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Seventh Day Ellen G. White

Gary: Just got done reading the history of tithing and: I learned that the question of tithing was more the result of an evolutionary process than a copy of the OT or NT system. I learned that there were some changes made to the system to better finance the ministries of the church. I DID NOT READ THAT THE BRETHERN DECEIVD THE MEMBERSHIP BY TRYING TO HAVE THEM ACCCEPT A PLAN "AS GODS PLAN" KNOWING FULL WELL THAT IT WAS THEIR OWN PLAN. My reading lead me to see actions take by committes in a fairly orderly way just as it is done today. So, you were not exactly honest with what you wrote about the way the tithe was promoted and your amazement at the dishonesty of the leadeship over the years is totally baseless.

Seventh Day Ellen G. White

LEE: I don't want to take too much time to deal with your questions because I don't sense that you would enjoy my efforts. I wll give you one example of how you misinterpret what EGW said: 29 Did she say that the Civil war was a sign that Jesus was coming back soon.< Her thoughts were not focused on the Civil War specifically but on the world in general. Later she commented on the war and wrote "Everything is preparing for the great day of God. Time will last a little longer, until the inhabitants of the earth have filled up the cup of their iniquity ... and this land of light will drink the cup of His unmingled wrath." For the rest consult the EGW estate. Peace, PR

Seventh Day Ellen G. White

Lee: I have just spent hrs readig about EGW's health principles. My reading contains the answers to your questions BUT you have to look for them and find them in about 10 pages of "NUTS" materials which I am ready to send to you for FREE. Just send me your mailing address and I will send you the goods! For others, go to the Ellen G. White Estate webpage and search: dangers of meat eating for children. Happy reading! PR.

Seventh Day Ellen G. White

LEE:I almost did not answer you at all because of your attitude. Yu are more interested in DARING me to have an answer than in LEARNING from my answer. 1. EGW did not say that eating meat would make YOU immoral! 2. EGW wrote that meat should not be served to children because of its influence and that a meatless diet FOR CHILDREN is preferable. I will take a little time to research her claim and from time to time I will report my findings.

Seventh Day Ellen G. White
	LEE: Tonigt I just watched Larry King'program. The topic: Should you eat meat? The guests were talking about such "nutty things" as EGW wrote about. Did you see the program? EGW would have fit right in with the panel and she would not ha been treated like a nut!

Seventh Day Ellen G. White

LEE: Here is another article which just caught my eye. Bottom Line Secrets, Oct.1, 2009 under the heading LIMIT MEAT: "Strict SDA avoid meat enirely. Studies of SDA show that a relatively high proportion eat nuts. Those who eat about two ounces of nuts five or more times a week have heart decease rates that are only half those who rarely eat nuts." So NUTS to you for a better understanding and appreciation of EGW's writings on health.

Seventh Day Ellen G. White

CLUNY: Your paraphrse of EGW is invalid. She does not claim to be "the infallable" mouthpiece of the Holy Spirit. Your comment that she "claims inllability in all things" is totally untrue also. Stick to the facts, please! Thanks. Gary: As for the White Estate takig down part of their website because it was causing them trouble to tell the truth, pllease provide me with drect proof of your claim, such as a letter from them affiming what you caim! Thanks. As for "adapting" or adopting the tithing plan from the Bible, I don,t see anythiing wrong with that. Jesus, in Math, 23:23 edorsed the tithng principal!

Tithing A Biblical Teaching Today
	GARY: Granted, most texts supporting tithing are from the Old Testament.But is it not TRUE tht in MATH 23:23 Jesus endorsewd the tithing principle when he said:...these you ought to have done without leaving the others (ex. pay tithe) undone. Since Jesus endorsed the tithing principle I conclude that it is a good way to finance the churche's ministriess.

Can We Suffer After Death
	No! No! You cannot be DEAD and feel PAIN! You have to be ALIVE to feel PAIN! Discussion closed!

Burn In Hell For Eternity
	No! No1 Jesus did not say such a thing!The wicked will be BURNT UP into ASHES and that will be the end - SECOND DEATH- for them.

God's Wrath Held Back

YES, I believe that Christ's coming has been set back so that more people will have an opportunity to hear and accept the Good News. However, I don'think he is "late" in coming, rather I believe that in His love He has extended th time of probation some, because He really does not want any of us to be lost. He will however not extend the time any more than He wants to and He will come READY or NOT, like a thief in the night!

Was Jesus Born On Dec 25th

No,Jesus was not brn on Dec 25th! Accoding to PAGANISM, TAMMUZ, child of the sun-god was born on that day. His birth was hailed as a great miracle. Falling as it did during the slowly lengthening days, immediatly after the winter solstice, it was also seen as an omen of te sun's rebirth and was heralded by tumultuous rejoicing. Dec 25th was thereafter observed as the birthday of the son of the sun-god, and becae a yaerly feast throuhout he kingdom

Does Purgatory Exist
	There is no such place as purgatory. Where did the RCC come up with it? They invented it! made it up! (like some other things they made up).

Should Christians Drink Beer
	The Bible tells us that whatever we eat or drink (Do) we should do all of it to the glory of God. Can you drink beer to the glory of God? If you can you are ok doing it. I don't think it is possible! Just my opinion! PR

Can We Suffer After Death
	The Bible teaches that the dead are in a state of unconsiousness They know not anything in that state of affairs. They can feel nothing in that state of affairs neither can we help them or pray for them.

Can Mary Offer Salvation
	No, Mary cannot save us! It does not help to pray for those who alledgedly are in purgatory. Why? There is no such place!

Sabbath Breakers Going To Hell
	It depends on whether you knowingly do not keep the day holy or if you have not yet had the chance to be enlightened on the subject. One ting is for sure, you will go to the place of YOUR CHOICE! Heaven or hell!

Did Saul Go To Heaven
	Kathr4453: Apreciate your note. Nice to have someone who agrees with me.

Did Saul Go To Heaven
	Besides the fac hat the dead don't go anywhere when they die I think it is fair to say that when Jesus comes back, Saul will most likely not be part of the first resurrection!