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Last Rights of the Church

Fred is dying. A priest came to hear his confession and give him the last rights. Fred refused to submit, unless the priest reads and agrees to Fred's little manifesto about Church reform.

Please get all the people you can, ask them to pray for Fred to receive the Last Rights of the Church.

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cluny: "kathr has had MORE THAN A WEEK to come up with evidence of gnosticism in the RCC among the Eastern Orthodox."

What an insensitive _______! Kathr has been in the hospital with a heart condition. Also, the blogs were blocked for a week. If ignorance is bliss, you must be a happy guy.



---jerry6593 on 8/2/16


kathr has had MORE THAN A WEEK to come up with evidence of gnosticism in the RCC among the Eastern Orthodox.

Furthermore, kathr has provided NO EVIDENCE of the Orthodox Church basing her doctrines on visions.

Are you just making accusations w/o evidence--spreading slander, iow?

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 8/1/16


kathr4453:

You wrote: I know a GNOSTIC statement when I see one

It might interest you to know that gnostics believed that the demiurge (creator god) is evil and imperfect, while the supreme being is perfect. Thus, Christian gnostics logically identify Jesus as the perfect supreme being, and the devil as the evil one.

What gets wierd is this. They identify the God of the old testament as the creator - i.e. the evil one - and the serpent of Eden, the one who tried to bring knowledge to man, as the good one. So, the God of Genesis 1 is the devil, and the serpent of Eden is Jesus - a direct reversal of Christian belief.

I can't believe any Christians today (except maybe some extreme cults) would believe this.
---StrongAxe on 8/1/16


\\You fail to acknowledge, well documented too, that Augustine studied under Gnostics. \\

WRONG AGAIN, kathr!

Augustine did study Manicheanism--NOT gnosticism--for a while, but he repudiated it.

\\That all your visions and extra Biblical this and that is in fact Gnosticism//

What visions have I quoted? Be precise.

How about your own extra-biblical stuff like invitation hymns, "personal Savior", and "accepting Christ"?

\\ And the RCC as well as Orthodox is [sic] steeped with Gnosticism. \\

Give specific examples of gnosticism in Orthodoxy, kathr.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 7/22/16


Kathr asked me, "Again, do you all ever THINK before speaking?"

Yes, Kathr. I not only think, I PRAY before I speak. You are saying that the Promise of God is potent to save. I am saying that God Himself is potent to save. You are the one that is using your imagination to populate the world with an invisible Israel that no one can see, but God has promised all these good things to.

You are following some imagined false image of God that only makes promises to a few that have some higher knowledge of Him, believing that the higher promises will get you into heaven and leave me (for instance) out.
---Monk_Brendan on 7/22/16




Cluny, just throwing out an accusation without backing it is is how 5th grade girls get into slap fights. You act like a 5th grade girl. You fail to acknowledge, well documented too, that Augustine studied under Gnostics. That all your visions and extra Biblical this and that is in fact Gnosticism. And the RCC as well as Orthodox is steeped with Gnosticism. Of course you don't know what it is, by its true definition, because you have redefined it. Just like you have the 2nd commandment, Salvation, adding Pergetory, which does not exist, except in your IMAGINATION you claim came from God. Just to name a few.
---kathr4453 on 7/22/16


\\ No Cluny, I know a GNOSTIC statement when I see one, which shows ignorance on you as well. \\

Wrong again, as in almost everything you say, kathr.

If you DID know a gnostic statement, you would know you were making one.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 7/21/16


No Cluny, I know a GNOSTIC statement when I see one, which shows ignorance on you as well. I'm sure Gnostics put faith in God apart from the Word of God too, not seeing the part stated in PROMISES, that Jesus came to save our soul, and that through His precious PROMISES, we are partakers of HIS DIVINE NATURE.

To criticize someone for having faith in His Promises, exalting oneself as having a faith above and beyond that is making an ignorant statement based on WHAT?? One's own IDEA apart from scripture of God? That IS Gnosticism= ignorance.
---kathr4453 on 7/20/16


\\Monk, that may sound high and lofty to the ignorant\\

Like you, kathr?

Glory to Jesus Christ1
---Cluny on 7/20/16


You can put your faith in promises if you want to. I have put all of my faith in God, Father, Son, and Holy Spirit
---Monk_Brendan on 7/19/16

Monk, that may sound high and lofty to the ignorant, however those who are grounded in scripture know our FAITH is in the Promises of God. What you promote here is faith in your imagination of what you believe God to be, not what He SAID. Israel , the NATION has put their faith in God too, yet rejected the PROMISE of the redeemer, and the promise of salvation through Jesus Christ.

Again, do you all ever THINK before speaking?
---kathr4453 on 7/20/16




Galatians 3:14 That the blessing of Abraham might come on the Gentiles through Jesus Christ, that we might receive the promise of the Spirit through faith.

Galatians 3:22 But the scripture hath concluded all under sin, that the promise by faith of Jesus Christ might be given to them that believe.


Monk your last statement was ignorant. You may want to look up every verse using the word PROMISE. Otherwise you promote a distorted WOF doctrine of faith in your own imagination, expecting God to jump at YOUR command, rather than you bowing to HIS WORD.

Even your first Pope Peter says you CANNOT be partakers of His divine nature unless you put your faith in HIS PROMISES. Wow, what you are missing out on is truly sad.
---kathr453 on 7/20/16


Kathr said, "Traditions seems to look as though you put the power in your own hands for salvation."

Far from it. The power of salvation (mine or Fred's) comes from God. Fred knew that, I know it too! But you put your faith in the traditions of man, as well, when you went to the altar and gave your life to God

"The promise IS the promise of Salvation. God cannot lie. A promise is a promise. That is why we put our faith in HIS PROMISES, not in mans traditions. There are no promises in the traditions of man."

You can put your faith in promises, if you want to. I have put all of my faith in God, Father, Son, and Holy Spirit
---Monk_Brendan on 7/19/16


Brendan: Your concern for your friend is indeed admirable. It is true that sometimes people with severe illnesses don't think clearly, and we must cut them some slack. But, more importantly, our God is a merciful God who understands all of the circumstances involved, and will give Fred every benefit of the doubt. After all, God's mercy is us sinners' only hope.



---Jerry6593 on 7/17/16


Romans 1:16 For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth, to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.

Traditions seems to look as though you put the power in your own hands for salvation.

Ephesians 1:13 In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation:
in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise,..... The promise IS the promise of Salvation. God cannot lie. A promise is a promise. That is why we put our faith in HIS PROMISES, not in mans traditions. There are no promises in the traditions of man.
---kathr4453 on 7/17/16


Clunky, exactly what do you believe the Gospel of your salvation is? You say a Theory? But you would rather go by TRADITION OF THE RCC?

The Gospel of our salvation is no theory unless you believe the death, burial and resurrection of Jesus Christ is a theory. Again Cluny, you simply do not think things through before you open your mouth. For someone who struts his superior intelligence here, you are rather daft at times. But you will say anything to argue.....against scripture itself. That's actually something other than being daft. It's actually evil. The Bible is very CLEAR on exactly what the Gospel of our salvation is. If you can't see it, then you are blind.
---kathr4453 on 7/16/16


//We're saved by Christ Himself, not a theory about how He saves us.//
Apparently you believe Christ did nothing to save you.
Here is a "theory"
1 Cor 15:1 Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand, 2 By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain. 3 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures,
4 And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:
---michael_e on 7/16/16


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//That is an incredibly tasteless thing to say! I can now tell you something. Fred was a RC Priest.//
Monk, I am truly sorry for your loss, hoping Fred accepted what Christ had done for him on the Cross, him being a priest has no meaning to me.
You said he had recently confessed and been absolved, had received the Eucharist, and been anointed, Is that when he received salvation?
---michael_e on 7/16/16


Michael E said, "Only one faith was taught by Paul as the gospel."

And the other Apostles were selling rotten eggs?

ALL of the Apostles were teaching the Good News about Jesus Christ, not just Paul. And they really did go out to the ends of the earth. The point I am driving at is that we are supposed to be following Jesus, and not Paul. Jesus is much more important that Paul OR Peter.
---Monk_Brendan on 7/16/16


\\ Precious Father, Monk disputes what many Scriptures mean. \\

WRONG AGAIN, as in everything you say.

Monk Brendan disputes what YOU say they mean.

There's a big difference, but I don't think you can grasp it.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 7/16/16


Michael E. said, " Monk, sorry for your loss, hoping Fred accepted what Christ had done for him on the Cross."

That is an incredibly tasteless thing to say! I can now tell you something. Fred was a RC Priest.

With that in mind, he accepted what Jesus had done for him on the Cross several times. He was baptized. He received the Eucharist time and time again. When God called him to the priesthood, he heard and followed that call. When he was ordained, he accepted Jesus again! Finally, in his last days, he received absolution, the Eucharist, and a final anointing. I'm sure that in one of those times, he accepted Christ, don't you?
---Monk_Brendan on 7/16/16


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\\We are saved by trusting the gospel of our salvation\\

Wrong, michael_e.

We're saved by Christ Himself, not a theory about how He saves us.

ANYTHING other than Christ, even "the gospel of our salvation", becomes an idol when we put our faith in it.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 7/16/16


We are saved by trusting the gospel of our salvation, not by faith in feelings, churches, popes, religious systems, good works, hard work, church going, angels, miracles, or any of the millions of things people of faith believe.
The gospel of our salvation is the finished work of Christ on our behalf (1Cor 15:1-4 Eph1:13).
One thing saves. Only one faith is acceptable. Only one faith was taught by Paul as the gospel. That is faith in Christs death for our sins, his physical burial, and literal resurrection for our eternal life.
Christs cross work is what saves. Is your faith in that?
---michael_e on 7/15/16


---Monk_Brendan on 7/12/16

Lev 17:11 For the life of the flesh is in the blood

Rom 8:10 . . . Spirit is life . . .

Dt 12:23 . . . for the blood is the life

Mat 1:21 JESUS shall save His people

Is 65:22 . . . mine elect H972 = chosen

Precious Father, Monk disputes what many Scriptures mean. Though Scripture shows Your will, he somehow seems to think that disagreeing with Word that You Authored is cooperating with You. I humbly ask that You open his understanding - Lk 24:45. Thank You for minimizing Fred's suffering.

Praise You, bless You, in Jesus' name.
---aservant on 7/15/16


\\Monk, sorry for your loss, hoping Fred accepted what Christ had done for him on the Cross.
---michael_e on 7/1\\

Where does the Bible say to do this, michael e?

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 7/15/16


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///Fred died about 6:30 this morning, AZ time. May his memory be eternal.

For those that believe in the soul after death, please continue to pray for God to have mercy on his soul.

As you might remember, he had recently confessed and been absolved, had received the Eucharist, and been anointed.
---Monk_Brendan on 7/15/16///

Sorry for your loss Monk...
---Leon on 7/15/16


Monk Brendan Your friend is dead and his confession and repentance took care of his sins right then. We don't need to pray for a soul God has already forgiven and redeemed. Your friend is already in the waiting place whether it be heaven or Paradise . Please believe me I know it's not your way but think about this it is a much sweeter way to know your friends soul is already covered by God's love and forgiveness. Remember I told about my Great grandma saying for a while right before she died I see the Golden Streets,and I see Bart,and I see Duncan(her husband) they were ready to welcome her in. We don't need to pray for his soul we need to praise God for taking him home out of that sick flesh and he is saved. May this comfort you.
---Darlene_1 on 7/15/16


Monk, sorry for your loss, hoping Fred accepted what Christ had done for him on the Cross.
---michael_e on 7/15/16


Fred died about 6:30 this morning, AZ time. May his memory be eternal.

For those that believe in the soul after death, please continue to pray for God to have mercy on his soul.

As you might remember, he had recently confessed and been absolved, had received the Eucharist, and been anointed.
---Monk_Brendan on 7/15/16


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A Servant said, " Truth is its own defense. Anyone who disputes with God, and not believe His Word has been blinded by Satan. God does not lie."

I'm not fighting with God! You are the one that keeps calling me lost, and blind, and words to that effect.

And I have been telling you that I have been cooperating with God's will, and God's plan of salvation since I was 26 years old. If you don't believe me, that is YOUR problem, not mine.

Little boy, your arms are too short to box with God!
---Monk_Brendan on 7/14/16


Nicole_Lacey wrote: "BTW, how are you going to know Jesus' Will if you don't simply talk to Him via PRAYER?"

I didn't write talk "to" him, I wrote talk "with" him. There is a huge difference. Talking "to" God is when you do all the talking. Talking "with" God is when the both you you talk.

BTW, I don't do Jesus' will, I do God's will.
---Steveng on 7/14/16


---Monk_Brendan on 7/12/16

2Co 4:4 In whom the god of this world (Satan) hath blinded the minds of them which believe not . . .
Eph 4:18 Having the understanding darkened, alienated from from the life of God through the ignorance . . . in them, because of the blindness of their heart:

Aa I said, the Truth is its own defense. Anyone who disputes with God, and not believe His Word has been blinded by Satan. God does not lie.

What you perceived as attacks, were efforts to open your eyes.

Notice how God blames the blind for being blind.
---aservant on 7/14/16


A Servant said, "The Truth in and of itself is an absolute defense. Truth is not seen or understood in context by those who seek to be blind or by those who are blinded by Satan."

You're still not denying it. You are free to post your opinion. But calling someone blinded by satan because he does not agree with you is truly a failing, and a judgment. Be careful!
---Monk_Brendan on 7/14/16


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\\Truth is not seen or understood in context by those who seek to be blind or by those who are blinded by Satan.\\

Just like you, aservant. You neither see nor understand truth.

And you seem to rejoice in your blindness.

Though as Jesus Himself said, "Because you say, 'I see,' your sin remains."

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 7/14/16


Hey, I notice you're not denying the facts about lying on these blogs about facts.---Monk_Brendan on 7/12/16

The Truth in and of itself is an absolute defense. Truth is not seen or understood in context by those who seek to be blind or by those who are blinded by Satan.

2Cor 3:14
2Cr 4:4
Eph 4:18
2Pet 1:9
1Jn 2:11
---aservant on 7/13/16


Still another update:

Fred is pretty far gone--he may only have a few hours left. Please pray the Nunc Dimittis for a happy, peaceful death

(Nunc Dimittis--Lord, now lettest thou thy servant depart in peace, according to thy word: For mine eyes have seen thy salvation, Which thou hast prepared before the face of all people, A light to lighten the Gentiles, and the glory of thy people Israel.) Luke 2:29-32 KJV
---Monk_Brendan on 7/12/16


\\Why was he in a lot of pain last night?
\\

Probably because he's dying of metastatic cancer of unknown origin.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 7/12/16


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As Darlene said, we are and will continue to pray for both.

Monk, I was a Hospice Nurse.
Why was he in a lot of pain last night?

They can give him enough opioids in a safe manner to keep him from suffering, but not taking his life before God's time.

This is the time for Hospice to be at his side 24/7.
To give Sister Mary Clare rest and to completely care for Fred.

Monk, do remember Pope Francis made 2016 the Year of Mercy.

What a year to die!

Glory to God, He is always Merciful and Kind!
---Nicole_Lacey on 7/12/16


Michael E. said, "Monk a little reading exercise Rob is spelled ROB
ROB WROTE THIS
Monk Brendan, why is it so many people are quick to quote what is written in Matthew 7:1-2, but they avoid what is written in Matthew 7:3-6, like it's the plague?

---Rob on 7/9/16
YOU WROTE TO ME
Michael, speaking about avoiding verses like they plagues, how about John 6:27-69?"


Yes, I know. As soon as I had realized what I had done, I posted an apology, but I guess the moderator wants me to look like a fool, so he/she deleted it.
---Monk_Brendan on 7/12/16


A servant said, "And you are on me about sarcasm."

Hey, I notice you're not denying the facts about lying on these blogs about facts.

Thank you.

As far as sarcasm, it is a weakness in me that I have to always be on my guard. Sometimes I fail. Mea Culpa.
---Monk_Brendan on 7/12/16


Last night, I said, Another update on Fred:

Fred is now comatose. He was in a lot of pain last night. Please continue to lift him up in prayer."


Well, Fred is doing better, he woke up this morning. He is still sleeping a lot, and he is refusing to eat. Keep him in prayer.
---Monk_Brendan on 7/12/16


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a.)Short answer--If the shoe fits...

Long answer--If you will take the time to scroll down through what you have written (I'm sure you know how to do that)

b.)Oh, when did you take that sequoia out of your eye?---Monk_Brendan on 7/11/16


And you are on me about sarcasm.

Hypocrisy ill becomes you.
---aservant on 7/12/16


Monk Brendan I will surely be praying for both of them. May God give her strength and help. May Fred be comforted by seeing the Streets of Gold if this is God's time for him.My Great Grand Mother had cancer and relatives sat with her when they could,they rotated. After about a year she began talking,my Mom was there and heard her, Oh look at the beautiful streets of Gold" and sometimes "there's Bart,there's Duncan. Bart was a son,Duncan her husband both died in the bad Flu epidemic. When she passed Mom and her sister were there and just as G G mother went to heaven my Aunt looked up and saw a filmy, wispy,opaque white thing leave from G G mother's head. She was 92 years old and very dedicate to God.
---Darlene_1 on 7/11/16


Monk a little reading exercise Rob is spelled ROB
ROB WROTE THIS
Monk Brendan, why is it so many people are quick to quote what is written in Matthew 7:1-2, but they avoid what is written in Matthew 7:3-6, like it's the plague?

---Rob on 7/9/16
YOU WROTE TO ME
Michael, speaking about avoiding verses like they plagues, how about John 6:27-69?

And why did you post this on THIS blog? I try not to hijack blogs you start. Please, this blog is about Fred, and HIS needs

---Monk_Brendan on 7/9/16




---michael_e on 7/11/16


Another update on Fred:

Fred is now comatose. He was in a lot of pain last night. Please continue to lift him up in prayer.

Also, please lift up Sister Mary Clare, his long-time caretaker, now in a power chair herself, and quite worn out.
---Monk_Brendan on 7/11/16


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Praying is simply communicating with God (as you would to a close friend) about your daily concerns.---Steveng

If you truly believe that, why do you object when Catholics simply communicating with Mary, Saints and Angels?

You can't have it both ways.

Study these for a while:

Luke 6:46
Why do you call Me Lord, Lord, but not do what I say?

LUKE 22:42
Father, if You are willing, take this cup from Me. Yet not My will, but Yours be done.

You can speak to God ALL DAY LONG, but if you are not doing HIS WILL it will not go well with you.

Don't just give Jesus lip service.

Serve Him at all time.

BTW, how are you going to know Jesus' Will if you don't simply talk to Him via PRAYER?
---Nicole_Lacey on 7/11/16


Michael E. said, "Please explain why you would call me a liar?"

Short answer--If the shoe fits...

Long answer--If you will take the time to scroll down through what you have written (I'm sure you know how to do that) you will see that on two separate occasions you have denied saying that you had said anything about avoiding verses. It's in the written record of THIS blog!

Or can you read only what you think are good comebacks from you to me?

BTW, I will bee more than happy to say TWO sacks full of Hail Marys for the Virgin Mother to intercede to Christ on your behalf for the salvation of your soul.
---Monk_Brendan on 7/11/16


Monk try reading this
//Monk Brendan, why is it so many people are quick to quote what is written in Matthew 7:1-2, but they avoid what is written in Matthew 7:3-6, like it's the plague?
---Rob on 7/9/16 //
Please explain why you would call me a liar?
---michael_e on 7/10/16


I call upon the other people on these blogs to witness that on this particular blog, on 7/9/16 Michael said, " Monk Brendan, why is it so many people are quick to quote what is written in Matthew 7:1-2, but they avoid what is written in Matthew 7:3-6, like it's the plague?"

I commented upon that, and he said on 7/9/16, "Monk I have asked you before read before you write
I have said nothing about avoiding verses."


Again I commented, and again he has lied, saying, "Monk, where did I say this, have you lost your ability to read? Another sack full of hail marys for you."

Michael, Ten hours, one your knees, speaking in tongues and confessing your sin before God
---Monk_Brendan on 7/10/16


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Nicole_Lacey wrote: "You are wrong! True prayer is accepting the Will of God the Father."

Do some bible study. Read all the prayers that are written in the bible.

Praying is simply communicating with God (as you would to a close friend) about your daily concerns.
---Steveng on 7/10/16


True prayers would be to heal that person of any sickness. The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is the god of the living, not the dead.---Steveng

Fred is still alive, so God is his God as well.

You are wrong! True prayer is accepting the Will of God the Father.

Cluny, you need a Priest for the Anointing of the Sick.

Monk, my prayers are with Fred. I am sure many others are praying but not blogging about their prayers.

God knows their hearts.

Funny, how Protestants ask for prayers all the time here on CN. But let a Catholic ask and the same sound bite comes out of their mouth.

'Go and pray to Jesus yourself.'

Fred will be grateful for you Monk, for having taking much insults on his behalf.
---Nicole_Lacey on 7/10/16


Monk said
// Michael E. said, " Monk Brendan, why is it so many people are quick to quote what is written in Matthew 7:1-2, but they avoid what is written in Matthew 7:3-6, like it's the plague?"//
Monk, where did I say this, have you lost your ability to read? Another sack full of hail marys for you.
---michael_e on 7/10/16


aservant: Didn't the thief confess & repent of his sins for himself, & ask Jesus to forgive him? Shouldn't Fred do the same?---Leon on 7/8/16

See Lk 23:39-43 The thief confessed that his punishment was deserved, and demonstrated faith in Jesus' ability to to take him to Heaven, but he never said that he was sorry for his sin.

Jesus' example was to ask the Father to forgive the ignorant, those who dont' know what they are doing. I don't know Fred or know if He has an ability to repent, so I repented as his intercessor. Because Monk seems to love him and Cluny - 1Jn 4:21, and because I agree with Fred's desire to see reform in Jesus' Bride, the Church, I was led to intercede for him.
---aservant on 7/10/16


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Monk brendan, I have judged no-one. I have said that it is GOD who knows the heart. God will judge the man according to HIS knowledge and we should keep right out of it. No thanks I don't need you to post any more verses to me.

My first sentence makes it clear that I know that God is the ONLY judge and I fail to understand how you think my words indicate that I am judging this man of whom I know absolutely nothing. Maybe you need to take a little longer in reading (and responding to) the posts of others.
---Rita_H on 7/10/16


Michael E. said, " Monk Brendan, why is it so many people are quick to quote what is written in Matthew 7:1-2, but they avoid what is written in Matthew 7:3-6, like it's the plague?"

I questioned him about some verses that he might avoid, and he replied, "I have said nothing about avoiding verses."

LET THE SEEKER AFTER TRUTH BEWARE!
---Monk_Brendan on 7/10/16


Let the dead give last rites to the dying. This is man's traditions and rituals.


True prayers would be to heal that person of any sickness. The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is the god of the living, not the dead.
---Steveng on 7/10/16


Rob said, " Monk Brendan, why is it so many people are quick to quote what is written in Matthew 7:1-2, but they avoid what is written in Matthew 7:3-6, like it's the plague?"

Oh, when did you take that sequoia out of your eye?
---Monk_Brendan on 7/9/16


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Monk said
//Michael, speaking about avoiding verses like they plagues, how about John 6:27-69?//
Monk I have asked you before read before you write
I have said nothing about avoiding verses.
Another sack full of hail marys for you
---michael_e on 7/9/16


Michael, speaking about avoiding verses like they plagues, how about John 6:27-69?

And why did you post this on THIS blog? I try not to hijack blogs you start. Please, this blog is about Fred, and HIS needs
---Monk_Brendan on 7/9/16


Monk Brendan, why is it so many people are quick to quote what is written in Matthew 7:1-2, but they avoid what is written in Matthew 7:3-6, like it's the plague?
---Rob on 7/9/16


AN UPDATE ON FRED

He has been moved to Hospice. He is not very responsive. However, after he arrived at hospice he was able to receive the Eucharist.

(I know, for a lot of you it means nothing. For me and the other Catholics and Cluny, it means a lot. Indulge us.)

The staff has told his caregiver that he may have a few days left. Please continue to pray.
---Monk_Brendan on 7/9/16


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There are other things involved, such as the Apostolic Pardon, Litany for the Dying, and Commendation of the Soul, that are also part of the Last Rites, which is not just Anointing and Viaticum.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 7/9/16


Nicole said, "Monk, the RCC is asked everyone to stop calling it the Last Rites, because people think one shouldn't ask for this Sacrament unless you are dying."

My bad. I grew up in the RCC in the old days, before Vatican II.

I know the correct name is Anointing of the sick, however, we had been told he might not make it through the day. I am still thinking in terms of Extreme Unction.
---Monk_Brendan on 7/8/16


Rita H said, " Only God knows the heart of the individual and 'the last rites of the church' will have no bearing on this."

And you know the Mind of Christ so well? Who are you to even imply judgment on a child of God? That is very dangerous for you. Judge not, that ye be not judged. For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again. Matt 7:1-2 KJV

I have several more verses like that on tap. Do I need to post them all?
---Monk_Brendan on 7/8/16


Moderator, most people say Last Rites, when it should be VIATICUM which is the LAST and Greatest Sacrament (Eucharist- Holy Communion) given to a dying person:

CCC: Our final sharing in the Eucharist is VIATICUM, the food for the final journey of the believer to heaven itself.

But, Anointing of the Sick (which some call Last Rites mistakenly) can be given multiple times.

Anointing of the Sick is when Holy Oil (Blessed on Holy Thursday by the Bishop and given to all Priests. Enough Holy Oil for the year until the next Holy Thursday) is applied to a person's forehead with a blessing of a Priest as cited in James 5:14-15.

Confession only is a Person if capable to speak(mentally well also).
---Nicole_Lacey on 7/8/16


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My bad also, I wasn't sure if it was something I was not familiar with. I think it would be interesting for everyone to know more detail about The Last Rites if you don't mind explaining. Thanks!
---Moderator on 7/8/16


Since Fred had brain cancer, the Priest didn't even have to hear his confession.

The Anointing of the Sick would have forgiven all his sins as cited

James 5:14-15
---Nicole_Lacey on 7/8/16


///...It seems Monk is honoring your Word... pleading others to pray Fred into submission.

...Fred seems convicted to fight for reform of the Bride of Christ [?], I humbly ask that You cleanse Fred with the Blood of Jesus, which purchased all of Your chosen.

I confess on Fred's behalf that He has sinned against you. I ask that You forgive him completely, in Jesus' name...I ask that you receive Fred unto Yourself in Paradise, as Jesus chose the thief, Jehovah Elohe Yeshuathi. Thank You...---aservant on 7/7/16///

aservant: Didn't the thief confess & repent of his sins for himself, & ask Jesus to forgive him? Shouldn't Fred do the same?
---Leon on 7/8/16


Nicole and others: Fred was carried to the hospital late last night. My guts tell me this is a one-way trip.

Pray for him.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 7/8/16


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AMEN! to your statement Leon.

Monk, the RCC is asked everyone to stop calling it the Last Rites, because people think one shouldn't ask for this Sacrament unless you are dying.

True name is the Anointing of the Sick.

Only God knows the heart of the individual and 'the last rites of the church' will have no bearing on this--Rita_H

The RCC OBEYS and FOLLOWS God and HIS WORD and written Words.

James 5:14-15
Is anyone among you sick? He should SUMMON the presbyters (Priests) of the CHURCH, and they should PRAY OVER him and ANOINT (Last Rites)him with oil in the name of the Lord, and the prayer of faith will save the sick person, and the Lord will raise him up. If he has COMMITTED ANY SINS, he will be FORGIVEN.
---Nicole_Lacey on 7/8/16


Glory to God!

Fred relented yesterday, and was able to receive the Last Rites. A priest heard his confession, and said Mass Fred received the Eucharist, and was anointed for healing. Prayers were lifted up for a happy death.

Please keep praying.

Fred has brain cancer, and has been getting more and more confused. The cancer is inoperable, so the medical team have been trying to keep him comfortable, and let him die in peace, without tubes and machines.

Thanks for all who have prayed. May God bless you richly.
---Monk_Brendan on 7/8/16


Moderator--the Last Rites (my mispelling)!
---Monk_Brendan on 7/7/16


Precious Father, Please give ear to my cry. Fred is the second person that I've seen Monk intercede for.

Jehovah Elohim, You require that we love neighbors as we love ourselves. It seems Monk is honoring your Word on that issue, pleading others to pray Fred into submission.

And because Fred seems convicted to fight for reform of the Bride of Christ, I humbly ask that You cleanse Fred with the Blood of Jesus, which purchased all of Your chosen.

I confess on Fred's behalf that He has sinned against you. I ask that You forgive him completely, in Jesus' name. Finally, I ask that you receive Fred unto Yourself in Paradise, as Jesus chose the thief, Jehovah Elohe Yeshuathi. Thank You, Bless you, Precious Father.
---aservant on 7/7/16


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If you know that I am Catholic (which you should), you should know that there are final prayers, Reconciliation with the Church, the Eucharist, and final anointings. We want Fred to go to his Maker in peace and unafraid of the Last Judgment.
---Monk_Brendan on 7/7/16


Fred will spend eternity where God decides he will spend it. Only God knows the heart of the individual and 'the last rites of the church' will have no bearing on this.

Fred has either accepted Christ as his Saviour and has confessed his sins (no need of a priest for that because God is always listening) or he has not.

Jesus forgives the truly repentant sinner. We can all pray for Fred but this will not determine his eternal resting place.

Moderator: It's rites, not rights.
---Rita_H on 7/7/16


Help me understand: Fred is dying, but he's trying to force an ultimatum upon the priest? Fred, not the priest is dying, but Fred wants do it his way? :/

Does the last rites give Fred an opportunity to accept Jesus Christ as Savior & Lord ~ to get right with God? If not, then "Freddie's dead...".
---Leon on 7/7/16


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