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Sabbath Breakers Going To Hell

Furthermore, Saturday as a workday in most of the Roman world. Most early Christians were of lower social/economic classes so it would not have been practical to observe the Jewish sabbath. Can we see a Christian slave asking his master for Saturday off for religious reasons? LOL ---lee on 8/27/09 Being forced into working on the 7th day Sabbath such as the slaves in Egypt were is one thing, choosing to do it yourself in a day of Freedom is another. Once slaves are free, they should return to observance of the Sabbath. It is the THE Sabbath, not the Jewish Sabbath as you so often incorrectly repeat. Saturday is a work day today, yet choices can be made and Sabbath can be kept holy.

Why Did God Give Us The Bible

God gave us the Bible so we could hear the word of God and have faith. "So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God" Heb 10:17 Then that faith must be acted upon, in obedience. "Can faith save him?...Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone" James 2:14,17 What works? Obedience to the 10 commandments, as the verses right before, 10-12 shows. If we love God and neighbor, we will be obedient to the 10. Matt 22:36-40 The judgment will be fair to all. If the Sabbath was broken in OT and people lost because of it ,those who break Sabbath now and choose to sin will also be lost. Sin separates us from God, and sin per 1 John 3:4 is transgression of 10 Commandments.

Sabbath Breakers Going To Hell

"Christ also suffered for us, leaving us an example, that ye should follow his steps, Who did no sin (broke not the 10 commandments 1 John 3:4 sin is breaking the 10 commandments), neither was guile found in his mouth" 1 Peter 2:21,22 "As His custom was, he went into the synagogue on the Sabbath Day" Luke 4:16 Christ worshipped on the Sabbath, and his is our example, to follow in His steps. Jesus created us, and rested on 7th day, then He redeemed us, and rested on 7th day. The Sabbath is the dual memorial of creation and redemption. "Remember the Sabbath Day to keep it Holy" Exod 20:8 Words of Jesus, written with His own finger.

Sabbath Breakers Going To Hell

"Do we then make void the law through faith. God Forbid! Yea, we establish the law" Romans 3:31 "Sin is the transgression of the law" 1 John 3:4 "Do not commit adultery" "Do not kill" "So speak ye, and so do, as they that shall be judged by the law of liberty" James 2:10-12 "I had not known sin, but by the law, for I had not known lust, except the law had said, "Thou shalt not covet"" Rom 7:7 Sabbath is a part of the 10. Break 1 you have broken them all. It is the seal of new covenant. You cannot remove the seal. New Cov is God writing the 10 commandments onto our hearts (Heb 8:10) The wages of sin (breaking 10 commandments) is death Rom 6:23

Ten Commandments In Force

Where in the bible does it say our present days are the same as the early ones? ---alan8566_of_uk on 8/24/09 Do you think God would require us to keep holy the 7th day, at the pain of death, which is the punishment for sin, Romans 6:23, if we could not ascertain which day is the 7th? Jesus kept holy the 7th day in His day, and by the 5770 year old Jewish calendar, we are keeping the same 7th day as in the days of Christ. The Jews still keep Saturday, which is the 7th day. God has preserved the weekly cycle.

Ten Commandments In Force

God did not leave us to guess which day is the Sabbath, Exodus 20:8-11 states the 7th day is the Sabbath. Today's 7th day is the same one as creation. The weekly cycle has been preserved from that time to this. Since the 4th commandment requires the observance as holy of the 7th day, God would not allow the correct 7th day to be lost to oscurity, otherwise it would be a valid excuse for disobedience, which it is not. As we all know, there is no excuse for sin. John 15:22 margin. Therefore, there can be no excuse for not observing the correct 7th day. We do not choose just one day in 7, only the 7th day is holy, sacred, set apart by God. Do we unsurp God and specify another day? No!

Ten Commandments In Force

The same 7th day we have on our modern calendar is the same one from creation. The weekly cycle has been preserved from that time to this. If time had been lost, it was corrected when God rained Manna on the 7th day in Exod 16. If time had been lost by the time of Christ, he would have corrected it, but instead worshiped on the 7th day then. In the past 2000 years, we have no time lost, and all changes to the calendar did not effect the weekly cycle.

Seventh Day Adventist Belief

"Remember the Sabbath day to keep it holy. 6 days shalt thou labor and do thy work, but the 7th day is the Sabbath of the Lord thy God,..." Exodus 20:8-11 God says Remember, to keep it holy. Those who do not want to, come up with a multitude of futile excuses such as: 1. Calendar has been changed, we do not know what day is 7th 2. The Sabbath is not for me, it is only for Jew, even though it was instituted at creation long before Israel /Jews existed 3. Observing 4th commandment is legalism, even though obedience to other 9 is not classified that way (pick and choose) 4. Sabbath has been changed to 1st day 5.New Cov includes only 9 commandments, even thou James 2:10-12 states all 10 form 1 perfect law

Ten Commandments In Force

The 7th day Sabbath of Creation, was instituted before sin, as was marriage. Marriage and the Sabbath are shadows of NOTHING. They were created for the benefit of mankind, before sin came along and ruined the perfection. The Ceremonial feasts and sabbaths all pointed towards the future Messiah and were a shadow of the coming Messiah. This is why the feasts and ceremonial sabbaths (which could fall on any day of the week) are no longer observed as their pointed forward purpose was fulfilled. The 7th day Sabbath, on the other hand, points backward, to Creation, and is a perpetual memorial of that fact. It also is now a memorial of our redemption by Christ, as He rested on 7th day from redeeming us.

Seventh Day Adventist Belief

Thus I can only reject your position. ---Lee 8/23/09 You reject the Bible's position. Bible truth, and who is the truth? Jesus Christ, who created the Sabbath, who asks you to Remember the Sabbath to keep it holy Exod 20:8, to which you say no to, and give a multitude of futile excuses, which will come up to haunt you in the judgment. Clear Bible evidence has been shown you, and all you can do is reject it with concepts, that only sound good to the person who does not want to obey God and does not want to accept Bible truth, who wants Friday nights and Saturday as their own time. Saying No to Jesus Christ who wrote the 10 CC? "I never knew you, Depart from me, ye that work iniquity" Mat 7:23 Iniquity = sin = breaking 10 CC

Ten Commandments In Force

One obeys God because God asks us to. Not to be saved, but because we are saved. The Pharisees were not Christians. Christ made it clear they were whited seplecures, pure on the outside, filthy on the inside. The true obedient Christian should not be this way. So, the Pharisees were not really keeping the 10 commandments, because they had hatred and killing of Jesus in their hearts. They were not commandment keepers. Yes, Jesus does not want us to be like them.. he wants us to be true commandment keepers, obedient to God, in Christ's power. I can do all things through Christ who strengtheneth me. Phil 4:13 I can overcome as Christ did Rev 3:21

Seventh Day Adventist Belief

I think we can add the Coptic church in Egypt as well as the Nestorian churches to that list as well? ---Lee 8/22/09 Any church that adopts the Catholic Sunday as their day of worship, gives homage to Pope of Rome whether or not they were under direct control or not.. the influence of Rome was widespread. Even now those who worship on Sunday thinking they are Protestant and not under the control of Rome, really are giving homage to Rome by adopting the mark of catholic authority. Protestantism, in discarding the authority of the (Roman catholic) Church, has no good reasons for its Sunday theory, and ought logically to keep Saturday as the Sabbath. John Gilmary Shea, American Catholic Quarterly Review, January 1883.

Ten Commandments In Force

If you feel you are justified by the law instead of by His grace, then by all means do exactly what Jesus did. Obviously you will fail miserably. ---Lee 8/22/09 "Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound? God Forbid!" Rom 6:1,2 "To him that overcometh will I grant to sit with me in my throne, even as I also overcame and am set down with my Father in his throne" Rev 3:21 Overcoming sin just like Jesus did is not justification by the law. Label obedience to God and His law justification by the law, when it is nothing more than being obedient to God, a process called sanctification. "I can do all things through Christ which strengtheneth me" Phillipians 4:13

Seventh Day Adventist Belief

Question to all Sabbath keepers, Do you believe that worshiping on Sunday is mark of the beast? ---mima 8/22/09 Sunday is our mark or authority...the church is above the Bible, and this transference of Sabbath observance is proof of that fact. Catholic Record of London, Ontario, September 1, 1923. Of course the Catholic Church claims that the change (Saturday Sabbath to Sunday) was her act...And the act is a mark of her ecclesiastical authority in religious things. H.F. Thomas, Chancellor of Cardinal Gibbons. "If any man worship(worship is religious) the Beast (RCC) and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead (beliefs) or in his hand (outward observance).." Rev 14:9

Keeping The Sabbath

So there for does it really matter the name of the Sabbath? ---mike 8/21/09 The 4th Commandment states "Remember the Sabbath day to keep it holy.. the 7th day is the Sabbath of the Lord thy God.." Exod 20:8-11 When Jesus walked the earth, he kept 7th day Sabbath. If the calendar had been altered to wrong day, He would have corrected it then or before. Jesus rested in tomb on 7th day and was resurrected shortly after 7th day Sabbath was past. Luke 23:56 "and rested the Sabbath day according to the commandment" then on first day of week Christ was resurrected. Jews keep a very old calendar, and same 7th day Jesus rested in tomb on from His work of redemption is the same Sabbath of today.

Ten Commandments In Force

gina - while we do not reject what is said about the law, you also need to consider the fact that the law was a schoolmaster to lead us to faith in Christ. Once that function has been accomplished, we no longer need the schoolmaster. ---Lee on 8/22/09 And once led to Christ, you find Christ upholding the same 10 commandments: "If thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments. He saith unto him, Which? Jesus said "Thou shalt do no murder, thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness, Honour thy father and thy mother.." Matthew 19:17-19 Christ shows that loving God you keep the 1st 4 commands, and loving neighbor you keep the last 6. Matt 22:37-40.

Ten Commandments In Force

the law was a schoolmaster to lead us to faith in Christ. Once that function has been accomplished, we no longer need the schoolmaster. ---Lee 8/22/09 All the statements from Bible about the law being in effect stating that we will be judged by them, were made after Christ was resurrected. Romans, 1 John, James, Hebrews. If law were no longer in effect years after Christ left earth, they never got that message. Instead, the Apostles got the message across that God's law was to be followed. "For if we sin (break 10 commandments) wilfully after we have received knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins but a fearful looking for of judgment" Heb 10:26 It does not get any clearer than that!

Seventh Day Adventist Belief

Jesus upheld the 10 commandments "If thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments. He saith unto him, which? Jesus said "Thou shalt do no murder, Thou shalt not commit adultery. Thou shalt not steal. Thou shalt not bear false witness, Honour thy father and thy mother..." Matthew 19:17-19 So do the 7th Day Adventists. All 10, including the Sabbath. If you uphold only 9, you are not upholding the commandments. All 10 form 1 perfect law (James 2:10-12) therefore if you break the Sabbath, you have broken them all. "so speak ye, and so do, as they that shall be judged by the law of libery"

Ten Commandments In Force

If one keeps Sunday as Sabbath, and breaks it, does Jesus provide perfect Sunday keeping to cover it? No. Jesus never kept Sunday. Jesus only provides perfect 7th day keeping to cover 7th day breaking. If we sin willfully and do not keep Sabbath, we do not have His perfection to cover us. "Therefore to him that knoweth to do good, but doeth it not, to him it is sin" Jam 4:17 If one knows Saturday is true Sabbath, but chooses to keep Sunday instead, to him it is sin, and there is no righteousness of Christ to cover you for it, for you sin willfully. "For if we sin willfully after that we have received knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins, but a fearful looking for of judgment" Heb 10:26,27