Lack Of A Healing
Some Christians are devastated by how pastors treat them when healing does not happen. Pastors accuse that there is lack of faith, or there is a sin in the life of the believer when those who are sick are not healed. Is that true?
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---mike on 8/9/16
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Samuel, Peter is correct. Slowly read the Passage again.
Peter calls Jesus the Corner Stone.
Jesus calls Peter the Rock HE will build His Church on TOP of Peter.
What is a Corner Stone? It's in the corner, thus the name.
And are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner stone, In whom all the building fitly framed together.
You see, Paul agrees
Paul is CALLING Jesus the Corner Stone!
Look up and read it Samuel.
OPEN YOUR EYES!
Jesus, HIMSELF being the corner stone...framing TOGETHER (corner stone holds 2 sides! (Jewish and Gentiles)
Why are you arguing?
---Nicole_Lacey on 9/7/16|
So you say Peter is contradicting Jesus. That Peter doesn't understand what Jesus said. That those who work to build on Peter should ignore the words of peter. So it is okay to not believe the words of peter.
So should we throw out the words of Paul too. Since he doesn't understand the words of Jesus either.
And are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner stone, In whom all the building fitly framed together groweth unto an holy temple in the Lord:
How much of the Bible do you throw away?
---Samuelbb7 on 9/6/16|
//Peter tells us who is the foundation. We should listen to him.//
Better yet, listen to Jesus.
Jesus said Peter is the ROCK foundation of His Church Matt 16:13-19
Jesus NEVER calls Himself the ROCK. Never.
If you disagree please disagree with Scripture.
Jesus calls Himself the CORNERSTONE.
That stone isn't placed underneath but at the corner of two stone. It is very larger stable stone.
//1Peter 2:4-8 To whom coming, as unto a living stone,..Behold, I lay in Sion a chief corner stone..the same is made the head of the corner, And a stone of stumbling, and a rock of offence,...--Samuelbb7
A Corner stone is a rock, but at at different location.
Peter is the foundation LAYED by Jesus.
---Nicole_Lacey on 9/6/16|
Most importanti spiritual healing , Worry more about this life - or future designation ?
---RichardC on 9/5/16|
Peter tells us who is the foundation. We should listen to him.
1Peter 2:4-8 To whom coming, as unto a living stone, disallowed indeed of men, but chosen of God, and precious, Ye also, as lively stones, are built up a spiritual house, an holy priesthood, to offer up spiritual sacrifices, acceptable to God by Jesus Christ. Wherefore also it is contained in the scripture, Behold, I lay in Sion a chief corner stone, elect, precious: and he that believeth on him shall not be confounded. Unto you therefore which believe he is precious: but unto them which be disobedient, the stone which the builders disallowed, the same is made the head of the corner, And a stone of stumbling, and a rock of offence,...
---Samuelbb7 on 9/5/16|
//PETER had that authority. NOBODY ELSE did.//
Not true, Paul taught Timothy and Titus how to be Bishops of their Church.
Please explain 1 Cor 5:1-8?
Paul is throwing some one out of the Church as if he was present. Saying "I pronounce judgment.."
//Yet you claim that a whole slew of others also had the keys. Were they better than the other 11 apostles?---StrongAxe on 9/4/16//
Not better, but Jesus did have His Favorites.
Peter, James the greater and John
But Jesus DID call Peter BLESSED and gave him the keys. Remember it was because God the Father gave Peter the CORRECT answer to Jesus' question. Matthew 16:13-17
---Nicole_Lacey on 9/5/16|
Your faith has healed you. What more can be said?
---Steveng on 9/3/16|
Nicole Lacey Thank you but I have seen it and you are right it is a beautiful story. I am impressed at the number of different species that have had a relationship with another kind. Perhaps we hear about it more but the stories are delightful and a surprise. I love them.
---Darlene_1 on 8/23/16|
Darlene, quick go on the internet and type in 'injured Fox surrounded by family of lions'. It's a beautiful story. It's not a video, but has pictures telling you could what happened to the injured Fox.
---Nicole_Lacey on 8/20/16|
Nicole, I agree with much of what you say. There are, indeed, some pastors in the 'so-called' - healing ministry who give the impression, that it is the sick person's lack of faith which prevented any healing taking place. These pastors want the congregation to see healing (whether real or fake) as it brings in money to their church by attracting more desperate people.
I don't believe that a genuine man of God would blame the sick person. He'd be more likely to say 'perhaps this wasn't the time or place' or that 'maybe God had a better plan for that individual' and would suggest that all the church should spend more time in prayer for the person. We must all remember that everything must be in God's will, even healing someone.
---Rita_H on 8/18/16|
//Nicole, I don't know anyone who has got mad at a pastor when they have not been healed but if they do it will be because their faith is in the pastor and not in God.---Rita_H on 8/17/16
Just read the title of this blog.
A feeling of devastation is worst than getting mad.
//Some Christians are devastated by how pastors treat them when healing does not happen. Pastors accuse that there is lack of faith, or there is a sin in the life...
---Nicole_Lacey on 8/17/16|
Nicole, I don't know anyone who has got mad at a pastor when they have not been healed but if they do it will be because their faith is in the pastor and not in God. Pastors are just a go-between, asking God to heal the sick person. We can do the same if we truly believe that God can heal.
Nowhere in scripture are we told to place our faith in a pastor (who is just another human being on the planet). Likewise, no pastor should ever give the impression that HE is the one who heals (when healings take place in his church). He should always place the emphasis on God and take no credit himself and the person healed should give glory to God for the healing and never say 'that man healed me.'
---Rita_H on 8/17/16|
Rita, you gave the best defense to my question.
But if this is the case, why would they get mad at the Pastor if no healing occurs?
Because you and I know people are truly looking for their Pastor to God on their behalf.
---Nicole_Lacey on 8/16/16|
It is good to have others pray for us when we have health issues. Christians should be able to share with others more than non-Christians can and when we share in this way it often involves prayer to God asking Him to help us with whatever troubles us. When being sick is the problem Christian friends get together, often with the sick person, and pray for healing.
It isn't a case of going to the pastor for healing but more so that the church can, together, pray TO GOD for the person to be healed.
This happened in my church recently when I was very ill and it was wonderful.
---Rita_H on 8/16/16|
Everyone is overlooking one thing:
Why are people going to Pastors for healings anyway?
Why don't you all tell everyone to PRAY to God for a healing instead of asking another man to pray for you?
One set of rules for Catholics and One set of rules for Protestants!
---Nicole_Lacey on 8/16/16|
word of faith movement? really? go to a church & you will hear 99.9% of pastors quote malachi 3:10 - give your 10% & god will shower you with blessings. it is nearly the same thing. I most Christians have that mentality. when you suffer or struggle you are accused of lack of faith, not a Christian. as a matter of fact a person named LUKE said the same thing, accused me of 'you are not a Christian' bec you are struggling.
---mike on 8/15/16|
really? word of faith movement? that is what NON-word of faith pastors teach too. I have plenty of experience from your regular Christians.
---mike on 8/12/16|
NurseRobert I am so pleased to hear that your surgery is over and that God is making it clear to you that He is in charge. Having been in a similar situation recently (and still recovering) I know how it feels. You have a long road ahead of you and God will be with you all the way. It is wonderful to be able to trust a loving God at such times.
---Rita_H on 8/11/16|
Nurse Robert said, Does God heal us?? Yes, I believe he does, in many different ways.
I am ill several different ways. I would love to go to Lourdes to drink the healing water, but so far, I have never found a patron willing to pay my way. Besides that, in the past, I have prayed about it, and God has never given me a release to go.
No big deal. I am being healed spiritually and mentally, if not physically. I am down to four meds a daywell, five, if you count pain killers, so even there I am being healed.
The healing comes from God, and not from any man. Pope Francis, Benny Hinn, any of the others cannot heal. Only God.
---Monk_Brendan on 8/11/16|
Faith healers that blame the parishioner because they don't get healed are frauds, plan and simple.
Does God heal us?? Yes, I believe he does, in many different ways.
4 weeks ago I was diagnosed with renal cancer. Last week I had surgery and had the tumor and kidney removed. I truly believe it was God guiding the hands of the doctor who performed the surgery and I believe I have been healed from this...
Healing comes in many ways. To blame the sick... well, I have no time for hypocrites..
---NurseRobert on 8/10/16|
Jehovah - Rophe - The Lord Heals - Ex 15:25-26
God, The Father is the Healer.
Jn 14:10 Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works.
When folks get healed, it is because the Father has consented to heal them. All flesh involved in God's healing, are just the tools of the "Surgeon", even Jesus.
Anointed, gifted flesh does not have its own power to heal, but they have been given Faith that can activate God's healing. Still, Father must command healing.
---aservant on 8/10/16|
Right! Also, if that were true, it would be doubly true for faith-and-prosperity televangelists who are constantly begging people to send them money. If their ministries were "free of sin", they would not constantly be running out of money (because God fails to provide, due to their sin).
---StrongAxe on 8/10/16|
No, it is not true. It is another lie from a greedy group of people who have realised just how gullible/desperate some 'religious' people are. Some people are so desperate to be cured of their ills they will believe these lies but the bible does not tell us that we must pay for any healing unless we are referring to the charges made for medication etc.
Supernatural healing, if received, was never acquired because of the cash placed in the box of a greedy/corrupt church.
God gives His gifts to whom He chooses and to some He does give the gift of healing but not so that the person with the gift can become a millionaire. The gift is for Him to show the love and power of God to others.
Shame on those who fake this gift.
---Rita_H on 8/10/16|
Mike, this is just one of the many NAME IT-CLAIM IT/PROSPERITY/WORD OF FAITH MOVEMENT LIES.
They tell you if you want to be healed, you must first SOW A SEED, send them money.
If you are not healed, they tell you it is because of your lack of faith, or your seed has become dormant.
To increase your faith or reactivate you dormant seed, you must plant another seed, send more money.
If people would only study their BIBLE, they will know these things clearly go against what is written in SCRIPTURE!!!
---Rob on 8/9/16|
Why some people are healed and some are not, I have no idea. However I know that faith is not something that we muster up through our own strength or force of will and that we all in and of ourselves fall short of the glory of God, and the Father does not discriminate between His children. It is apparent to me that healing is an act of His will, however this only leads me into further confusion, because I know that His will is revealed in His word. According to His word by the stripes of Jesus we, as believers, were healed, the beating was physical, so I have to believe the healing is physical. Why that healing is not manifest in each and every one of us remains a mystery to me. Apart from this reality, Father's grace is sufficient. 2 Co. 12:9
---Josef on 8/10/16|
After giving this question (Is that true?) more thought, I can confidently and honestly answer no, based on the verse I referenced previously. Father reminded me that His Divine influence and loving kindness is enough for me to be content in whatever state I find myself: for His power and virtue matures and completes me spiritually through whatever sickness or disease I may experience in life. Therefore I should rejoice through those trials rather than lamenting in them, that His burden removing, yoke destroying power may rest upon, and work within me. He knows what we can bare and will never allow us to experience more than that, which amount to more for some than others in this life. Therein lies the answer concerning healing.
---Josef on 8/10/16|