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Noah Told To Build Ark

When God told Noah to build the Ark, do you believe God commanded him to do it, a command given in the same sense as God gave the Ten Commandments? Or was God merely telling Noah his future plans, plans which included instruction for building an Ark, if built, could save Noah and family?

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"Choose life that you and your children may live" kind of command. (Deuteronomy 30:19)
---mike4879 on 1/2/17


Faith leads us to love others. Love works for others.---Samuelbb7

My brother
Can you imagine what the Chuch could have been, if only, they had followed the way taught by Christ in the Gospel? That thought, has been a fantasy of mine for many years now.

So simple, yet so difficult to find the truth, when their truth is founded on a man made doctrine.
---David on 11/22/16


Amen David

Faith leads us to love others. Love works for others. In Matthew 25 both groups claimed to be Christians. But the true followers performed works of love.

Agape
---Samuelbb7 on 11/21/16


Faith without works is dead faith.---Steven

Steven
I agree, but are these deeds required for those who hope to be saved? Allow me to lead you through my train of thought.

If faith without deeds Is dead, and we are saved by Grace, through faith, this faith which helps save us could not be dead faith. Therfore this must be a faith with deeds, else it could not save us.
Agree?

God warned Noah of his plans to flood the Earth, and he was given instructions for plans to build an Ark, if he hoped to save him and his family. In much the same way, the Gospel of Christ is a warning and a plan to build a relationship with God so he will save us.
---David on 11/17/16


That does make sense for those who believe "Not by works, but by Grace", means our obedience to God doesn't play a role in our salvation. Though that should have been obvious to me, I honestly didn't know that. Thank you Steven.
---David on 11/15/16


Steven
I put a "did" when I meant to put a "didn't" in my reply to you. The above is how it should have read. I use an iPad when I write, and sometimes it changes words or removes them without my notice.
---David on 11/16/16




True religion is to help the poor and needy, help the fatherless, and help the widows. Faith without works is dead faith.
---Steveng on 11/16/16


No. God was not merely discussing His plans with Noah, but as described in Gen 6, he specifically commanded Noah to build the ark and gave him detailed specifications on how to do it. God also revealed the reason for the ark and the coming flood.---Jerry6593

Jerry
So you don't believe it was to warn Noah, so Noah could build the Ark and save his family?
---David on 11/15/16


There is only one gospel. The good news, or gospel, is the coming of the Kingdom of God. That's it, nothing more. ---Steveng

Steven
You believe the Gospel is Jesus telling the story of the coming of the Kingdom of God, not the Lords instruction on how to be a part of it?

That does make sense for those who believe "Not by works, but by Grace", means our obedience to God doesn't play a role in our salvation. Though that should have been obvious to me, I honestly did know that. Thank you Steven.
---David on 11/15/16


David: No. God was not merely discussing His plans with Noah, but as described in Gen 6, he specifically commanded Noah to build the ark and gave him detailed specifications on how to do it. God also revealed the reason for the ark and the coming flood.

A little Bible reading is worth more than a ream of speculation.


---Jerry6593 on 11/15/16


It does say, I would say, that God told Noah to build it, and how to make it. But it was not a general command, like the Ten Commandments. ---Bill

Bill
It's obvious Noah had a very special relationship with God, for God only saved Noahs family. He was saved by Grace, but why do you believe he under the Grace of God? Why didn't God save others?
---David on 11/14/16




David wrote: "The gospel of Jesus Christ are those teachings..."

There is only one gospel. The good news, or gospel, is the coming of the Kingdom of God. That's it, nothing more. Jesus and the apostles also taught man on how to get there which is the ultimate commandment, love - as in the verb form. God want's to populated his kingdom with people who truly have love in their hearts.


Bill,
the house upon which christianity is build is not made by man's hands. It is not worldly. This is just one of many analogies, similes and parables that today's over educated chritians think is literal.
---Steveng on 11/14/16


Steven
Another way to look at the Gospel of Christ is as Paul coined it, "The Law of Christ". He used this term because It was given to him to give to us, much like The Law of Moses was given to the Tribes of Israel.
(John 1:17)
---David on 11/14/16


Hi, David (c: It does say, I would say, that God told Noah to build it, and how to make it. But it was not a general command, like the Ten Commandments. And Noah had found grace with God > God gave him those orders because Noah had God's favor! (c:

About if Jesus wants us to build a house > He does talk about how we need to build on a sure foundation > Matthew 7:24-27.

And Hebrews 3:6 says we with Jesus are His "house". And our Apostle Paul says we need to build on the right "foundation" > 1 Corinthians 3:9-11.
---Bill on 11/14/16


So, David, do you know what the gospel is?---Steveng

The gospel of Jesus Christ are those teachings he gave us, which tell us what we must do to have a loving relationship with God the Father.

For this relationship is the very foundation of our salvation.

I'm sure you believe I am wrong, so I would like you to give me your definition.
---David on 11/14/16


So, David, do you know what the gospel is?



Cluny, at it again? Can't defend your point so you use semantics" Even though you knew what the person was saying if you intended to correct the person.
---Steveng on 11/13/16


Yes, David, you DID say we are required to build a house.---Cluny

I did say "required" Cluny, but you said I used the word "commanded", not "required". They do not have the same meaning. I believe you did this to alter the context of my statement.
My question is why?

My statement, in context, "If you want to be saved, you must first build a relationship with God." And if you want BCV for that, it's the Gospel of Jesus Christ.

Steven
Thank you for the correction, but I use the word "Gospels" on occasion because of how the books are titled in the Bible. The Gospel of Matthew, the Gospel of Mark...etc. When I use the word Gospel, some folks wonder, Which One?
---David on 11/13/16


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Yes, David, you DID say we are required to build a house. Here are your exact words.

\\No Cluny, I do not believe we are required to build an Ark, but I do believe we are required to build a house. \\

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 11/12/16


David wrote: "The gospels of Jesus Christ"

David, do you even know what is the gospel (singular)?


Cluny wrote: "Give BCV."

CV is detrimental to the christian growth. When giving verse numbers the christian most likely will interpret that verse without considering context. Be like the Bereans to see if David is right. You will build your knowledge as you're searching.
---Steveng on 11/11/16


David, please tell me where in the Gospels we are commanded to build a house, be it your metaphorical one or otherwise.---Cluny

I didn't say we are commanded to build a house, be it a metaphorical one or otherwise. I said we are required to build a relationship with God, if we hope to be saved.

The words "Required" and "Commanded" do not hold the same meaning, but your point is interesting. Your point illustrates the difference between "Law" and "Grace" in the New Testament.

For example,
By our laws we are required to get a license to fish. Since it's a written law, it's a command. But we are only required to keep this command if we desire to fish.
---David on 11/12/16


David, please tell me where in the Gospels we are commanded to build a house, be it your metaphorical one or otherwise.

Give BCV.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 11/11/16


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No Cluny, I do not believe we are required to build an Ark, but I do believe we are required to build a house. This metaphorical house, we must build to be saved, is a relationship with God. Just as Noah needed to build the Ark to be saved.

In (Matthew 7:24-27) Jesus spoke of building this house.
How do we know this house is a relationship with God?

In (Matthew 25), the wise virgins were saved.
Who are the wise?
(Matthew 7:24-27), it's those who do what Jesus tells them to do.
Why are they wise?
(John 14:21), because God the Father will love us, and this Love is called Grace. And by Grace we shall be saved.

My source? The gospels of Jesus Christ
---David on 11/9/16


You don't actually think that people today are under a divinely imposed obligation to build arks, do you?

Can you point out any ancient Christian or Jewish writer who said that?

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 11/8/16


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