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T.D. Jakes National Talk Show

What are your thoughts about T.D. Jakes being given a talk show on national television?

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Matthew 7:15-27, 2Timothy 3:1-9, 13, 4:3-4, 2Peter 2:1-22.
---Glenn on 9/15/16


Well, there are Bible claiming channels which can put on new shows. And to my knowledge T.D. is already established on a number of national channels. So, what else would be new, if this is on a Bible-claiming national channel?

His sermons can have a style of being a dialogue, already. So, going on to having a dialogue show could fit with how he has already been developing.

But do I think he is especially more and better than the rest? I think the Bible gives us much more and better than many people are saying. And we need our real-life Jesus examples who feed us how to get more real and intimate with and pleasing to God and learn how to relate in love with any and all people.
---Bill on 9/15/16


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You truly need to study the bible about "judging" instead of learning by some denomination's opinion.\\Well, you listen to the worldly denominational "church" of Steveng.
---Cluny on 9/11/16


//Nicole_Lacey: "That's JUDGING!"

You truly need to study the bible about "judging" instead of learning by some denomination's opinion.---Steveng on 9/11/16


And you need to study the Bible to realize you are NOT God.
---Nicole_Lacey on 9/11/16


///Leon, I have heard T.D. Jakes his cronies say, the world came into being because God was pregnant, Adam was the first pregnant man, people need to evolve into who they want to be, Christ is not the only way to God and Salvation, Jesus did not die on the Cross because He committed suicide, Jesus and Lucifer are brothers, etc...---Rob on 9/10/16///

Did Jakes say these things or was it his alleged cronies? Like I said, the problem I have with his teachings is that he doesn't believe in the Bible recorded Trinity as being One God in three distinct persons. For me, that nullifies his credibility.
---Leon on 9/11/16




Nicole_Lacey: "That's JUDGING!"

You truly need to study the bible about "judging" instead of learning by some denomination's opinion.
---Steveng on 9/11/16


Leon, I have heard T.D. Jakes his cronies say, the world came into being because God was pregnant, Adam was the first pregnant man, people need to evolve into who they want to be, Christ is not the only way to God and Salvation, Jesus did not die on the Cross because He committed suicide, Jesus and Lucifer are brothers, etc.

When so called preachers say these things, the people stand up, shout Hallelujah amen, Praise the Lord, this alone should be enough to show they don't read the Bible!!!
---Rob on 9/10/16


//Nicole_Lacey wrote: "Have you all seen their bank or credit card statements?"

/I was an investigative news reporter during the 1980s - mostly political and corporate investigations.--Steveng

What does that have to do with Rob complaint?

**People will spend BIG MONEY buying their books, CD's, and DVD's, but they will not READ AND STUDY SCRIPTURE, or spend a dime to hear SOUND BIBLE DOCTRINE.---Rob on 9/4/16//

My question above was directed to Rob about the people he is complaining about not spending a dime on sound Bible doctrine.

Rob and you don't know what people pay to hear.

Nor, if they are NOT reading the Bible.

You both are assuming.

That's JUDGING!

Matthew 7:1
---Nicole_Lacey on 9/10/16


///I'm thankful I was declared to be a SAINT by GOD the very moment I placed my faith in CHRIST for SALVATION.

I didn't have to go through a man made and PAGAN process.

I'm not surprised at all with the many who will spend a lot of money to hear those who have been proven to be FALSE TEACHERS.

People will spend BIG MONEY buying their books, CD's, and DVD's, but they will not READ AND STUDY SCRIPTURE, or spend a dime to hear SOUND BIBLE DOCTRINE.---Rob on 9/4/16///

Rob: The main problem I have with Jakes is he's a Oneness Pentecostal, i.e., doesn't believe in Bible Trinity of God the Father, Son & Holy Spirit being One God & manifested ALL at the same time, together.
---Leon on 9/10/16


Nicole_Lacey wrote: "Have you all seen their bank or credit card statements?"

I was an investigative news reporter during the 1980s - mostly political and corporate investigations. One assignment was to investigate a charity that a certain candidate was donating to. I didn't depend on their financial statements and yearly tax forms, but used IRS Form 990. This form details every dollar of income and expenses - even listing large donors by name. This form gives you the complete wealth of any charity. After the assignment was complete, I thought it would be interesting to find the true wealth of the Roman Catholic Church. I stopped at seventeen trillion dollars of assets and eight billion dollars a year income.
---Steveng on 9/10/16




//Any reward system like that encourages people to under-perform in order to survive. It leads to the dubious (but often true) proverb, "No good deed goes unpunished".
---StrongAxe on 9/9/16//

Sounds exactly like the Democrat Party.



---Jerry6593 on 9/10/16


StrongAxe, it has been reported that Albert Einstein had his daily lunch with an illiterate Grounds Keeper.

When asked how he could have an intelligent conversation with the man, Einstein answered:(I am paraphrasing his answer)

'I am not trying to have an intelligent conversation, but a normal conversation with him. I enjoy his companionship'

Einstein said he was tired of other Scientists always trying to impress him on a daily basis.

He just wanted to speak to a friend.
---Nicole_Lacey on 9/9/16


Rob:

You wrote: Having served in the Army Medical Corps, along with having a Secret Security Clearance, I know more about Krista than she realizes.

Who is Krista, and what did she receive?
---StrongAxe on 9/9/16


Having served in the Army Medical Corps, along with having a Secret Security Clearance, I know more about Krista than she realizes.

A perfect example is I know what she received on August 27, 2013.
---Rob on 9/9/16


Nicole_Lacey:

You wrote: There are plenty of wise housekeeper with more common sense then doctors I worked with during my 22 years as a nurse.

I know. When I was in the hospital, I had a few excellent doctors, but there were many who would pop in (often when I was asleep), ask a bunch of stupid and inane questions (that I had repeatedly answered time and time again), and then left. I had much more respect for, and trust in, most of the nurses, almost all of whom knew very well what they were doing.

My aunt was a nurse, and my mother was a nurse's aide.
---StrongAxe on 9/9/16


StrongAxe, I am not denying Rob's EXCELLENT work on the battle front.

He is the one claiming I DON'T KNOW or have COMMON SENSE in MY field of practice.

First Rob asked me WHAT my cognitive skill were using the WRONG assessment tool.

I POLITELY corrected him and ANSWERED him with a simple average answer.

He wasn't happy with my answer and continued to put me down.

He doesn't know me.

When you are arrogant and mean to others you sometimes get a smack down.

There are plenty of wise housekeeper with more common sense then doctors I worked with during my 22 years as a nurse.

Just because they do not have a degree DOESN'T mean they DON'T have Common sense.

God doesn't like ugly.
---Nicole_Lacey on 9/9/16


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Nicole_Lacey:

From reading Rob's post, it sounded like he was saying that the merely competent were assigned to garrison hospitals (which were safe), while the most excellent were assigned to the front lines (which were very dangerous). In other words, the best were put in great danger, while the mediocre were safe - in essence, rewarding mediocrity and punishing excellence. Any reward system like that encourages people to under-perform in order to survive. It leads to the dubious (but often true) proverb, "No good deed goes unpunished".
---StrongAxe on 9/9/16


//I was in the Army Medical Corps, those who were deemed to be okay were assigned to garrison hospitals//

Yes, where MOST Doctors and Nurses are working.

//assigned to MASH or the FRONT LINES!//

Yes as EMT!

Emergency medical technician (EMT)..EMTs are clinicians, trained to respond quickly to emergency situations regarding medical issues, traumatic injuries and accident scenes.

//P.S. Those who were deemed to be okay I'm thankful they weren't on the front lines with me.---Rob

Because they were NEEDED in the garrison hospitals.

After YOU DROPPED off the Solider to the garrison hospitals (as Ambulance personnel) do to the hospitals, the PROFESSIONALS took OVER.

Sorry, but you asked for it!
---Nicole_Lacey on 9/8/16


When I was in the Army Medical Corps, those who were deemed to be okay were assigned to garrison hospitals.

Those of us who excelled were assigned to MASH or the FRONT LINES! I didn't like or agree with this, but now as I look back, I understand why!

Also for your information, after returning to the U.S. I was accepted, went back to school, and graduated as an Orthopedic Specialist while still in the Army.
---Rob on 9/7/16


P.S. Those who were deemed to be okay, I'm thankful they weren't on the front lines with me.

I even remember telling my commander I would rather go alone than I have certain people with me. I also requested certain people who I knew were excellent.
---Rob on 9/7/16


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//a sliding scale between zero and ten,(zero being the best and ten being the worst)saying you are a Nurse, what do you consider your cognitive skill level to be?---Rob

Since you are NOT a Nurse I will excuse your ERROR.

The 1 to 10 number system is used for Pain Assessment.
(Pictures from Happy to very unhappy faces for kids and those who can't speak)

Cognitive assessment take much MORE and INTENSE evaluation

One example: Alzheimer's Association is a Algorithm for Assessment of Cognition.

Asks question about common known history, counting backwards and comparing picture objects to connective objects.

Like: clothes to washing machine'

Since I am working as a Government Nurse I am deemed OKAY.
---Nicole_Lacey on 9/7/16


Nicole Lacey, you keep asking the same questions over and over again which have been addressed by myself along with others.

I didn't want to do this, but based on a sliding scale between zero and ten, (zero being the best and ten being the worst), along with you saying you are a Nurse, what do you consider your cognitive skill level to be?
---Rob on 9/7/16


//It's not a good thing for a person to constantly boast about being a member of a church, then claim they don't know what their church does!//

I am very PROUD of Jesus' Church and I know what she does.

God's Power is WONDERFUL!

//follow paganism?..Satan's followers on this website?..Who is the anti-Christ and his followers on this website? Google Catholic Church anti-Christ photos! ---Rob on 9/7/16

So childish.

Don't be afraid!

Cite Names who you believe are pagans, followers of anti-Christ and of satan.

MAN UP!
---Nicole_Lacey on 9/7/16


It's not a good thing for a person to constantly boast about being a member of a church, then claim they don't know what their church does!

How do you know they follow paganism? Google Catholic Church paganism photos!

I didn't know there were Satan's followers on this website? Google Catholic Church Satanic Worship photos!

Who is the anti-Christ and his followers on this website? Google Catholic Church anti-Christ photos!
---Rob on 9/7/16


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Strongaxe, your entry about Benny Hinn and people falling to the floor reminded me of The Toronto Blessing which happened some years ago. People were having gold dust fall onto them 'from the ceiling' it seemed and other such 'miracles'. About the same time we had Todd Bentley kicking people in the face with his boots on and other wacky (evil) people saying all this was 'of God'.

Many people are not satisfied that Jesus died in our place - taking our punishment but must also have regular 'miracles' to prove to them that He hasn't gone on holiday. GREED entered Christianity (or maybe I should just say 'the church') some decades ago and some onlookers must be very happy to be atheists because of that. Lord have mercy on us.
---Rita_H on 9/7/16


michael_e:

Many years ago, I used to like Benny Hinn. I even once flew to Chicago just to see him. However, his crusades do have an air of snake oil to them. (E.g. waving his jacket at the audience, and almost everyone in the auditorium falling over in one big wave. I was one of the few people who was left standing.)

In recent years I've recently seen some interesting things. Google: "benny hinn" "false prophet", to see several instances where he had specifically predicted several things that would definitely occur within certain time frames, and those things did not, in fact, occur. The Bible is very clear that we are not to listen to false prophets.
---StrongAxe on 9/7/16


//I know you don't like sound Biblical doctrine, michael e

Wrong Cluny, it's your erroneous traditions, I don't care for. I rate T.D. Jakes and Benny Hinn with Jorge Mario Bergoglio
---michael_e on 9/6/16


//People will spend BIG MONEY buying their books, CD's, and DVD's, but they will not READ AND STUDY SCRIPTURE, or spend a dime to hear SOUND BIBLE DOCTRINE.---Rob 9/4/16//
You got that right ---michael_e 9/4/16

Have you all seen their bank or credit card statements?

Did you ASK them when was the last time they brought a Bible or read/study the Bible?

//Why is some people have the nerve to tell others to just follow Jesus, when they themselves follow paganism, Satanism, and the anti-Christ?---Rob

How do you know they follow paganism?

I didn't know there were satan's followers on this website?

Who is the anti-Christ and his followers on this website?

Please mediate on Matthew 7:1-5
---Nicole_Lacey on 9/5/16


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Well Rob they probably think you are wrong in your judgements of them. So why should they listen to you?
---Samuelbb7 on 9/5/16


Why is some people have the nerve to tell others to just follow Jesus, when they themselves follow paganism, Satanism, and the anti-Christ?
---Rob on 9/5/16


I know you don't like sound Biblical doctrine, michael e. I never cared for Charles Stanley ever since I heard him distinguish between the "Holy Spirit" and "the very Spirit of God."
---Cluny on 9/5/16


There are some preachers I respect and I love all in the name of Jesus.

But I don't listen to T.D.Jakes nor care too.
---Samuelbb7 on 9/4/16


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//People will spend BIG MONEY buying their books, CD's, and DVD's, but they will not READ AND STUDY SCRIPTURE, or spend a dime to hear SOUND BIBLE DOCTRINE.
---Rob on 9/4/16 //
You got that right
---michael_e on 9/4/16


Charles Stanley being one rare exception---Rita_H 9/4/16

I LOVE Dr. Charles Stanley and his son Andy.

I use to watch him faithfully every Sunday in the early 90's.

He was the FIRST Preacher (even before a Priest) I could listen to him preach for a whole hour. (seemed only 20 minutes)

He was the only man who helped me redeemed my faith in Preachers after Jimmy Swaggart's scandal. (I was only 14 years old at the time)

I have MUCH respect for the man!

//I'm thankful I was declared to be a SAINT by GOD the very moment I placed my faith in CHRIST for SALVATION.--Rob on 9/4/16

Be careful. Pride comes before the fall.

Heaven is big. No need to be Jealous of Saint Teresa.

Just follow Jesus
---Nicole_Lacey on 9/4/16


I'm thankful I was declared to be a SAINT by GOD the very moment I placed my faith in CHRIST for SALVATION.

I didn't have to go through a man made and PAGAN process.

I'm not surprised at all with the many who will spend a lot of money to hear those who have been proven to be FALSE TEACHERS.

People will spend BIG MONEY buying their books, CD's, and DVD's, but they will not READ AND STUDY SCRIPTURE, or spend a dime to hear SOUND BIBLE DOCTRINE.
---Rob on 9/4/16


I don't have T.V. these days but saw T.D. Jakes several times on 'The God Channel' when I did have T.V. at my last home. I was not at all impressed, in fact there were very few T.V. preachers I was impressed with - Charles Stanley being one rare exception.

They all appear to be money grabbers, live in mansions, drive flash cars and some own their own aeroplane, which I'm sure they'll say are needed for their ministry.

---Rita_H on 9/4/16


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//TV is a marketplace. Apparently some people think it would be profitable for Jakes to have a show.//--Leon on 9/3/16

Yes, profitable for people who DO NOT live in Dallas, Texas.

The TV is a GREAT way for everyone else in the world to see T.D. Jakes every Sunday (or whenever they show him).


I know I am very HAPPY that they air Pope Francis on TV esp. this Sunday when he is going to canonizes Blessed Mother Teresa.

I don't have the time nor the money to fly to Vatican City to see the canonization.

TV can be a curse or a blessing.

It's all in the way you see it.



---Nicole_Lacey on 9/3/16


\\apparently the Father desires his message to be spread, or it would not be happening.\\ So what? Cancer spreads, too. Does the Father desire cancer to spread? Is Jakes being GIVEN a talk show--and on what channel--or is he buying time?
---Cluny on 9/4/16


TV is a marketplace. Apparently some people think it would be profitable for Jakes to have a show. What do you think Rob?
---Leon on 9/3/16


josef:

You wrote: Good for him, His audience is continually growing, apparently the Father desires his message to be spread, or it would not be happening.

Popularity alone is no proof of legitimacy. More people vote for American Idol than in the presidential elections.
---StrongAxe on 9/3/16


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Since he is known all over the Nation, it seems logical to give him a National TV show.
---Nicole_Lacey on 9/2/16


"What are your thoughts about T.D. Jakes being given a talk show on national television?"

Good for him, His audience is continually growing, apparently the Father desires his message to be spread, or it would not be happening.
---josef on 9/2/16


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