it that you see me as evil when I am, indeed, good?

Rom 3:12 . . . none doeth good


Why can't Jesus save me?

You have not been given to Him.

Jn 17:12 . . . those thou gavest me I have kept, none are lost . . .


That smacks of election, which is something I TOTALLY reject.

Your words show you are not saved, and the Holy Spirit is not inside you. You reject God's right to choose to whom he gives His gift to.
---Monk_Brendan on 7/5/16

Is 65:22 . . . mine elect H972 = chosen
Mat 24:31 . . . his elect G1588 = chosen
---aservant on 7/6/16


\\I don't believe James was referring to confession of sin in this verse.\\

I do.

David, I KNOW that under the circumstances you mentioned, I would find Eastern Orthodox Christianity.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 7/6/16


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David said, "If you were all alone on and Island, with no previous experience with any doctrine, and all you had to read was the Gospels of Jesus Christ, do you really believe, by the Gospel teachings alone, you would find the Catholic religion?"

No, I would be too busy surviving to have time to read.

However, to answer your question, No! But with no previous faith experience, I might not be able to understand the Bible.

You cannot dig down in the Bible and pull up Catholicism, any more than you can pick up "faith only" or "once saved always saved" or any of a number of doctrines that the Protestants have pulled from their armpit in the past 500 years.
---Monk_Brendan on 7/6/16


Aservant,
I don't believe James was referring to confession of sin in this verse. I believe he was talking about humbling ourselves to one another. ---David on 7/6/16



This is the (Strong's) Greek definition of the word faults in Jas 5:16.

faultsG3900


G3900
& #960, & #945, & #961, & #945, & #769, & #960, & #964, & #969, & #956, & #945,
parapto & #772,ma
par-ap'-to-mah
From G3895, a side slip (lapse or deviation), that is, (unintentional) error or (wilful)

transgression: - fall, fault, offence, sin, trespass.
---aservant on 7/6/16



Jas 5:16 Confess your faults one to another, and pray one for another . . .
---aservant


Aservant,
I don't believe James was referring to confession of sin in this verse. I believe he was talking about humbling ourselves to one another.

David, why won't you believe me when I say that I am trusting in God's promises as well, and not in vain repetitions.---Monk_Brendan on 7/5/16

Brendan
If you were all alone on and Island, with no previous experience with any doctrine, and all you had to read was the Gospels of Jesus Christ, do you really believe, by the Gospel teachings alone, you would find the Catholic religion?
---David on 7/6/16


Servant, how is it that you see me as evil when I am, indeed, good?

"Mat 1:21 JESUS shall save ONLY His people

Joh 6:44 No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him"


Okay, I am a man, and not a collie. Why can't Jesus save me? The Father has drawn me. Is it because I am not of His people?

That smacks of election, which is something I TOTALLY reject. God so loved the WORLD that He gave His...There is no provision in that verse that says anything about EXCEPT CATHOLICS, or even EXCEPT BRENDAN. If there is, and you can show it to me, then I will leave the monastery, go back to normal clothes and live on SocSec for the rest of my days.

May God bless you richly
---Monk_Brendan on 7/5/16


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Monk, I'm talking about the Biblical definition of OVERCOME.
---kathr4453 on 7/5/16


Kathr said, "...Are you an overcomer Monk? "

Even if I have OVERCOME in all things that have befallen me up to this time in my life, yet what will happen tomorrow? I don't know. Will Fr. Basil die, or I be overcome with a deadly disease, or many of the things we have no knowledge of? I HOPE (and believe) that God will give me the grace to go through whatever the trials are for tomorrow, but there is no KNOWLEDGE of what will happen until it happens.

I have done all I can. I have placed my life in the hands of the Lord. All is well with me me NOW. But I have also written my will, I have some burial insurance, and both Fr. Basil and Fr. Peter (my pastor at Church) know about what I desire for end of life issues.
---Monk_Brendan on 7/5/16


Hebrews 11:17 By faith Abraham, when he was tried, offered up Isaac: and he that had received the promises offered up his only begotten son,
1 Peter 1:7 That the trial of your faith, being much more precious than of gold that perisheth, though it be tried with fire, might be found unto praise and honour and glory at the appearing of Jesus Christ:
James 1..count it all joy when you fall into various trials, knowing the testing of your faith WORKETH patience, and let patience have her perfect work. that you would be PERFECT AND ENTIRE LACKING NOTHING.

The WORKS OF FAITH comes throu trials we are put through here and now. Faith is for the LIVING, not the dead. Job said through his trial...I shall come forth as GOLD.
---kathr4453 on 7/5/16


Which, exactly, of the teachings of the Roman Catholic Church are the wrong direction for being saved?
---Monk_Brendan on 6/29/16


These Scripture show that doctrine has nothing to do with being saved.

Mat 1:21 JESUS shall save ONLY His people

Joh 17:12 Jesus will not fail to save any He was given

Eph 2:8-9 Salvation is a gift purchased by Jesus Blood - Acts 20:28

Joh 6:44 No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him . . .


Mark 16:16
John 3:16-17
Acts 2:38
Romans 10:9

Completing above actions validate those who belong/owned by Jesus - 1Cor 6:19-20/7:23
---aservant on 7/5/16


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David said, "...When I felt I needed God, he was there for me, as as according to his promise."

David, why won't you believe me when I say that I am trusting in God's promises as well, and not in vain repetitions. On the other hand, Jesus did tell us: Saying, There was in a city a judge, which feared not God, neither regarded man: And there was a widow in that city, and she came unto him, saying, Avenge me of mine adversary. And he would not for a while: but afterward he said within himself, Though I fear not God, nor regard man, Yet because this widow troubleth me, I will avenge her, lest by her continual coming she weary me. Luke 18:2-5 KJV
---Monk_Brendan on 7/5/16


David, are all repetitions necessarily vain ones?

Or only the ones made by Roman Catholics and other pre-Reformation churches, but never your own?

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 7/5/16


Brendan
To answer your blog question more directly, the biggest flaw in the Catholic teachings, is in the confession of sin.

Sin should be confessed before God and God alone, because only God can cleanse you of sin.
---David on 7/2/16



Jas 5:16 Confess your faults one to another, and pray one for another . . .
---aservant on 7/5/16


Rev 3:18. I counsel thee to buy of me gold tried in the fire, that thou mayest be rich, and white raiment, that thou mayest be clothed, and that the shame of thy nakedness do not appear,

Here is a clue to gold silver and precious stone vs wood hay and stubble. Now the question is Monk, exactly how does one BUY Gold and white raiment? The answer is In Scripture. Ans, OUR FAITH is tried by fire. So what we are building on the foundation Paul laid is our works of FAITH. The testing of our faith. FAITH IN WHAT OR RATHER WHO? You? NO!
---kathr4453 on 7/5/16


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Is the singing of "Just as I am" 20 times while waiting for sinners to come down the aisle and give their hearts to Christ vain repetition?
---Monk_Brendan on 7/4/16


Absolutely, and another good example of the practices of men not found in the bible. A practice that does more harm than good, for many who come forward, fall away.

Those who stay, follow the doctrine which brought them to Christ, instead of Gods Holy Spirit. I came forward at one of these services, only to fall away. I fell away because I didn't receive what was promised.

I discovered many years later, these were the promises of men, not the promises of God. When I felt I needed God, he was there for me, as as according to his promise.
---David on 7/5/16


Monk, reading your previous posts here, it appears you have left out a very important part. If you read the 7 letters to the ChurcheS in Revelation, now remember these are Jesus words, not John's or Pauls or Peters. Read each one carefully. It says the GRAND PRIZES go to those who OVERCOME. It talks about works yes, but even one shows they got so busy working and doing they left their first LOVE in all the busyness.

Now we do see in 1st John a more detailed description of what OVERCOME MEANS, and who the OVERCOMERS are. So Monk the goal is to OVERCOME. Paul in Philippians 3 shows by example the way to overcome. Are you an overcomer Monk?
---kathr4453 on 7/5/16


"Sir, Tell us, where in 1 Cor 3:12:15 is Paul the apostle teaching..."Hope for Salvation."??

V 13 Every man's work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire, and the fire shall try every man's work of what sort it is.

If all you have laid up for yourself in your life is wood, hay and stubble, then when it is tried by fire (PURGATORY!), it will all burn away. You might escape, but only by the skin of your teeth.

What I have been trying to say is that you have to apply what God has given you--Feed the hungry, give drink to the thirsty, clothe the naked, etc. (All works). Then you will not have to worry about all your works being burned up.
---Monk_Brendan on 7/4/16


Brendan states, "What I was saying is that God works, and if we are made in His image, we should work to perfect ourselves so that we may grow closer to God,"

Sir, Jn 5:17 isn't addressing this matter it is the Lord Jesus Christ defending his deity.

Did you read vs 24?


Sir, Tell us, where in 1 Cor 3:12:15 is Paul the apostle teaching the Corinthians to, "Hope for Salvation."??
---john9346 on 7/4/16


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2Thess 1:11 Wherefore also we pray always for you, that our God would count you worthy of this calling, and fulfil all the good pleasure of his goodness, and the work of faith with power:.

Obedience of FAITH, work of faith. Our works of faith through the LAW OF FAITH is simply yielding to God. Paul also said, I glory in my weakness that the Power of God rests upon me. Romans 6..we yield ourselves to God, submit to His will. This is all done by faith that works through LOVE. Agape Love, not human love. Mature Christians are NOT closer to God than a baby Christian. That thought and teaching is SELFRIGHTEOUSNESS, AND is steeped with pride.
---kathr4453 on 7/4/16


Kathr said, "This is an unfortunate statement concerning ones idea of work. First we cannot "perfect ourselves".

We are COMMANDED to be perfect, so if God tells us to do it, it is something that we can work on. Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect. Matt 5:48 (KJV)

"Secondly, the idea of having to work to grow closer to God is wrong too..."

Why? don't you want to get as close to God as you can? I do, so I obey (A WORK) God, and do His will!

If you want to be left polishing the streets of gold after everybody walks on them all day, that's good for you. I want to just be with Him in the Heavenly Banquet!
---Monk_Brendan on 7/4/16


David said, "Isn't saying the same prayer over and over again, vain repetition? If not please explain why it isn't."

I will answer you if you will answer this question straight, and give an explanation.

It the singing of "Just as I am" 20 times while waiting for sinners to come down the aisle and give their hearts to Christ vain repetition? Yes or no, and then give me a reason why.
---Monk_Brendan on 7/4/16


What I was saying is that God works, and if we are made in His image, we should work to perfect ourselves so that we may grow closer to God
---Monk_Brendan on 7/3/16

This is an unfortunate statement concerning ones idea of work. First we cannot "perfect ourselves". Secondly, the idea of having to work to grow closer to God is wrong too. Both statements show the WRONG idea of what work is. This kind of work is SELF EFFORT, the wrong teaching of the RCC. Monk, my children are as close to me today as they were the day they were born.
---kathr4453 on 7/4/16


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(Matthew 6:7) When you pray, do not speak in vain repetitions as the heathens do, for they think they shall be heard for their many words.

Brendan
Isn't saying the same prayer over and over again, vain repetition? If not please explain why it isn't.
---David on 7/4/16


Kathr said, "OR did Abraham simply OBEY what God asked him to do?"

Kathr, OBEDIENCE IS a work! Don't you get it?

Or are you just so blinded by anti-Catholic bigotry that you can't see the truth when it is staring you right in the face?
---Monk_Brendan on 7/4/16


Now if any man build upon this foundation gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, stubble, Every man's work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire, and the fire shall try every man's work of what sort it is. If any man's work abide which he hath built thereupon, he shall receive a reward. If any man's work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved, yet so as by fire. 1Cor 3:12:15 KJV

"...you state this in cite Jn 5:17 which is a defense by Christ, but did you read on to vs24??"

What I was saying is that God works, and if we are made in His image, we should work to perfect ourselves so that we may grow closer to God
---Monk_Brendan on 7/3/16


Monk_Brendan wrote: "The repeated prayers are just as effective--even more so--that endless repetitions of..."

Jesus is very specific in what not to do. We must NOT repeat the same prayer over and over again. Repeated prayers benefit the mind, true prayers benefit the heart. Prayers are nothing more than communication with God the same way you talk with a very close friend. God wants a close relationship with each person. Prayers are to be specific in nature. Pray examples are peppered throughout the bible, learn from them.
---Steveng on 7/3/16


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Monk, according to...let's say James, faith without works is dead....correct. I agree with this statement. Then James gives an example using Abraham. So exactly what was Abraham's works in James? First I see the example of the sacrifice of Isaac. Oh but was this something Abraham just thought up to do? OR did Abraham simply OBEY what God asked him to do? But Abraham was already justified by Faith long before ISaac was born wasn't he? So I see works as being obedient to the will Of God. And only those who are already JUSTIFIED can obey God in the first place. Simply saying, God works in US to will and do of His Good pleasure.
---kathr4453 on 7/3/16


Brendan,

You state:

"John, as I have said to you before, we must have BOTH grace AND works in order to do well in heaven."

Tell us, what is your definition of "Doing Well." in heaven?

"And I do hope for salvation, because it is not guaranteed until the Judgment and then it is too late."

Sir, ironic you state this in cite Jn 5:17 which is a defense by Christ, but did you read on to vs24??
---john9346 on 7/3/16


Brendan,

You cited many verses could you explain 1 by 1 where they unequivocally teach, "Hope for salvation."

Lets start with Jn 5:17 are you aware sir that this is a defense of the Deity of Christ...

Interestingly enough is vs 24

"Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation, but is passed from death unto life."


Note, "Has Eternal Life." not will have

Note, "Has passed from death to life." not will pass.
---john9346 on 7/3/16


Kathr said, " We are simply working out what God FIRST has worked in. It is God who is working in you to will and to do of His good pleasure. This means we have a work to do here on earth while we are still here on earth. Ephesians says, we are HIS WORKMANSHIP to walk in the works HE has before ordained that we should walk in. This is directed to those already saved."

GOD IS THE AUTHOR AND FINISHER OF OUR SALVATION! But that does not mean that we don't have to cooperate with Him. And the cooperation is itself a WORK!
---Monk_Brendan on 7/3/16


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Kathr said, "This means we have a work to do here on earth while we are still here on earth."

OHHH! so you do believe in works!

You've been railing against works for a while here, and now you're talking about our work to do here on earth. Which is it? Works or Faith?
---Monk_Brendan on 7/3/16


We are simply working out what God FIRST has worked in. It is God who is working in you to will and to do of His good pleasure. This means we have a work to do here on earth while we are still here on earth. Ephesians says, we are HIS WORKMANSHIP to walk in the works HE has before ordained that we should walk in. This is directed to those already saved.

Interesting verse in Rev...blessed are those who die in the Lord...and their works do follow.
---kathr4453 on 7/3/16


\\Do you think that means that theyre going to work for their salvation, or does it mean something else?\\

Please note the rest of the verse: God works in you both to will and to do.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 7/2/16


Michael E. said, "...Do you think that means that theyre going to work for their salvation, or does it mean something else?"

Can you read properly, my old and venerable? It says work OUT your salvation, not salvation by work alone.

I am working out my salvation. I am not perfect yet (as you and God know). As I work to become more closely attuned to the Lord's will. (Matt 5:48 says Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.)

I am not there yet. Neither, I am afraid, are you. How am I supposed to get there without prayer, Bible Study, fasting, etc.?
---Monk_Brendan on 7/2/16


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// "Work out your own salvation with fear and trembling.."//
A good scripture my young friend.
Do you think that means that theyre going to work for their salvation, or does it mean something else?
---michael_e on 7/2/16


From the Orthodox view point, grace and works are NOT opposed to each other, but are two sides of the same thing.

Any good work we might do is actually the result of grace.

As St. Paul said, "Work out your own salvation with fear and trembling, for it is God Who works in you BOTH to WILL and to DO."

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 7/2/16


Brendan
To answer your blog question more directly, the biggest flaw in the Catholic teachings, is in the confession of sin.

Sin should be confessed before God and God alone, because only God can cleanse you of sin. There is a cleansing when folks confess before God, a cleansing not experienced when one confesses sin before a priest.

It's the experience of this cleansing, which shows this to be Truth. Not by my words, but by Gods action, taken according to his promise. (1 John 1:9).

When this confession becomes daily, you will begin to feel a tremendous guilt for even the smallest sin. This Guilt is there because now you are in the light of God.
---David on 7/2/16


Earlier I said, "You believe as a monk that you can work your way to God as you Previously Stated, "I am encouraged by relying on His sacred Word, to hope for salvation."

To which some people took exception.

If anyone is to be saved, they must have faith in God, and hope for their salvation.

so worship I the God of my fathers, believing all things which are written in the law and in the prophets: And have hope toward God, which they themselves also allow, that there shall be a resurrection of the dead, both of the just and unjust. And herein do I exercise myself, to have always a conscience void to offence toward God, and toward men. Acts 24:14-16
---Monk_Brendan on 7/2/16


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John 9346 said, "You believe as a monk that you can work your way to God as you Previously Stated, "I am encouraged by relying on His sacred Word, to hope for salvation."

Okay, here is why I say that. 2Tim 1:15 Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.

Matt 5:16
John 5:17
Acts 9: 36-41
Rom 13:10
1 Cor 3:14-15
1 Cor 15:58
And the 2nd Chapter of James

John, as I have said to you before, we must have BOTH grace AND works in order to do well in heaven.

And I do hope for salvation, because it is not guaranteed until the Judgment and then it is too late.
---Monk_Brendan on 7/1/16


John 1944 said, "You are just guessing about where I worship now. You don't really know."

You are right. I don't know. For this I apologize.

Where do you worship now?
---Monk_Brendan on 7/1/16


Brendan ask, "WHY CAN'T ANYONE GET THE IDEA THAT GOD WANTS ME TO BE AN EASTERN CATHOLIC MONK, AND THAT I AM DOING HIS WILL?!!!!!"

First, this is meant in love to you sir as that I like your dialogging.

You believe as a monk that you can work your way to God as you Previously Stated, "I am encouraged by relying on His sacred Word, to hope for salvation."

You also stated, "What does one have to do to be a "True" Christian?" "The only way you can find out is to wait until the judgment day, and be told by God."

My friend, this is "Patently Unbiblical."
---john9346 on 7/1/16


David said, "Words, plus obedience to God, create faith. Jesus said, The wise man does what He tells them to do. Jesus taught the promises of God, and his Gospels are replete with those promises."

David, I have obeyed God and listened to His word. I have done all the things that everybody on these blogs is accusing me of not doing.

WHY CAN'T ANYONE GET THE IDEA THAT GOD WANTS ME TO BE AN EASTERN CATHOLIC MONK, AND THAT I AM DOING HIS WILL?!!!!!
---Monk_Brendan on 7/1/16


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Brendan
It's very difficult to turn someone from a false doctrine. I discovered long ago, words are just words, and they alone can not change a persons mind.

Words, plus obedience to God, create faith. Jesus said, The wise man does what He tells them to do. Jesus taught the promises of God, and his Gospels are replete with those promises.

Abram was not a man of great faith, but he became Abraham, a man of great faith. How did he do it? Would Abram have become Abraham if he had not done what God told him to do?

Read and you will learn, Abram grew in faith, because he discovered God keeps his promises. Notice in Gods promises, there is always an action required by us, for God to do what he promises he will do.
---David on 7/1/16


Micha said, "Rom 8:1 [There is] therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit."

For a while, in my young and foolish days, I attended an AOG church in Illinois--before I moved to Arid zona.

Every time I went to Sunday School, Every time I went to the main Sunday service, My attendance was barely tolerated. Now remember, I was saved, filled with the Holy Ghost, the whole nine yards. Yet whenever the preacher preached, I fell under condemnation.

I finally figured it out, if there is nothing wrong with me, it must be the church. I stopped going, and went back to the RCC (where I was at the time). I never felt condemned again.
---Monk_Brendan on 6/30/16


Brendan, you don't need to be snarky. I was just explaining why I left. You are just guessing about where I worship now. You don't really know. The confessional is rather useless if the priests are not pretty uniform about what they say about a particular sin. For instance, one priest told me that it was all right for me to attend Protestant services with my wife. Another priest told me it was a terrible mortal sin. After that I only went to the church my wife attended and quit going to the Catholic Church. It may interest you that the pastor at the church my wife attended never told me it was a sin for me to go to the Catholic Church.
---john1944 on 6/30/16


Well I don't believe once saved always saved..
---Samuelbb7 on 6/29/16

I too have heard you say this many times.

Yet, you say you have assurance in your salvation. How can you have assurance in your salvation if you are not saved for all time?

The assurance of my salvation is in the finished work of Jesus. Only Jesus could make the offering that was necessary to reconcile me to God, so my assurance must rest on Jesus. When I become His child, I am forever His child, (unless before that time His truth withers, dries up, or is choked out - Luke 8)

Heb. 10:14 "For by one offering He has perfected for all time those who are sanctified"
---Mark_Eaton on 6/30/16


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/Wonderful--so you go to a church that has a warm fuzzy liturgy, where the Bible is the only thing they preach, and you fall under condemnation. What do you do then? There is no confessional.\-Monk_Brendan on 6/29/16
Rom 8:1 [There is] therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
Jam 5:16 Confess [your] faults one to another, and pray one for another, that ye may be healed. The effectual fervent prayer of a righteous man availeth much.
1Jo 2:1 My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous:
1Ti 2:5 ...one mediator...
Confessional?
---micha9344 on 6/30/16


Have you ever been IN a confessional?

The repeated prayers are just as effective--even more so--that endless repetitions of "Just as I Am" while waiting for people to fall under condemnation.

The point of the prayers is for discipline, and correction. But they also give you an invitation to meditate on the sufferings of Christ on the Cross.

For people whose walk with Christ is a bit shaky, maybe the prayers are all they can handle. But do not discourage them in these prayers, and they may mature and find that the person is able to pray from the heart.
---Monk_Brendan on 6/30/16


\\Well I don't believe once saved always saved. But I know my Lord Jesus Christ will save me unless I turn from him. So I have assurance of Salvation in Christ. \\

This is what I've said many times: Our faith should be in Christ Himself and not a theory about how He saves us. The two are NOT the same.

THIS is what eternal security means. We seek our security in God' Son, Who is eternal, and not our own act of faith, still less our own feelings.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 6/30/16


John 1944 said, " As a Catholic, I had no assurance of my salvation. I never knew whether I had committed a mortal sin or a venial sin. I never know what kind of advice I was going to get in the confessional either. Some priests said a certain sin was very serious, and another priest would say it wasn't serious at all. So I just gave up."

Wonderful--so you go to a church that has a warm fuzzy liturgy, where the Bible is the only thing they preach, and you fall under condemnation. What do you do then? There is no confessional.
---Monk_Brendan on 6/29/16


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Well I don't believe once saved always saved. But I know my Lord Jesus Christ will save me unless I turn from him. So I have assurance of Salvation in Christ.

As for sins. When we sin we are to repent and turn from them. No matter how big or little. Jesus can save us from any sin. When we turn to him.
---Samuelbb7 on 6/29/16


Repeated prayers.

No matter what the sin, the priest in the confessional will rattle off a number of prayers to repeat and you're forgiven. That's not how prayers work. All the prayers in the bible were of a different specific purpose. Prayers are nothing more than speaking to God as you speak to your close friend about the concerns in your life. Prayers are also like writing in your personal journal, you wouldn't keep repeating the same entry over and over again, would you?
---Steveng on 6/29/16


As a Catholic, I had no assurance of my salvation. I never knew whether I had committed a mortal sin or a venial sin. I never know what kind of advice I was going to get in the confessional either. Some priests said a certain sin was very serious, and another priest would say it wasn't serious at all. So I just gave up.
---john1944 on 6/29/16


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