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Pope Francis Prayers

The General Assembly Presbyterian Church USA opened with a prayer offered to Allah.

Pope Francis stated that christians and muslims worship the same God and in 2014 he authorized islamic prayers and readings from the quran at the vatican.

Your thoughts on combining christianity and islam.

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//Nicole: They were not chamber pots, "rites of purification" required clean water in a clean vessel.---Glenn on 9/28/16

No Sir. The vessels were not clean.

Those vessels were not for drinking water. They were symbols for cleaning purposes.

John 2:6-9

6 Nearby stood six stone water jars, the kind used by the Jews for CEREMONIAL WASHING, (not drinking) each holding from twenty to thirty gallons...9 and the master of the banquet tasted the water that had been turned into wine. He did not realize where it had come from, though the servants who had drawn the water knew.


Most likely he would have NOT drink the wine knowing it came from dirty pots
---Nicole_Lacey on 9/29/16


Chria9396: These verses will help you discern the difference *.
Nicole: They were not chamber pots, "rites of purification" required clean water in a clean vessel.
* Psalm 19:7-14, Luke 8:5-18, John 5:39, Acts 17:11, Hebrews 4:2, 11-12, 1Peter 2:2, 2Peter 1:19-21.
---Glenn on 9/28/16


Glenn,

I was off topic and apologize...I was not referring to the two faiths you mention, but thinking of various Christian faiths, or doctrines. Certain truths may be gleaned from denominations that do not agree on all things. Also individuals, called out.
---Chria9396 on 9/28/16


//..and if you pour a glass of excrement into a barrel of fine wine you also get excrement.---Glenn

Yes, but when Jesus instructs them to pour water into dirty jars they got the best wine ever known to man.

John 2:1-11
..Now there were six stone water jars there for the Jewish rites of purification, each holding twenty or thirty gallons. Jesus said to the servants, Fill the jars with water. And they filled them up to the brim. And he said to them, Now draw some out and take it to the master of the feast... the master of the feast called the bridegroom and said to him, Everyone serves the good wine first, and when people have drunk freely, then the poor wine. But you have kept the good wine until now.
---Nicole_Lacey on 9/28/16


Chria9396: There is a French saying - If you pour a glass of fine wine into a barrel of excrement, you get excrement, and if you pour a glass of excrement into a barrel of fine wine you also get excrement.
Matthew 7:13-27, John 10:7-9, Ephesians 5:6-13, Colossians 2:8, 2Peter 3:16.
---Glenn on 9/28/16




//"My confusion is what two faith [sic]?"
Christianity and Islam. You know, the subject of this blog.---Jerry6593 on 9/23/16

THANKS

Sometimes our answers are right in front of us if we only open our eyes :D
---Nicole_Lacey on 9/23/16


Nicole: "My confusion is what two faith [sic]?"

Christianity and Islam. You know, the subject of this blog.


---Jerry6593 on 9/23/16


While 2 faiths, or 2 denominations or doctrines may not be immiscible, anything true and anything false may be gleaned from either.
---Chria9396 on 9/23/16


//Look up the word "immiscible".---Jerry6593

I did and added it to my vocabulary.

My confusion is what two faith?

Faith is a vague term.

RCC/Protestants?

Paganism and RCC?

Paganism and Protestants?

---Nicole_Lacey on 9/19/16


Nicole. Thank you for reminding me.



Peter and Paul say the stone is Jesus.

1Peter 2:4-8 To whom coming, as unto a living stone, disallowed indeed of men, but chosen of God, and precious,... acceptable to God by Jesus Christ. Wherefore also it is contained in the scripture, Behold, I lay in Sion a chief corner stone, elect, precious: and he that believeth on him shall not be confounded. Unto you therefore which believe he is precious: but unto them which be disobedient, the stone which the builders disallowed, the same is made the head of the corner, And a stone of stumbling, and a rock of offence, even to them which stumble at the word, being disobedient:....

Which is correct the scripture of the RCC.
---Samuelbb7 on 9/19/16




Nicole:

//The two faiths are immiscible.---Glenn on 9/15/16

I am confused.//

You shouldn't be. Glenn is agreeing with you. Look up the word "immiscible".



---Jerry6593 on 9/19/16


//The two faiths are immiscible.---Glenn on 9/15/16

I am confused.

Who said worshipping idols is mixed with Christianity?

Jesus said himself you can't.

Matthew 6:24

No one can serve two masters: Either he will hate the one and love the other, or he will be devoted to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve both God and money.

Luke 16:13.

You can't be slaves to both God ... You cannot serve God and mammon.
---Nicole_Lacey on 9/18/16


//Nicole on this I disagree. Many of the words of the RCC do agree with the Bible. But some don't.//

If you cite which ones you believe doesn't agree with the Bible I can explain how She does follow the Bible every time.

//1Corithians 15:1-4//

There isn't anything the RCC disagrees with that verse.

//I may have asked this before. But you do believe that you are Born Again. John 3.---Samuelbb7 on 9/15/16

Yes in 1973 when I was almost 2 years.

Jesus in John 3 and all the Apostles copy Jesus in ACTS
states Baptism is needed for Salvation (Born Again)

Jesus nor the Apostle NEVER mentions 'the Sinner's Prayer' for Salvation.

All Biblical
---Nicole_Lacey on 9/17/16


I have never figured out why some of my posts don't make it.

The only friend I have in a high place. Is the same one you have.

GOD is for us. He loves us.

Agape

---Samuelbb7 on 9/16/16


You know Samuel, about a quarter of my responses to you are not posted.

And they were good ones (in my opinion)

You must have friends in high places :D
---Nicole_Lacey on 9/16/16


The two faiths are immiscible.
1Corinthians 10:14, 20, 2Corinthians 6:14-18, Ephesians 5:6-13, 2John 1:7-11.
---Glenn on 9/15/16


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Nicole on this I disagree. Many of the words of the RCC do agree with the Bible. But some don't.

1Corithians 15:1-4 Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand, By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain. For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures, And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:

I may have asked this before. But you do believe that you are Born Again. John 3.
---Samuelbb7 on 9/15/16


//Nicole is for you to trust the Bible above the words of men.//

Thank you, but why do you assume I am not?

BTW are you claiming NOT to listen to ANYONE's interpretation of the Bible?

Not a Pastor, your parents, or a scholar? NEVER?

Do you think as much as I love to argue on CN that I NEVER argued with the RCC and it's Priests?

They heard my mouth decades before I ever spotted CN.

//If you believe the RCC is correct then their words will not contradict the Bible. 2Tim 3:15-17--Samuelbb7

And it doesn't.

//Nicole along with other Catholics suffer from cognitive dissonance.--Rob on 9/13/16

GOOD to hear from you.

I was afraid you weren't going to speak to me or about me anymore.
---Nicole_Lacey on 9/14/16


"Catholic Answers" 3-25-2013: "Muslims worship the one living and merciful God, and call upon him in prayer.---Jerry6593

Thank you, but Catholic Answers wrote a lot of articles that day.

The statement has NOTHING to do with the comment you wrote:

//Pope's statements is that he considers the Judeo-Christian Jehovah to be identical to the Muslim Allah. I consider this blasphemy.---Jerry6593 9/13/16

1. You cited Catholic Answers not the Pope.

2. You wrote identical.
But, citation doesn't say that Jesus is God or that Muslims pray to Jesus.

3. Jews ALSO worship the one living and merciful God, and call upon him in prayer.

It doesn't mean Jews are identical to Muslims does it?
---Nicole_Lacey on 9/14/16


Samuel: "unimportant points that don't matter."

Sam, you aren't helping.

Do your homework. The god of Islam is Satan - not Jehovah. That distinction IS VERY important, and is most germane to this blog.

Nicole: Here you go:

"Catholic Answers" 3-25-2013:

"Muslims worship the one living and merciful God, and call upon him in prayer.



---Jerry6593 on 9/14/16


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Jerry you aren't helping. We need to speak in love and follow the Bible. Not bring up unimportant points that don't matter.


What I wish Nicole is for you to trust the Bible above the words of men. If you believe the RCC is correct then their words will not contradict the Bible.

2Timothy 3:15-17 And that from a child thou hast known the holy scriptures, which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus. All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.
---Samuelbb7 on 9/13/16


Nicole along with other Catholics suffer from cognitive dissonance.
---Rob on 9/13/16


Nicole_Lacey wrote: "And Gentlemen CITE your sources or you are just making stuff up."

Nicole, try being like the Bareans, do your own research whether those things were so.

As in your own words: Facts are not hard to find if you truly wish to INVESTIGATE the facts.
---Steveng on 9/13/16


//Steven: My reading of of the Pope's statements is that he considers the Judeo-Christian Jehovah to be identical to the Muslim Allah. I consider this blasphemy--Jerry6593 on 9/13/16//

And Gentlemen CITE your sources or you are just making stuff up.

It is easy.

When you are reading a so call statement from the Pope, COPY and PASTE it.

Also get the author or document's name attachment to the COPY and PASTE statement piece.
---Nicole_Lacey on 9/13/16


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//Wikipedia is NOT a reliable source..We, as investigative news reporters, do not use wikipedia as a reliable source of information.--Steveng

If you are truly an 'Investigative News Reporter' then investigate the date Pope Benedict VXI resigned and Pope Francis was elected.

It isn't hard.

I will give you an example:

If Rob wrote that there is a video with President Bush signing a bill on gun control from February 2009.

We don't have to even see if a bill on gun control exist because we KNOW President Bush left office on January 20th, 2009.

EVERYOHE KNOWS President Obama was President during February 2009.

Understand?

Facts are not hard to find if you truly wish to INVESTIGATE the facts.
---Nicole_Lacey on 9/13/16


Steven: My reading of of the Pope's statements is that he considers the Judeo-Christian Jehovah to be identical to the Muslim Allah. I consider this blasphemy.

Allah is Arabic for "the god". It was the highest of 360 ancient Arabic pagan gods worshiped at Mecca. It was the moon god, and is the reason why the crescent moon is the symbol of Islam. The month of Ramadan begins on the first sighting of a new crescent moon. Muslims bow toward the K'abah (a 40 ft. high black cube in Mecca which houses a meteorite) every day. This could never be compatible with Christianity.


---Jerry6593 on 9/13/16


Nicole_Lacey wrote: "I don't care about your opinion of me."

It's not an opinion. It's a stated fact straight from the bible. (and I know what your response will be that you are not mentioned in the bible)

Nicole_Lacey wrote: "Just address Rob lying on CN about the Pope Benedict XVI"

Rob is not lying, but you surely are a denier.

Nicole_Lacey wrote: "I cited Wikipedia because I know you all wouldn't believe me if I only stated that Rob lied on the Pope."

Wikipedia is NOT a reliable source as mentioned many times in various tech and research magazines. We, as investigative news reporters, do not use wikipedia as a reliable source of information.
---Steveng on 9/12/16


//Nicole_Lacey, you are surely a stiff-necked person---Steveng on 9/11/16

I don't care about your opinion of me.

Just address Rob lying on CN about the Pope Benedict XVI

I cited Wikipedia because I know you all wouldn't believe me if I only stated that Rob lied on the Pope.

I SHOWED you all HOW Rob lied on the Pope.


So please address Rob's untruthfulness on CN.

Then you can return to how stiff-necked I am.

We can debate on FACTS, not Fantasy
---Nicole_Lacey on 9/12/16


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Nicole_Lacey, you are surely a stiff-necked person much like all other denominational christians who are adamant about what denominational church they belong to. All denominational "churches" have their own rituals, traditions, ways of living and interpretations of the bible. Every denomination uses their own written materials to teach the words of God THEIR way e.g. the Book of Mormon and the RCC's Catechism. Sure, they use bible "verses" to prove their point, but Satan also uses verses.

Satan has had over two thousand years to infiltrate and divide christiandom up into over sixty thousand denominations - RCC and Orthodox being the worst because they are the cornerstone of all denominational "churches."
---Steveng on 9/11/16


Why are some on CN so vicious with lies about the Pope?

Has anyone seen any Catholic or Orthodox tear down the Rev Billy Graham with lies?

No, because we RESPECT him, and those who feel he is your brother leader in faith.

Many on here need to apologizes with all the lies said about Pope Francis and Pope Benedict XVI Emeritus

Instead of spending your time attacking another Christian Church, go and evangelizes to a non Christian person.
---Nicole_Lacey on 9/11/16


//There are videos from March 2013, with pope Benedict stating Christianity is fake, and a video of pope Benedict in a mosque converting from Catholicism to Islam.---Rob on 9/10/16//

When you want to make up stuff you should do your homework first.

Why did you pick the month of March for your made up story?

Pope Benedict XVI wasn't acting Pope in March, he resigned in order for another Pope to be elected.

***Following the resignation of Pope Benedict XVI on FEBRUARY 28, 2013, a papal conclave elected Bergoglio as his successor on MARCH 13th, 2013.--Wikipedia

BTW, you can't say it was Pope Francis in March either because that month made him busy with the ceremonial of his installation into Office.
---Nicole_Lacey on 9/10/16


There are videos from March 2013, with pope Benedict stating Christianity is fake, and a video of pope Benedict in a mosque converting from Catholicism to Islam.

Also, pope Francis is shown kissing the Koran and saying the Bible and the Koran are the same.
---Rob on 9/10/16


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1. Islam doesn't believe Jesus is the Son of God.

2. Islam doesn't believe Jesus died on the cross

3. Islam believes the Trinity means God, Jesus and Mary not the Holy Spirit.

4. Islam believes at the end of the world Jesus will return to tell us Christians to follow Muhammad because he is greater than Jesus.

5. Islam believes in one God, but believes we are His servants not adopted children.

To claim to be God's adopted child is blasphemy deserving death.
---Nicole_Lacey on 9/10/16


'Your thoughts on combining Christianity and islam.'

They cannot be combined because God sent His ONLY Son into the world and He is the one from whom we now have our CHRISTian faith. HE, not Allah or Muhammad, died in our place (taking our punishment for sin upon Himself). Nothing at all, connected with islam, did anything for us. Islam is a lie from the pit of HELL.
---Rita_H on 9/10/16


//Pope Francis stated that christians and muslims worship the same God and in 2014 he authorized islamic prayers and readings from the quran at the vatican.Your thoughts on combining christianity and islam--Steveng on 9/6/16

NONSENSE!

Thank God the Vatican KEEPS a detail complete records of ALL the Popes' Speeches.

CITE what you wrote!

You can go to Vatican.VA as their official website.

Select English since they have the website in multiple languages.

Trust me you won't find what you wrote because you MADE IT UP!

STOP IT!
---Nicole_Lacey on 9/9/16


Leaders have gone nuts trying to please Islam but God doesn't like it nor does He accept it. Allah and Our Christian God are not the same. He will have to answer for this mistake.
---Darlene_1 on 9/8/16


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