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Kath, reform theology did not start in America, Calvinism either. They are two separate theologies. You do not even know that.
I would suggest to read and study Calvinism or the Reform doctrines before you say it is wrong. You read those websites that think like you do and talk bad about the theologies without knowing.
Election is all over the Bible, Predestination is also in Scripture. Not the predestination you try to interpret.
---Luke on 12/22/16


"The almighty power, unsearchable wisdom, and infinite goodness of God, so far manifest themselves in his providence, that his determinate counsel extendeth itself even to the first fall, and all other sinful actions both of angels and men, and that not by a bare permission, which also he most wisely and powerfully boundeth, and otherwise ordereth and governeth, in a manifold dispensation to his most holy ends, yet so, as the sinfulness of their acts proceedeth only from the creatures, and not from God, who, being most holy and righteous, neither is nor can be the author or approver of sin."


LBC of 1689 ch 5 par 4
---john9346 on 12/21/16


"God hath decreed in himself, from all eternity, by the most wise and holy counsel of his own will, freely and unchangeably, all things, whatsoever comes to pass, yet so as thereby is God neither the author of sin nor hath fellowship with any therein, nor is violence offered to the will of the creature, nor yet is the liberty or contingency of second causes taken away, but rather established, in which appears his wisdom in disposing all things, and power and faithfulness in accomplishing his decree."

LBC of 1689 ch 3 par 1.
---john9346 on 12/21/16


John, look, not only here, but on your other thread, you seem to be driven with post after post like a small dog yapping at your heals ....soooo annoying. I have posted so many scriptures, and have asked you many questions you have not answered. I have also shown you what I BELIEVE. There is not one thing you can say or do to change my beliefs. You don't answer what I or others say or ask or show you, but come back in an attack mode that I again find annoying. So, with that I want to wish you a Merry Christmas.

I haven't even read your posts here except to see my name at the beginning of each one. You'll need to find someone else to take the bate. I won't be used so you can continue to teach this false doctrine.
---kathr4453 on 12/21/16


Kathr,

You have been unable to answer my questions regarding Jn 6:37-44 and Jn 10:11-29.

You are also unable to answer regarding Gen 3.
See posting, "5-points of Calvinism." where I asked you.
---john9346 on 12/21/16





Kathr:

"Who cares MarkV Luke. Many false teachings came into being when Paul was alive, and after even up to today."

Ma'am, You should because many are reading what you write and when they do their research and discover you are engaging in "Falsehood." you will lose credibility...

Like I have been stating to you "YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND CALVINISM ." like you think you do.

This was clearly seen on the posting, "Understanding Calvinism."

Ma'am, with the utmost respec, learn and know what others believe before trying to attack it.
---john9346 on 12/21/16


Kathr said, "You see Markv, I've never understood why YOU and now John force a doctrine down people's throat that doesn't save anyone to begin with. DOCTRINE does not save..JESUS SAVED, BY HIS DEATH AND RESURRECTION LIFE."

"16 Take heed unto thyself, and unto the doctrine, continue in them: for in doing this thou shalt both save thyself, and them that hear thee."

1 Tim 4:16
---john9346 on 12/21/16


Kathr states, "I tried to show John, salvation and the very foundation of salvation begins in the OT.

No Ma'am, you never answered my questions regarding Gen 3 and I asked twice to do so...

"Nothing about the Elect ONLY, which at that time was ISRAEL."

Ma'am, have you not read Gen 12, 15, and 17 Israel was the Elect Nation??

"The very foundation of the NT Gospel begins in ACTS where we see NO SUCH DOCTRINE AS CALVINISM. Even before Paul preaches, Peter does not preach Calvinism."

Have you not read Acts 2:23, 4:27-28, and 13:48??
---john9346 on 12/21/16


5-Points Of Calvinism

Are the 5-points of "Calvinism." AKA (TULIP) Scripture part 2??

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---john9346 on 12/13/16


So who is going to tell John that it wasn't Calvin who developed the TULIP we see today?

Why doesn't John just say REFORMED THEOLOGY? And much of the language of REFORMED THEOLOGY we see today began in America.
---kathr4453 on 12/20/16


Thank you luke. I had forgotten that. When you read Calvin his words don't reflect all of TULIP. Those who followed him went above and beyond what the said.

Merry Christmas to all.
---Samuelbb7 on 12/20/16




Who cares MarkV Luke. Many false teachings came into being when Paul was alive, and after even up to today.

So why do you push it off on folks who KNOW there is no such covenant as Covenant Theology, or Covenant Calvinism?
---kathr4453 on 12/20/16


Kath, you say:
"If you don't know what Calvinism is MarkvLuke, what are you doing on 5 points of Calvinism as if you do?"

Kath, Calvin did not write the five points of Calvinism. He was dead when the tulip came to be. You have to know what you are talking about Kath. You don't as I have demonstrated many times. The Tulip came to be when the Arminians came out with their "five point Remonstrance" The answer to them was the "Five point of Calvinism". He did not write the five points of Calvinism, the Church from Holland did in answer to the "Remonstrance."
---Luke on 12/20/16


MarkV aka LUKE, to play the coy fool is beneath all of us here who see you not only advocating Calvinism under amarkV, but also Calvinism under your new name Luke. And to say..."oh I don't know what Calvinism is..I think I will look it up"......you really must think we are all really stupid here. The moment I answered John back, walla YOU came out of hiding to attack me in full MarkV mode.

If you don't know what Calvinism is MarkvLuke, what are you doing on 5 points of Calvinism as if you do? Should we all tell you on that thread to but out since YOU don't know the first thing about Calvinism? Maybe I will, and repost your LIE from here.

You can change your name all you want...you are still you, and we know YOU.
---kathr4453 on 12/19/16


Kath, the Holy Spirit never taught you that believers go to the Judgment Seat of Christ. As far as you were concern you thought you were heading to the Great White Throne of Judgment and there you would testify against other believers. But The Holy Spirit didn't tell you what judgment you were going to.
Second, I am not trying to force any teaching to you other then what is in the Scriptures. I did not say Calvin was going crazy without you. I do not even know many of his teachings. But the more you speak against him, the more I want to know what he taught. I have the reform doctrine, if it is the same then Calvin is correct.
---Luke on 12/19/16


James 3:1(NIV)
3 Not many of you should become teachers, my fellow believers, because you know that we who teach will be judged more strictly.

MarkV, again the judgement seat of Christ will be most uncomfortable for many. You think you can say anything and get away with it....ABSOLUTELY NOT.

Other versions say "be not many masters" ...but looking up masters the original Greek G1320 is TEACHERS. And we also know that there are no MASTERS lording it over other believers.

Now there are also FALSE TEACHERS. They will be at the great white throne judgement.
---kathr4453 on 12/19/16


Acts 17, Paul goes to Berea. These men and women readily received the WORD also searching the scriptures daily to see if what Paul was saying was true. OK MarkV and John,were they searching OT scriptures ( the ONLY scriptures) to see if Calvinism was true?

I tried to show John, salvation and the very foundation of salvation begins in the OT. Begins with the foundation of Abraham, where God told Abraham in thee will ALL FAMILIES OF THE EARTH BE BLESSED. Nothing about the Elect ONLY, which at that time was ISRAEL.

The very foundation of the NT Gospel begins in ACTS where we see NO SUCH DOCTRINE AS CALVINISM. Even before Paul preaches, Peter does not preach Calvinism.

The Holy Spirit was given to those who OBEYED.
---kathr4453 on 12/18/16


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Markv, you chose to force Calvinism down people's throats, and not share the Gospel, and think that is Gold, silver and precious stone. YEt you would NEVER take that same energy telling lost sinners Jesus died for their sins. I believe according to your doctrine it's still up to God to decide who is His Elect. Understanding YOUR DOCTRINE will never change ones outcome if they are not the Elect, even if they know the doctrine by heart. How do we know for sure YOU and JOHN just haven't been brainwashed by a doctrine you seem to like, without proof you are the elect. And if you are the elect...WHY BOAST about it? AND do you believe one must believe the Calvin doctrine to be saved? Is that WHY you work so hard to gain followers?
---kathr4453 on 12/18/16


You see Markv, I've never understood why YOU and now John force a doctrine down people's throat that doesn't save anyone to begin with. DOCTRINE does not save..JESUS SAVED, BY HIS DEATH AND RESURRECTION LIFE.

I am saved, and do not believe in your doctrine. And I don't see the need to even believe such a doctrine when the Holy Spirit has taught me otherwise. YOU follow early church fathers and their writings that are NOT Holy Spirit writings. To try to prove a doctrine by bringing in early church fathers is not necessary. The BIBLE without those men have told us all we need to know to find salvation. GNostics were there right from the beginning of the church age and before.
---kathr4453 on 12/18/16


Kath, I read what you say here and then read what you said John on another blog that close, and here is what you said:
" It's your soul John, and YOU will be without excuse when you face the Judgement seat in not sharing the LOVE OF GOD to ALL lost sinners. I will be one who testifies AGAINST YOU." Your words to another brother.
First, he said nothing to you that was wrong. Second, only believers stand at the Judgment Seat of Christ for rewards, and you claimed that you would testify against him. No one testifies against another believer. Where is you love for your brother?
All those without Christ go to the Great White Throne of Judgment.
---Luke on 12/18/16


//Still, not everyone is a racist, though most have a preference for what they were born into.//

True, but said in a CHARITABLE way.

//The quasi anonimity of CN emboldens folks to think they are safe from reprisal, but their "disquise" has no shield from Spiritual retribution.//

Correct!

I am GUILTY of that.

//racist - showing or feeling discrimination, prejudice, and superiority to other races

bigot - intolerance to different opinions ---aservant on 12/16/16

Well said. Thank you.
---Nicole_Lacey on 12/16/16


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All are selfish, haters of others, jealous, back-biters, obstinate, and rebellious. All are racists.

But God who is rich in mercy has shown us how to love our brethren and has given us the liberty to love as God loves ---Mark_Eaton on 12/15/16


Lord, thank You for the wisdom you have given Mark.

Still, not everyone is a racist, though most have a preference for what they were born into.

The quasi anonimity of CN emboldens folks to think they are safe from reprisal, but their "disquise" has no shield from Spiritual retribution.

racist - showing or feeling discrimination, prejudice, and superiority to other races

bigot - intolerance to different opinions
---aservant on 12/16/16


//just because I do not like the PC in our nation does not give me permission to be rude, brash, or condescending....And I need to continue to love my neighbor and brother.---Mark_Eaton on 12/15/16

Thanks Mark for acting out Matthew 5:9!
---Nicole_Lacey on 12/15/16


Thank you Mark_Eaton.....it can be so easy to get snarled up in things one never intended to in the first place. No matter what some of us say or feel or share, someone will always be there to make snarky remarks, and then we get snarky back and then it turns to road rage..YES, it just needs to stop.

Some folks just need to be avoided all together. Even with an apology, some continue to keep at you till.........

I'll have to watch your movie suggestion.
---kathr4453 on 12/15/16


Maybe you don't get it
---kathr4453 on 12/15/16

I get it. Ever watch the "Hebrew Hammer"? I love the scene with the quarter laying on the floor.

I love Mel Brooks comedy. But Mel would not be tolerated today. As you say, too much PC to go around.

But as I see it, just because I do not like the PC in our nation does not give me permission to be rude, brash, or condescending. We will answer for EVERY idle word spoken. Especially in jest. And especially to other Believers.

And I need to continue to love my neighbor and brother. I cannot love someone I am shouting at. I need to accept them, faults and all, and not try to change them. Changing them is Gods job, not mine.
---Mark_Eaton on 12/15/16


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//Jewish people have probably been the most persecuted and oppressed of any people in the world,...Yes, we too do not like racism, prejudice, pogroms, Inquisitions that the RCC did to us,//

Sweetie, you are NOT listening to Mark!

You complain of prejudice and then you turn around your hatred towards Catholics????

Queen Elizabeth I tortured more Catholics than any other human being.

//yes JEWS laugh our heads off at.//

Not REAL JEWS THEY CRY!

Only Jewish people who HATE their own LAUGH at the HORRORS done to them.

//Maybe you don't get it.//

Of course he doesn't because he ISN'T a Racist!

//OREO???? OH Please.---kathr4453 on 12/15/16

SAID AS A TRUE RACIST CAN SAY IT!
---Nicole_Lacey on 12/15/16


I love the one...You know your a Redneck when you prefer using your car key over a Q Tip. Or "you know you're a Redneck when your old broken TV is used for a TV Stand for the new TV. ".

The TRUTH is Mark_Eaton, no matter what JOKE comes from what camp....we can all see some truth of ourselves in the Joke. I bet even William F. Buckley cleaned out his ears with his car keys at least ONCE and laughed his head off when he heard that joke.

Yet, if someone who never heard the word Redneck before looks it up online see it is Categorized as RACIST......well .....sadly... THANK GOODNESS FOR DONALD TRUMP WHO HAS BROKEN DOWN THE WALLS OF BEING POLITICALLY INCORRECT....RIGHT NICOLE! GO Donald.
---kathr4453 on 12/15/16


Mark_Eaton, I understand what you are saying, but I guess I come from a different perspective. Jewish people have probably been the most persecuted and oppressed of any people in the world, YET, like Mel Brooks, WE CAN LAUGH AT OURSELVES, and situations. Maybe WE just see things differently. Yes, we too do not like racism, prejudice, pogroms, Inquisitions that the RCC did to us, but to be honest, Mel's History of the Wordl Part 1 "the Inquisition" is something Jews, yes JEWS laugh our heads off at. Maybe you don't get it. So I just can't get all that worked up over someone calling someone of their own race a name. Now if there were terror threats and they were beat up, that's a different story. OREO???? OH Please.
---kathr4453 on 12/15/16


Life is more difficult for those who are still in and of the world. But when you know you are a New Creature in Christ, neither Jew or Gentile or barbarian or black or white or red or yellow or whatever, then we should not be moved or outraged when someone calls us names. Bible Thumper, Jesus Freek, are also mean hateful names. WE actually are the most hated of all. The World HATES us, and Jesus said we would be HATED and called names and killed. SO what did He say for us to do?

Just to be clear Nicole, I have never called you that word. I may be IGNORANT of what it means to you being called by that from your own people. I am sorry you were hurt by your own kind, and I am sorry that I don't understand that hurt.
---kathr4453 on 12/15/16


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//are your feelings hurt because I said Chris Rock fits the description / definition more than you do?//

Sweetie, NO ONE FITS THAT DEFINITION!

WHY CAN'T YOU UNDERSTAND THAT?

IT IS A RACIAL SLUR!

//Why DOES Chris Rock have to act White for you? Isn't being HIMSELF ENOUGH?

//YOU are a racist because you seem to HATE being compared to a white person HUMMMM---kathr4453

Is BEING BLACK HISPANIC BAD TO YOU?

//pulled up the racial slur data base for whites. I've never laughed this hard in years.//

Not SURPRISED!

ANY AND ALL RACIST JOKES ARE NOT FUNNY!

//Maybe white people just have the ability to laugh at themselves more than others.---kathr4453

ONLY WHITE RACIST PEOPLE LAUGH.
---Nicole_Lacey on 12/15/16


Maybe white people just have the ability to laugh at themselves more than others.
---kathr4453 on 12/15/16

You are giving yourself too much credit.

The racial slur that causes plenty of disturbance in white people is being called RACIST.

Look at how much time and blog space you have spent on it. Denial is a reaction to it. Anger is a reaction to it. White guilt is a reaction to it.

What is our proper reaction to it?

Honesty. All humanity are selfish, haters of others, jealous, back-biters, obstinate, and rebellious. We all are racists.

But God who is rich in mercy has shown us how to love our brethren and has given us the liberty to love as God loves
---Mark_Eaton on 12/15/16


I pulled up the racial slur data base for whites. I've never laughed this hard in years. Whites who wanna be Asian, Whites who want to be Japanese, whites who want to be black, whites who want to be Native American. Then we have various slag terms whites have given other whites for this or that. REDNECK, Yep BAD WORD. Yet Jeff Foxworthy doesn't mind using it and we all laugh. I hear REDNECK all the time, and even hear one redneck calling some kid from Pakistan who lives Next door to him a "Pakistani Redneck" while he gives him a hug around the neck and says, OK, let's get back to work. Those were my HVAC guys....and funny funny funny.

Maybe white people just have the ability to laugh at themselves more than others.
---kathr4453 on 12/15/16


WHy would a black person acting white, be white on the inside and black on the outside. It should be black on the inside, and white on the outside. The inside of anyone can't be changed...but the outside can, giving off the illusion of what you want others to believe you are. And a Wigger is just the opposite, white on the inside and acting BLACk on the outside. Whoever came up with that definition must be one stupid black person ..

WHAT IS ACTING WHITE MEAN? That Only whites support the Law? So if you are a black and a law breaker, being called an OREO would be insulting because.....???.

OH I GET IT NOW......So Nicole, you're offended because you love breaking the law right....otherwise you would take it as a compliment.
---kathr4453 on 12/14/16


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Nicole, are your feelings hurt because I said Chris Rock fits the description / definition more than you do? I really think that is what is wrong with you. But the definition I brought up was just one of many different definitions. I don't believe Chris Rock would be offended. I think he would be above it. And certainly he has been called OREO. Also it sounds like YOU are a racist because you seem to HATE being compared to a white person HUMMMM..a law abiding white person at that. THAT is what I just can't get a grip on. If blacks possessed a quality ABOVE whites and certain white folks were called a word that compared them to that GREAT QUALITY! Why would those white people act like they were compared to dog poop? I still don't get it.
---kathr4453 on 12/14/16


Kathr keep up! You said I didn't fit the 'oreo' definition rather Chris Rock did.

//You told Haz27 you were called OROE because you are a Republican who supports your local police.//

All police officers all over the Great USA.

Remember the definition esp. since you like to use it.

'Oreo' means a Black person who acts or thinks he or she is White. Oreo cookie? Black on the outside and White inside.

YES, Dumb Democrats believe only White people are ALLOWED to be Republicans.

//Or does it really mean Blacks who have lighter skin than other blacks?---kathr4453 on 12/14/16

????

Are you talking about the Oreo cookie with a brown filling?

Kathr, stop trying to JUSTIFY using that word!
---Nicole_Lacey on 12/14/16


Rob, I wouldn't bother. Nicole has been shown over and over lies she has fabricated here, mostly out of revenge, and still smugly denies it. She just jumps tracks and starts talking about something else. I'm beginning to wonder if it isn't cold and calculated....and the reason I say that is, one minute Nicole posts like she is from a foreign country acting like she can't write or speak the English language well, then, you see another post seeing the complete opposite.

Either she is out of control on some posts, and not on another. Regardless of that, she has been shown her lies, and will excuse her lies by saying...WELL YOU CALLED ME THIS OR THAT. As if that excuses LYING.
---kathr4453 on 12/14/16


//But there are too many times and proven to be an outright LIAR---Rob on 12/14/16

Rob, you can say you believe I am a Liar all the time.

That's SUBJECTIVE

Your OPINION, BELIEF, or FEELING.

But you CAN'T say I have been PROVEN to be a liar.

Proof means you have evidences.

THAT'S OBJECTIVE

Your opinions, beliefs, and feelings ARE NOT objective DATA.

State what PROOF you think you have that I have lied.

Remember, Kathr's comments are subjective data as well.

Repost my comments and PROVE me WRONG.

GOT IT?
---Nicole_Lacey on 12/14/16


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Nicole, I don't always agree with Kathr.

But there are too many times and proven to be an outright LIAR
---Rob on 12/14/16


DRUNKER, NURSE JACKIE, some other Saturday Night Live trash Character you watch,
DUMB, LIAR, CRAZY, MENTALLY ILL, THIEF, KILLING MY PATIENTS, NOT A NURSE, and many more I can't even remember is what you call trying with me???////


So is this what OREO means, the things above? Is this what your people in Alabama called you and it means OREO? You told Haz27 you were called OROE because you are a Republican who supports your local police.

So make up your mind as to what OREO really means. If it means all the things I said you were, that can describe any nut case no matter what color their skin is....are you NOW saying THAT is what OREO means?

Or does it really mean Blacks who have lighter skin than other blacks?
---kathr4453 on 12/14/16


So what I take from Nicole's last post is that she is falsely accusing me, because she has posted a list of things she states I have falsely accused her of.

So we do have a confession here, that Nicole's MOTIVE for her malice of lying and falsely accusing and making up lies is out of REVENGE. pay back so to speak.

Well, in a court of Law Nicole, your excuse for your crimes would not find you NOT GUILTY or even INNOCENTS of your crimes. It would only show MOTIVE of your crimes.

I knew eventually you would shoot yourself in the foot. NOW I can move on.
---kathr4453 on 12/14/16


//You IGNORANTLY accuse me of many things, that are not TRUE.//

I re-posted your OWN blogs.

In your own words.

And you still have the nerve to DENY your own words.

//I really have tried with you,//

WHAT? Calling me STUPID, DRUNKER, NURSE JACKIE, some other Saturday Night Live trash Character you watch,
DUMB, LIAR, CRAZY, MENTALLY ILL, THIEF, KILLING MY PATIENTS, NOT A NURSE, and many more I can't even remember is what you call trying with me???

Thank God you were NOT MAD with me.

//I will no longer be speaking to you.---kathr4453 on 12/13/16

Please KEEP your PROMISE this time?
---Nicole_Lacey on 12/13/16


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Cluny, believe or not I agree with you and some people will be hostile towards me.

I believe many, if not most Protestants are not Christians. The same is true about Catholics.

This is just one of many reasons you will not hear me say I'm Protestant or Catholic.

I'm a Christian. Many RELIGIOUS people just like the Sadducees and the Pharisees have a problem with this!
---Rob on 12/13/16


//I thought YOUR black people in Alabama were democrats who called you ORIO
So why then would you accuse my Black friends who don't talk TRASH be accused of being DEMOCRATS?//

Because you are SO COMFORTABLE with the 'OREO' word.

Democrats who are Racist are the same in Georgia and Alabama

//Black Alabama Democrats say ORIO, and Black GA Democrats do not???//

Keep up. White and Black Democrats are them same. The State doesn't change the situation.

//who can't even keep her stories straight...//

Or you can't keep up?

//The bottom line Nicole is CHRISTIANS do not talk trash, regardless of whether they are Republican or Democrat.---kathr4453

I AGREE!

Please follow the bottom line
---Nicole_Lacey on 12/13/16


\\When I wrote I'm of Italian Decent and people wonder why I'm CHRISTIAN and not Catholic.\\

Roman Catholics ARE Christians.

But many, if not most, Protestants are not.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 12/13/16


//ORIO is used by Black people against Black people,//

News Flash: Black people can be Racist ALSO!

//one group of Blacks are jealous of other Blacks who want to look up to and achieve what//

That's the SIN OF ENVY not Racism!

//And if I'm not mistaken, wasn't it a Democrat President who stood by Equal Rights//

You are mistaken. Democrat Governor George Wallace of Alabama REFUSED the Black kids into White Schools. The Federal Government HAD TO FORCE him.

//Kennedy was AWESOME who was not a baby killer either.---kathr4453

TEDDY was a champion for baby killing via abortion and was a Democrat until his own death.

And he WASN'T AWESOME.

Ask the dead babies if he is SO AWESOME?
---Nicole_Lacey on 12/13/16


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//When I wrote I'm of Italian Decent and people wonder why I'm CHRISTIAN and not Catholic.

You did not write I was STEREOTYPING.

You wrote it was the most RACIST and dumbest thing you ever heard in your life.---Rob on 12/13/16

?????

BECAUSE YOU WERE STEROTYPING!

Racist people are the ones who stereotype others.

Kathr called Chris Rock an Oreo and gave her reasons.
All stretotypes

Not all Italians are Catholic Rob.

So WHY would SOMEONE BELIEVE you are Catholic JUST because you have Italian blood????
---Nicole_Lacey on 12/13/16


Nicole]_Lacey, you are an outright LIAR!!!!!

When I wrote I'm of Italian Decent and people wonder why I'm CHRISTIAN and not Catholic.

You did not write I was STEREOTYPING.

You wrote it was the most RACIST and dumbest thing you ever heard in your life.
---Rob on 12/13/16


There are so many brilliant Black men and women. DR. Ben Carson is one we can all know today. Brilliant.

Nicole, you're only IGNORANT of subjects, and that is a choice, not somethings you are born with or to, and has nothing to do with skin color.

You IGNORANTLY accuse me of many things, that are not TRUE. That is not an IQ issue, but a heart issue. Also as a side note......many VERY INTELLIGENT PEOPLE use bad grammar, again NOT an IQ issue or a skin color issue. I really have tried with you, but you Bring to mind Psalms 10 ...so Until your HEART CHANGES, and you STOP IGNORANTLY accusing me of anything and everything you just pull out of no where, I will no longer be speaking to you.
---kathr4453 on 12/13/16


ORIO is used by Black people against Black people, AKA Black on Black, because one group of Blacks are jealous of other Blacks who want to look up to and achieve what Dr. Ben Carson, Ms. Rice, Mr. Powell has, just to name a few, is something that even white folks envy.

And if I'm not mistaken, wasn't it a Democrat President who stood by Equal Rights and sicked the Federal Government on the Governor of Alabama for not allowing Black students in ALL SCHOOLS ...WHITE SCHOOLS so they could get a better , EQUAL education? And now somehow those who are democrats are evil?

I have never stated my political party here on CN, but have the utmost respect for all, Dems and Rep. Kennedy was AWESOME who was not a baby killer either.
---kathr4453 on 12/13/16


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Nicole, my how you contradict yourself. I thought YOUR black people in Alabama were democrats who called you ORIO because you support the Police, using proper Grammar, who are also Black and White and Asian and Spanish etc.

So why then would you accuse my Black friends who don't talk TRASH be accused of being DEMOCRATS? So Black Alabama Democrats say ORIO, and Black GA Democrats do not??? BECAUSE.....YOU ARE A PATHOLOGICAL LIAR who can't even keep her stories straight...

The bottom line Nicole is CHRISTIANS do not talk trash, regardless of whether they are Republican or Democrat.
---kathr4453 on 12/12/16


Kathr, just answer the question: **I HAVE TO COME FROM THE REJECTED SON??---Nicole_Lacey on 12/12/16

//Einstein Institute also use that to show Jew is a race because they have superior intelligence..higher IQ's and that YOUR RACE, 75% African are below IQ levels//

WOW! Are you playing games. You are so WICKED!

//using the THEORY that JEWS are a SUPERIOR RACE to yours......WHICH I CALL A RACIST belief.//

Don't blame the Einstein Institute

You made up that theory because you believe that theory

You believe Jewish people have higher IQ than Blacks.

How STUPID do you think we are on CN?

//before you speak Nicole, search out the truth.--kathr4453

I suggest you PRAY FIRST before you speak!
---Nicole_Lacey on 12/12/16


//My friends of ALL race and color never discuss such trash in the first place.//

Because your Black Friends are mostly likely DEMOCRATS as you!

So you wouldn't HAVE TO CALL them OREOS, because they wouldn't try to act White, and most likely don't speak proper English since they are not White like you.

They are acting Black as you should act and BEHAVE!

They DARE NOT be a Republican in Georgia.

Noooooooo indeed!

What kind of America would we have if there are Black Republicans?

Racist people just want color people to know their places! Right Kathr?

//GET THIS WOMAN OFF CN.---kathr4453

Just because Kathr wants me off?

You can post Racist Remarks, but I have to get off CN???
---Nicole_Lacey on 12/12/16


Mark obviously I am unable to explain my belief in a way that is understandable to you, my apologies.
---Josef on 12/12/16


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//Nicole, you still don't get it do you?//

I NOT PLAYING GAMES!

You asked a DIRECT QUESTION and I answered you.

Did you think I thought I was a DOG? COW? PIG? HORSE?

I know I am a HUMAN BEING!

There are different Races in the human being family.

//I'm multi-ethnic but of only one race.//

I am multi-ethnic as well and it means one with multiple races

//This is a major problem in the world. People refuse to believe and understand there is only one race of people in this world!!!---Rob on 12/12/16

GROW UP!

It's okay to have multiple races! God doesn't make mistakes.

Multiple races and Cultures makes the world INTERESTING!
---Nicole_Lacey on 12/12/16


"There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, there is neither male nor female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus." (Galatians 3:28)

And, "if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation, old things have passed away, behold, all things have become new." (in 2 Corinthians 5:17)

So, in Jesus, our identity is not mainly about any race or ethnic group or what country we are in, or our preference for how we use people to get sexual pleasure, but in Jesus we are

new.
---Bill on 12/12/16


But because you seem sincere, I'll try again.
---Josef on 12/11/16

Yes, I am sincere. I sincerely wish to understand what you believe. And unfortunately, your last post confuses me even more.

I will try to state what I understand from your last post.

You believe there are not three distinct separate persons with the Being of God, only one, the Father.

There is no Trinity of the Being or Essence of God in your belief.

Jesus, as Incarnate Son of God, possesses the same nature and beliefs as the Father, but is not of the same Being (God) or Essence as the Father.

Jesus did not exist prior to His Incarnation as mortal flesh in the same Being (God) or Essence as the Father.

Is this correct?
---Mark_Eaton on 12/12/16


//called Rob a RACIST because he's not an Italian Catholic.//

NO! I told him that is STEREOTYPING!

//Why doesn't the census include Hispanic as a race?

IT DOES!

In the 1990 Census, they INFORMED me that I could NO LONGER MARK the Black box.

If one parents was BORN in Latin area the GOVERNMENT MARKED us a Hispanic/Latino/Latina as a RACE!

Not until 2008 when Obama DECIDED to CLAIM one RACE over another RACE is when HISPANICS got mad!

SO IN 2010, they HAD TO CHANGE the Census status.

Now they allows one to mark want RACE one considers themselves (As Rob asked).

But they STILL ask if I am a Hispanic DESCENT!
Then the Census FORM asked if 'yes' than asked if Cuban or Puerto Rican?
---Nicole_Lacey on 12/12/16


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Nicole, you still don't get it do you?

I'm multi-ethnic but of only one race.

This is a major problem in the world. People refuse to believe and understand there is only one race of people in this world!!!
---Rob on 12/12/16


Got this off the internet. Does posting this make me a racist?

Hispanic is NOT a race. There are many races within the Latino community, including White, Black, Native Indian, and even Asian. Some segments, like the Cuban community, show very few mixed-race individuals. ... They added ethnic classifications of Hispanic Origin and Not of Hispanic Origin.
Why doesn't the census include Hispanic as a race? - Hispanic ...


So Nicole, again, answer Robs question with accuracy. Being Hispanic is not of any specific origin. Is why it is NOT considered a RACE.
---kathr4453 on 12/12/16


I would highly recommend one actually knows what RACE is before one so freely throws around the word racist. Otherwise it has no meaning at all close to what true racism is. Being Italian AGAIN is not a RACE, yet Nicole called Rob a RACIST because he's not an Italian Catholic.

I would prefer that because Nicole has used this term RACIST so inappropriately when we are living in a time when Racism is so horribly rearing its ugly head, that she be made to NOT POST, until she stops turning CN into a racial net. I think Nicole has ulterior motives for posting on CN.
---kathr4453 on 12/12/16


//Nicole_Lacey, what is your race?---Rob on 12/10/16

I consider myself as Black Hispanic or a Black Puerto Rican

But the Federal Government classifies me as only Hispanic.
---Nicole_Lacey on 12/11/16


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"Not to me. I am trying to understand you"

Mark I've been as clear as I can be. But because you seem sincere, I'll try again.

"Do you believe there are three distinct separate persons with the same Being of God," No.

"Do you believe that the Word (in John 1:1), Incarnated as Jesus Christ, has the same Being of God"
If by being you mean nature or inherent qualities, yes.

"is a separate distinct person" As the Incarnate Jesus, yes.

"and has been in relationship with God the Father from all eternity?"
In terms of involvement, as His word utilized in creation of all things, yes.
---Josef on 12/11/16


Nicole_Lacey, what is your race?
---Rob on 12/10/16


//THERE IS NO EXCUSE FOR ROAD RAGE UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES--Andy on 12/10/16

:D

That's a good one.
---Nicole_Lacey on 12/10/16


Acts5:32 And we are his witnesses of these things, and so is also the Holy Ghost, whom God hath given to them that obey him.

I believe I read somewhere Aservant saying God only gives the Holy Spirit to His elect, chosen, ......

So that very well may be WHY you are not brought under conviction of the Holy Spirit when you so falsely accuse others based on your own preconceived notions. And to add fuel to a fire the Lord would rather see you be used to bring healing rather than more rocks to the stoning, again is NOT of the Holy Spirit, or of the Lord.

So again, you are not God who can see into my heart , or Josef's or David you addressed as LIAR DAVID. Now who is the false one? The Hypocrite? You are Aservant.
---kathr4453 on 12/10/16


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//HOW DARE YOU CALL SOMEONE RACIST OR DUMB! --Rob

HARD DARE YOU YOU SAY RACIST THINGS!

I call it as I see it. I only reposted your words.

//With myself being of Italian Decent people often wonder why I'm CHRISTIAN and not Catholic.---Rob

That is the most racist and dumbest thing I ever heard.

RACIST because according to your logic people should WONDER since I am African descent in Alabama I should be a Baptist and a Democrat.---Nicole_Lacey on 10/29/16

Ones Race doesn't determine Ones religious beliefs. If you think so it makes you a racist.
---Nicole_Lacey on 11/2/16

The problem I have here is Nicole seems to accuse anyone and everyone of being racist.
---kathr4453 on 12/10/16


- 2 -
. . . with the Father all things are possible. My question, why? For love? Is that His reason for creating Angels, and man? ---Josef on 12/7/16

1Cor 2:14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.

Isa 55:9 For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my (Spiritual) ways higher than your (natural) ways, and my (Spiritual) thoughts than your (natural) thoughts.


Seldom does God explain. Natural man CANNOT understand. The Holy Spirit inside the Spiritual man already understands.
---aservant on 12/10/16


---kathr4453 on 12/7/16

Christ rewards humility, not your pride. You would not have reacted in pride if the Holy Spirit is residing in you.


Deuteronomy 8:14 pride will forget the Lord

Leviticus 26:19 God breaks pride

Luke 1:51 God scatters the proud

James 4:6 God is opposed to the proud

1 Peter 5:5 clothe yourselves with humility toward one another (not racism)

Proverbs 3:34 He gives grace to the afflicted (she will get the Grace because you tried to defame her.)
---aservant on 12/10/16


THERE IS NO EXCUSE FOR ROAD RAGE UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES
---Andy on 12/10/16


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the mathematical equation of multiplying one three times doesn't work,

It works perfectly. God is giving you the answer and you are missing it. 1x1x1 = 1

because three separate person, mathematically, would be 1+1+1, equalling three.

You are adding. You can't total 3 separate things. A red, white, and blue pencil cannot add to make one red pencil. Three fingers on your hand cannot be added to make one finger, but they can be used together to WORK AS ONE.

God was in Christ . . .
The Holy Spirit impregnated Mary, so Jesus is God.
---Josef on 12/7/16
---aservant on 12/10/16


//Listen Baby Cakes, you really need to move on. What you are doing to yourself really isn't healthy, or Christlike.//

Right, I should follow your behavior since you have SHOWN yourself as a Christ like model?

//So please stop the road rage by chasing after me and screaming out your window.--kathr4453 on 12/10/16

That might happen to you when you CUT SOMEONE OFF on the road and refuse to show any remorse.

Kathr, you can't hide behind your age in order to insult others, call names and say whatever you wish and believe no one is ALLOWED to challenge your words.

Life doesn't work like that anymore.

If you stop your behavior, I promise I will stop chasing you as you put it.

Agree?
---Nicole_Lacey on 12/10/16


Listen Baby Cakes, you really need to move on. What you are doing to yourself really isn't healthy, or Christlike. So please stop the road rage by chasing after me and screaming out your window.
---kathr4453 on 12/10/16


Here are posts where you BELIEVE the word 'OREO' is a Privilege Term

**A dark skinned person who displays characteristics of a white person. Oreo's are usually found listening to rock, and doing things that aren't usually classified as "black". They speak using proper grammar---kathr4453 on 11/23/16

**Nicole, I just posted the definition right off the internet. Chris Rock would come under that definition. It's not really considered a hateful term in the first place.--kathr4453 on 11/23/16

**I simply looked it up to see the definition that YOU claim you are called by democrats in Alabama. I said I DO NOT BELIEVE YOU, based on the definition. It doesn't describe you in any way shape or form.---kathr4453 on 11/24/16
---Nicole_Lacey on 12/10/16


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**So now you're a Black Hispanic Jew from Alabama who converted to Catholicism? SWEET!---kathr4453 on 11/30/16

**IF you were really Jewish Nicole YOU would know that.--kathr4453 on 12/1/16

**Nicole, taking a cheap DNA test..does not make you Jewish---kathr4453 on 12/1/16

**Having a drop of Jewish blood in you does not qualify you as being Jewish...Your nationality would be considered OTHER if you are a Heinz 57, as you showed you are...If you want to believe you are Jewish, go ahead.---kathr4453 on 12/1/16

**Your race of BLACK originated in Africa, not Europe,--kathr4453 on 12/2/16

**the majority of your DNA is African makes you AFRICAN Nicole, not Jewish--kathr4453 on 12/3/16
---Nicole_Lacey on 12/9/16


//Stay out of other people's business. Nicole and I will work it out, without YOU.//
This is a public forum. If you don't want to be rebuked, post as one who serves the Lord. Your racism (hatred) serves Satan.

//No one asked for YOUR OPINION.
I answer to Jesus. He hasn't rebuked me. I don't care what you think. You are a FAKE Christian.---kathr4453
---aservant on 12/9/16


---Josef on 12/7/16

Is 9:6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.

Does the Author lie??!!
---aservant on 12/9/16


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