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Where Is Elijah And Enoch

For those who believe that no man is in heaven, where are Elijah and Enoch?

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God buried Moses in a valley in the land of Moab, opposite Beth-peor, but to this day no one knows where his grave is. Moses was 120 years old when he died, but his eyesight hadnt failed and his strength hadnt diminished. Deuteronomy 34

If Moses, Enoch and Elijah are in heaven why not all the other godly people?

There are two resurrections: the first when Jesus returns when the dead in Christ shall rise and the living shall be caught up with the dead.

The second at the end of the thousand year reign of Christ when ALL THE OTHER DEAD shall rise and be judged from the book of life according to what they did on earth.
---Steveng on 3/23/17


Mary said to Jesus saying "I will see him [her brother] at the resurrection." Jesus left for heaven, while Mary was still on Earth. No one is in heaven yet as Jesus will prepare a place for christians.

Jesus will come again in great glory, with the sound of trumpets. The dead in Christ shall rise first and the living shall be caught up with the dead. This is the first resurrection.

The second resurrection is at the end of the thousand year reign of Christ when all the other dead shall rise and be judged from the book of life according to their works.

Blessed are those that rise in the first resurrection.
---Steveng on 3/14/17


Luke 8:55 - And the spirit came again, and she rose straight away: and commanded to give her meat,

Genesis 35:18 - And it came to pass , as her soul was departing { for she died} that she called the name Ben -oni But his father calls Benjamin.

2 Corinthians 5,8 - We are confident , I say , and willing rather to be absent from the body, and present with the Lord

Present : Being, Existing or occurring in a place,

Now in 2 corinthians It says absent from the body, On earth man has a body of flesh, When man raise he has a spiritual body, Is not 2 Corinthians saying no body at all ? Hence man is two things, Spirit the man, Body - vessel ,
---RichardC on 3/14/17


Moses was resurrected.

Enoch and Elijah were translated without seeing death.

All three are in heaven with Christ.


---Jerry6593 on 3/14/17


Strongaxe yes, up until the time Jesus ascended no man had ascended to Heaven. "so it cannot speak to what happened or will happen afterwards." The fact that David hasn't speaks to that. If any man, other than Jesus was in Heaven it would be a man after "Gods own heart". Man will be raised and will spend the millennia on earth. Rev 20:6>Rev 5:10 I believe that the only Heaven that any of us will see is Heaven here on earth when the Father in His fullness dwells with man for the eternity. Rev 21:1-3
---joseph on 3/12/17




joseph:

The chronology of John 3:13 took place before Jesus ascended, so it cannot speak to what happened or will happen afterwards. If John 3:13 were perpetually true, then either Jesus did not ascend to heaven, or Jesus was not a man. Which of these two things do you believe? Furthermore it also means that none of us would ever go to heaven either. Do you believe that too? Somehow, I don't think so.
---StrongAxe on 3/12/17


Elijah and Enoch are dead.

Jesus said no one has gone to heaven. If this wasn't true he wouldn't have said this.

The phrases translated or taken away come from the Greek word metatithemi, which means to transfer to another place.

The bible states: that all the days of Enoch were three hundred and sixty-five years. Enoch is dead and buried and waiting for the resurrection.

Elijah did not die at that time he went up by a whirlwind into heaven. Which heaven, there are three heavens mentioned in the bible. Proof that Elijah was not dead and still on earth was when he wrote a letter many years later. See 2 Chronicles 21:12-15.
---Steveng on 3/11/17


Matthew 17:1 - And after six days Jesus taketh Peter, James and John his brother , and bringeth them up unto an high mountain apart.
Matthew 17:2 - And was transfigured before them: and did his face did shine as the sun, and his raiment was white as the light,
Matthew 17:3 - And Behold there appeared unto them Moses and Elias talking with them,
---RichardC on 3/12/17


Wherever God put them.

I know they did not suffer physical death. I don't think it's likely they are living in the World to Come while still in their unresurrected bodies--but I cannot say anything about these two for sure.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 3/9/17


It is written that no man has ascended to Heaven. John 3:13 Not even David, a man after God's heart, is said to be in Heaven, even after Jesus ascended. Acts 2:34 So I do have biblical reasons for believing that no man is 'living' in Heaven. Concerning Elijah and Enoch, I know that they are mortal, since I know that they are destined to die, and logically, no moral has been walking around in Heaven for the last two thousand years. According to Rev 4:11 they await their assignment, and they can only be existing, or "standing by the LORD" (per Zec 4:14) in a state of stasis, or suspended animation initiated by the LORD. Can I prove this? No. However it remains my belief:o)
---joseph on 3/9/17




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