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How will the Christian World stop doing the horrible wicked deeds described in 2 TIMOTHY 3:1-5? Let us put it in paper for the Christian World to come out from the Kingdom of Satan and live just like Christ Jesus. God Bless!

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Trav, sometimes your answers are mind boggling. Hebrews also reiterates the fulfilling of the promises to the House of Judah and house of Israel. Ezekiel 36 my friend has not yet been fulfilled in its entirety....THE WHOLE CHAPTER. Oh maybe you pick out a verse, but I'm referring to the WHOLE CHAPTER. Which also includes Isaiah 14... Not yet fulfilled.

Your doctrine has always been questionable Trav. The Two House Theory etc. That salvation is ONLY to Israel......we know is false doctrine.

And you say YOU can prove you come from one of these tribes? And you KNOW the exact Tribe? That salvation is strictly to certain bloodlines? Too funny.
---kathr4453 on 4/5/17


Trav, yes one day those promises to the NATION Israel , both houses, we also see reiterated in Romans 11 will be fulfilled. ...
---kathr4453 on 2/10/17

You defend/teach/preach this false doctrine theory of yours to the point of arguing with Christ, and all the Prophets and Apostles Who is brave enough to do this? Not I.
Me thinks it something else that makes you go against these. Very close to your self proclaimed "jewish" heart.

Jer_23:1 Woe be unto the pastors that destroy and scatter the sheep of my pasture! saith the LORD.
---Trav on 4/4/17


Yes, John the Baptist used to be my favorite Bible character living in the wilderness and eating locusts and wild honey. Paul too is a favorite. But who likes experiencing the harsh?
---mike4879 on 2/12/17


I've always seen worshipers show through their writing how much they love PAUL, but JESUS is the only hero and Paul is no substitute for Jesus.

Of course you will SAY that you love Jesus MORE THAN Paul, but JESUS has no equal.

So, decide today who your savior is.

Do not imitate Paul or any apostles, clergy, or MAN in any form/capacity (nor the children of hell JEWS).

Mat 23:15
---faithforfaith on 2/10/17

So faithforfaith. The words above Matther 23:15 are not scripture, they are your words. That is very dishonest. I'm sorry to inform you, but Jesus never use the term HELL JEWS, you did. And we know many preachers today are responsible for making HELL GENTILES.
---kathr4453 on 2/11/17


Aservant, To warn of the wrath that is to come.

I realize that is not what Calvinists believe if that is what you are. A legalistic Pharisee Calvinist who tells folks that if they are sick they need to repent of that sin so Gods curse can be lifted from them.... Are you saying this only applies to wicked Christians? So actually you do not believe your sins were forgiven. You do not believe in the finished works of Christ....OR are you saying this applies to the unsaved only? So is that not warning the wicked?

Is not your 2 Chronicles also WARNING THE WICKED?

Do you hear yourself Aservant? You contradict yourself all in one blog.

Good grief.....
---kathr4453 on 2/10/17




So a servant, you think you are to warn the wicked so the Land can be healed. Please tell us WHAT LAND? America, China, Russa, ...what land exactly? You actually believe that Christians are responsible for unhealed land? Where in the NT is that taught?

The blessings and cursings given to ISRAEL for how well they kept the LAW of Moses determined the health not only of the land but the people. The LAND that God gave Israel....you know, the promised land. There is only ONE promise land. OUR land is in heaven and needs NO HEALING.

We are under GRACE Aservant. Maybe you aren't but that is your choice to insult the Spirit of Grace....Hebrews 10.
We just are not of the same faith Aservant. Don't take it personal.
---kathr4453 on 2/10/17


Aservant, You use OT 2 Chronicles 7 to warn the wicked. You also quote all OT even from Ezekiel....but somehow chose to ignore this? On who's authority? Yours? Because it contradicts your Calvin beliefs? Yep. I get it.

Ezekiel 3:18 When I say unto the wicked, Thou shalt surely die, and thou givest him not warning, nor speakest to warn the wicked from his wicked way, to save his life, the same wicked man shall die in his iniquity, but his blood will I require at thine hand.

Ezekiel 3:19 Yet if thou warn the wicked, and he turn not from his wickedness, nor from his wicked way, he shall die in his iniquity, but thou hast delivered thy soul.

Ezekiel 33:8 and Ezekiel 33:9
---kathr4453 on 2/10/17


Paul WARNED about false teachers and Preditors coming into the church. BEWARE PEOPLE OF FALSE TEACHERS WHO KNOW NOT THE GRACE OF OUR LORD JESUS CHRIST.

Acts 20: 29 For I know this, that after my departing shall grievous wolves enter in among you, not sparing the flock. 30 Also of your own selves shall men arise, speaking perverse things, to draw away disciples after them. 31 Therefore watch, and remember, that by the space of three years I ceased not to warn every one night and day with tears.

Thank you Paul. I am so sorry these hate mongers murdered you for your love and preaching and warning us. No one stood with you in the end either.... I guess some would think that is a sign of shame, but was it? I say NO WAY!
---kathr4453 on 2/10/17


Here's the problem with your answer Aservant. Earthly Israel, yes they were/are Gods people, but in the OT under the Law of Moses, the nation as a whole was not saved. Certainly individuals who had faith were saved. But to compare the Nation Israel to the Body of Christ, where all absolutely are saved, because no one can be baptized into Christ unless they are saved, is a whole different matter.

The Body of Christ are those Baptized into Christ and raised a New Creature...ARE NOT EVIL or wicked. And to pronounce that on the BOC is blasphemy. Heaven is OUR HOME Aservant. If you don't KNOW that, you are a false teacher NOT called by God.
---kathr4453 on 2/11/17


My STATEMENT was not a "COMMENT" and was not not criticizing anything.

In that verse, JESUS called the pharisees children of hell (you very conveniently avoided that verse and labelled what I wrote as "racist" in order to get on my case....why do you want to do that?).

Of course the truth is unpopular, but don't look for ways to attack me.

I "piped" to you,....and this is how you react? (very common).
---faithforfaith on 2/11/17




Our job is to WARN the wicked, that the Wrath of God is coming, and to repent.

Not True. Our Job is, Mt 28:19-20, Mk 16:15, Lk 24:47

The Body of Christ is not wicked.

We have NO LAND.---kathr4453 on 2/9/17


2Ch 7:14 If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from THEIR wicked ways, THEN will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal THEIR land.

You consistently don't seem to know the Bible, yet you stubbornly keep trying to teach.

Just more BASIC things that YOU do not know, "instructor".
---aservant on 2/10/17


Faithforhim, I take offense with your comment "hell JEWS. ". Why specifically single out Jews? Sounds anti-Semitic to me singling out JEW sinners being worse than ITALIAN sinners, or GREEK SINNERS.

Please explain your racest comment here. A sinner is a sinner...Period? I don't mind telling you THAT comment was disgusting. And I could care less if Mark_Eaton, John, Aservant MarkV, Luke or whoever calles me names or accuses me of being hateful because I called you out. If you want to curse me and add your self to that list...so be it.

That comment was HATE SPEECH. And there is no way any Jewish person will EVER hear the Love of God through you where the Love of God is not in you.
---kathr4453 on 2/10/17


I've always seen worshipers show through their writing how much they love PAUL, but JESUS is the only hero and Paul is no substitute for Jesus.

Of course you will SAY that you love Jesus MORE THAN Paul, but JESUS has no equal.

So, decide today who your savior is.

Do not imitate Paul or any apostles, clergy, or MAN in any form/capacity (nor the children of hell JEWS).

Mat 23:15 you make him twice as much a child of hell as yourselves.
2Co 11:2 I betrothed you to Christ to present you as a pure bride to her one husband.

Mat 11:17 'We piped to you,

Luk 7:32 'We piped to you, and you did not dance, we wailed, and you did not weep.'

WE do not have only ONE "husband".
---faithforfaith on 2/10/17


I believe there is this great misunderstanding that when the Church began to be formed, both Jew and Gentile, that Gods promises to the NATION OF ISRAEL, as we see in Ezekiel 36, Isaiah 14, Zechariah 12-14 were done away with. Not only were they NOT done away with, but they were not given to the Church either. God cannot break His promises ever. THST is what the sovereignty of God is.
Trav, yes one day those promises to the NATION Israel , both houses, we also see reiterated in Romans 11 will be fulfilled. But right now, God is building His Church, both Jew and Gentile, the BOC, not a NATION with land. The Church will reign and rule with Christ WHEN those final promises are fulfilled to the NATION Israel.
---kathr4453 on 2/10/17


Paul said, be followers of me THE WAY I FOLLOW CHRIST. Paul did follow Jesus through death and resurrection life, and has shared with us this truth. Philippians 3 is this very testimony of following after. This is what the life of GRACE is after the cross. It is to both Jew and Gentile. The Church is under the Abrahamic Covenant, clearly stated in Galatians. The promise of the spirit was fortold to Abraham even before the Mosaec Covenant.

Hebrews was written to the Jews, but in no way is excluding Gentiles. And we see in. Ezekiel 36 that the New Covenant promises to Israel include being brought back to the Land, and those promises to the NATION ISRAEL during the 1000 year reign.
---kathr4453 on 2/10/17


Why should we follow the pattern the Lord provided through the apostle Paul?...
---michael_e on 2/9/17

He sent twelve other Apostles first. Most turn Paul into "another Gospel" in error.
Paul is careful to reference what we'd call the Old Testament over 250+ times. Better to foundation first with the Prophets, who Christ fulfilled and the Apostles, handpicked and present with Christ.
Paul speaks to both houses, unless you know who he is speaking too, either Judah/Benjamin or the other 10 nations/ethnos of Israel,there is confusion.
Mat_10:5 These twelve Jesus sent forth, commanded them, saying, Go not into the way of the Gentiles, into any city of the Samaritans enter ye not:
---Trav on 2/9/17


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Why should we follow the pattern the Lord provided through the apostle Paul?
The Lord Jesus Christ sent Paul (Acts 9:15).
God commanded it (1 Tim 1:1, 1 Tim 1:16).
God made him your apostle (Rom 11:13).
God gave him the gospel of the uncircumcision (Gal 2:7-8).
If you are saved, it is by his gospel of Christ (Rom 16:25, 1 Cor 15:1-4).
Peter gave Paul exclusive rights of ministry to the uncircumcised (Gal 2:9).
Peter deferred to Paul in matters of what the Lord was doing now (2 Pet 3:15).
Paul instructs it (1 Cor 11:1, Phil 3:17).
---michael_e on 2/9/17


How will the Christian World stop doing the horrible wicked deeds described in 2 TIMOTHY 3:1-5? ---Lan on 2/2/

Lan, the world is not Christian. There are Christians in the world, but not of this world. 2Timothy is warning Christians that in the last days things are going to get worse and worse. There are no scriptures that the Church is responsible for making the world better. Our job is to WARN the wicked, that the Wrath of God is coming, and to repent. Christians have been saved from the wrath that is to come.

God does not hold Christians accountable for the behavior and sin of the wicked.
---kathr4453 on 2/9/17


The Body of Christ is not wicked. When people use that verse they do not realize what they are saying. We have NO LAND. We are crucified to the world and the world to us. We are strangers and pilgrims in this world. Ambassadors for Christ. Ambassadors are those who represent another country. We represent Christ, not America, China, Canada etc.

That verse belongs to OT Israel. The LAND that God gave Israel is what is in view here. Those promises do,not carry over to the church OR to Gentile nations.
---kathr4453 on 2/8/17


How will the Christian World stop doing the horrible wicked deeds described in 2 TIMOTHY 3:1-5? ---Lan on 2/2/17

We can't.

The word "shall" is used 6 times in this Chapter. Timothy can't know the future, but by the Holy Spirit - 1Cor 12:7-10.

God is prophesying the future, which is happening now. God might delay these things if enough of His people obey Him.

2Ch 7:14 If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from THEIR wicked ways, THEN will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.
---aservant on 2/8/17


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To follow Jesus is to follow Him through powers and principalities of this world UP, pressing on. This is what it means to be an overcomer. We overcome the evil one. This comes ONLY BY being crucified with Christ and raised UP TOGETHER WITH HIM. This is also why we go through testings and trials, AKA: the fellowship of His sufferings, and the POWER OF HIS RESURRECTION.

When we hear those who know what it is to be VICTORIOUS, many scoff. However, this IS what victorious means. This is what being an overcomer means. This is what the height, breadth, depth and width means...and what Ephesians 3:14-21 means.

Press on and you will KNOW what it means. KNOW as In Reality, not head knowledge.
---kathr4453 on 2/7/17


Many think they are following Jesus when the Bible says he is seated in heavenly places (Eph 1:20).
In biblical times, people literally followed him across Israel. Today, people follow him sitting in pews. Seated in heavenly places, the Lord isn't going anywhere at the moment, and neither are those who claim The Lords apostle to gentiles instructs us to follow him as he is of Christ.to be following him. (1 Cor 11:1)
He recorded his instructions and there are faithful men that follow after his God-given pattern (2 Tim 2:2, 2 Tim 3:16). The Bible contains Gods instructions. The Bible rightly divided contains Gods instructions for us.
---michael_e on 2/7/17


faithforfaith wrote: " You aren't supposed to FOLLOW Jesus, you are supposed to be a MEMBER of Him (His body).

Jesus frequently offered a simple invitation: Follow me. Here are four:

Matthew 9:9
Luke 9:61
John 12:26
John 13:36
---Steveng on 2/7/17


You aren't supposed to FOLLOW Jesus, you are supposed to be a MEMBER of Him (His body).

Act 19:9 but when some were stubborn and disbelieved, speaking evil of the Way before the congregation, he withdrew from them, taking the disciples with him, and argued daily in the hall of Tyran'nus.

Act 19:23 About that time there arose no little stir concerning the Way.
Act 24:14 But this I admit to you, that according to the Way, which they call a sect, I worship the God of our fathers, believing everything laid down by the law or written in the prophets.
Act 24:22 But Felix, having a rather accurate knowledge of the Way,

I am the WAY John 14:6
---faithforfaith on 2/7/17


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How to follow Jesus?

Show love (as in the verb form) from the bottom of your individual heart. The bible is full examples of showing love to God and fellow man.
---Steveng on 2/5/17


"How will the Christian World stop doing the horrible wicked deeds described in 2 TIMOTHY 3:1-5?" By submitting to the empowerment of His Christ, acquiescently. We don't do, or not do anything in the Father's kingdom by our own strength, might, or force of will. It's through His Spirit that we yield to Him, who works in us both to will, and to do, that which is pleasing in His sight.
---joseph on 2/3/17


Not much hope, is there? It is already in paper. The Bible is the paper. It is to be just as 2 Timothy 3:1-5 says. You can not stop this. But you can work on yourself.
---mike4879 on 2/3/17


Does this include walking on water, turning water into wine, and materializing bread and fish?

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 2/2/17


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