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AXE. like I said earlier, Russian KGB Communist defector, Yuri Bezmanov, warned that the West was stuck with "brainwashed useful idiots" for the Left, and there's little that can be done to rescue people like you.

The fact that you deny the obvious facts about Trump's mannerisms when criticizing his detractors, only confirms what that Russian KGB Communist defector said.

The other reality that you seem to deny is how the Left dominate the (Fake News) media, universities, institutions, etc, not only in US but also Aust, Canada, Europe, politics, etc and that is how the oppressive tyranny of PC is maintained.

BTW, I've yet to see you adapt your thinking when confronted with truth.
---Haz27 on 5/26/17


NurseRob. I suggest you step out of the Leftist echo chamber, and instead seek God for spiritual understanding of His truth.

Your posts suggests your life revolves around the Left's Fake News, instead of God's word.

Have you honestly not seen the many videos of Trump's speeches where he uses those same gestures? Clearly its his mannerisms when he uses it that often. Or is it that you just deny facts simply because your Leftist puppet masters tell you to?

Instead of being a brainwashed muppet for your Leftist masters, I suggest you study God's word as so far you have shown that you seem to be in the group Jesus described as seeing they see not, and hearing they hear not, neither do they understand Matt 13:13.
---Haz27 on 5/26/17


Haz27:

I have been a conservative for most of my life, but I was literally forced out of that mindset by George W. Bush. It seemed like every single time he opened his mouth, he put his foot into it, far enough to chew his kneecaps.

If Trump shook violently like that frequently, it might be seen as a personal trait. But he ONLY did it ONCE - when speaking about THAT reporter. How much plainer could that be? It was DELIBERATE mockery. Show when he has done it at other times.

I find that when confronted with the truth its better to accept it and adapt your views.

I have done that on these blogs several times, but I have yet to see you do it even once.
---StrongAxe on 5/26/17


"his personal trait of expression. Its been seen in many of his speeches.
---Haz27 on 5/26/17

Have you ever worked with someone with CP? The way Trump was speaking, the way he held his hands and they way he was moving was certainly imitating someone with CP Unless his personal trait includes CP, he was mocking the journalist.

Maybe it goes along with "You can do anything ... Grab them by the P****."
---NurseRobert on 5/26/17


AXE. Like I said to you before, you really need to step out of that Leftist echo chamber.

The truth that exposes the Left's Fake News lie is that the mannerism of shaking hands Trump does, is his personal trait of expression. Its been seen in many of his speeches. Hence the reality is that it obviously had nothing to do with a journalist's disability considering he uses those same gestures when speaking about others without any disability.

Simply, you've been conned by the deceitful Leftist Fake News.

KATHR. I suggest you settle down. Your last post was just an angry rant because of the truth you were confronted with. I find that when confronted with the truth its better to accept it and adapt your views.
---Haz27 on 5/26/17




Reuben,

I'm still waiting for my friend.

What word would the Lord Jesus have used??
---john9346 on 5/26/17


Haz27:

You wrote: I don't trust the Left's Fake News media as I've seen far too often how they lie and distort. Consider their disgusting lie about Trump supposedly mocking a disabled journalist. Australia's Leftist Fake News media is just as evil.

How is actual video footage of Trump shaking spasmodically and ridiculing a journalist with cerebral palsy FAKE news? Trump fans can see prima facie evidence of his deplorable acts and STILL deny them.

Jesus rightly spoke similarly of the blindness of the Pharisees - they would deny the truth even if they actually saw someone raised from the dead.
---StrongAxe on 5/26/17


Haz27, It looks like a " Dairy Queen Truck on its way to refresh those coming out of the NATO Meeting". I guess no one ever taught Trump manners. Pushing people aside to run to the front, and then putting on his..."look at my face and bite me look" is all I care to see for a while. So embarrassing.

Oh Australia is/was a British Colony, and second wave was a ship of English prisoners. Our country was not established as a British penal colony...it WAS founded on immigration from ALL OVER the world. And EVERYONE has something special to bring from their own culture. Russians brought Wheat, Spanish brought cattle, horses etc, and so on. That's who WE are.
---kathr4453 on 5/26/17


Kathr. I don't trust the Left's Fake News media as I've seen far too often how they lie and distort. Consider their disgusting lie about Trump supposedly mocking a disabled journalist. Australia's Leftist Fake News media is just as evil.

Whilst I remain unsure whether Trump is really on the same team as BO/Clintons/Globalists, etc, I think the wall and any efforts to stop the destructive/divisive multiculturalism, mass immigration, Leftist identity politics (Leftist scientist Robert Putnam reluctantly had to admit after exhaustive research that such diversity is bad for society), is necessary.
Sadly, I doubt this deliberately harmful social engineering will be stopped.
---Haz27 on 5/25/17


reuben states, "4. If Jesus were demanding us to eat His flesh in a symbolic sense, He would be saying "He who reviles or assaults me has eternal life."

Sir, did the disciple see this as literal?

Let see, vs 68-69, "If one pay close attention Peter understood exactly what the Lord Jesus Christ was saying from vs 35-63, "68 Then Simon Peter answered him, Lord, to whom shall we go? thou hast the words of eternal life." 69 "And we believe and are sure that thou art that Christ, the Son of the living God."

If literal, Peter would have bitten the Lord Jesus and the Lord would have permitted it... It would have been an "Act of Worship."

---john9346 on 5/25/17




strongaxe states, "Obama and Clinton lied occasionally."

Sir, what's occasionally 1, 2, 3, 4, a lie is a lie isn't it?

This is "Logically Inconsistent."

So if Party A murders occasionally and party B murders 3 times why would you give party A a pass when they both have committed the same crime.

This is "Illogical and Irrational." Conclusion.
---john9346 on 5/25/17


Spiritually discerned, leaven, sin, etc. are concepts that do not define WHAT they are (i.e. "sin is bad" in no way defines WHAT is actually sinful).
---john9346 on 5/25/17


Haz27, just to reiterate....murder takes on many forms. It's hard for me to get emotional over abortion when our new health care will seal many death certificates....all so we can build bigger bombs to MURDER and build the wall to make President Bannons dreams (delusions) a reality. I just can't get all that excited about the new Republican Reality.

Oh did you see Trump at NATO make a first class boorish bull out of himself, pushing other away so HE could grab front and center stage on camera. Sickening. But sounds like your kinda guy. He is such an embarrassment to America. The Bible says.....PRIDE COMES BEFORE A FALL. Brace yourselves.
---kathr4453 on 5/25/17


Kathr. From what I can determine, Globalist elites, Leftists (within the likes of DEMs/REPs), Islamists, all use each other to further agendas.

Population decline in wealthy nations, but increase in 3rd world nations are reality. Many think WW3 will be used to reduce pop.

Throughout the West social engineering using destructive policies like multiculturalism, mass immigration, and also divisive identity politics, etc, is being enforced to destabilize society in preparation for new world order with advanced technology that will dramatically change society creating up to 50% unemployment. Matt 24:21 warns of this.
BTW, don't forget in USA 3000 babies per day are aborted/slaughtered. Please don't ignore the DEMs hand in this.
---Haz27 on 5/25/17


Haz27, the problems our nations face cannot be fixed by the Dems or Rep. The world is over populating. Globalization has taken jobs away from the poor and middle class because Capitolism wants to make products cheaper. Yes they have ALL THE WHILE TRASHING Third world countries who do not have environmental laws in place destroying their rivers, lakes etc. AND there are again those HORRIBLE working conditions just like the Triangle Shirtwaste Factory Fire tragedy in NY before our DEMS put rules into place. As far as I'm concerned......ITS ALL EVIL. Corporations are getting rich.....people( their today's slave labor work force) are not.

AGAIN READ THE BOOK OF JAMES. God IS watching this, and heads will roll.
---kathr4453 on 5/25/17


Reuben states, "If Jesus wanted a symbolic meaning to his teaching, he could had use another greek word but instead use a more graphic word trogo!"

And sir, what would that word be?

Can you tell us all here??
---john9346 on 5/23/17


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Reuben states, "If Jesus wanted a symbolic meaning to his teaching, he could had use another greek word but instead use a more graphic word trogo!"

And sir, what would that word be can you tell us all here??
---john9346 on 5/23/17


Kathr. Spending more than earnings leads to collapse & crime. Many say Sweden will be like Greece in 10 yrs.

Majority of politicians in Australia, Europe, etc, are Socialists, hence debt bubble. They selfishly want a growing, costly welfare sector as that means votes for Left.
Our PM is a Lefty in a so called conservative party who was not even interested in trying to defend free speech/thought against attacks by totalitarian Leftists. In fact it was he and leftist parties (with Leftist media approval) who tried to impose the degenerate LGBT agenda onto school children.

Our HS encourages private insurance, but the growing numbers of welfare recipients and abusers (the voters the Left encourages) is the problem.
---Haz27 on 5/23/17


Haz27,there are numerous kinds of socialism. Denmark vs Venezuela.....not the same outcome. Sweden vs. Venezuela....not the same.
Did Trump say Australia had the BEST healthcare ever? Was Trump SUCKING UP, OR is your socialized healthcare really THE BEST? Seems like a lot of hypocrisy going on here. That's my only point. I'm not a socialist, but I also understand we do need programs for the poor and unfortunate OR WE WILL HAVE MORE CRIME. We know in Jesus times people did take care of the poor. The poor will always be with is. I just HATE the idea of EXTERMIATING THE POOR. That seems to be what's coming next. Romania murdered children who had something as little as a deformed hand. FACT. IS THIS WHERE WERE HEADED?
---kathr4453 on 5/23/17


Also Haz, the debt around the world, and west is not about socialism, but globalization, trade imbalances, banks overextending credit, (our housing bubble was CRIMINAL) People and governments living beyond their means.....a GREED PROBLEM, created by CAPITALISM.
The average person does not live like DT with gold plated Walls.

But make a comment like that to a Neal Bortz talking head ..and they will cuss you out like nobody's business. So many people got rich off the 2008 crisis. And it wasn't the poor or middleclass.
---kathr4453 on 5/23/17


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Kathr. It's concerning you flippantly disregard the factual record of the Left's trademark mass murder, destruction of family, degeneracy, etc, and instead preach the Left's Fake News of doom if Trump's policy to make America great again succeeds.
If you want recent examples of how destructive Socialism is, consider Venezuela and districts governed by DEMs.

Western nations like Australia face mounting national debt thanks to Socialist Left's selfish drive for a growing base of welfare dependent voters.

Australia's debt threatens our international credit rating and the government cant do anything to fix this as there's so many Leftists in the Senate blocking attempts to stop the slide towards Venezuelan/Greece crisis.
---Haz27 on 5/23/17


So Haz....I wonder in the end how many millions of Americans will die under Trumps capitalism? Budgets are cut to schools 3.6 Trillian, to programs for the poor...etc.

Teachers on their low income spend their own money for their classrooms. Horrible.

Haz, look at history and the facts and STOP listening to ANY MEDIA PROPAGANDA. ...LEFT OR RIGHT. Get away from sitting on your %{{ in front of the tube, and get involved in REAL LIFE. Go volunteer at a homeless shelter. OH right....last I heard your country doesn't have HS's, because your solialistic government takes care of everyone.
---kathr4453 on 5/23/17


Let's consider the record of the heartless, totalitarian Left.

NAZI (SOCIALIST German Workers Party) 19 million killed.

USSR (Union of Soviet Socialist Republics) 60 million killed.

PRC (Chinese Communists) 50 million killed.

Cambodian Communists, 2 million killed

Vietnamese Communists, 1.6 million killed.

Polish Communists, 1.5 million killed.

Yugoslavian Socialists, 1.5 million killed.

North Korean Communists, 1,6 million killed.

And that's not even counting the multi millions of innocent aborted/murdered babies that the heartless Left (that would be the likes of the DEMs) endorsed the killing of.
---Haz27 on 5/22/17


Let's be realistic here. The Bible does not state whether capitalism is the best or socialism . When we look at Joseph who was taking into Egypt rose to power and was given authority over the coming drought preparing for 7 years of famine , what do we see happening..capitalism or socialism?

I see socialism. And because of that many lives were saved, including Israel. God blessed the whole process.

And not all Dems believe in abortion.

Let's be fair in our assessments.

We don't need another Triangle Shirtwaist Factory incident. We need RULES, and those who can oversee and enforce. Capitalism CAN BE so evil if left unchecked...as we see from our own past.
---kathr4453 on 5/22/17


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AXE. You really should read my posts properly. I was quoting Yuri Bezmanov, the Russian KGB Communist, who referred to people like you as brainwashed useful id**ts.

It's a well known phrase taken from Stalin, I think.

If you read my post again you'll see I referred to the likes of you as brainwashed people.

KATHR. Where do you get the idea I think any political party is infallible?..LOL

The DEMs are particularly evil. Take BO and the Clintons as an example.
Even in the REPS there are many with evil intentions.

We see the same in Australian political parties. The so called conservative party here, which controls government is headed up by a corrupt Leftist even.
---Haz27 on 5/22/17


Kathr. Re your false allegations about our media, here are the facts.
Australia is similar to US. Most our media is dominated by deceitful Leftists.

Our taxpayer funded ABC (similar to BBC in UK) is the biggest media. It's charter obligations are that it must remain impartial, and present balance of views.

Sadly the ABC is dominated by Leftist liars who fraudulently abuse their position, disregarding their obligations on impartiality and balance. I used to be a regular ABC viewer myself, until I became aware of the constant Leftist lies.

I suggest you read the book by Leftist Tammy Bruce titled, "The New Thought Police. The Left's assault on free speech and minds". It might open your eyes.
---Haz27 on 5/22/17


Strongaxe,

Let me remind you of what I said to you, "Sir, your actions, your statements in your responses are "Unequivocal." in that you believe the Democratic Party is "Infallible."

Sir, you hav a history when discussing politics of "Assuming Infallibility." towards the democrats.

If you truly read the postings, then they state over and over again your assumptions.

I do thank you for now stating that the Democrat Party isn't, "Infallible." hopefully in future postings you will condemn all parties for being wrong and hypocrites...
---john9346 on 5/22/17


Haz27, you must be especially brainwashed by your news media. Jimmy Carter, a BORN AGAIN CHRISTIAN, and who are you to question his faith, IS, WAS AND WILL ALWAY BE A DEMOCRAT.

Your idea of a democrat is not realistic. YOU believe republicans are infallible YET, they are LIARS, CHEATS, IMMORAL MARRIAGE BREAKERS, GREEDY.

there are a hand full of both Dems and Rep who ARE lovely Christian people. But there are creeps on both sides of the aisle.

As someone NOT from America.....you might need to keep your opinions to yourself.
---kathr4453 on 5/22/17


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Haz27:

Before you call anyone an idiot (whether you feign gentility by using ** in place of two letters or not), remember Matthew 5:22: ... but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire.

I say this for your benefit, not mine.

I am also neither totalitarian nor Communist. Remember also "Thou shalt not bear false witness".


john9346:

I know what I wrote, and I couldn't find a SINGLE quote in those blogs where I said Democrats were INFALLIBLE. I have never said that, because I don't believe it. Quote my EXACT words and show where (blog+date). I bet you can't find any. I couldn't. (The 3rd blog I could only find via Google search).
---StrongAxe on 5/22/17


John9346. Sadly, the likes of StrongAxe are "brainwashed useful id**ts" for the totalitarian Communist Left, as described by Russian KGB Communist defector Yuri Bezmanov.

Yuri warned that the West was stuck with these brainwashed people, and that there was little that can be done to undo their distorted world view.

Most importantly we should remember that in spite of the hate, bigotry, racism, sexism, violence/terrorism and lies, etc, from the Left, ultimately, we, as Christians, are really fighting the good fight of faith, keeping the commandment to believe on Jesus, without spot, blameless until our Lord Jesus Christ's appearing (1Tim 6:12-14).







---Haz27 on 5/22/17


strongaxe said, "No. Quote EXACT WORDS where I claim Democrats are **INFALLIBLE** (i.e. incapable of error) I have NEVER said that.

Sir, your actions, your statements in your responses are "Unequivocal." in that you believe the Democratic Party is "Infallible."

I'd invite you to read your own responses on the following blogs there are more but to start off these 3:


"Christians For Hillary Clinton."

"President Trump First Week."

"Upcoming 2016 Elections Blog."
---john9346 on 5/21/17


strongaxe:

"No. Vitriol (lessening chances) is wrong. Giving NO CHANCE WHATSOEVER is even more wrong. and when you spoke of the (Rep) you emphasize wrong

My point you cant called this behavior wrong sir..., but you emphasize wrong whenreferring to the (Rep) and not the (Dem)

"Policing INTERNATIONAL LAW is the Hague's problem, NOT America's. American military involvement frequently violates international law, but we don't care."

Sir, my point again why not just say Obama was wrong for interferance in Israel's Election instead of justifying a wrong...
---john9346 on 5/21/17


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strongaxe:

"Hillary sold uranium? Remember George W. Bush and yellow cake?"

And again why not just say what she did was wrong instead seeking to justify herbehavior.

Strongaxe my friend, God alone is "Infallible." not a "Political Party."
---john9346 on 5/21/17


john9346:

No. Quote EXACT WORDS where I claim Democrats are **INFALLIBLE** (i.e. incapable of error) I have NEVER said that.

No. Vitriol (lessening chances) is wrong. Giving NO CHANCE WHATSOEVER is even more wrong.

We should trust what James Clapper said over what FBI+CIA said AFTER he resigned?

Policing INTERNATIONAL LAW is the Hague's problem, NOT America's. American military involvement frequently violates international law, but we don't care.

Hillary sold uranium? Remember George W. Bush and yellow cake?

Again, legal deals with a country may be dubious, but unconstitutional ones are ACTUALLY illegal. Learn the difference.
---StrongAxe on 5/18/17


Reuben states, "My bad, but they both mean to eat, as you have mention,"

Yes, but there is a difference can you tell us all what is that difference?

Reuben ask, "John you sound like you study Greek, pls tell me why the use of phago and then he changes the word to trogo?"

I'll be glad to answer your question but first for the sake of the readers can you tell us all as you have stated, "If Jesus wanted a symbolic meaning to his teaching, he could had use another greek word but instead use a more graphic word trogo!"

Sir, what is that word??
---john9346 on 5/18/17



cluny states, "Wrong again, as in so much else you say about me."

Sir, what have I stated about you that is wrong?
---john9346 on 5/18/17


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ohn9346* But sir, you originally stated that "Trogo." was used in vs 51 now you're saying its "Phago."

My bad, but they both mean to eat, as you have mention,

/John 6 the word for eat in Greek is, "Phago." verses 54, 56, and 58 the Greek Word for eat is, "Trogo."/

Pls expalin the difference?



john9346* Sir, respectfully, sir have you really studied these words??


Study?? John you sound like you study Greek, pls tell me why the use of phago and then he changes the word to trogo?
---Ruben on 5/18/17


Reuben states, "Those two words are pointing to the same reality , physical eating of Jesus,"

Are they? to examine your claim first, what is the difference between "Phago." and "Trogo?"

Reuben states, "If Jesus wanted a symbolic meaning to his teaching, he could had use another greek word but instead use a more graphic word trogo!"

And sir, what would that word be can you tell us all here??



---john9346 on 5/17/17


Reuben states, "phago was use in v51, they ask " How can this man give us his flesh to eat'?"

But sir, you originally stated that "Trogo." was used in vs 51 now you're saying its "Phago."

Sir, respectfully, sir have you really studied these words??

Thats why i said to you that words without or taken out of context mean absolutely "Nothing."...
---john9346 on 5/17/17


john9346* Sir, this is "Patently False." verses 51-53 of John 6 the word for eat in Greek is, "Phago." verses 54, 56, and 58 the Greek Word for eat is, "Trogo."

Those two words are pointing to the same reality , physical eating of Jesus, case in point phago was use in v51, they ask " How can this man give us his flesh to eat'?

If Jesus wanted a symbolic meaning to his teaching, he could had use another greek word but instead use a more graphic word trogo!
---Ruben on 5/17/17


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Reuben states, "Yes but not all-From v51-58 the Greek verb (trogo) which means to chew, gnat, or much is used."

Sir, this is "Patently False." verses 51-53 of John 6 the word for eat in Greek is, "Phago." verses 54, 56, and 58 the Greek Word for eat is, "Trogo."

The Holy Spirit had John use Pago and Trogo in verse 58.

Phago and Trogo as used by John The apostle in Jn 6:51-58 no where support "Transubstantiation."
---john9346 on 5/16/17


reuben states, "4. If Jesus were demanding us to eat His flesh in a symbolic sense, He would be saying "He who reviles or assaults me has eternal life."

Sir, did the disciple see this as literal?

Let see, vs 68-69, "If one pay close attention Peter understood exactly what the Lord Jesus Christ was saying from vs 35-63, "68 Then Simon Peter answered him, Lord, to whom shall we go? thou hast the words of eternal life." 69 "And we believe and are sure that thou art that Christ, the Son of the living God."

If literal, Peter would have bitten the Lord Jesus and the Lord would have permitted it... It would have been an "Act of Worship."
---john9346 on 5/16/17


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