Have A Salvation Party
We Catholics celebrate our entry to Salvation (Baptism) by giving gifts and throwing a celebration.
If Protestants believe in the 'Sinner's Prayer' for Salvation, why don't you all show it?
If you take the time for birthdays and graduation celebrations why NOT have a Salvation Party?
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---Nicole_Lacey on 10/15/16
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Proof is in the pudding! BUT YES! There are definitely lies.
---mike4879 on 2/16/17|
Many want others to carry their cross.
---mike4879 on 2/13/17
Mike, you sound angry my friend. Angry at others, angry at yourself, and angry at God.
I can understand your anger at God. Where was God when your property was stolen? Why did God not protect your children? Why did God not protect you from your rebellious wife? Why does God not help you with this debt?
You feel abandoned by God.
But that is a lie, a lie I used to also believe.
But my heart knew there was a lie and I had to find the truth.
I unlearned the Pharisaical religious upbringing I was taught and have learned the truth about God.
I can now fully trust God. So can you.
---Mark_Eaton on 2/14/17|
yoke is light. Which means He is actually on the other side of the cross helping you cross your heavy cross.
---Nicole_Lacey on 2/13/17
I like that Nicole.
---kathr4453 on 2/13/17|
Some people want others to carry their cross. Paul spoke of some being hard-pressed while others are relieved. A group called THE BAND sang "and put the load on me." There are selfish, self-centered, self-seeking individuals who rook others desiring others carry their cross and be burdened and hard-pressed while they live well. They are like Gregory THE GREAT and Alexander THE GREAT! The only thing great about Alexander THE GREAT is that he was a great taker. The only good thing about great takers is they don't live forever. Thieves put their want ahead of those they rob. Others are glad to swindle. Many want others to carry their cross.
---mike4879 on 2/13/17|
//A cross has been the only thing I have got in Christ Jesus and it seem, not only am I to pick up my own cross, I am to carry others as well--mike4879on 2/12/17
We all have to pick up our cross.
Some crosses are bigger than others as your cross.
Some drag their crosses.
Some refuse to pick up their crosses making our crosses bigger.
Remember Jesus said My yoke is light. Which means He is actually on the other side of the cross helping you cross your heavy cross.
---Nicole_Lacey on 2/13/17|
YES, there are a lot of New Creatures with the Old Adam.
---mike4879 on 2/12/17|
Mike, I hear ya. Awwww, but here is what you will eventually come to learn, that is...and look in scripture....did not at some point someone step in and carry Jesus cross? When you finally come to,that place that YOU can't do it anymore, THEN you can say with Paul. WHO WILL DELIVER ME FROM THE BODY OF THIS DEATH....I THANK God through Jesus Christ my Lord. Don't be so focused on dying that you fail to see that through that comes the power of His resurrection. Just say with Paul, that I may know Him and the fellowship,of His suffering AND THE POWER OF HIS RESURRECTION.
Once you taste that power and taste the reality that you are a New Creature In the Risen Christ....you will press on to want more and more.
---kathr4453 on 2/12/17|
A cross has been the only thing I have got in Christ Jesus and it seem, not only am I to pick up my own cross, I am to carry others as well
---mike4879 on 2/12/17|
Mike, I'm beginning to see a sad and disappointed side of you. You don't feel as close to God...because you are angry, or you feel betrayed, or maybe you bought into the FAKE NEWS, Instead of the Good News. To me it sounds like you are on your way to something awesome....that is, having the chains that bind us to this world and worldly system, (money. Property etc, ) replaced with the riches that are in Christ Jesus.....a far more lasting treasure NO ONE CAN take away. First step, even if you don't feel it, Just say THANK YOU LORD...YOU KNOW what you are doing in my life.
Mike...I've been where you are, believe me...not your exact circumstances...but held on for dear life....and I am so glad I did.
---kathr4453 on 2/11/17|
I would have been closer to God if I had stayed away from my wife. The children and I paid a great price to be together. We lost hundreds of millions of dollars and I lost all my intellectual property. Not being on the same page is expensive. I left all my properties to go be with my rebellious wife who cared nothing of her husband or his properties and stole the children from me. Now we live in debt just to be by her sister in one of the coldest areas on earth. I only celebrate my children's births. I have nothing else to rejoice about than my daughters..
---mike4879 on 2/11/17|
Mike, and your children celebrate your birthday.
You seem to live because of your children.
Your words remind me of Jesus. I don't think He celebrate His Birth date.
He said He was born for the sole purpose of dying so that we can have life.
But the rest of us celebrate His Birthday with Festive Delights for centuries.
Sadly, some are not born to enjoy their own lives.
But are here for God's delight and others.
No man can love his children as you do without their children loving him even more.
A father's love demonstrated to his children shows our Heavenly Father's Love better than a mother's love.
Thank you for loving your children.
It's helps society to function better.
---Nicole_Lacey on 2/11/17|
Yes, Pharoah and King Herod felt their day should be celebrated, and OFF came the bakers head, and OFF went the head of John the Baptist. I will rather be in sack cloth and ashes on my birthday and as Rachel in Ramah weeping. But for my children's births, I will celebrate.
---mike4879 on 2/10/17|
//I wish I had not been born.//
I am sorry to hear that. Please know that God wanted you to live for His own personal enjoyment as you celebrate everyday your children's existence.
//I do not have cause to celebrate.//
It seems you are in low point of your life. Please reach out to someone you can trust.
//But of baptism, MANY are born AGAIN AND AGAIN.//
Because you can only be born again once. You only can be baptized once.
//some treat confirmation as a graduation from church.//
True but wrong. Confirmation gives one complete gifts of the Holy Spirit for evangelizing.
//I am not into birthdays or special days.--Mike
Maybe if you did you would have a better appreciation of yourself.
---Nicole_Lacey on 1/27/17|
Nicole_Lacey, I generally don't celebrate at a funeral service. The birth of my children, I celebrate every day. It is the only thing I celebrate. I do not celebrate the days of my life. I wish I had not been born. I do not have cause to celebrate. But I thank God every day for my children. For me, the celebration will be in heaven. But of baptism, MANY are born AGAIN AND AGAIN. Shall we celebrate each time that they are born again? For all the times that it wasn't real, shall we celebrate? Now some treat confirmation as a graduation from church. Not everyone has special days. When God honors my prayers, that will be a special day. But I will celebrate a day of rest and I will celebrate my children. I am not into birthdays or special days.
---mike4879 on 1/26/17|
\\The celebration party will be in heaven.--mike4879 on 1/2/17
Mike be honest.
You never had a birthday party, celebrated Jesus' Resurrection, or Christmas celebration?
You never celebrated a education graduation, or a promotion?
You never celebrated a birth of a child?
You never celebrated an anniversary even with a dinner?
Never been to a wedding?
Never been to a funeral?
Never celebrated the 4th of July or Memorial day with a cook out?
Never celebrate a New Year's Eve?
---Nicole_Lacey on 1/2/17|
The celebration party will be in heaven.
---mike4879 on 1/2/17|
Barb, He who has begun a good work in you will continue until the day of Jesus Christ.
You know Barb, when I was first saved and was told I could lose my salvation, the Lord taught me in a most precious way HIS TRUTH AND HIS COVENANT PROMISES. He showed me that YES, Saul had the Holy Spirit taken from him, but God made a New Covenant with David saying I WILL NEVER take the Holy Spirit from you. THEN he showed me the NEW Covenant that was EVER BETTER THAN THAT.. So my faith is and comes straight from the Lord Himself. He will NEVER LEAVE ME OR FORSAKE ME..and you know what Barb, I BELIEVE GOD.
---kathr4453 on 11/29/16|
Kathr, Jesus said "let he who is without sin cast the first stone".
What I was trying to say and probably did not say clearly is that the Holy Spirit does not abide with a person who is not willing to accept the truth revealed to them. Should a person want to remain in the darkness it is their right and choice to do so but the Spirit of Truth will not remain in them. "For whosoever has to him shall be given, and he shall have more abundance but whosoever has not, from him shall be taken away even that which he has." Matt 13:10-17.
---barb on 11/29/16|
Barb, John begins, the Law came through Moses, but GRACE and Truth came by Jesus Christ. Now if one had to be sinless to carry out the law of stoning someone who broke the law, then no one EVER would have been stoned. WHY? because the Bible has told us that ALL have sinned and fallen short of the Glory of God. I see nowhere in the OT that a sinless person had to carry out the law of stoning.
The Holy Spirit is sent into the world to convict of sin. To say the Holy Spirit can't exist where sin exists means our whole world is without the Holy Spirit.
---kathr4453 on 11/27/16|
Kathr, the woman caught in adultery and her accusers were both transgressors of the law as Jesus pointed out. Is it lawful for a sinner to stone a sinner? Jesus told the woman to "go and sin no more" and if she disobeyed His command then she will lose out on eternal life in the end. Where is her partner in crime? Doesn't the law say they should both be put to death?
Jesus gave His disciples the Holy Spirit after His resurrection. John 20:19-23. The Holy Spirit is our guide and teacher. He takes the spiritual truth of Jesus' words/testimony and reveals it to all who will hear. John 18:37, 16:13-16. The Holy Spirit does not live where sin exists.
---barb on 11/27/16|
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is the place in which it is written. Once written in stone, it is now written in the hearts and minds of all who agree to keep it. Jer 31:33.
If all you preach is the death and resurrection of Jesus then you render His testimony obsolete. John 6:63, John 12:42-50, John 14:23-31.
---barb on 11/19/16
Barb, it's because of the death and resurrection of Jesus Christ that the Holy Spirit is now in our hearts. 2 Corinthians 3 will explain. And Jesus Himself said, He would send the Spirit AFTER He ascended to the Father. And on Pentecost day He did. The New Covenant IS a New Dispensation...meaning our accountability today is different than in the OT. We are actually MORE accountable than ever.
---kathr4453 on 11/26/16|
Barb, people hear the word dispensation and go off the deep. Maybe some have distorted it, as I agree hyper dispensationalists have totally abused that doctrine. To simplify ...I will try. Adam and Eve ...lets start there. Now some say Moses 10 Commandments were in effect then, BUT if that were so Cain would have been put to death for killing his brother. He was sent out to the land of NOD. NOW if the Land of NOD was the place of punishment for murder, it would be in the law of Moses, OR it would still be a law TODAY. These were different dispensations of ACCOUNTABILITY, and consequences for actions. The OT Law had the power to put to death certain sins. Adultry for one. Why did Jesus CHANGE the Law, and save the women taken in Adultry?
---kathr4453 on 11/26/16|
Kathr, another dying or dead blog.
//This was also a common practice of Nuns with children PHYSICALLY ABUSING THEM.//
Or a COMMON LIE?
Name a Nun arrested for child abuse. You should be able to name SEVERAL names since it is as you said "COMMON PRACTICE".
The movie is about the Irish Government taking children themselves.
Remember the Government PAID the father NOT the Nuns or the CC.
//It is so good today charges can be brought against them at least in Our country for CHILD ABUSE.---kathr4453
Of Course! If any child abuse occurs.
As a Nun I had more Protestants, Jewish, Muslims, Hindus and Atheists than Catholic Patients.
I guess the Majority of Society LOVES the Nuns
---Nicole_Lacey on 11/25/16|
Moderators, when are you all breaking for Thanksgiving and returning?
---Nicole_Lacey on 11/21/16|
//Since we are not under the OT LAW, sacrificing animals day after day, as that was in a previous dispensation--thr4453
You are confused about OT LAW.
Jews ONLY sacrificed animal 2 times a day was to Egypt out of them, but that wasn't the main part of the Law.
Because those animals were worshipped by Egyptians at that time which influence the Jews.
You can't kill a god unless it isn't a god.
The PASSOVER which was Ordered by God to do yearly because Jesus would come as the Passover Lamb Not TO be Passed.
Jesus came to fulfill, NOT abolish the Law.
Only the Holy Mass fulfills the Law and not abolish it as Jesus set up in the Last Supper with HIS instructions to ALWAYS do in HIS MEMORIES.
---Nicole_Lacey on 11/19/16|
Kathr, all I have to do is read the law and the prophets in the old testament and the words of Jesus in the new testament to see that they are in complete harmony. No dispensation there. Isaiah 8:20.
The only change to the covenant is the place in which it is written. Once written in stone, it is now written in the hearts and minds of all who agree to keep it. Jer 31:33.
If all you preach is the death and resurrection of Jesus then you render His testimony obsolete. John 6:63, John 12:42-50, John 14:23-31.
---barb on 11/19/16|
Barb, everyone who knows the OT has been FULFILLED in the NT is a dispensationalists whether they understand that or not. Since we are not under the OT LAW, sacrificing animals day after day, as that was in a previous dispensation, and since we are under the New AND Everlasting Covenant, we are in a different dispensation. In this dispensation we preach Christ Crucified and Risen..that IS the Gospel in THIS dispensation.
---kathr4453 on 11/18/16|
Samuel, context and studying all verses on a topic is very important. You might see something you have not yet seen if you read what Jesus said to His disciples in Matt 28:18-20, John 14:26 and John 15:26-27.
Also read John 20:19-23 and 1st John 2:20-29. I pray that you will see that these verses apply to the same topic that is being discussed.
---barb on 11/13/16|
Paul didn't preach another Gospel. Those who misread him think so.
Context and studying all verses on a topic is important.
Today a Theory called Dispensationalism affects how people understand the Bible. It teaches another gospel Not Paul.
---Samuelbb7 on 11/13/16|
Steveng, people like me do understand what Paul wrote because we have studied it and compared it to the standard for truth which is the law and the prophets and the testimony of Jesus.
And people like me strive to live in the world without being a part of it. World events do not scare or confuse us because we know that Jesus has overcome the world and by following His example we can do the same. Rev 3:21. We look forward to the new heaven and the new earth where Jesus will reign and live with us forever. Rev 21.
---barb on 11/10/16|
barb wrote: "Paul is the one who taught another gospel. Why does Paul think that an angel from Heaven/God would preach a different gospel from ..?"
People, like yourself, do not understand what is written by Paul because you, and others, understand what is written as a worldly adult who thinks because they are educated in the world, they understand what is written in a worldly manner instead of using spiritual knowledge from the Holy Spirit. Try reading the bible through the eyes of a child - skipping over verse numbers. Find yourself an AKJV of the bible without verse numbers or find a website that reads you the bible. You'll have a very different point of view - a spiritual point of view.
---Steveng on 11/8/16|
Steveng, No. I'm not the judge.
You can see for yourself what God says by reading the law and the prophets and the Testimony of His Son.
Yes, Jesus and His eyewitness disciples taught the gospel of the kingdom. The gospel of the kingdom is the testimony of Jesus. The Truth. Matt 24:14. Paul is the one who taught another gospel. Why does Paul think that an angel from Heaven/God would preach a different gospel from the one he is preaching if the gospel he is preaching is the truth?
---barb on 11/8/16|
Amen Nicole. Good points.
Those who love GOD will follow Him. Those who love their neighbor will put their words into action. Matthew 25 lists those who say and do the sheep. Those who say and don't the goats.
---Samuelbb7 on 11/8/16|
barb wrote: "Steveng, are you saying that those from the 2nd resurrection who have just surrounded and tried to take over the camp of the saints will be judged from the book of life. I don't think so."
So, you think YOU are the judge?
barb wrote: "I believe..."
You believe? What about what God says.
barb wrote: "We are not told what those "other books" are but I would guess they are from another gospel, maybe??"
It sounds like you are not sure. There is only one gospel that Jesus and the apostles taught and that is the coming of the Kingdom of God. There are no other gospels. They also taught man about how to get there.
---Steveng on 11/7/16|
//To enter into God's kingdom we must do the works thereof, keep His commandments and abide in and practice the testimony/words of His Son and teach it to others. Rev 12:17.---barb on 11/5/16
Barb, you explained Rev 12:17 very well.
St. James agrees with you.
But sadly, if they reject his writings in the Bible they would make excuses not to listen to you.
James 2:18-20 But someone will say, You have faith, and I have works.
Show me your faith without your works, and I will show you my faith by MY WORKS.
You believe that there is one God. You do well. Even the demons believeand tremble!
But do you want to know, O FOOLISH MAN, that faith WITHOUT works is DEAD?
---Nicole_Lacey on 11/6/16|
Nicole has it right. Those in the first resurrection are called blessed and holy but those in the 2nd resurrection are simply called the rest of the dead. Heaven and earth flees from them and no place is found for them...they are spiritually dead. We can see this is the correct context when we read Rev 20:15 "And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire", that is the 2nd death. God is the God of the living not of the dead.
To enter into God's kingdom we must do the works thereof, keep His commandments and abide in and practice the testimony/words of His Son and teach it to others. Rev 12:17.
---barb on 11/5/16|
Steveng, are you saying that those from the 2nd resurrection who have just surrounded and tried to take over the camp of the saints will be judged from the book of life. I don't think so. I believe the book of life is opened along with the other books so that the spiritually dead can see that their names are not written in it. We are not told what those "other books" are but I would guess they are from another gospel, maybe??
---barb on 11/5/16|
Nicole_Lacey wrote: "All based on our behavior (WORKS)"
Rev 20: 1-4, 6 is before the thousand year reign of Christ where the dead in Christ shall rise first and the living shall be caught up with the dead.
Verse 5 shows what will happen at the end of the thousand years. "But the REST OF THE DEAD lived not again until the thousand years were finished."
Verses 7-14 is what happens at the end of the thousand years. The rest of the dead did not include the christians who were already resurrected at the beginning of the thousand years.
---Steveng on 11/5/16|
The earth and the heavens fled from his presence, and there was no place for them. And I saw the DEAD, great and small, standing before the throne, and books were opened. Another book was opened, which is the book of life. The DEAD were judged ACCORDING TO WHAT THEY HAD DONE as recorded in the books.
The sea gave up the DEAD that were in it, and death and Hades gave up the dead that were in them, and each person was judged according to what they had done. Then death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire. The lake of fire is the second death.
ANYONE whose name was not found written in the book of life was thrown into the lake of fire.
All based on our behavior (WORKS)
---Nicole_Lacey on 11/5/16|
Nicole_Lacey//dead were judged out of those things written in the books according to their works." Rev 20:11-15.---barb
Thanks for that Passage.
Proof that 'works' are needed to obtain Heaven."
That passage is taken out of context. There will be two resurrections: the first at the beginning of the thousand year reign of Christ for the christians and, the second, at the end of the thousand year reign of Christ when all the other dead shall rise and be judged from the book of life according to what they did on earth. There are those who don't believe in Christ, but did good.
Blessed are those that rise in the first resurrection.
---Steveng on 11/4/16|
//Isn't it a bit presumptuous to throw a salvation party for yourself..?//
Do you celebrate birthdays?
We know a born baby will die.
And as an adult made NOT make it to heaven.
It doesn't stop birthday celebration.
We have graduation parties for Law and Medical Student even though they haven't PASS the Bar or Medical Board exams to perform in that field.
Salvation starts Now, Here and On earth. Not in Heaven.
Heaven is the result of being Saved on earth and keeping that Salvation until death.
//dead were judged out of those things written in the books according to their works." Rev 20:11-15.---barb
Thanks for that Passage.
Proof that 'works' are needed to obtain Heaven.
---Nicole_Lacey on 11/4/16|
Isn't it a bit presumptuous to throw a salvation party for yourself or anyone else before the Book of Life has been unsealed and opened? Have you been given a sneak peak and seen your name and the names of others written there?
"He who overcomes, the same shall be clothed in white raiment, and I will not blot out his name from the Book of Life, but I will confess his name before my Father and before His angels." Rev 3:5.
"And I saw the dead, small and great stand before God and the books were opened and another book was opened which is the Book of Life and the dead were judged out of those things written in the books according to their works." Rev 20:11-15.
---barb on 11/3/16|
//the liar here is any church or pope or priest who makes up dos and dont's to hold over anyone's head and threatening someone soul with bogus rules is beyond evil. It's called emotional and SPIRITUAL ABUSE.---kathr4453
The Pope, Bishops, Priests, Pastor CAN tell a woman she CAN NOT have an abortion in order to SAVE the baby's life.
Are you saying because abortion isn't in the Bible a woman CAN kill her baby?
BTW it is Protestants who made a list of sins NOT listed in the Bible NOT Catholics:
Gambling, Alcohol, Dancing, Instruments in Church, not allowing women to cut their hair or wear pants/jewelry.
Sorry, but you have the RCC confused with your Protestant's Friends.
---Nicole_Lacey on 11/2/16|
//Telling what you don't know is against the Catholic's eighth commandment: bear false witness//
Nope because your OWN POSTS demonstrates you lack of knowledge.
//I surely know more than you when you spread lies / untruths.//
Like what? Please do tell?
I will give CCC numbers to BACK my answers
//I was an alter boy for four years during the last 1950s as part of one of the largest catholic churches in chicago.//
Note: altar boy. A child
//As an investigative reporter...my knowledge of RCC.--Steveng
Yet, you and Rob are skimpy on your educational background.
For your information, I was a Religious Nun for 6 years.
Dominican Nun at that.
---Nicole_Lacey on 11/1/16|
When Protestants are saved we have a Baptism and celebrate another soul has accepted JESUS CHRIST as their LORD and Savior.
We celebrate with praise and song.
Praise the LORD.
---Samuelbb7 on 11/1/16|
Nicole_Lacey wrote: "Both of you all KNOW VERY LITTLE of the RCC"
You assume way too much. Telling what you don't know is against the Catholic's eighth commandment, "Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour."
I surely know more than you when you spread lies / untruths. I was an alter boy for four years during the last 1950s as part of one of the largest catholic churches in chicago. As an investigative reporter I researched the RCC twice: the first time for eight months in the early 1980s and the second for two years in the 1990s.
I'm not boasting, just giving you some idea about my knowledge of RCC.
---Steveng on 10/31/16|
Nicole, whatever kind of sin you call it, seems to have escaped the knowledge of the priest who told this to someone. I'm just passing on something I have been told. Funny, but I have heard this before. It is funny that God has never said this was a sin of any sort, AND that making up dos and don't not in scripture is what we see in CULT activity. Certainly legalism beyond scripture. The fact is Nicole, the liar here is any church or pope or priest who makes up dos and dont's to hold over anyone's head and threatening someone soul with bogus rules is beyond evil. It's called emotional and SPIRITUAL ABUSE.
---kathr4453 on 10/31/16|
Nicole, you say:
"If Protestants believe in the 'Sinner's Prayer' for Salvation, why don't you all show it?"
NIcole, first of all, it's God who saves sinners. When God changes a persons heart, the sinner will gives thanks to God for having mercy on him. He will now see how bad he was and will ask for forgiveness. Is he happy? Of course he is.
I remember the day God saved me, it was April 9th 1990. That night He opened my eyes. And in return I asked Him to come into my life. He already had. What I did was only my response to His work in my heart. Are some Catholics saved? I believe there's many. In time those who were saved will leave the RCC because they will see how wrong they were in their believes.
---Luke on 10/31/16|
//It's obvious you don't know too much about catholics in other parts of the world.//
It's obvious you will say anything WITHOUT knowing all the facts.
You don't know me?
I LIVED with Catholics from Vietnam, India, Italy, Ireland, England, Spain, Poland, Russia many Countries from Africa, Central and South America.
We are all the same.
ONE, HOLY, CATHOLIC AND APOSTOLIC CHURCH
//I grew up in an italian neighborhood in chicago where all the people were devout roman catholics and eating meat on friday was a sin punishable in hell.---Steveng
Not so DEVOUT if they don't know eating meal on Friday is a Venial Sin not a Mortal Sin.
As usual you all are making things up to debate a falsehood.
---Nicole_Lacey on 10/31/16|
Kathr and Steveng, Only unconfessed MORTAL sins sends one to hell.
Eating Fish on Fridays is a Venial Sin NOT a Mortal sins.
Both of you all KNOW VERY LITTLE of the RCC
Go to CCC online if you want clarification.
Eating MEAT is still NOT allowed for the WHOLE CHURCH on Ash Wednesday and Fridays during Lent (6 weeks before Easter)'
The only change made by the RCC in Vatican II (All BISHOPS WITH the Pope) allowing us to substitute not eating meat on Fridays with another personal sacrifice.
Ex: I won't look at my e-mail all day, but I eat a hamburger on Friday.
The Sacrifices changes as one pleases.
If we DON'T PICK a sacrifice then the STANDARD sacrifice on Fridays goes into affect. NO MEAT.
---Nicole_Lacey on 10/31/16|
First of all Nicole, I don't know exactly what ENTRY INTO SALVATION even means. The term is not used in scripture. Is entry into salvation something different than salvation? ENTRY INTO???. Do you mean one who has entered into a covenant relationship with the Lord? And you also believe one can lose their salvation? Or do you believe in OSAS?
Also yes, many believe and were told their loved ones are in hell for eating meat on Friday. I have a dear friend who is still very bitter over that, still believing her parents are in hell, yet has remained RCC.....she is bitter because the Friday meat law is no longer in effect, and bitter the Pope can just change his mind when ever he feels like it.
---kathr4453 on 10/30/16|
Nicole_Lacey wrote: "Never has and NEVER believed by Catholics" (that eating meat on Friday was a sin)
It's obvious you don't know too much about catholics in other parts of the world. I grew up in an italian neighborhood in chicago where all the people were devout roman catholics and eating meat on friday was a sin punishable in hell.
Even your catholic church is divided by rituals, traditions, ways of living and interpretations of the bible. I traveled throughout North America and met people from all denominations and cultures. It's surprising how different denominations are even within the same denomination.
---Steveng on 10/30/16|
Kathr since you are NOT GOD and your belief system isn't what counts
//what you are celebrating?//
//No scripture teaches that baptizing babies gives them entry into salvation.//
MARK 16:16 Babies are part of human beings//
//We don't Nicole....we just don't.//
That's why I am asking. Salvation is BIG thing for us Catholics, why not you all?
//sending people to hell for eating meat on Friday?//Never has and NEVER believed by Catholics
//I have friends who believe their Mother or Father are in hell for eating meat on Friday. Not much to celebrate there.---kathr4453
You made that up.
NO CATHOLIC believes that or did.
ONLY Protestants believed it.
---Nicole_Lacey on 10/28/16|
Nicole, Why should someone have a salvation party with gifts when one ( baptized babies) has nothing to do with entry into salvation in the first place. I'm just trying to figure out what you are celebrating? No scripture teaches that baptizing babies gives them entry into salvation. So you partying over it is only man made tradition. And your question is....why don't Protestants follow in your man made traditions? We don't Nicole....we just don't.
How many parties were there that ended up sending people to hell for eating meat on Friday? Oh maybe not today, but in the past YES. I have friends who believe their Mother or Father are in hell for eating meat on Friday. Not much to celebrate there.
---kathr4453 on 10/27/16|
//Nicole, in scripture the subject matter is about salvation, not birthdays. birthday and anniversary parties come under human traditions.---kathr4453 on 10/26/16
Again my question is if you take the time to celebrate a birthday, anniversary and graduation parties, WHY wouldn't take the TIME to celebrate your Salvation?
People celebrates what they believe are important to them but not so much with the things of God.
Bill told me of his parties
---Nicole_Lacey on 10/26/16|
Nicole, in scripture the subject matter is about salvation, not birthdays. birthday and anniversary parties come under human traditions. Salvation is not a human tradition. I know the difference, do you?
Also Nicole, why criticize Protestants here? Your question above is asked with malice. Regardless of HOW one believes they are saved has nothing to do with comparing their experience with RCC TRADITION of having a party.
---kathr4453 on 10/26/16|
//in other words you have parties for when someone's baby is Baptized( entry into salvation)?//
Salvation as in MARK 16:16
//Are these private parties?//
If you know the family I guess they wouldn't mind you to join them.
It's like a marriage.
You usually need an invitation. Otherwise they made accuse you of crashing the wedding.
//AND can you show ANY scripture where a party was thrown after someone was saved?---kathr4453 on10/26/16
If you can show one for birthdays and graduation celebration.
Since they are NOT in the Bible are you SAYING you NEVER celebrated a birthday or went to a anniversary/graduation party before?
Please answer since I answered several of your questions
---Nicole_Lacey on 10/26/16|
Nicole, in other words you have parties for when someone's baby is Baptized( entry into salvation)? Or you have a party for someone who has joined the RCC? Are these private parties? AND can you show ANY scripture where a party was thrown after someone was saved? So your question is.....WHY don't Protestants follow the same MAN MADE TRADITIONS we RCC do?
What exactly is the purpose of this question? The answer to this is, " the Angels in heaven rejoice and are most likely partying every time a soul is saved by the Grace of God.
---kathr4453 on 10/26/16|
Nicole: "Why don't you stick to the NT and BELIEVE and TRUST in Jesus' Words."
Why don't you? Jesus believed in the OT, and even said that it was about Him. He is the God of the OT and He never changes, as:
Heb 13:8 Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and to day, and for ever.
---Jerry6593 on 10/26/16|
Nicole_Lacey posted: "//Denominational "churches" is recognized by the government---Steveng
Give to Caesar what is Caesars, and to God what is Gods."
So, does that mean the catholic "church" belongs to the government?
---Steveng on 10/25/16|
//Ecc 9:5 For the living know that they shall die: but the dead know not any thing, neither have they any more a reward, for the memory of them is forgotten.---Jerry6593
Why don't you stick to the NT and BELIEVE and TRUST in Jesus' Words.
Stop arguing with God like the Sadducees
But concerning the resurrection of the dead, have you not read what God said to you: I am the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob? He is NOT the God of the dead, but of the LIVING.
Shall I believe you or Jesus?
//Denominational "churches" is recognized by the government---Steveng
Give to Caesar what is Caesars, and to God what is Gods.
---Nicole_Lacey on 10/25/16|
Nicole: "Yes, but that's the Virgin Mary, the Saints and the Angels in Heaven having a party."
Ecc 9:5 For the living know that they shall die: but the dead know not any thing, neither have they any more a reward, for the memory of them is forgotten.
---Jerry6593 on 10/25/16|
Nicole, first, the word "church" ARE the christions, not a denomination or a building as most christians use the term.
Denominational "churches" is recognized by the government as a sect, a certain religious group based upon the group's doctrine - each having their own rituals, traditions, ways of living and interpretations of the bible. Their income is not taxable. All their assets are tax-free.
Every denomination will jump through hoops to keep its non-profit status - even to go against God's word.
I investigated RCC for two years and quit in 1989. At that time I calculated the assets at seventeen trillion dollars having a yearly income of eighty five billion dollars. That's how far I got.
---Steveng on 10/24/16|
//Denominational "christians" will celebrate the killing of the last two prophets sent by God by giving gifts and throwing a celebration because the two prophets do not adhere to their denominations doctrines.---Steveng on 10/23/16
As always you are too VAGUE.
Unless you are more specific, I will have to assume are you speaking about a store front Church no one heard of with a membership of 15 people.
14 of the 15 are the Pastor, his wife, his 4 Adult kids with their spouses, and 3 grandchildren.
The 15th person came in for a hot meal and a warm space to sit.
---Nicole_Lacey on 10/23/16|
Denominational "christians" will celebrate the killing of the last two prophets sent by God by giving gifts and throwing a celebration because the two prophets do not adhere to their denominations doctrines.
But remember, all things are doable, but not all things are profitable.
---Steveng on 10/23/16|
Bill, I understand now.
Thanks for explaining.
---Nicole_Lacey on 10/21/16|
Nicole, by a "convert" I mean someone who has repented and now desires to follow Jesus. The repentance comes before the water baptism. So, we are celebrating the repentance and the baptism. The party begins before the baptisms, and we have the baptisms, and then more enjoying sharing with one another.
And if we are in God's love celebrating, isn't God's love Heaven's love? Romans 5:5 So, spiritually wouldn't we be in Heaven celebrating, by being in Heaven's Holy Spirit of Heaven's love?
Ephesians 1:3 and Ephesians 2:5-7
---Bill on 10/21/16|
These Scripture seem to support the notion of celebrating exceeding joy with rejoicing.
---aservant on 10/21/16|
//:o) We do have parties, often by having a group baptism of new converts.//
So you have a party AFTER baptizing them?
Wording means a lot.
"Baptism of new converts"
Don't you mean People who are baptized?
You statement seems to suggest they are converted first then you baptize them
//And Jesus says there is a great celebration, in Heaven, when a sinner repents. So, Heaven has a party, I guess you could say, Nicole (c: ---Bill on 10/20/16
Yes, but that's the Virgin Mary, the Saints and the Angels in Heaven having a party.
---Nicole_Lacey on 10/21/16|
:o) We do have parties, often by having a group baptism of new converts.
And Jesus says there is a great celebration, in Heaven, when a sinner repents. So, Heaven has a party, I guess you could say, Nicole (c:
---Bill on 10/20/16|
//Salvation is not an event, it is a process.//
I TOTALLY AGREE.
But as our life on earth goes through aging process, we still celebrate our birthday
//But why do you think we receive our crowns after our life and not during?---Mark_Eaton
As when running a race. St Paul used this example.
One can be ahead of everyone for the 1st 3/4 length of the race.
It doesn't mean they will win. Someone passes them before the finish line.
It's the finish line that counts because we can reject Jesus at anytime during our life.
BTW, the RCC celebrates the death date of a Saint not their birthdates.
Only birthdays we celebrate is Jesus Christ, Virgin Mary (Sept 8th) John the Baptist (June 24th)
---Nicole_Lacey on 10/18/16|
I must stress this thought again.
Salvation is not an event, it is a process.
Salvation is a marathon, not a sprint.
Look at the Scriptures. Jesus tell us that those who overcome (at the end) will be saved. Those who constantly abide in Him, will be saved. Those who continually call upon the name of the Lord will be saved.
We should be grateful for the day when we see the way, the truth, and the life for the truth that He really is.
But why do you think we receive our crowns after our life and not during?
---Mark_Eaton on 10/18/16|
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