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Why do people believe it is OKAY to be violent against others and their property just because they feel justice is against them?

Note I said feel, not actual injustice had happen to them.

Yes, I am speaking about the RIOT not protest that has taken place in NC.

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//hosting an appreciation dinner for our local police department (about 30 officers plus other city officials) this coming Friday.//

May God bless you all!

//Wouldn't it be nice if churches all over the country would do the same? These people put their lives on the line every day to keep us safe.---Jerry6593 on 10/18/16

YES INDEED!

Did you hear about the Lady Officer who let the man almost beat her to death because she was too afraid to shoot an unarmed Black Man?

Thank God she lived.

I pray the next time she stops worrying about the media and worry about her family missing her if she dies.

There is a reason why Police Officers wear a gun.

It isn't a decoration piece!
---Nicole_Lacey on 10/18/16


Nicole: I appreciate your firm stand on the side of law and order. You may be interested to know that our small church in the Orlando, FL area is hosting an appreciation dinner for our local police department (about 30 officers plus other city officials) this coming Friday. Wouldn't it be nice if churches all over the country would do the same? These people put their lives on the line every day to keep us safe. What a shame that many (including our Federal Administration) promote violence against them.


---Jerry6593 on 10/18/16


//Nicole, I've made my point...
I'm done with this.---joseph on 10/14/16

GOOD

Saying your point is okay unless you FALSIFY what someone else wrote!

It isn't nice.
---Nicole_Lacey on 10/15/16


Nicole, I've made my point. Unless you, or anyone else have sincere, reasonable question concerning what i've written. I'm done with this.
---joseph on 10/14/16


//if you honestly believe these people deserved death then for you, so be it.---joseph

When did I say they deserve death? NEVER!

I said COPS don't DESERVE to die just because they are doing their JOB!

You are acting as if the Police went around shooting Black people for sport.

Walk in their shoes! Be a Cop if you think you can do better.

You take the EXTRA seconds to WAIT to see if the person has a gun.

We will put flowers on your police car and grave site instead.

You stop Speeders on the highway praying they don't shoot you for PULLING them over because they BROKE the Law.

That Speed Limit sign ISN'T a suggestion.

Police officers are made in God's Image as well.
---Nicole_Lacey on 10/14/16




Nicole it should have been obvious to me earlier in this exchange that you have made up your mind, my apologies for extending it. You have certainly affirmed the statement, A man, or woman, convinced against their will, is of the same opinion still. I am not one to argue another's truth, and if you honestly believe these people deserved death then for you, so be it. It is my personal understanding that "whoever sheds mans blood, by man his blood shall be shed. For in the image of God He made man". As far as I know the referenced men, and women, shed no mans blood, and in by no means deserve their blood to be shed. I take comfort, Nicole, in the reality of that passage, and to that, I say so be it.
---joseph on 10/14/16


//Joseph, why don't you stop complaining and be Cop---Nicole_Lacey on 10/10/16

I repeat, "How did they deserve to have their lives taken?"---joseph on 10/10/16

Didn't your Momma teach you 'If you play with fire you might get burn'?

What do you think that means?

When someone breaks the Law who you think HAS to respond to Lawbreakers?

COPS

You do know they carry guns for a reason.

Everyone knows they have guns.

So WHY would you rebel against a Cop wearing a gun who came to stop you from breaking the Law?

Joseph please answer your question. Why do cops deserve to have their lives taken?"
---Nicole_Lacey on 10/13/16


//Please communicate with Nicole if she is yours.//

He is my Husband. He knows me. Thanks for the prayer anyway.

DON'T STOP PRAYING.

//She does not do enough research, and is challenged to understand truth, and often blindly misrepresents the veracity of an issue, though she speaks often on many subjects purporting to know what she clearly does not know.---aservant

FACTS hard on your eyes?

Matthew 7:4-5 How can you say to your brother, Let me take the speck out of your eye, while there is still a beam in your own eye? You hypocrite! First take the beam out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brothers eye.
---Nicole_Lacey on 10/11/16


Precious Father,
Please communicate with Nicole if she is yours. She does not
do enough research, and is challenged to understand truth, and often blindly misrepresents the veracity of an issue, though she speaks often on many subjects purporting to know what she clearly does not know.

If she is not yours, would you please convert her from being Satan`s servant so she will eventually understand Truth, so that her much speaking will be of some profit to You.

Thank You, Father, in Jesus` name.
---aservant on 10/10/16


Hands up don't shoot is a LIE!

Black people said he NEVER said those words

He WASN'T running away.

They are not magical bullets passing him to turn around to hit him in the chest

//cops should give 12 and 13 year olds more time to validate the gun is not a toy//

Better yet they should walk closer for a better look.

How about: 'NEVER POINTING A TOY GUN at the Police?

Didn't you Momma teach you NEVER to point a knife at someone when you are passing to them?

//insted of shooting a 12 year old right then, in the back of the head, within 15 seconds of exiting their car.---aservant

Kid shouldn't have pointed the TOY gun at people and cars for over an hour causing a citizen to call 911.
---Nicole_Lacey on 10/10/16




Why do Cops have to give a person the advantage of shooting first before they can shoot?

We are not talking about citizens in these cases being given some type of 'shoot first' advantage.

These people who are being killed are UNARMED, hands up, running away, helpless on the ground, already cuffed, and mostly Black.

I think cops should give 12 and 13 year olds more time to validate the gun is not a toy before they shoot. They can back off a distance and try to resolve it, insted of shooting a 12 year old right then, in the back of the head, within 15 seconds of exiting their car.
---aservant on 10/10/16


Joseph, why don't you stop complaining and be Cop to protect my right to curse at you, call you a pig, spit at you and get up in your face to screaming at you?
---Nicole_Lacey on 10/10/16


I repeat, "How did they deserve to have their lives taken?"
---joseph on 10/10/16


//Police killed more than 100 unarmed black people in 2015"---joseph

Underneath the article they have pictures of victims with the reasoning why they were shot to dead

Why disgrace their memories?

I only read the 1st two rolls.

Some had warrants on them and had been caught.

Some were FIGHTING with the police when they got shot.

Who fights with the police and expects to win?

Some of them had objects in their hands believed to be guns.

Why do Cops have to give a person the advantage of shooting first before they can shoot?

Joseph, why don't you stop complaining and be Cop to protect my right to curse at you, call you a pig, spit at you and get up in your face to screaming at you?
---Nicole_Lacey on 10/10/16


And one reaction to not prosecuting these "executioner cops", is that cops are now starting to be executed without trial.

See Dallas, Lancaster CA, Palm Springs, CA

Better start insisting these cops who execute the unarmed are tried and found innocent, and try to stop innocent cops from being executed.
---aservant on 10/10/16


And no one cares!

The veterans who fought in the deserts and jungles, very far away from home CARE. Especially those who are forever disabled: blinded, amputees, PTSD sufferers, and those who commit suicide because they can't stop dreaming and thinking about all the horrors they saw and did, in service to our nation.

These have "purchased" with their blood and suffering the citizen's right to lawful speech and expression, even when unpopular and disagreed with.

Kap is protesting cops being granted the "right" to execute, without trial, unarmed men. Yet the cops face no prosecution. Can't be a different standard for cops.
---aservant on 10/10/16


Jerry Google "
"Police killed more than 100 unarmed black people in 2015"

How is it that they "deserved what they got"? How did they deserve to have their lives taken?
---joseph on 10/9/16


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Jerry, corrections for previous post.
"[Whose] lives did they take? [Whose] lives did they threaten?"
---joseph on 10/9/16


joseph: "What is your definition of law and order, and how is it involved in the shooting deaths of innocent men who by all accounts posed no threat to anyone, least of all to those paid to enforce law and order?"

Who are these "innocent men" who were shot? Name them. The criminals shot in Sanford, Ferguson, etc. were NOT innocent. They deserved what they got. The innocent victims are the cops who are assassinated by thugs while posing no threat to their murderers. Also complicit is the lawless POTUS B.O. and his riot-inciting staff. They have innocent blood on their hands.


---Jerry6593 on 10/9/16


//When I say I believe in protest I do not mean to not stand for the flag. Kap. the quarter back for the 49ers is wrong in what his doing.//

I agree. He has a captive audience.

People pay to watch him play football NOT for his social complaints.

He can gather the media around him after the ball game.

//He lives in the best country in the world.//

Which he has plenty of money to move to any other Country and fly into United States for his ball games.

I would respect some.

//None of them I ever heard were oppressed by this government.---Luke

Amen The true oppressed people in America and all over the world are the Jewish People.

And no one cares!
---Nicole_Lacey on 10/4/16


Nicole, I believe it is ok to protest. But not rioting starting fires, breaking windows, stealing things from stores. Those young people are just violent. They are just waiting for an excuse to cause trouble.
When I say I believe in protest I do not mean to not stand for the flag. Kap. the quarter back for the 49ers is wrong in what his doing. He lives in the best country in the world. Many have died to give him a place to live, to make the money he makes. To sleep in a great bed, eat the best of foods.
His protest should be done in another way. How does he figure the black people are oppressed? Was the president oppressed? His wife? and the many singers who make millions. None of them I ever heard were oppressed by this government.
---Luke on 10/4/16


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Joesph, the Dallas and Charlotte Police Chiefs extended employment to ANYONE help secure Law and Order.

Lets review incidence.

1st one robbed a store and man-handled the owner walking away with stolen goods.

That wasn't the reason he was stopped by Officer Wilson.

He was Jay walking: (cross or walk in the street or road unlawfully or without regard for approaching traffic.)

He was told to get off the street, but he refused. Thus the fight occurred.
The Man's finger prints were found on Wilson's Gun!

Let's count the innocent offenses

1. Robbery
2. Jay walking
3. Failure to comply with Officer's order
4. Assaulting an Officer
5. Trying remove Officer's gun to commit attempted murder.
---Nicole_Lacey on 10/3/16


"Yes and thank God for Law and Order!"----Nicole
What is your definition of law and order, and how is it involved in the shooting deaths of innocent men who by all accounts posed no threat to anyone, least of all to those paid to enforce law and order? Personally I don't recall any violence or protest related to the death of those proven to be violent. Do you?
---joseph on 10/2/16


//Because the carnally minded could rationalize, even sympathize with a victims vindictive mindset, and why a rape victim could be prone to irrational retaliation.---joseph

Yes and thank God for Law and Order!

That woman would go to Prison for killing innocent men.

She might not if she only killed the man who raped her stating she was insane.

People just want an excuse to be mean to another person.

Ever heard of 'Honor Killing'

This is an excuse to kill a woman family member just because she dishonored the family (In their opinion).

No excuse should be permitted.

All those Rioters should be jail.

Their right is only to Peaceful protesting NOT to cause harms to another person.
---Nicole_Lacey on 10/2/16


"But would those same men rioting in the streets have the same understanding if a woman was raped by a Black man and she decided to kill as many Black men she could find."
If you are asking if they would be rioting, No, i don't think that they would. Because the carnally minded could rationalize, even sympathize with a victims vindictive mindset, and why a rape victim could be prone to irrational retaliation.
---joseph on 10/1/16


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Joseph, I agree. I am upset because it is so evil.

But would those same men rioting in the streets have the same understanding if a woman was raped by a
Black man and she decided to kill as many Black men she could find.

In her mind it makes no difference if those men were innocent. They are guilty because they were Black just as the one who raped her.

First these men were mad because they claim the Cops were killing Black youth because they were racist.

But when non white cops shot black youth they quickly changed their rhetoric to any cop in general because they are ALL racist.

Just as if the woman starting killing all men because she was raped.

Not all men are rapists as not all cops are racist
---Nicole_Lacey on 10/1/16


Nicole you have misunderstood my intent. It is not to provide an excuse for rioting, but rather an attempt to explain the carnal mindset behind it. You are of course correct, rioting just makes things worst. But without faith, not repaying evil for evil, and respecting what is honorable in the sight of all men is a foreign concept. It simply makes more sense to the carnally minded to respond in kind. That of course is not the way, yet for those bound by a sense of hopeless frustration, it's understandable given the injustice and prejudicial attitude that has been, and continues to be represented in this sensually based system.
---joseph on 10/1/16


Joseph, just stop giving the Rioters excuses.

They are making things worst.

You demand justice while you are denying justice to other people.

You can't demand peace when you disrupt other people's peace.

You can't demand understanding when you refuse to understand it is wrong to destroy innocent people's property

You can't demand people stop killing certain races when at the same time advocating killing Cops and White people.

---Nicole_Lacey on 9/30/16


"Only if you keep your view in the thought process and not into the action mode."

The thought process is what I'm addressing here, as per the question.
---joseph on 9/29/16


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//You are entitled to your view, I am entitled to mine//

Only if you keep your view in the thought process and not into the action mode.

You don't have the right to harm anyone just because you are mad!

//besides, you have quoted me out of context, fortunately the complete statement is there for anyone whose interested.---joseph on 9/29/16

Let me make it easy for them:

//we will continue to rebel BY ANY MEANS WE DEEM NECESSARY TO GET OUR POINT ACROSS, because without faith, perceptions, as cloudy or distorted as they may be, are all we have in this sensually based system.---joseph on 9/29/16
---Nicole_Lacey on 9/29/16


"LAW AND ORDER will Prevail!"

It hasn't to date, and that's the problem.

"Speak for yourself. This Black Hispanic Woman disagrees and WILL not act in that matter!"

Good for you, but irrelevant as concerning the question asked.

"It's an EXCUSE to steal, break property, cause havoc and kill INNOCENT people."

You are entitled to your view, I am entitled to mine, and besides, you have quoted me out of context, fortunately the complete statement is there for anyone whose interested.
---joseph on 9/29/16


//we will continue to rebel by any means we deem necessary to get our point across, because without faith, perceptions, as cloudy or distorted as they may be, are all we have in this sensually based system.---joseph

LAW AND ORDER will Prevail!

Speak for yourself. This Black Hispanic Woman disagrees and WILL not act in that matter!

It's an EXCUSE to steal, break property, cause havoc and kill INNOCENT people.

What did CVS, Walmart or any other business do to you to have their property stolen, damaged or burned down?

If I live next to you and the KKK came and hung your son, HOW does give you the RIGHT to steal my property and burn down my house?

You don't have the right to harm someone because you are MAD!
---Nicole_Lacey on 9/29/16


When we are profiled, harassed, wrongly accused, beaten, even murdered by those given the authority of law enforcement in this world for no other reason than the color of our skin, and the unjust presumption and prejudices associated with skin color, with little or no legal recourse, we rebel in our frustration, in the only way we perceive to be available to us, and unless we can embrace, and take comfort in the realization that the Father is not mocked, and a man will reap what he sows, whether in this life or the next, we will continue to rebel by any means we deem necessary to get our point across, because without faith, perceptions, as cloudy or distorted as they may be, are all we have in this sensually based system.
---joseph on 9/29/16


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//Such people have ever been motivated by the spirit of Satan. This has just become fashionable under the governance (or lack thereof) of the riot organizer-in-chief.---Jerry6593 on 9/23/16

HOW TRUE!

And those who support and refuse to stop such evil acts are motivated by the spirit of demons followers of satan
---Nicole_Lacey on 9/23/16


Nicole: Such people have ever been motivated by the spirit of Satan. This has just become fashionable under the governance (or lack thereof) of the riot organizer-in-chief.


---Jerry6593 on 9/23/16


//There are people who find it entertaining to make trouble.//

Entertaining? That's the problem.

No, these are people who love to steal, cause physical harm to cops and the news media because they are plain evil!

If that's their entertainment they should be banned from public.

//If they feel they can get away with it, this can be part of it, then.---Bill

Just like the men who were trying to throw a Anchor man into a bomb fire?

Thank God the Police Officers where able to see them through the chaos to save the man from being thrown into the fire.

It's EVIL. Please stop trying to excuse them.

How would like it if a group of men tried to throw you into fire just because you were born WHITE?
---Nicole_Lacey on 9/22/16


Those who believe in justice might not be doing the riot stuff. Each person is different, though. So, I don't think you can make one general statement about every one.

There are people who do not want police or anyone getting involved in controlling them. So, they can try to make it not worthwhile for police or others to interfere with them.

There are people who find it entertaining to make trouble.

But you might have seen the boy who got a smacking from his mother, who came out and got him when he had a mask on, at another situation. She knew who he was. He likely didn't think he would get caught. If they feel they can get away with it, this can be part of it, then.
---Bill on 9/22/16


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