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Belief In Dispensationism

Well MarkV, I hate to disappoint your accusations, but my answer is quite different than Ralph's remaining the same for all the years I've been on CN The Mystery is the CHURCH, both Jew and Gentile becoming one new man In Christ, who in this dispensation are no longer a Jew or Gentile but a New Creature. THAT is the mystery that was hidden but now revealed. We are no longer male/female, jew/greek etc. They Mystery is the mystical oneness and union with Christ as his BODY. Ephesians reveals the secret more, and ends with this truth. Paul began to reveal in his first letter to the Thesselonians concerning the Rapture, and all his letters build upon this truth... Can't you see these deeper truths in Philippians 3?

Does God Draw People

Kathr4453, First of all, the "all men" in John 12:32" is everyone of God's elect. Let's get a couple more witnesses: Mt1:21 And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name JESUS: for he shall save his people from their sins. Did you catch the "his people"? trey*** Trey, His People are ISRAEL. AND we see Israel as a whole REJECTED Jesus. Even in Acts, Peter said...Why do you resist the Holy Spirit as you always have. Why did Jesus say..all day long I have stretched out may hands to you but you would not. Yes Trey, He came to His Own but His own received him not. Gentiles were never called HIS PEOPLE ..EVER!!! My people called by my Name Is Israel.

Is God's Grace For All

Kath is saying, that the Word of God lies. That the Son was not in eternity past. That we were not chosen in eternity past because the Son was not born yet. His incarnation happen later is time, but He was always Jesus Christ. MarkV. on 11/21/09 Are you saying the MAN Christ Jesus was always Jesus Christ? The only mediatior between God and man? Are you Mormon MarkV? Yes, the CHURCH, the Bride of Christ, His BODY was in God's plan from before the foundation of the world HIDDEN-KEPT SECRET-A MYSTERY now revealed. Only the Church today is saved by GRACE,Crucified with Christ and risen with Him. Gal 2:20-21. No one in the OT was saved by GRACE, or lived by Gal 2:20-21. You negate CALVARY,the Mystery, the CHURCH.

Anti-Christ Will Be An Alien

Actually I believe we see something in scripture that may tell us who or where anti-christ will come. King Herod is a type of anti-christ. He was placed by Rome to be the King of Israel at the time of Jesus birth. King Herof was an Edomite( ESAU's descendent).Of coarse we know as well as Herod that only those from Israel of the tribe of Judah had a right to sit on any throne overseeing Israel. Herod knew, and that is why he had all the children killed 2 and under..after the wise men reported a star in the sky ALL knew was a sign of the Messiah of the tribe of JUDAH!!!. Herod was scared! When Jesus returns to reign and rule as KING...I wonder who will be sitting in that chair at the time, and who placed the imposter there?

Does God Draw People

Christ said: Joh12:32 And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, will draw all men unto me ALL Men is exactly all men....It is presumptuous to say it only means the Elect. Hebrews 6 clearly say one can be drawn and never come to salvation! Trey, Jesus here is saying if He be lifted up..that is the preaching of the Cross, for the preaching of the cross is the power of God unto Salvation Also stated in John 3:14 and John 8. So who does the lifting up? We, those who are filled with the Holy Spirit do. WE preach Christ crucified and risen in the power of the Holy Spirit. Even Paul said, God forbid I preach anything else but Christ Crucified. Let's left UP Christ and let God do the rest.

Is Faith Before Belief

Yes, faith is a fruit of the Spirit (Gal 5:22). Trey, No there is no listing for faith being a fruit of the spirit in Galatians 5. Love Joy Peace Long suffering Gentleness kindness Against such there is no law. And those who are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts. The fruit is far superior to the Law, because anyone who bears fruit listed above will never beak the Law. This is the evidence of our faith in Christ. This evidence comes to those who are crucified with Christ, No longer I but Christ who lives in me...we bear HIS VERY LIFE in us. This is our sanctification life...not our justification life.

Is Faith Before Belief

Trey #2 Please post. sorry, Faith is listed in Galatians 5. My mistake. However the faith listed here is not in reference to our faith to believe in Jesus for our justification. A measure of faith Romans 12 is also given to those already saved to continue to not only live by faith as our continued life, but faith in operation of our gifts given to His Body. When you read the verses before Galatians 5:22 you will see the contrast of works of the flesh, and life in the spirit. Romans 8. Paul in GAlatians is talking to already SAVED people who were being troubled by the lawyers wanting to put them back under law after salvation.

Does God Draw People
	John 4:23 "the hour is coming and now is when the true worshippers will worship the Father in Spirit and truth, for the Father is seeking such to worship Him." Who was speaking here?

Does God Draw People

Is there a hierarchy here? The Holy Spirit convicts people of sin. Sounds like He too, has a role in bringing men to their Savior, doesn't He? ---Donna66 on 11/17/09 Yes Donna66, the Holy Spirit does convict of sin. The question above, when Jesus was on earth the Father did bring to Jesus his Apostles and desciples. No cross here. Now read John 12:23-32 John 8:32 and John 3:14-17 All of the Above are talking about lifting up of Jesus RE: The CROSS. The preaching of the Cross is the Power of God unto Salvation. Donna66, I can't tell you how many NT scriptures say we worship/Glorify/Praise God THROUGH our Lord Jesus Christ. It was God who sent His Son. Praise God through Jesus Christ our Lord!!

Did Jesus Break The Ten

Nana, AFTER Paul's salvation he DIED to the LAW and served in newness of SPIRIT, bringing forth the FRUIT of Righteousness, not the LAW of Righteousness. Romans 7:5For when we were in the flesh, the motions of sins, which were by the law, did work in our members to bring forth fruit unto death. 6But now we are delivered from the law, that being dead wherein we were held, that we should serve in newness of spirit, and not in the oldness of the letter. Philippians 1:11 Being filled with the fruits of righteousness, which are by Jesus Christ, unto the glory and praise of God. Ephesians 5:9 (For the fruit of the Spirit is in all goodness and righteousness and truth,)

Did Jesus Break The Ten

"TRUE CHRISTIANS overcoming sin is a life long process" Seems to be a very good definition of what works is, that is being involved in works either to gain salvation are to retain salvation!!! ---mima on 11/17/09 Samuel, Gal 2:21 "for if righteousness comes by keeping the Law, Christ died in vain". Speaking to the Galatians AFTER they were saved, rebuking going back under the Law after salvation. Paul said they fell from Grace. Jesus said A NEW Commandment I give you. Keeping the LAW/commandments won't help you OVERCOME SIN. If it did..what need then for the CROSS? I die daily. So the I that keeps the Law was crucified with Christ..Gal 2:20..no longer I but Christ. ##Romans 7.

Does God Draw People

John 12:32 And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, will draw all men unto me. I believe the Father drawing to Jesus was while Jesus was on earth. HOWEVER, since Jesus has died and rose again, for the forgiveness of sin....It is the Preaching of the Cross THE GOSPEL that draw man TO THE FATHER through Jesus Christ.John 12:32 To say that today the Fahter drawing you to Jesus seems odd, since no one can even come to the Father or the Father overstepping the Son and approach man. We don't worship Jesus we worship God through Jesus.

Did Jesus Break The Ten

Why is it that legalistic Christians always leave out the blood?---JackB on 11/16/09 Legalistic Christians?? No such thing. Apostates who deny the Blood also hate David's God too. David said..Blessed is the man who's sins are forgiven...where God will not impute sin.. Romans 4. Who are "In Isaac will thy seed be called? Galatians? The seed is Christ...and as Isaac was laid on the alter, a TYPE of Christ, Abraham KNEW God would raise him from the dead, Hebrews 11 Abraham saw in a vision the death and resurrection of Christ. Abraham was strong in faith...Abraham's faith was in Christ...Abraham KNEW without the shedding of blood there was no forgiveness of sin. ABEL even KNEW this!!

Is Faith Before Belief
	John 12:48 He that rejecteth me, and receiveth not my words, hath one that judgeth him: the word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last day.

Did Jesus Break The Ten

to believe your LIE then one must IGNORE CHRISTS VERY OWN WORDS which say if you LOVE ME KEEP MY COMMANDMENTS" Rhonda on 11/16/09 Amen Rhonda! ---Nana on 11/16/09 Rhonda, and Nana, you don't have to love Jesus Christ to keep the commandments. Paul certainly felt he was blameless concerning the Commandments yet did not LOVE Jesus Christ. In fact he murdered anyone who did. Read his testimony in Philippians 3.

Is God's Grace For All
	Linda, your last two posts were EXCELLENT!!! AMEN!!

Is Faith Before Belief

Faith is believing in the promises of God. The Promises of God are in scripture. God's WORD. The Promises of God are in the Gospel..God's word. The word of God is LIVING and POWERFUL and sharper than a two edge sword, piercing between soul and spirit. It pierces our conscience. EVERY human has a God Given conscience. Adam and Eve KNEW Good and EVIL ...an awakened conscience between right and wrong, good and evil...Not just evil!!(AFTER they fell). Is God's word only given to a select few? Not according to scripture. God's WORD is His Word to ALL Mankind! Every soul will stand before GOD and be judged by His word...EVERY WORD!!!

Is God's Grace For All

---kathr4453 on 11/13/09 your wonderful answer brings joy to my heart. Let us think Almighty God for his mercy and grace!!!! ---mima on 11/13/09 Oh Mima, isn't that verse wonderful. And another one is..HIS Mercy is NEW everyday. Anyone can say...Be Merciful to me a sinner! ANYONE, and YES God will be merciful. THAT person has a repentant heart! That's the heart God is looking for! Have a great Weekend!! It's going to be beautiful here. AND I'm gonna be a Granny in approx 2 weeks. OH YES!!!

Is God's Grace For All

How can someone think they can be in CHrist before they were even created in the flesh? ---michelle on 11/13/09 Absolutely Michelle. How can anyone believe they were in Christ before Christ came in the flesh? They can't. But they believe they were in the eternal son already before the foundation of the world. This is why MarkV is so adamant that the eternal son existed before the foundation of the world. Without that, he would be totally lost in his election theory. He can't understand that the begotten Son was through the overshaddowing of the Holy Spirit with Mary, who died and rose again and it is in THAT SON ONLY that we are SAVED. There are many Jesus's out there. But only Jesus Christ of scripture can save you.