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Do you believe in the death penalty? Why or why not?

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First, the commandments is "thou shalt not murder" not "thou shalt not kill" as most christians believe. If this were the case, God would be against his own laws.

Second, Israel has the lowest crime rate in the world. Why? Because their laws haven't changed in thousands of years (until recently, that is). The people know the consequences of their actions even if one murdered someone while drunk.

In other countries especially the United States and in Europe, laws are changing all the time. Liberals feel sorry for the drunkard that murdered someone because he wasn't in his right mind and the death penalty is too harsh.
---Steveng on 5/14/17


Gen 9:6 Whoso sheddeth man's blood, by man shall his blood be shed: for in the image of God made he man.
-This is God speaking, and we are still made in the image of God.
Rom 13:3-4 For rulers are not a terror to good works, but to the evil. Wilt thou then not be afraid of the power? do that which is good, and thou shalt have praise of the same: For he is the minister of God to thee for good. But if thou do that which is evil, be afraid, for he beareth not the sword in vain: for he is the minister of God, a revenger to execute wrath upon him that doeth evil.
-As true today as eons ago. His sword is not held just for show.
---micha9344 on 5/1/17


No, because the person might repent after several years.

The death penalty might occur before the person's conversion.
---Nicole_Lacey on 4/15/17


What am I suppose to see in these passages? I don't see the doctrine of election mentioned. If that's what you see, it's because you use predestination as your template when you read the Bible.
---David on 1/26/17

Sir, have you taken the time to read them??


---john9346 on 4/14/17


Please read Jn 6:37-45, 64-65, Jn 10:11-29, 17:1-12.

What am I suppose to see in these passages? I don't see the doctrine of election mentioned. If that's what you see, it's because you use predestination as your template when you read the Bible.
---David on 1/26/17




David my friend,

Please read Jn 6:37-45, 64-65, Jn 10:11-29, 17:1-12.

Sir, when you read, please listen to the Lord Jesus Christ to define his meaning in these verses...

Remember, he wrote them not you...
---john9346 on 1/25/17


Wow!, so the Lord Jesus Christ is, "Illogical." hmmmmmmmmmm "Blasphemous.---john9346

Ok, show us where Jesus used the words, "Doctrine of Election", and how I blasphemed. If you can't, doesn't that make it your teaching, and not Jesus Christ's?
---David on 1/25/17


david states, "Your right there John, lol. Illogicall teachings are hard to understand, and I have no desire to even try to understand them."

Wow!, so the Lord Jesus Christ is, "Illogical." hmmmmmmmmmm "Blasphemous."

David ask, "When and where, did I do this?"

Sir, please read prior on this blog your responses to me...
---john9346 on 1/25/17


david states, "That was the point I was trying to make earlier. They didn't write it either. Our bibles are mere translations of what the authors said. They are translated, in most cases, to fit into the translators preconceived beliefs. That's why we have over 40 English translations alone."Sir,to make sure understanding when I refer the Writers of Scriptures I am only referring to the men who wrote the "Scriptures." not King James or anyone else.

The Holy Spirit used 40 men to write "Scripture." he is only alluminate to us based on what he revealed to those men and nothing else only their words...
---john9346 on 1/25/17


David, I see you are still trying to tell everyone if they sin they lose their salvation.

Luke
I've never told anyone that. I teach the sinner, if they are still in sin, they have never had salvation.

Isn't it true, One must be born again, to enter into the Kingdom of God?
In accordance with (1 John 3:9), do the folks who are born of God, sin?

(1 John 3:9) Whosoever is born of God does not commit sin, for his seed remains in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.
---David on 1/25/17




you tell me that you understand the "Doctrine." from google lol...John

Your right there John, lol. Illogicall teachings are hard to understand, and I have no desire to even try to understand them.

David, you waste time when you don't let the authors of Scripture tell you what they meant after all they wrote it and not you nor me."...John

That was the point I was trying to make earlier. They didn't write it either. Our bibles are mere translations of what the authors said. They are translated, in most cases, to fit into the translators preconceived beliefs. That's why we have over 40 English translations alone.

Best to learn from the Holy Spirit, then you can see their errors.
---David on 1/24/17


David, I see you are still trying to tell everyone if they sin they lose their salvation. But you are wrong. No one is without sin. No one. Jesus was the only Person without sin. As long as we live in this sinful body, we are counted as sinners. Paul called it, "sin within me."
If you cannot grasp what he was talking about in Romans 7:14-20 then you are in big trouble.
He explains very well who he is and how sin stops him from doing the will of God because of his human sinful nature. That nature we will have until the Second Coming of Christ when we will be glorified.
---Luke on 1/24/17


Sir, you are the one who raised "The Doctrine of Election....John

When and where, did I do this?
---David on 1/24/17


I think David you are confused. I am against breaking the law. ---Samuelbb7

Samuel
I didn't say, you were for breaking the law. What I said was, many people believe they are saved, but if they sin, their trespasses are against their neighbor. And according to Paul, if you are still trespassing against your neighbor, you do not love them.
"Love worketh no ill to his neighbor"
---David on 1/23/17


John
You seem earnest in your concern for my well being, but I can Goggle "Doctrine of Election". There is no need to debate the issue, when neither one of our minds can be changed. But thanks for your concern, concern for others was another trait exhibited by my old friend Mark V.
---David on 1/21/17

Sir, you are the one who raised "The Doctrine of Election." furthermore you tell me that you understand the "Doctrine." from google lol

Let me repeat to you when I said prior:

"Sir, as I said to you, David, you waisttime when you don't let the authors of Scripture tell you what they meant after all they wrote it and not you nor me." This is how our minds are changed...
---john9346 on 1/22/17


I think David you are confused. I am against breaking the law. If I steal from a Neighbor I am in danger of being lost. I need to repent and pay my neighbor back.

But more then that. I need to get a job and go out and help those who need help. For loving my neighbor means I am to help them. Not breaking the law is too low a bar.

We are to be like Jesus.
---Samuelbb7 on 1/22/17


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But why is loving your neighbor the fulfillment of the Law?
(Romans 13:10) Love worketh no ill to his neighbour: therefore love is the fulfilling of the law.

What is ill to your neighbor?
(Romans 13:9) For this, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not kill, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness, Thou shalt not covet, .....
(1 John 3:9) KJV, also confirms this teaching.

Are John and Paul in error?
Don't both of you, aservant and Samuel, believe you can sin against your neighbor and still love them, thus being saved in sin?
Where are your biblical witnesses?
---David on 1/22/17


if he writes his commands on your heart, you are under the Law of Christ? ---David on 1/21/17

Gal 6:2 Bear ye one another's burdens, and so fulfil the law of Christ.

So if one bears the burdens of another, though he does not have the Law of Christ written on his heart, has he fulfilled Christ's Law?

Is the fulfilling of Christ's Law, or the writing of His Law on one's heart the EVIDENCE that one is subject to Christ, by honoring His command to love, even enemies?
---aservant on 1/21/17


The purpose of the law is to define sin. No law no sin.

Romans 3:31 Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law.
---Samuelbb7 on 1/21/17


Do you believe that you personally are "under the law"? If so, which law is that?---Jerry6593

Jerry
I'm under the Law of Christ, the Law which God writes on our hearts. Those Laws by which we are convicted by Gods Holy Spirit, through our conscience. Example of this can be found in (John 8:9)KJV.

Now I have a few questions for you.

If those, to whom God wrote the commandments on stone were under the Law of Moses, doesn't it seem reasonable to assume, if he writes his commands on your heart, you are under the Law of Christ?

If you weren't under the Law, how could the Holy Spirit convict you of sin? Can someone be convicted, if there is no law to be convicted of?
---David on 1/21/17


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John
You seem earnest in your concern for my well being, but I can Goggle "Doctrine of Election". There is no need to debate the issue, when neither one of our minds can be changed. But thanks for your concern, concern for others was another trait exhibited by my old friend Mark V.
---David on 1/21/17


Romans 13:1-5

Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God.

2 Whosoever therefore resisteth the power, resisteth the ordinance of God: and they that resist shall receive to themselves damnation.

3 For rulers are not a terror to good works, but to the evil. Wilt thou then not be afraid of the power? do that which is good, and thou shalt have praise of the same:

4 For he is the minister of God to thee for good. But if thou do that which is evil, be afraid, for he beareth not the sword in vain: for he is the minister of God, a revenger to execute wrath upon him that doeth evil.
---john9346 on 1/20/17


5 Wherefore ye must needs be subject, not only for wrath, but also for conscience sake.

6 For for this cause pay ye tribute also: for they are God's ministers, attending continually upon this very thing.

7 Render therefore to all their dues: tribute to whom tribute is due, custom to whom custom, fear to whom fear, honour to whom honour.

8 Owe no man any thing, but to love one another: for he that loveth another hath fulfilled the law.

9 For this, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not kill, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness, Thou shalt not covet, and if there be any other commandment, it is briefly comprehended in this saying, namely, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
---john9346 on 1/20/17


David,

Like I said if you want to dialog further on, "The Blessed Doctrine of Election.", please create a posting.
---john9346 on 1/20/17


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David: "I also find it strange when people claim they are "Not under the Law", expect everyone else, who breaks Gods laws, to be punished for breaking the law."

Do you believe that you personally are "under the law"? If so, which law is that?



---Jerry6593 on 1/20/17


John
Ok, I figured out what's going on. My Bible standard is the KJV. Yesterday, I was inadvertently looking at an NIV bible, which was made available to me. I had to take one more look to see if I was missing something, because you were so steadfast in your belief.

Got home and studied some more on the matter, and didn't see the word "Taxes" in my KJV. It was then, I discovered the translation was the source of my confusion.

When reading (Romans 13:6), the NIV uses the word "Taxes" instead of the word "Tribute", as in the KJV.
Since "Taxes" are collected by governments and not churches, I thought you were right. But "Tribute", was paid in churches. (1 Corinthians 16:1)
---David on 1/18/17


Sir, just listen to the writers of "Scripture." they know what they meant....---john9346 on 1/17/17

John
My apologies, I stand corrected. The mention of taxes in Romans 13, which I don't recall the church collected, turned the argument in your favor.

But there must be more to it, than that. I just can't believe God advocated the actions of a man like Hitler.

I'll look into it a little deeper.
---David on 1/17/17


John
I finally came to the conclusion there is no possible way for me to change your mind, on anything. I don't even enjoy our conversations, So why would I choose to continue in this, or any other conversation with you?
---David on 1/17/17

Sir, as I said to you, David, you waisttime when you don't let the authors of Scripture tell you what they meant after all they wrote it and not you nor me.

Sir, just listen to the writers of "Scripture." they know what they meant....
---john9346 on 1/17/17


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John
I finally came to the conclusion there is no possible way for me to change your mind, on anything. I don't even enjoy our conversations, So why would I choose to continue in this, or any other conversation with you?

You remind me of Mark V, and Luke. I don't enjoy my conversations with them either. It's like you are all one person?
---David on 1/17/17


John
Did I bring the civil authority into the church by claiming they are God ordained,....Or was it you?
I believe it was you who made that claim.
---David on 1/14/17

Sir,I am certain it was the Holy Spirit using Paul in Rom 13.

David, you waisttime when you don't let the authors of Scripture tell you what they meant after all they wrote it and not you nor me
---john9346 on 1/15/17


Sir, first, it is telling that you have to go outside of "Scripture." to try to proove your point of which it doesn't...

John
Did I bring the civil authority into the church by claiming they are God ordained,....Or was it you?
I believe it was you who made that claim.

I gave North Korea as an example, an example of the civil authorities you claim God ordained. I gave you a square peg that doesn't fit in your round hole, but you try to make it fit anyway. And then run from this fact with your pointed accusations.

I will not waste any more of my time with you on this matter.
---David on 1/14/17


Isn't it strange that the people who are against the death penalty for brutal murderers typically seem to favor it for innocent unborn children.

Jerry
It is strange, I agree, but not everyone who doesn't believe in the death penalty, is for abortion. I am against abortion.

I also find it strange when people claim they are "Not under the Law", expect everyone else, who breaks Gods laws, to be punished for breaking the law.
---David on 1/13/17


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I used North Korea to prove (Romans 13) is not talking about civil authority, but about those whom God ordained with Church authority.
If you believe God ordained these leaders who do evil, do you also believe God ordained the evil they do?
---David on 1/13/17


Sir, first, it is telling that you have to go outside of "Scripture." to try to proove your point of which it doesn't please continue Paul explain what he means in Rom 13.

Next, if you want to dialog with me on the "Blessed Doctrine of Election." create a posting and I will be glad to discuss this further with you.
---john9346 on 1/13/17


David
Also, I am nondenominational...

Just so you know if you create the posting so we can talk about "The Doctrine of Election."
---john9346 on 1/13/17


Amen Gordon.

Isn't it strange that the people who are against the death penalty for brutal murderers typically seem to favor it for innocent unborn children.

[Yes Cluny, I am in favor of the death penalty and against abortion. I don't care what you or anyone else says.]



---Jerry6593 on 1/13/17


what does this have to do with Capital Punishment/the death penalty??
Yes, all things are ordained of God...John


John
Bill used (Romans 13) as proof, proof that God uses the civil authorities to exact the death penalty. In other countries, such as North Korea, Christianity is against the Law. The punishment is death. You say God ordained these leaders, these leaders who kill Christians.

I used North Korea to prove (Romans 13) is not talking about civil authority, but about those whom God ordained with Church authority.
If you believe God ordained these leaders who do evil, do you also believe God ordained the evil they do?
---David on 1/13/17


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John
Kim Jong-un, and many others have made Christianity illegal in their countries. And your denomination teaches they are ordained of God?

This is a very dangerous teaching.
Why?
What will keep them from getting the Mark of the Beast when the Anti-Christ takes power, when this becomes the Law?

---David on 1/12/17

Sir, what does this have to do with Capital Punishment/the death penalty??

Yes, all things are ordained of God...
---john9346 on 1/12/17


Rom 13 start and opens with this, "Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God."John

John
Kim Jong-un, and many others have made Christianity illegal in their countries. And your denomination teaches they are ordained of God?

This is a very dangerous teaching.
Why?
What will keep them from getting the Mark of the Beast when the Anti-Christ takes power, when this becomes the Law?
---David on 1/12/17


John notice chapter 13 follows chapter 12. Wouldn't that make 13 a continuation of 12?
---David on 1/11/17

Sir, Rom 12 ends with this, "Be not overcome of evil, but overcome evil with good."

Rom 13 start and opens with this, "Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God." Rom 13:1-2

2 Whosoever therefore resisteth the power, resisteth the ordinance of God: and they that resist shall receive to themselves damnation."
---john9346 on 1/11/17


Also, Rom 12 is dealing with Daily Spiritual Behavior Rom 13in context is speaking to Physical Governing Authorities.---john9346

(Romans 12:5-8) So we, being many, are one body in Christ, and every one members one of another. 6 Having then gifts differing according to the grace that is given to us, whether prophecy, let us prophesy according to the proportion of faith, 7 Or ministry, let us wait on our ministering: or he that teaches, on teaching, 8 Or he that exhorteth, on exhortation: he that gives, let him do it with simplicity, he that ruleth with diligence, he that sheweth mercy, with cheerfulness.

John notice chapter 13 follows chapter 12. Wouldn't that make 13 a continuation of 12?
---David on 1/11/17


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John
If the penalty for sin is death, and we have all sinned, who do you find righteous enough to carry out such a sentence?
---David on 1/11/17

Sir, that will be the one or group of individuals prooven to carry out the sentence. Just like God has ordained pastors to be our leaders although they sin, but God still uses them if you are going to use this standard then none of us can do nothing.


Also, Rom 12 is dealing with Daily Spiritual Behavior Rom 13in context is speaking to Physical Governing Authorities.
---john9346 on 1/11/17


Our Apostle Paul does say that a secular authority person "is God's minister to you for good" > "he does not bear the sword in vain, for He is God's minister, an avenger to execute wrath on him who practices evil." (in Romans 13:4).Bill

Bill
There are many folks who read (Romans 13:46) as you do. But if You go back to (Romans 12: 4-8), you will find Paul is not referring to civil authority, but to Church authority.
---David on 1/11/17


My point for stating Gen 9:6 is that it is "Universal." meaning its not exclusive to Israel it is universal so yes still binding.

John
If the penalty for sin is death, and we have all sinned, who do you find righteous enough to carry out such a sentence?
---David on 1/11/17


///aservant: Don't be such a zealot. God does what's His good pleasure, when & how He chooses. Take a deep breath & chill out. smh ---Leon on 1/6/17

If posting Scripture that shows God's view on a matter makes me a zealot, then that I am. These blogs are long on the opinions of men, human writers, and Satan's servants, but very short on the most important opinion, God's. And that I supply when and where I see need.---aservant on 1/9/17///

aservant: Please "supply" when your replies are "in context" to the subject matter rather than a pretext to your opinion(s). In other words, don't try square pegging round holes. God bless! :)

Gordon: Excellent Scripture observations sir.
---Leon on 1/10/17


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david:

"So all covenants which came before the Law of Moses are still binding?"

My point for stating Gen 9:6 is that it is "Universal." meaning its not exclusive to Israel it is universal so yes still binding.

"True, but the question was, Where does Christ call upon man to exact the death sentence?"

By reaffirming them remember he wrote the commandments (Jesus is God) as well as all commandments have a negative and possitive side.

See, Matt 5:17-18.
---john9346 on 1/10/17


John
Jesus died for the forgiveness of sin, including both of these commandments. If he didn't, wouldn't we all subject to death, if the penalty for sin is death?
---David on 1/10/17 David, this is spiritual there is a distinction between Spiritual and physical.

David, Jesus's Death was a Spiritual Redemption... not physical. We all must be careful in mixing Spiritual Things with Physical Thing in "Scripture."
---john9346 on 1/10/17


\\ These blogs are long on the opinions of men,\\

So is everything that you post, aservant.

Christ is baptized! In the Jordan!
---Cluny on 1/10/17


I do believe in the death penalty.

I believe GOD established the Death Penalty.

No, not stoning one to death as it was in the Old Testament (which GOD ordained, btw!)

But, by Capital Punishment.

I believe whole-heartedly that ROMANS 13:1-4 outlines that.

The powers that GOD ordained do not "bear the sword in vain".

A sword was (also) used for PUTTING TO DEATH.

I believe Capital Punishment, though, should be limited to such as when anyone murders another, or more, who are innocent of any wrong doing.

You take out a life, your life is, in turn, taken.
---Gordon on 1/10/17


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Our Apostle Paul does say that a secular authority person "is God's minister to you for good" > "he does not bear the sword in vain, for He is God's minister, an avenger to execute wrath on him who practices evil." (in Romans 13:4).

This is part of how God keeps control of evil. And He is in control of if and when someone gets executed.

But the best revenge is how God brings an evil person to Jesus, so that Satan and his kingdom can't use that person, any more, plus so the person is now acting against Satan and evil and doing what is good, instead.
---Bill on 1/10/17


Sir, Gen 9:6 was before the Mosaic Law.John
So all covenants which came before the Law of Moses are still binding?

The Lord Jesus affirm the commandments of you shall not murder and honor your Father and your mother. John
True, but the question was, Where does Christ call upon man to exact the death sentence?

Tell me, what was the penalty for breaking these 2 commandments and the Lord Jesus reaffirmed them.John
Jesus died for the forgiveness of sin, including both of these commandments. If he didn't, wouldn't we all subject to death, if the penalty for sin is death?
---David on 1/10/17


aservant: Don't be such a zealot. God does what's His good pleasure, when & how He chooses. Take a deep breath & chill out. smh ---Leon on 1/6/17

If posting Scripture that shows God's view on a matter makes me a zealot, then that I am. These blogs are long on the opinions of men, human writers, and Satan's servants, but very short on the most important opinion, God's. And that I supply when and where I see need.
---aservant on 1/9/17


John
Your quoting Old Testament Law (Genesis 9:6), when we are under a New Covenant. Can you show us where Christ commands us to do the same in the New Testament?
---David
David,

Sir, Gen 9:6 was before the Mosaic Law.

Also, Jn 8:34 and Matt 18:23-35 is spiritual not physical.

The Lord Jesus affirm the commandments of you shall not murder and honor your Father and your mother.

David, tell me what was the penalty for breaking these 2 commandments and the Lord Jesus reaffirmed them.
---john9346 on 1/9/17


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I do not believe in the death penalty because Jesus gave the qualifications for the executioners "Let the one without sin cast the first stone."
---Cluny on 1/5/17

So everyone knows the words, ""Let the one without sin cast the first stone."" is not in "Scripture.", it is a Manuscript Error...
---john9346 on 1/9/17


John
Your quoting Old Testament Law (Genesis 9:6), when we are under a New Covenant. Can you show us where Christ commands us to do the same in the New Testament?
---David on 1/9/17


cluny:

"There was a time that some people believed that slavery was acceptable to God, and quoted the Bible to prove it."

That is because they didn't understand First-century Slavery which was for Economical Reasons and not based on the color of ones skin.

"The trend is that towards the beliefs about the death penalty. Many Christians are finding it repulsive."

And like the principle understanding of slavery is this a lack of reading the "Scriptures." for what they mean??

Thank God for hermenutics...


"Whoso sheddeth man's blood, by man shall his blood be shed: for in the image of God made he man." Gen 9:6
---john9346 on 1/8/17


No I don't believe in the death penalty.

The reason?
Christ taught, "Everyone who sins is a slave of sin". Sin lives in the sinner, much like a virus can live in someone whose sick. Do you get angry at a sick person for sneezing, throwing up or coughing? Or do you blame these symptoms on the virus, the virus which lives in those who are sick?

The penalty for sin is death, a penalty for which we have all been spared, for now. How can a man, not show mercy for a Law Breaker, when God has shown them mercy for breaking the Law? This is exactly what the parable in (Matthew 18:23-35) is about.

Notice in the parable, what happens to the servant who doesn't forgive the debts of others.
---David on 1/8/17


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No, because it limits the time for repentance of one's sins.

No one knows if a person will convert or not.
---Nicole_Lacey on 1/7/17


David did not build the temple because blood was on his hands.
---mike4879 on 1/6/17


There was a time that some people believed that slavery was acceptable to God, and quoted the Bible to prove it.

Now, almost NO Christian believes that.

The trend is that towards the beliefs about the death penalty. Many Christians are finding it repulsive.

Christ is baptized! in the Jordan.
---Cluny on 1/6/17


aservant: Don't be such a zealot. God does what's His good pleasure, when & how He chooses. Take a deep breath & chill out. smh
---Leon on 1/6/17


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OT
1Chr 20:3 . . . cut them with saws, and with harrows of iron, and with axes . .

The man after God's own heart, David, executed people in pretty terrible ways.

NT
Rom 13:4 . . . if thou do that which is evil, be afraid, for he beareth not the sword in vain: for he is the minister of God, a revenger to execute wrath upon him that doeth evil.

This minister was given the sword by God. The sword is not the image of life in prison. God can convert him before he is executed.

1Cor 5:5 To deliver such an one unto Satan for the destruction of the flesh, that the spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus.

Remember, God Authored these words.
---aservant on 1/6/17


//...I...feel the same as Cluny...A big trial in my area is the Charleston church shooting...As a black man, do you think Dylan Roof should be executed?...why do you think God included the Death Penalty in the Jewish Law?---Mark_Eaton on 1/5/17///

Mark_E: I did ask the question because of the current Roof case. He confessed his guilt, has been convicted & is now subject to the death penalty. However, I prefer he receive life in prison without possibility of parole (public banishment: a type of death). God alone knows, maybe one day he'll repent of his sins & be saved. A prison ministry may be his destiny.

Also, God set the rules of the death penalty with Adam, long before the Jewish law was given.
---Leon on 1/6/17


Do you believe in the death penalty? Why or why not?
---Leon on 1/4/17

Leon, this seems to be the third or fourth blog by you about this subject.

Is there a reason for this repeated inquiry?

I personally feel the same as Cluny. However, the consequences for crimes are not mine to administer.

A big trial in my area is the Charleston church shooting. It is a racial crime.

I am curious. As a black man, do you think Dylan Roof should be executed?

Lastly, why do you think God included the Death Penalty in the Jewish Law?
---Mark_Eaton on 1/5/17


"Do you believe in the death penalty? Why or why not?" No.

To condemn a man to death would require a judgement on my part, and I haven't been called to judgement. As a matter of fact I am instructed not to judge. Besides, who am I to judge another mans servant? I choose to leave all judgement, to the only one qualified to do so.
---joseph on 1/5/17


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All of us are under a death penalty. Since the Fall and since our first parents decision to disobey God, we have been under death. All sin, all die. In the New Testament, Ananias and Saphira are struck dead by God as examples for lying, thus hastening death. Too me, it was extreme. To God, it was appropriate. I think some should die. After one does, it is alittle late to find them innocent. Mistakes are made. In the Bible, Ahab wanted a garden. JEZEBEL had a man falsely accused. The man was put to death on the testimony of scoundrels and Ahab got the garden. Unborn babies get the death penalty every day. The problem is that people who shouldn't be put to death are.
---mike4879 on 1/5/17


I do not believe in the death penalty because Jesus gave the qualifications for the executioners "Let the one without sin cast the first stone."

I'm also strongly pro-life--the seamless garment kind.

I'm not saying the guilty should not be punished or that society should not be protected from murderers. But I don't think DP is the way to do it.

Happy New Year!
---Cluny on 1/5/17


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