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Does God Draw People

See thats the thing Markv, I didn't miss it. You did and a very crucial part too. scripture says IN HIM. Who is Him, Markv? CHRIST. That settles the arguement right there. Can you be in Christ BEFORE you are even born? NOPE, you can't. Jesus says REborn. Why does He say REborn (born again) IF you are already born into him before you are born the first time? Jesus means we are to be born TWICE when he says born again. First in the flesh then in CHRIST. So, how are we chosen and when, Markv? Is it US who are chosen or is it Christ who is chosen? HMMM, ask yourself that question, markv. We aren't chosen for anything but death UNTIL we are in Christ. By the way when are you going to answer my ?'s instead of dodging them?

Does God Draw People

Markv, In your words please anwer these questions. Do you believe God can save all of mankind? How can sinners come to Christ IF God has already chosen who will be saved and who will not? Now, to answer the blog question, The Father draws through the WORD/the Holy Spirit. The 2 are the same. Joel and Acts proclaim that the Spirit of God will be/was poured out on ALL flesh. Meaning, Yes God desires ALL mankind to be saved. So, if one isn't saved it is NOT God's fault. He has already offered salvation to all. It will be one's own fault for not accepting the free gift of Salvation. By the way Markv, How can you blaim God for not saving man when He sid he sent his son to do it?

Releasing The Spirit Of Jezebel

How is His headship manifested, with the air, the swine, or with men?- paul Christ headship is manifested by HIM. God leads, man/woman serve. Men condemn women for answering God when he says "whom shall I send?" You get mad because men aren't stepping up but the women are? Women are accepting the call when men are too worried about if they are the ones to lead. If you don't like whats going on, then men need to step up, let God lead them and do what HE says not blame women. Point the finger where it should be pointed, At men for not obeying God. When you submit to God you realize real quick you aren't the one in charge. ITS GOD AND ALWAYS GOD WHOS IN CHARGE.

What's Up In November 2009

I found out my dad is dying. His cancer was cleared from his lungs BUT has spread to the rest of his body. The doctors have said RIGHTLY that its up to God. Hospice comes in everyday to make him comfortable, I do a lot of praying and make sure hes eating right. My daughter is being extremely rebelious skipping school, cursing out teachers, vandalism of the school. I pray for her too. My grandma who helped raise me and tell me about God, is in the hospital in ICU. She is on a vent. I thank God she is saved and pray for her too. I have to find the money for a new battery for my car. Other than these things, Im still blessed! I get to get up every morning and go to work. I thank God for my trials because it just brings me closer to him!

Releasing The Spirit Of Jezebel

Paul, Remember that obedience to God through the Spirit doesn't always agree with the things man believes God would do. And Paul in the Bible says that if we walk in the Spirit, we will not fulfill the lusts of the flesh. God takes the things that are weak and foolish to confound the wise, remember that. God says to worship in Spirit and truth. HE says nothing about flesh at all except that our bodies are the HS temple. Jesus said that we shall know a person is in HIM by the fruit of the HS showing in them. So, if they are showing this, I don't ? God. As for using specific scripture, since you are a man of God if I give you a book and chapter, then you should know the verse.

Does God Draw People

Markv, stop twisting my words just because you don't understand salvation. You have said that those chosen/elect were this before they were even born. This would mean that God put the HS in them before they were born. So, why would God send His son if it God had already chosen them? It would be a waste of Gods time. The only thing sinners can feel from The HS IS conviction for their sins. What do you think remorse is? I have seen people all the time know they have done wrong but blaspeme the HS by not repenting of their sin. Try again. Do you think you have to Pray God out of Heaven or do you believe his spirit is always here waiting for one sinner to repent?

Does God Draw People

Markv, Please go back over my last post. I didn't ask about God's logic. You and Trey don't understand that at the Cross, Jesus fulfilled the prophesy of Joel. He gave up the Holy Ghost. While Jesus was here, he breathed on the disciples and they understood. After his death, and resurrection, he sent the Holy Ghost for all. Joel and acts say he poured it on all flesh. When ON your flesh, the Holy Spirit convicts you of sin, when you REPENT and BELIEVE Jesus, HS COMES TO LIVE IN YOU AND TEACH YOU ALL THINGS. HS doesn't LIVE in you UNTIL you REPENT and are WASHED in the blood of Christ. Before we get saved the only thing the HS shows us is our sin and need to repent of it. This conviction of sin IS GOD drawing man to him!

Does God Draw People

In other words- Holy Spirit convicts all of sin/drawing man to God.(Holy Spirit IS God, by the way). Man repents of his sins shown to him/her BY the HS. They believe Christ and get washed in his blood making spotless and without blemish. They are given a passover! Just like Israel in Egypt. Why are they given the passover? Because they are morked by the blood of the Lamb, Christ. Because they are marked by Christ, the Holy Spirit comes and LIVES in them teaching them the things of God. WHat it comes down to is the HS won't come into you until you are washed in the Blood of Christ. YOU MUST BE WASHED IN THE BLOOD OF CHRIST FIRST BEFORE RECEIVING THE HOLY SPIRIT!

Releasing The Spirit Of Jezebel

Paul, The Headship of the church age is.... wait for it... wait for it... wait for it... Christ is the Head of the Church. Husband is head of wife AS Christ is the head of the Church. Notice that Ephesians is a comparison, gentlemen unless of course you didn't take English. They are similar BUT not the same. answer me this, Paul, is the Church flesh or is it of Spirit and how should we worship God, in flesh OR in Spirit? By the way, I don't have a problem at all with a man leading as long as HEs lead by Christ. When he becomes apostasized, I believe God WILL fill the position with the BEST PERSON According to GOD, not their flesh which by the way isn't pleasing to God anyway.

Does God Draw People

If that was true then everyone after His death is saved. - Markv You have got to be kidding right? And where do you fit in blasphemy of the Holy Spirit in your theory? How do explain Christ's own words? You don't understand salvation IS for all mankind and is accessible for all mankind thats why you make statements like this. The Holy Spirit was poured out on ALL FLESH and convicts ALL of their sins not just the ones who receive it but all. Those who don't believe and repent AFTER being convicted of their sin by the HS are the ones who loose out. AND its trough their own stupidity not God's. God doesn't condemn man to hell, man condemns themselves for not listening and obeying God.

Does God Draw People

Trey God is logical BUT not according to man's logic but GOD'S own logic. He never created beings with the Holy Spirit already in them but just needed to wake up. God never created one destined for heaven and the other for Hell. The only way anyone is predestined for Heaven is BY/THROUGH Christ. Did man have Christ in them before they are born? Absolutely not. To even be saved we must be what? WASHED IN THE BLOOD OF THE LAMB FIRST. Who is the lamb? CHRIST. How does the HS draw? BY THE WORD. Who is the Word? THE WORD IS JESUS CHRIST. That is God's logic. We would never understand a thing with out the Holy Spirit to teach.

Does God Change

I know Markv, I apologized to you on another blog. I realized after I had posted that we were essentially saying the same thing. I offer my apologies to you for that mistake. By the way, I was not arguing with you. I never argue with you. You just don't understand salvation is for all mankind. Not my fault, but I pray that God opens your eyes to his truth and not Calvin's. By the way, how do you reconcile the two? How is it you believe God loves all mankind but hates sin, then say God only died for the elect? You and I both know that Christ died for the sins of the world because he says so. So, why do you put the two together when one is the and the other is a lie?

Does God Draw People

Bobby1, It is nothing me nor kath do but speak what God says in his word. It is perverting the Word of God when saying that Holy Spirit is only available to the saved. How was it you were even saved in the first place if the Holy Spirit were not accessible to you when you were in sin? Oh, you believe the Holy Spirit was in you when God created you right? Wrong. what you say is not God's word. When God ask you why you did not speak HIS truth and why did you condemn people instead of going out and trying to witness and win souls, what will you tell God? Wait, I know, You thought God had already chose before they were born?

Women Teaching In Church

Amen Darlene and Samuel. Trav, you make the mistake in thinking that I tell God what to do when really, it is you and others who say God can't and won't let a woman teach, etc., men. God will and does do what he feels he ses fit. If the person doing the teaching is in line with the word of God and is saying what the lord says, then I have no problem with whom ever God chooses. His word says whom he chooses he also qualifies. I have no argument at all with God. The bride God chooses is the Church and you know my feelings on that.

Did Mary Have More Kids

No Ruben, what we are saying is that God says in the Bible is truth. The Bible says she had other children. The argument you have should not with us it should be with those you follow who have mixed paganism with God's truth making it a lie in some aspects. They tell the truth. I know because they trust in the Holy Spirit to guide them and it seems to me you trust in man to tell you which way to go. THat is a gross mistake. Always trust God. Let God be true and everyman a liar. From the time I could read my Bible, I always saw that Mary did have more children. I also was not corrupted by an institutions thinking either.

Holy Spirit Tingles Inside

Mima did she repent of her sins and ask Jesus into her heart? If she did, then I believe it was the Holy Spirit. Now, Will the seed of Christ grow in her? We need to pray that God will keep, help,teach and protect her. I commend you for doing the will of God. Christ said for us to spread the Gospel. God bless you for it too. Matthew 9:37-38 Then saith he unto his disciples, The harvest truly is plenteous, but the labourers are few, Pray ye therefore the Lord of the harvest, that he will send forth labourers into his harvest John 4:35 Say not ye, There are yet four months, and then cometh harvest? behold, I say unto you, Lift up your eyes, and look on the fields, for they are white already to harvest

Does God Change

Markv, If God didn't change his mind, then why aren't those who keep torah BUT not Christ going to heaven? Why are they condemned in their sins? In the OT, all man had to do was repent, and that was working. BUT NOW We have Christ. And to be saved and have eternal life we must be in Christ. That looks like God changed his mind to me. Didn't God change his mind about you? Didn't he forgive your sins and throw them into the sea of forgetfullness and not bring them back up in your face ever again? You must remember that it is God's love towards man that has never changed. God changes his actions to what ever he wants and when he wants. How can you say God can do what ever and then limit him with your words?

Women Teaching In Church

Trav, as usual you didn't answer my question. But its alright, you don't have to. I am still praying for you. I pray for all who believe they are the head of any church. We are all to be servants and Jesus himself says that. You keep thinking I am confused when I am not. I am being shown things by God daily. I made a mistake. Just like I did when I didn't finish reading Markv's post. He is right God does change when man repents of their sin. It is God's love that has never changed. Unlike you, I can admit when I made a mistake instead of clinging to ideas that are unbiblical and untrue.i.e you and racism.

Does God Draw People

Trey, what you have to understand is that GOD sacrificed first. He sent his son to die for ALL SIN. God made the first move, now all he asks of man is for man to repent(turn away) of their evil ways and believe him. Thats not work. Did Ninevah, Israel and others have to repent? YES TO ALL OF THE ABOVE. The Holy Spirit will convict every man of their sin BUT its up to every man to repent of it. So how is that working? How is giving up self will and picking up God's will working when it was already done Before we even believed? You have to take all of scripture but I see you ignore that God won't live in a dirty temple which is you if you have unrepentant sin. Bible says so.