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MarkA: "A Nobel prize doesn't prove any special insight"

And a corrupt Communist politician like Al Gore even less!

It is the actual data that counts, not the author. Why not check that out? Or would the truth upset your left-wing religion too much?



---Jerry6593 on 2/9/17


Can someone please explain to Nicole_lacey what a PDF file is.
---NurseRobert on 2/8/17


Nicole_Lacey wrote: PDF ISN'T a Government form. That's why it's bogus and you know that."

PDF isn't a government form, that's true, but all government forms are converted to PDF (Portable Document Format) for electronic storage. Just FYI.
---Steveng on 2/8/17


I want a Government form about Trump.
---Nicole_Lacey on 2/7/17

All you have to do is look.

According to the US Office of Government Ethics:

5 U.S.C. app. 101, 5 C.F.R. 2634.202
The following individuals are required to file an Executive Branch Personnel Public Financial Disclosure Report:
Candidates: A candidate for nomination or election to the office of President or Vice President.
A Presidential nominee to a position requiring the advice and consent of the Senate

If you look hard enough you will find one on every member of the President's (Obama and Trump) cabinet. There is also a requirement for every member of the House and the Senate to file one.
---Robert on 2/8/17


If I remember correctly 182 people in The Reagan Administration were indicted for crimes.

Trump is competing with Reagan to be the most corrupt President in U.S. History!
---Rob on 2/8/17




Why do you think God put President Trump in office, AGAINST THE ALL OUT ONSLAUGHT of many voters?
---aservant on 2/8/17


alllcole_Lacey on 2/7/17
//I don't know what that means??//

You are not that naive.//

Not knowing all text lingo isn't being naive.

I can't even text with both hands. I text with one finger.

//The stuff I gave you were all websites, with the exception of Donald-Trump-Personal-Financial-Disclosure-2016.pdf. If you Google that you will find a PDF of the disclosure form.

And what makes you think its bogus?---NurseRoberton 2/7/17

Again the official Government form title you gave me was about Kerry not Trump.

PDF ISN'T a Government form. That's why it's bogus and you know that.

I want a Government form about Trump.
---Nicole_Lacey on 2/7/17


//Did that site pop up a Microsoft window saying, "Your computer is infected with a virus. Call this number so we can fix it.//

YES YES YES. I turned off my phone immediately.

//It is a scam to scare people into downloading ransomware so they can scramble your files..--StrongAxe

Thanks.

Nevertheless, this does not happen to Government legit files that's what I'm trying to tell NurseRobert.

The source he gave speaks about John Kerry not Trump.

I believe someone used Kerry's files altering it to discredit Trump.
---Nicole_Lacey on 2/7/17


---Nicole_Lacey on 2/7/17
//I don't know what that means??//

You are not that naive. You know you cannot post a website on CN. The stuff I gave you were all websites, with the exception of Donald-Trump-Personal-Financial-Disclosure-2016.pdf. If you Google that you will find a PDF of the disclosure form.

And what makes you think its bogus?
---NurseRobert on 2/7/17


//I call BS.//

I don't know what that means what are you saying?

//I went to each of those sites this morning and reevaluated the data.//

Not with the SAME data you gave me. Copy and paste the exact information you gave me into the search engine.

1st it pulls up John Kerry not Trump in the Government official documents.

2nd the only one that has Trump's name in it is the bogus one.

If there was a government Disclosure form on Trump LIKE John Kerry it would have pulled up easily as John Kerry's official documents.

//As far as Trump, I did not give you a web site, I gave you the name of the form, JUST AS YOU ASKED.--NurseRobert

I did and it pulled up John Kerry's forms (Secretary of State)
---Nicole_Lacey on 2/7/17




Nicole_Lacey:

Did that site pop up a Microsoft window saying, "Your computer is infected with a virus. Call this number so we can fix it. If you close this window, or don't call within 5 minutes we will disable your computer's access so it can't further harm our network"?

It's only a virus in that it infects your mind (with fear), not your computer. Just close the window.

It is a scam to scare people into downloading ransomware so they can scramble your files and extort money from to get them back. I have seen that several times, including 3 times on Facebook.


Jerry6593:

A Nobel prize doesn't prove any special insight, unless it's in the field being referenced (which Giaever's isn't).
---StrongAxe on 2/7/17


-Nicole_Lacey on 2/7/17

I call BS. I went to each of those sites this morning and reevaluated the data. I just went to each of them again, JUST now, with no problems. It's not my fault you can't put in a proper website.

As far as Trump, I did not give you a web site, I gave you the name of the form, JUST AS YOU ASKED. Try googling Trump Financial Disclosure. There are multiple sites that have posted this form.

Jerry, now your just being obtuse. Our original conversation was about CO2. At that time I told you I'm not an expert. You have YET to provide the data about temp changes or to explain the correlation between temp and CO2 levels. Are you unable to do so?

Maybe your right winger sites are flawed..
---NurseRobert on 2/7/17


Thanks a lot NurseRobert, you're bogus sources almost gave me a virus.

The legit one was from the federal government and it was about John Kerry.

The bogus one on Trump almost infected my phone with a virus.

I had to quickly turn off my phone.
---Nicole_Lacey on 2/7/17


Nursey: Once again you fail to demonstrate any understanding whatever of the "science" you so vehemently defend. And no, "I already did" is not a valid answer.

So prove me wrong. Accept the challenge like a man and quit tap-dancing. Or at least admit that you are ignorant on the subject and "truly believe" your left-wing "dear leaders".

Why not check out Nobel Prize winner Ivar Giaever's data on the HOAX of man-caused Global Warming? You might learn something.



---Jerry6593 on 2/7/17


Steveng: "one trillion earths"

Even scientists make mistakes.


"Common sense, how can decaying plants and animal matter travel deep within the earth and then travel to the surface again?"

Noah's flood. Oil and methane gas rise. Haven't you seen the man-made artifacts found in coal beds?



---Jerry6593 on 2/7/17


Abiogenic petroleum

Vladimir Kutcherov, Anton Kolesnikov, and Alexander Goncharov's research work was recently published in the scientific journal Nature Geoscience.

J. F. Kenney, Joint Institute of the Physics of the Earth,
Russian Academy of Sciences, Moscow

One scientist (I forgot his name) in Georgia (USA) experimented on how much oil can be generated from one hundred pounds of decaying plants and animal matter. He calculated that it would have taken one trillion earths to create all the oil that was used from 1900 to 1979.

Common sense, how can decaying plants and animal matter travel deep within the earth and then travel to the surface again?
---Steveng on 2/6/17


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//Are you having trouble following your own posts?//

No you are trying trouble keeping up. That was 6 days ago!

***None of the data I gave you was from Gore, but from NOAA, NASA and a number of papers printed on the subject.---NurseRoberton 2/5/17

Lets answer recent comments so you will not get confused on WHICH sources you have to defend

Please either give those sources or admit you don't have them.

//When you actually go and find the conversation I had with Jerry, then I will be happy to supply you with the sources.---NurseRoberton 2/6/17

Look up and read it for the 3rd time I have reposted it.

You were SPEAKING to Jerry

Answer, or take your ball home.
---Nicole_Lacey on 2/6/17


//look at Trumps 2016 federal disclosure forms.//

I work in the Federal government. "federal disclosure forms" does not exist.

What type of disclosure? Form number? Form title? All federal forms has a name and numbers.


---Nicole_Lacey on 1/30/17

Again, PROVE IT!
I am not saying he doesn't but Leftists love to give beliefs as facts
--Nicole_Lacey on 1/29/17

Are you having trouble following your own posts?

No, I'm not talking about Obama, I'm talking about Trump and his part ownership of the Dakota Access Pipeline.

When you actually go and find the conversation I had with Jerry, then I will be happy to supply you with the sources.
---NurseRobert on 2/6/17


//OEG Form 278e (March 2014)
US Office of Government Ethics: 5 CFR, Part 2613.
The title of the form is:
Executive Branch Personnel Public Financial Disclosure Report.
It was signed by Trump on 5 May 2016.--NurseRobert

I think you meant Obama.

I'm going to verify the documents.

Because for the life of me I can't undersunderstand WHY Obama NEEDS to sign documents for NASA or NOAA research????

And WHY would scientific reports be in a FINANCIAL DISCLOSURE report?

Did you forget the sources I was asking about?

//None of the data I gave you was from Gore, but from NOAA, NASA and a number of papers printed on the subject.--NurseRoberton 2/5/17

Can you COUGH UP their titles?
---Nicole_Lacey on 2/6/17


We spend most of a blog talking about climate change and CO2 levels. I told you then I was no expert in climate science, but I do know how to read.

I asked how you reconcile an obvious correlation between temperature increase and CO2 levels. You came back with a statement how the earth was cooling since 2008, which is not true. When asked for your data, you failed to provide it.

Now you come back with the same old tired stuff. Still trying to prove how smart you are?
---NurseRobert on 2/6/17


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Already did that once, Jerry (which, btw, YOU accepted). Stop wasting people's time.
---NurseRobert on 2/6/17


Nursey: Prove me wrong. Explain, in your own words, the Greenhouse Effect, or at least a plausible mechanism by which it operates. Describe the method by which an atmospheric spectral convolution integral including and excluding the CO2 absorption bands would be set up, and tell us the resulting ratio of the two solutions. If you can't even set up such a methodology without looking it up, then how can you blindly accept the conclusions of politicians who can't reason scientifically either?



---Jerry6593 on 2/6/17


Obviously not, Nicole_Lacey. If you click on my name you will find the information I posted (excuse me - data, not sources) is not listed under my name because CN only lists a certain number. Most of us do not need our hands held, but are capable of looking up information on our own.

In answer to your other question.

OEG Form 278e (March 2014)
US Office of Government Ethics: 5 CFR, Part 2613.

The title of the form is:

Executive Branch Personnel Public Financial Disclosure Report.

It was signed by Trump on 5 May 2016.

Would you like me to interpret the form for you too??
---NurseRobert on 2/6/17


Mark E: No, I wasn't familiar with Gold's theory of abiogenic petroleum. So I studied up on it and found it an interesting (but unproven) theory. If true, the environmental whackos can stop all the alternative energy nonsense as we will have an unlimited supply of oil and natural gas.

I, like the majority of scientists however, don't believe it. Some scientists do, such as Fred Hoyle (who brought us "panspermia" - the theory that aliens "seeded" our planet with life).

It has some holes like the C13 markers and their correlation to plants and animals.

As with many scientific theories, it presupposes a long age earth paradigm rather than a Biblical one (Genesis Creation and Noah's Flood).

---Jerry6593 on 2/6/17


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//Go search for the blog on your own, Nicole_Lacey.. Jerry knows what I'm talking about.---NurseRobert on 2/5/17

Okay?

Jerry, could you please repost NurseRobert's NASA OR NOAA sources?

Keep up, NurseRobert.

I ALREADY DID THE SEARCH.

That's why I told you to click on your name and YOU WILL FIND OUT YOU DIDN'T CITE ANY SOURCES.

I am sorry, you did cite one source: Tolkien 1937.

That's it.

Please don't embarrass yourself claiming you have cited more sources.

Because if you had you would have REPOSTED them.
---Nicole_Lacey on 2/5/17


Yes, please remember if you don't cite your statements they are opinion as well.
---Nicole_Lacey on 2/5/17

Go search for the blog on your own, Nicole_Lacey.. Jerry knows what I'm talking about.
---NurseRobert on 2/5/17


//None of the data I gave you was from Gore, but from NOAA, NASA and a number of papers printed on the subject.//

Really?

Give the headings of the subject papers?

I work in the Federal Government. EVERY printed subject or topic has a title.

Usually the title has both letters and numbers for easy access.

BTW, click on your name. Not one of your posts has citation from NASA or NOAA.

If I am wrong, please repost it--date and all.

I will be HAPPY to give you an apology.

//You're opinion is your opinion. Big deal ---NurseRobert on 2/5/17

Yes, please remember if you don't cite your statements they are opinion as well.
---Nicole_Lacey on 2/5/17


NurseRobert wrote: "None of the data I gave you was from Gore, but from NOAA, NASA and a number of papers printed on the subject."

I'm going to break this little bit of news to you, but your sources are as corrupt as the politicians. Science was somewhat a respectable profession until the 1920s when they began to make up numbers and falsify reports on a larger scale to achieve their personal agendas. Science has been corrupt since the beginning, but more so since the 1950s.

Put your faith in God, not man's science.
---Steveng on 2/5/17


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I seriously doubt that any of them could explain the atmospheric greenhouse effect, let alone compute the contribution that CO2 has on it.
--Jerry6593 on 2/5/17

You and I had this discussion in another blog. Multiple times I asked you to provide the data to back up your statements and each time you failed to do so.

None of the data I gave you was from Gore, but from NOAA, NASA and a number of papers printed on the subject.

You're opinion is your opinion. Big deal
---NurseRobert on 2/5/17


Mike & Mark E: Thanks for injecting a little truth into the conversation. Our resident lefties get their "scientific" data from left-wing politicians like Al Gore, and instinctively believe whatever they're told. I seriously doubt that any of them could explain the atmospheric greenhouse effect, let alone compute the contribution that CO2 has on it.



---Jerry6593 on 2/5/17


You are right, Mark_Eaton, the world has never had so many trees. There is no problem. The world will be a better place with fewer forests and jungles. We are to subdue the earth. Until it is all paved over, there is nothing to be concerned about.
---mike4879 on 2/4/17


Ice caps are growing, not shrinking. What most people are reading is what MSM what's you to believe. Navigational maps of cira 1100 AD shows that sailors easily navigated north of Greenland and the Northwest Passages without encountering any ice. Sure, ice is melting on one side of the Antarctic, but growing on the opposite end.

As for deforestation, if you compare satellite pictures from 1975 to 2012, you'll find that worldwide foliage has grown because of the increase of CO2 in the air. CO2 to plants is like oxygen to humans. Satellite pictures of the Sahara Desert shows that the Sahara Desert is shrinking.

If people would do their own research instead of relying on MSM and the politicians they would know the truth.
---Steveng on 2/4/17


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Yet, other places are being deforested at alarming rates.
---mike4879 on 2/3/17

the globe is nevertheless being deforested at an alarming rate
---StrongAxe on 2/1/17

Do you two gentlemen have facts and figures to justify your assertions?

A global risk analysis group reports that Canada and Russia are at medium risk for deforestation, due to global warming. Huh?

A key reason for this analysis was buried in the report, that states "Deforestation is a key factor in contributing to rising atmospheric CO2 levels and subsequent climate change. Deforestation and forest degradation are estimated to contribute up to 20% of global greenhouse gases (GHG) every year"

More climate change "proof"?
---Mark_Eaton on 2/3/17


Mark_Eaton:

The numbers I gave are approximations, but not random guesses. I am on an M-power meater, where electricity is pre-paid, and the meter shows money remaining, KW used, KWH and mone used each day, etc. I have compared usage differences between winter and summer, and also during lean times when I wasn't able to run AC (summers in Phoenix without with 105 degrees indoors are brutal but survivable). I've also measured power usage with and without a running refrigerator.

AC is high in Phoenix in summer. I have city water (no well pump), and water heater is gas rather than electric. Clothes are easily sun-dried here. People with gas ranges could have different numbers too.
---StrongAxe on 2/3/17


Good, Mark_Eaton, that your neck of the woods is experiencing reforestation. Every bit helps. Yet, other places are being deforested at alarming rates. Good stewardship is not being practiced most places.

Revelations 11:18, The time has come for destroying those who destroy the earth.
---mike4879 on 2/3/17


In my house, about 70% of the power is used by heat/AC, and about 20% by fridge.
---StrongAxe on 1/31/17

Is this a guess or have you actually calculated it, for a generator?

If you look at wattage, a clothes dryer is 6800 watts, Central Air is 12000 watts, a electric range is 2000 watts, a well pump is 2200 watts, and an electric water heater is 5000 watts.

My breakout is somewhat different than yours. My A/C is 52%, my electric water heater is 21%, and my two refrigerators are 19%.
---Mark_Eaton on 2/2/17


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the globe is nevertheless being deforested at an alarming rate
---StrongAxe on 2/1/17

Are you a conspiracy-theorist?

Wow, you seem to be afraid of everything.

You know, its funny. I am a product of the Midwest, and we are people of the land. My family has guns, hunts, logs, traps, farms, and plays outdoors.

I know my home area in the world is changing, but it has more forest now than it did 100 years ago. As I have posted on this site, my family has been on the same acreage since the 1840s and we know what our area and the surrounding county looks like.

More, not less.

But you may not want to listen to that.
---Mark_Eaton on 2/2/17


Mark_Eaton:

It doesn't matter how fossil fuels are stored in the crust, or how fast they replenish (or ever). If we extract them faster than they are put back - they WILL eventually run out. The same dynamic is much more visible, and occurs much more rapidly with wood. Despite how fast forests grow (and we can watch them grow during our own lifetimes), the globe is nevertheless being deforested at an alarming rate, and unless care is taken to replace what is harvested, it too will run out.
---StrongAxe on 2/1/17


The earth's mantle is NOT producing fossil fuels.
---Jerry6593 on 2/1/17

Are you familiar the theory of abiogenic petroleum origin? And Thomas Gold's specific theory?

Gold speculated that "that fossil fuels were trapped inside the core of the Earth in randomized molecular form billion of years ago. Over time, the extreme heat of the core "sweated" the rocks that contained these molecules, pushing them up through the porous layers of the Earth. The migrating fossil fuels then collected, becoming trapped in deep underground reservoirs."
---Mark_Eaton on 2/1/17


//Nobody does. My comment was a sarcastic comment about how much evidence you require to accept facts that contradict your own opinions, vs. how much you require for ones that agree with them.//

All I wanted was a citation from an article.

Usually that's when one doesn't make it a fact.

//You are a nurse and we both know that our words alone isn't enough.- med

Then you buy a plane ticket and talk to them, if that's what it takes to convince you.//


That was directed to NurseRobert not you.

He is aware of the golden rule of charting and statements

//I am not sufficiently invested in this discussion to require THAT degree of verifiability,..--StrongAxe


I totally understand
---Nicole_Lacey on 2/1/17


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Mike: Hydrogen fuel is great, providing energy while delivering pure water as a byproduct. The production of hydrogen (likely by fossil fuels), however, uses more energy to produce by hydrolysis than it gives back.

I agree that Tesla was a genius (albeit a bit wacky), but many of the "free energy" offers you see are hoaxes.


Mark E: The earth's mantle is NOT producing fossil fuels. Those were ALL laid down in Noah's flood.


WeakHatchet: Stop the personal attacks and say something ON TOPIC!


---Jerry6593 on 2/1/17


The inventor, Tesla, made a few enemies because he wanted to give free energy to the world. One of those he offended was J.P.Morgan. Another he upset was Thomas Edison. We owe our best ideas to Tesla. But interests have suppressed the offer of free energy and many of Tesla's finest works.
---mike4879 on 1/31/17


Nicole_Lacey:

You wrote: Yes, if that's all you have.

Nobody does. My comment was a sarcastic comment about how much evidence you require to accept facts that contradict your own opinions, vs. how much you require for ones that agree with them.

You are a nurse and we both know that our words alone isn't enough.

Then you buy a plane ticket and talk to them, if that's what it takes to convince you. I am not sufficiently invested in this discussion to require THAT degree of verifiability, especially on these blogs that prevent detailed discussions by artificially constraining lengths of posts, number of posts in a given time, number of posts in total, and forbids linking to corroborative sites.
---StrongAxe on 1/31/17


//Must I show you notarized copies of stock transfers??--StrongAxe

Yes, if that's all you have.

//I gave you my sources, go back and read them.//

You are a nurse and we both know that our words alone isn't enough.

You know the phrase: "IF YOU DIDN'T CHARTED IT NEVER HAPPENED"

You cited ONE Source about good morning.

You had plenty of words to repost a so-called source that you claim you gave. You didn't post it because you never gave any.

At least StrongAxe gives sources, or states why he couldn't give one.

StrongAxe, you are not as well.

//Seems to me you are chosing to ignore things placed in front of you.---NurseRobert

Help my eye sight and repost it NEXT!
---Nicole_Lacey on 1/31/17


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Nicole_Lacey,I gave you my sources, go back and read them. I don't believe the sky is falling, but I do believe we are screwing up our planet.

Seems to me you are chosing to ignore things placed in front of you.
---NurseRobert on 1/31/17


For short distances, it is environmentally more friendly than manufacturing and transporting a new car
---mike4879 on 1/31/17

I remember reading in my fathers copy of Mother Earth News in the 1970s about the car they developed that ran 80 mpg. Read that again, 1970s and 80 mpg.

Where is this technology? Why hasn't Tesla developed it with the $4.9 billion they have received from our gov't?

I think if someone really wanted to, they could develop a non-hybrid car that went 100 mpg. Easy.

But we do not for a few reasons. First, tree-huggers want us off oil. Second, oil people want us to consume more oil, not less. Third, there is no market reason with gas at $2 per gallon.

But just wait.
---Mark_Eaton on 1/31/17


Mark_Eaton:

Where did such a "scientific" theory come from? Has it been observed? Even if this DOES happen, it would happen much slower than we consume it - this is why oil and coal fields keep running out.

In my house, about 70% of the power is used by heat/AC, and about 20% by fridge. Everything else combined (TV, computers, microwave, light bulbs, etc.) use only a tiny fraction of the total power bill.

I didn't say TOTALLY abandon carbon-based fuels, but every little bit helps.


Nicole_Lacey:

Must I show you notarized copies of stock transfers??
---StrongAxe on 1/31/17


TRUTH is suppressed. On the subject of energy, hydrogen is the most abundant element in the universe and we can run cars by separating H2o in to its parts. You could use your own waste water. More over, every child has observed like poles repelling like poles with magnets. Such discoveries have powered cars and generators. They do not get marketed. TRUTH gets suppressed by threats, buy-outs, down-play, and death. Big money interests do not want you to have free energy or energy independence. We will see the direction of the future. For now, everything is conventional. Meanwhile, drive your old gas gozzler. For short distances, it is environmentally more friendly than manufacturing and transporting a new car.
---mike4879 on 1/31/17


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We must wean ourselves from unrenewable resources, because they WILL run out on our children.
---StrongAxe on 1/31/17

An unproven theory.

I actually choose to believe in the scientific theory that the Earth's mantle produces by-products which get stored in the crust. Such by-products are coal, oil, and natural gas.

While renewable sources of energy do exist, they do not exist with the quantities we need. I know several families who live "off the grid" and these people do not use consumer electronics. How can our economy thrive without electronics?

Name one power plant that is totally renewable that provides power to its consumers without supplementing from the grid or using carbon-based fuels.
---Mark_Eaton on 1/31/17


StrongAxe, Saying 'it never happened' doesn't mean I have to prove it never happened. It means you have to prove it happened or it end in evidence of NOT happening in the first place. Science.

And if the speech was good enough for Joe Biden it is good enough for the rest of us: The Biden Rule.

NurseRobert, just because you go around screaming the sky is falling the sky is falling it doesn't mean I want the sky to smack me on the head Because I don't believe the sky is falling.

It just means you need to Stop running around and look up to see the sky ISN'T FALLING.

As always I'm always waiting for Leftists to cite their sources.
Remember you called me a hypocrite? I gave you my sources now where are your SOURCES?
---Nicole_Lacey on 1/31/17


---Jerry6593 on 1/31/17

Ahh, Jerry, always the good Christian with the insults.

First, I was not talking about electric cars, I was talking about fracking. Maybe YOU like to drink contaminated water, me, not so much.

Second, I would love for you to quote your sources.

Third, we cant kill the planet. We can only kill ourselves.
---NurseRobert on 1/31/17


TRUTH is suppressed. On the subject of energy, hydrogen is the most abundant element in the universe and we can run cars by separating H2o in to its parts. You could use your own waste water. More over, every child has observed like poles repelling like poles with magnets. Such discoveries have powered cars and generators. They do not get marketed. TRUTH gets suppressed by threats, buy-outs, down-play, and death. Big money interests do not want you to have free energy or energy independence. We will see the direction of the future. For now, everything is conventional.
---mike4879 on 1/31/17


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Mark_Eaton:

That is black and white thinking. We must wean ourselves from unrenewable resources, because they WILL run out on our children.

Your city may not have effective public transit, but many others do.


Nicole_Lacey:

Google shows many sources. Look at top few. Blog limits prevent listing all.

it NEVER happened.

You admit he STILL owns those stocks!

There IS no "Biden rule". He gave a speech and JC chairman pledged to consider a nominee "if the President consults and cooperates with the Senate or moderates his selection absent consultation."
President cooperated in 2015. Senate didn't.


Jerry6593: Stop personal attacks and say something ON TOPIC!
---StrongAxe on 1/31/17


Luke: Good points. The Libtards will never "get over it". They're still blaming Bush for everything.


MarkA & Nurse: Where do you think the electricity comes from for electric cars? It comes from the electric power companies, the majority of which use fossil fuels to produce the electricity. The energy conversion efficiency is so low that you are creating much more CO2 by going electric than if you simply burned gasoline.

Then there's the ethanol fuel hoax that produces more CO2 in production than it makes from burning.

You libs are killing the planet!






---Jerry6593 on 1/31/17


Go ahead. I agree with Mark. You can have your dream car. Just do not use our taxes for said car.

Mega corporations became Mega because they produce items that the majority of the population requested.

That's how they stay in business if the majority of the population Wants electric cars trust me the Mega Corporation will make them by the megas

Did you know the Obama Administration forced several federal agencies to buy those electric car that the battery was blowing up just to keep the company afloat.

That's wrong. In fact the same agencies after throwing away money into this very expensive cars.

BTW they only lasted about 2 years. The Federal government should never intrfere in to private businesses.
---Nicole_Lacey on 1/30/17


Roads cost MUCH more to maintain than railroads.
---StrongAxe on 1/30/17

I love trains. They take me back to my childhood. But, I challenge you to get the right-of-way needed for any kind of railroad expansion in the US. People do not want trains in their back yards.

Stop spending my tax dollars to develop electronic cars. And stop putting the gov't emphasis on electric cars.

Are you 100% carbon-free? If not, you might be a hypocrite to complain about using fossil fuels.

Our buses are subsidized for lack of ridership. A study was conducted before our city purchased the buses and buying an automobile for everyone who would ride them was cheaper than operating the buses. Geesh!
---Mark_Eaton on 1/30/17


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Mark_Eaton:

How is using renewable energy "sending the economy into the tank"? The only people who will be sent into the tank are the mega-corporations that we rely on to supply us with non-renewable energy (e.g. coal, oil) who are threatened by competition. They take natural resources that belong to all of us, and then sell it back to us at a profit.

You have the freedom to drive a gas-guzzler. Please grant others the freedom to drive electric automobiles, and to harvest their own energy without paying megacorporations for the privilege.

Those "stinky buses" are stinky BECAUSE they burn oil. Electric buses aren't stinky. Make up your mind.

Roads cost MUCH more to maintain than railroads.
---StrongAxe on 1/30/17


When will we embrace better energy?
---mike4879 on 1/29/17

What better energy? Solar or wind? Are you kidding me? Talk about sending the economy into the tank!

Our country is founded on freedom. Freedom to go anywhere you want, live anywhere you want, visit anywhere you want.

I want the freedom to be able to drive a gasoline-fueled automobile.

Keep those electric and self-driving cars away from me. Keep those stinky buses away from me. Keep those commuter trains away from me. They all suck in my tax dollars and give out nothing.

How about recognizing the country we live in and fixing the roads?
---Mark_Eaton on 1/30/17


//look at Trumps 2016 federal disclosure forms.//

I work in the Federal government. "federal disclosure forms" does not exist.

What type of disclosure? Form number? Form title? All federal forms has a name and numbers.

//You insinuated that Buffet donated money to the Democrats in part because the pipeline would affect his profits..Talk about hypocrisy.---NurseRobert

YOU ARE RIGHT!

Search Warren Buffett and Keystone: *Motley Fool-Jeremy Bowman

*Warren Buffett and Keystone Decision -American Thinker

*Warren Buffet really likes OIL TRAINS despites the EXPLOSIONS--CNBC

*Did Buffett help Obama kill Keystone Pipeline to reap financial gain?-The Blaze

Can you return the favor?
---Nicole_Lacey on 1/30/17


I believe that our president has done more work then any other president we ever had in a weeks time. Of course the liberals will be crying and complaining. They are use to having a politician run for office, and they are all crooks. Now we have a person who never was a politician. He is smart, he is not in there to make money, he already has millions, but he will do what he promised he was going to do if elected.
All those liberals who thought they had it won, were so shocked that they will cry for over a year, and even then they will be complaining. Trump won, get over it.
---Luke on 1/30/17


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NurseRobert, I have to wonder if fracking is best for the environment also. Some of those chemicals you mentioned are life threatening. someone I loved acquired a terminal illness due to what is thought to be exposure to benzene.
---Chria9396 on 1/30/17


Best for the environment, decreasing cost and jobs for all.
---Nicole_Lacey

ScientificAmerican had an article in Sept 13 and April 16 about fracking contaminating ground water.

Scientific Daily had an article in Sept 14.

In 2016, the EPA (gasp!! left wing conspiracy!) put out its study on Fracking and water contamination.

If it is so safe, why don't companies tell us whats in the chemicals they use for fracking? Studies of the fluid show benzene, toluene, ethylbenzene and xylene, all of which are know to be dangerous to humans.

Something tells me fracking is FAR from "best for the environment"
---NurseRobert on 1/30/17


MarkA: Why haven't you moved back to your Utopian homeland, Canada?


---Jerry6593 on 1/30/17


All you have to do is look at Trumps 2016 federal disclosure forms. It show he owned between $15,000 and $50,000 in stock in Texas-based Energy Transfer Partners. (One of the owners of the pipeline) Thats down from between $500,000 and $1 million a year earlier.

Trump also owns between $100,000 and $250,000 in Phillips 66, which has a one-quarter share of Dakota Access.

Again, PROVE IT!
I am not saying he doesn't but Leftists love to give beliefs as facts
--Nicole_Lacey on 1/29/17


You insinuated that Buffet donated money to the Democrats in part because the pipeline would affect his profits. Of course YOU have proof of this, or are you just making assumptions?

Talk about hypocrisy.
---NurseRobert on 1/30/17


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Some people wonder about the death of the Supreme Court justice.
---mike4879 on 1/30/17


//Google:trump stock oil pipeline//

That's not how you cite a source.

//Trump claims he sold stock in June, but no way to verify that.//

Because it NEVER happened.

//Republicans were forcing Obama to have a Supreme Court without all its justices for a WHOLE YEAR, for no LEGITIMATE reason. Obstructonism works both ways.//

YES BABY, and guess who gave it a name? Biden

THE BIDEN RULE:

Remember 1992 with 41 Bush?

Democrats are a bunch of hippocrates

//Trump is making ruinous federal policy that is actually being implemented. Hillary is not.---StrongAxeon 1/29/17

You really need to read 'Cliniton Cash'
---Nicole_Lacey on 1/29/17


Fracking is also causing earthquakes and contaminating water and creating sinkholes. They do not just inject water into the ground to break rocks and force out oil. Toxic waste and toxic chemicals are injected into the ground to rid industries of waste. This is what we will give our children. In regards to environment, I might wish that the likes of Teddy Roosevelt were President again. He thought more of posterity in wishing to preserve for our world and for future generations. I am hopeful that Trump will be a good president. We will see.
---mike4879 on 1/29/17


Nicole_Lacey:

No. Fracking is the CHEAPEST - lowering cost to oil companies (who achieve higher profits) at expense of environment, in water purity and seismic stability.

Google: trump stock oil pipeline
Trump claims he sold stock in June, but no way to verify that.

Democrats are not uniformly against entire cabinet - jues OBJECTIVELY UNQUALIFIED ones (most of them) - Secretary with no public education experience and hates it, EPA chairman who hates EPA, etc.

Republicans were forcing Obama to have a Supreme Court without all its justices for a WHOLE YEAR, for no LEGITIMATE reason. Obstructonism works both ways.

Trump is making ruinous federal policy that is actually being implemented. Hillary is not.
---StrongAxe on 1/29/17


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//regarding oil from fracking, there have been a number of environmental mishaps involving trains carrying the volital, less stable product. When will we embrace better energy?---mike4879on 1/29/17

Fracking is the BEST oil producing we have today.

Best for the environment, decreasing cost and jobs for all.
---Nicole_Lacey on 1/29/17


//Trump owns stock in the company building the pipeline.//

Again, PROVE IT!
I am not saying he doesn't but Leftists love to give beliefs as facts

//he banned middle-east immigratno, all the countries where he has business interests are conspicuously exempt.//

Or he ONLY USED the Countries CITED by the Obama Administration.

Remember Democrats are forcing Trump to run the Country without 90% of his Cabinet.

So your beef is with the Obama Administration sections of Countries not Trump.

//It WILL come back to bit him in the end, but not before doing significant damage to country in the process.---StrongAxe

We are talking about Trump not Secretary Hillary.

And it did BITE her at the end!
---Nicole_Lacey on 1/29/17


Nicole Lacey,

YES, regarding oil from fracking, there have been a number of environmental mishaps involving trains carrying the volital, less stable product. When will we embrace better energy?
---mike4879 on 1/29/17


Nicole_Lacey:

You wrote: Always follow the money.

Agreed. Trump owns stock in the company building the pipeline.

Also, when he banned middle-east immigratno, all the countries where he has business interests are conspicuously exempt.

The constitution's emoluments clause specifically forbids the president from accepting gifts from foreign governments or having financial interests in businesses his decisions he could affect. This is to ensure that a president's decisions are impartial. Trump has been warned of this repeatedly, but thinks he's above the constitution, and keeps making partial decisions. It WILL come back to bit him in the end, but not before doing significant damage to country in the process.
---StrongAxe on 1/29/17


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Hallelujah! It is so refreshing to have a REAL American in charge again. He has done more good in one week than B.O. did in 8 years. I was originally concerned about him, but I couldn't be more pleased with his actions in office - especially the way he's chopping the Washington Bureaucracy and his handling of the liberal news media.

Oh the sweet sound of the whining liberals as they are confronted with reality!



---Jerry6593 on 1/29/17


//favoring BIG OIL INTERESTS..and pass an environmentally risky pipeline UNDER THE MISSOURI RIVER//

Always follow the money. Did to know the real reason Obama didn't allow the pipes?

Warren Buffett owns trains that transports oil. Buffett is a huge Democrat Donor.

The pipe lines would cut into Buffett's profits.

The pipe lines are much SAFER than risking accidents of train and trucks carrying the oils

//TRUMP is already showing favor to oil/powerful over the environment.//

Or for the poor old lady who needs cheap oil to warn her house.

//But he will gain more support from others with power.--mike4879on 1/28/17

The common man with voting power! Only he is happy with cheaper gas prices
---Nicole_Lacey on 1/28/17


ALREADY he is stirring coals in North Dakota favoring BIG OIL INTERESTS in a desire to pass oil through Indian lands (another nation) (the DAKOTA NATION) - any way, sovereign tribal land and pass an environmentally risky pipeline UNDER THE MISSOURI RIVER with out the permission of the Native American inhabitants. This project is both foolish and unwise. TRUMP is already showing favor to oil and favor to the powerful over the environment. That is cause for concern. I think he will lose some support. But he will gain more support from others with power.
---mike4879 on 1/28/17


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