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Fort Hood Terrorism Attack
  
Alan,

Obivously you don't hold any equities in companies producing and distributing Blue Cheese. I do, and your disclosure could seriously disrupt my retirement strategy, forcing me to rearrange my portfolio into such areas as autokinetic nanobtic hormonal brainwave RFID vaccine insertable behavioral control solutions.

So please leave this one alone.

Must go now. My ride awaits. Touring Pluto tonight, and this is a probe free excursion.


Holy Spirit Tingles Inside
  
Rhonda,

No offense taken.

That is the point. We are talking about other people's children...

I am sure that there are Christians who would not want other Christians, with different beliefs, attempting to indoctrinate their children.

And on the fringe there are the crazies, who use their beliefs to justify all sorts of unmentionable behavior.

Beliefs in 'god' do not give license to do or say anything because you think you say it in the name of 'god'.


Holy Spirit Tingles Inside
  
No Earl.

Delusional people believe they are guided by 'god' and do weird and bad things.

Some believe in 'god' and get comfort and strength from that belief. I get that. But that doesn't make 'god' real, but it does make the belief in 'god' helpful and useful to some.

That same belief, taken to a extremes, (that is believing you've got the direct line to 'god' and he's talking to you) becomes dangerous to the believers and the world around them.

Go ahead, explain, how those people got the wrong 'god', or are obsessed by demons, or are just pretending but really want to do evil, or whatever.

You know the true 'god', and you are not crazy, and if anyone disagrees then they are crazy and got the wrong 'god'.


Holy Spirit Tingles Inside
  
Earl,

You view of a "moral constitution", may work for you. But it also worked at Jonestown and Waco. It has also worked for child abductors taking young girls, forcing them into "marriage" and motherhood. Then there are suicide bombers, the crusades, several inquisitions, , hatred and distrust for those believing in the wrong 'god', and spiritual support for just about every war ever waged. (The Bible documents many of these well.)

And you dare to accused me of lacking a moral grounding because I do not believe in some 'god', any 'god' in fact, that will provide me with some ostensible moral grounding?

I know the things I listed are wrong, I don't need a 'god' to know that. It is sad if you do...


Judgement Day Happens
  
"The lord will come back on MAY 21st, 2011."


Do you have a location? And at what time?---I don't want to miss this...


Holy Spirit Tingles Inside
  
Earl,

Interesting tactic on your part.

My main point was that it is inapproriate for anyone of any faith to be preaching to the underage children of other people. It seems there is quite a bit of agreement on that point.

The unspoken but implied point is that such behavior should not condoned, as it could be an opening for other activities or ideas that could be harmful to young people and impressional minds. Again there seems to be agreement.

I do doubt that Mima had onerous intentions but acceptance of such behavior simply because one sees himself as a 'soul winner' is still over the line.

Your tactic of attacking me, as immoral, is ridiculous as it is off point.


Holy Spirit Tingles Inside
  
Earl: "...she may be a young legal adult".

Yes she maybe...But young legal adult usually does not equate to 'school girl'.

If the school girl was a minor the act of proselytizing to another's child is inappropriate, as noted by several Christians here. Don't excuse such because mima is a Christian.

If the girl was not a girl but an adult and said she felt 'all funny inside' and that was the best description she could muster, I would have some worry about mental disability or at least a problem with adult language and communication.

Mima, knows if the girl was a girl, and if she was fully able to understand adult issues and make decisions as an adult. Unless she was clearly an adult, he crossed the line.


Holy Spirit Tingles Inside
  
Earl,

Mima clearly crossed a line. At the very least, he took the opportunity to exploit the presence of another's child in his home to demonstrate what he believes to be his ability to bring others to 'salvation'.

To suggest that this behavior is proper for spiritual reasons is unconscionable naive.

You certainly would not condone the same behavior on my part if I brought someone else's minor child into my home to explain to them that she were wrong for believing in 'god'. Or if one of Muslim faith did the same for the purposes of conversion.

There are clear lines of conduct in civil society and those of the Christian faith are not excluded...

I hope the door was open, and there was no laying on of hands...


Holy Spirit Tingles Inside
  
If that were may daugther I would ask if at any time you had closed the door...


Why Do You Believe In God
  
I did not ask this question.

I am not Jason(atheist).


Belief In Dispensationism
  
Sorry I think I have this mixed up with dispensations or condolences...


How Did God Make Life
  
"Since God rested on the 7th day, does that mean He is still resting?"

That would explain a lot...


Did God Create Evil
  
Warwick,

That is an excellent example.

I have said before that I have no problem with people who take comfort, as you clearly do, from their beliefs. (Even if that comfort comes from what I consider an imaginary friend.)

Child molestation does happen, with some perversely claiming it is to do 'god's will'.
Or suicide bombers who do it for 'god' and 72 virgins. Or use 'god' to justify hate toward others that are different than themselves.

I have taken the practice of putting 'god' in quotes to emphasize 'god' as a concept, and a personalized concept of god for everyone.

Your 'god' is not the same 'god' as the man who abducted a 14 year old, and had children with her as instructed by his 'god'.


Is God Alive Today
  
Trav, "I will rebuke a lie or ignorance."

And you say nothing yourself. Everything you say is true because you claim it is true because you wrote it down in response to something you think applies from the bible. No matter how disjointed, unreadable, and seemingly off point that response is. You apparently think yourself a conduit for the 'word of god'. How arrogant. How many 'false prophets' thought as you?


Belief In Dispensationism
  
Is that where you pay off a 'man of the cloth' for 'sins' so 'god' doesn't send you to 'hell'?


Did God Create Evil
  
Warwick,

Put my anger aside? What anger? I am not angry with 'god'?

But I am truly bothered, by those now and historically who have their belief in 'god' to justify all manner of acts and political positions small and large, horrendously violent and widespread, and incredibly trivial but selfish and self-serving.

It is the 'use' people put their belief in 'god' that is disturbing.


Did God Create Evil
  
Alan,

If that last was to me, I do understand that you believe in freewill. But the ironies of a pre-determined universe created by 'god' or an absolutely mechanized one defined by known and yet to be known scientific 'laws' is absurdly fun to contemplate...


Did God Create Evil
  
Alan,

It would be really disturbing to me if there were a 'god' and he had decided everything in advance. I can't imagine believing that.

That would mean he made me an atheist with the intention of punishing me with eternal hellfire.

But worse, it would mean that he creates murderers and child molesters to also burn in hell. Sure they may get punished, but what about the innocents that are hurt in this life?

If all is pre-destined then what are we all doing---playing out some complex theatrical production directed and written by 'god'?

Kudos for the props, they are really awesome ---he did a great job with the set decorations.


Did God Create Evil
  
Jim,

So what you are saying is the Satan has equal powers to god. Or god is letting Satan do what he does even though god is stronger.

Or are there essentially two gods, God and Satan?



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