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Luke 12:11 And when they bring you unto the synagogues, and unto magistrates, and powers, take ye no thought how or what thing ye shall answer, or what ye shall say:12 For the Holy Ghost shall teach you in the same hour what ye ought to say.

The question is, does John BELIEVE and put his faith in the promises of God? That is really the bottom line John. Here's a promise John, that seemed to go over your head.

We live by FAITH John, FAITH IN HIS PROMISES.
---kathr4453 on 6/22/17


john9346:

Again, "How God communicates With Us." is no longer listed.

From "Is Sola Scriptura A Theory.":

2 Tim 3:15-17, John 20:30-31 say scripture is useful, not that it's exclusive.
1 Cor 4:6 says men aren't above scripture, not scripture is above men.
(If you meant some other post, please indicate the date, giving just a blog is like saying "It's in John somewhere". There's not room to dissect all 75 posts in one reply.)


Samuelbb7:

Jesus telling his followers to eat his flesh DIRECTLY contradicted dietary laws from Leviticus. Many followers who believed Sola Scriptura had to leave him as a false teacher over this. The ones who stayed did NOT follow Sola Scriptura.
---StrongAxe on 6/21/17


strongaxe:

"How God communicates With Us." Blog.

"Is Sola Scriptura A Theory." Blog

These 2 blogs provide my position as well as the "Def." of Sola Scriptura.

What i'm finding is many blogs have knowledge of one position so no need to keep repeating because if one is paying attention they would know the positions, and beliefs of others.

Strongaxe, this is ironic because I know your position from these blogs and others but you don't no mine? :-)

Just want you know I appreciate your contribution to debate/dialog and hold nothing Personal against you just know andremember.
---john9346 on 6/21/17


\\"Memorization of scripture has no power John. It's the "Holy Spirit" that brings scripture to our mind WHEN WE NEED IT,"

Tell us, do you believe the "Scriptures." are, "Theopneustos." meaning the Direct Words of God?"
---john9346 on 6/19/17\\

john, demons and pharisees and even Satan quoted the Scriptures to Jesus. But did their knowledge of the Scriptures do them any good?

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 6/21/17


john9346:

You wrote: I asked you to provide the def prior and you couldn't.

I admitted that I couldn't, so I asked you to provide yours, but instead of simply stating it, you direct me to another blog (which I couldn't find). You waste much more blog time arguing the issue than simply stating your position. It is illogical to debate you on a position when I don't even know exactly what your position is (since you keep telling me that my belief of what your position is incorrect, but you won't tell me what is wrong about it).
---StrongAxe on 6/20/17




strongaxe:

""All scripture is profitable" does not imply "All non-scripture is non-profitable"."

Sir, this goes back to do you understand the def of, "Sola Scriptura."

I asked you to provide the def prior and you couldn't.

Its illogical to continue attacking a position when one cant define it.
---john9346 on 6/19/17


Kathr:

"John when WE speak the Word of God it is accompanied by the Holy Spirit with POWER."

Ma'am, the "Scriptures." come from the Holy Spirit that is why the "Scriptures." are, "Powerful."

"Memorization of scripture has no power John. It's the "Holy Spirit" that brings scripture to our mind WHEN WE NEED IT,"

Tell us, do you believe the "Scriptures." are, "Theopneustos." meaning the Direct Words of God?"
---john9346 on 6/19/17


Strongaxe:

If all of "Scripture.", is not, "Theopneustos." then what is?
---john9346 on 6/19/17


john9346:

You quoted: 2 Timothy 3:16: All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:

"All scripture is profitable" does not imply "All non-scripture is non-profitable".
---StrongAxe on 6/18/17


Cluny ALSO saw your words being BCV. John when WE speak the Word of God it is accompanied by the Holy Spirit with POWER. Please don't go back and rewrite MY WORDS, by suggesting they need your correction.

Memorization of scripture has no power John. It's the "Holy Spirit" that brings scripture to our mind WHEN WE NEED IT, not our memory. A brilliant ATHIEST can memorize scripture. I knew someone years ago who memorized more scripture than anyone around, and THEN converted to the JW's.

Give it a rest John. YOU insisted in pressing BCV, not scripture itself. I insisted scripture itself has Power.

This is why you get into so many arguments here with folks.......you don't LISTEN.
---kathr4453 on 6/18/17




Kathr:

" Augustine was around 400 ad. C and V was around 1200ad."

But he had memorization of, "Scripture."

"I believe quoting the Word of God is accompanied by the Holy Spirit with POWER."

Kathr, the Holy Spirit, "Inspired." "Scripture." in other words the Holy Spirit working through the "Scriptures." is the power... Heb 4:12 Jn 17:17.

Kathr, you asked me had anyone ever been saved by reading, "Scripture." and I gave you 4-Noted Christians who were...
---john9346 on 6/17/17


It is astonishing how those who say they are Christians and then turn around and deny "Sola Scriptura." What they fail to recognize is without, "Sola Scriptura." there is and would never be "Christianity."

2 Tim 3:

15 And that from a child thou hast known the holy scriptures, which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus.

16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:

17 That the man of God may be perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all good works.
---john9346 on 6/17/17


Augustine was around 400 ad. C and V was around 1200ad.

I believe quoting the Word of God is accompanied by the Holy Spirit with POWER. With C.S. I understand the preacher read From Isaiah, but no one can prove or disprove the preacher stated C and V.

I often hear men pray scripture without stating BCV in the prayer.

So again, it's interesting John actually started ANOTHER "finish it here" wanting to continue a lie. Are you just lonely John,....or do you just LOVE arguing? Making statements without any proof or backup means nothing John. Again, you should have just left it alone. BUT we know it's not in your nature. So now what....change the context to say you meant something else?
---kathr4453 on 6/17/17


\\Augustine, Martin Luther (reformer), Jonathan Edwards, Charles Spurgeon, etc\\

Augustine and the other early fathers did NOT quote BCV because they didn't exist when these writers flourished.

The chapter divisions developed in the Middle Ages. The verse numbers were added AFTER the Reformation had started.

NEITHER are in the original.

I'm not saying this was a bad thing, but they were never part of the original inspired Greek, Hebrew, and Aramaic.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 6/17/17


NurseRobert said, "Hence the "arguing and bickering". John you just proved why this occurs."

Sir, hear what the Holy Spirit inspired Paul to write:

"17 Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned, and avoid them." Rom 16:17

question are you obeying this commandment?? Are you better than Paul?

Haz also stated, "Check scripture and see disagreements and conflicts arose in New Testament times also. We even see people being put out of the church for their deceitful doctrine."
---john9346 on 6/16/17


Kathr ask, "Also please tell us exactly how many people you have seen and KNOW we're saved solely on someone stating BCV.....and that you know for a FACT THAT was 100% the reason for their salvation."

This is a very "Good Question."... Surpirse it hasn't been asked sooner...

There are many, but here are just some:

Augustine, Martin Luther (reformer), Jonathan Edwards, Charles Spurgeon, etc.

---john9346 on 6/16/17


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