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How Did God Make Life

Lee: Cluny didn't answer. Perhaps you will. You have basically two choices: (1) God meant exactly what He said when writing to His children in Exo 20:11 - just what a child would read - SIX LITERAL DAYS. or... (2) He meant SIX "FLEX" DAYS, where each day may be of some extreme, but unknown, length. (In which case it would be difficult for His children to count the six days and rest the seventh according to His command.) If you chose (2), then you concieve of God as intentionally deceiving us. Is that the kind of God you serve?

How Did God Make Life

MarkV: You are really experiencing some attention issues, aren't you? Do you think that Jesus knew what day was the REAL Sabbath? (After all, He was the one who made it holy.) Then all we have to do is go back 2000 years - not to creation - to find which day is the Sabbath. Do you understand that professional astronomers (like the ones at the US Naval Observatory) are able to tell the day of the week thousands of years in the past or into the future. You could look it up yourself, or just keep your head in the sand and and keep uttering nonsense. Do you realize that in the majority of major languages worldwide, the name for the day we call Saturday is a variant of "Sabbath." Do you think that's just a coincidence?

Jesus Returns For Us
	MarkV: So what was the score for unconscious vs. conscious dead people?

How Did God Make Life
	cluny: Are you still there? Did you choose # 1 or # 2?

Life Possible Without God
	"All things were made by him, and without him was not any thing made that was made." ---miche3754 on 11/10/09 Exactly! One cannot claim to believe the Bible and yet adhere to the theory that life came into existence (and continues to evolve new species) without the supernatural working of God.

Claim You Are Christian
	Alan: Good grief! I simply asked for clarification of the word "pity" because it didn't make sense in context. I suspected that it might mean "pithy," but I never would have guessed "petty" - too many wrong letters. As for being petty, have you noticed MarkV's responses to me?

How Did God Make Life

MarkV: "We heard you speak already and what you teach is prideful." Now there's a "petty" remark. A history lesson: (1) Jesus is the Creator (Joh 1:3, Heb 1:2). He made only the seventh day holy and commanded that it be remembered. (Gen 2:3, Ex 20:11) (2) Jesus led the Israelites through the wilderness (1Co 10:4). He taught them the true seventh day in the lesson of the manna (Exo 16:15-27). (3) Jesus customarily kept the seventh-day Sabbath Himself 2000 years ago (Luk 4:16). (4) According to the US Naval Observatory and millions of Jews worldwide, the weekly Sunday through Saturday cycle has not changed in the past 2000 years.

Claim You Are Christian
	MarkV: What is "pity stuff?"

How Did God Make Life
	"Well, yes He meant it. And He also meant for us to rest on the seventh day, too....Which for most of us it is Sunday." ---catherine on 11/10/09 Check a calendar or the dictionary. The seventh day is Saturday. Sunday is a man-made counterfeit.

Claim You Are Christian
	duane: "There is only one command...believe on HIM who HE has sent. We dont need examples, We are led by the Spirit." Jas 2:19 .... the devils also believe, and tremble. 1Jn 4:1 Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God:

Jesus Returns For Us

MarkV: "Jerry, the passage in Job does not make you correct." The scripture has nothing to do with me. It says what it says. You give your opinions, and I give you scriptures. Do yourself a favor. Do a word search on soul and on sleep. Give a point to each scripture that implies immortality and consciousness in death, and give a point to each one that implies an unconscious rest in death until the resurrection. Add them up and see which "theory" the Bible supports.

What Is A Soul

Leon: "Jerry: It seems to me you're just trying to win an argument despite the overwhelming Bible evidence that support my statements & refute yours. (Proverbs 16:18)" ---Leon on 11/9/09 I could say the same thing about you, but that would be unkind. I've given you substantial Bible evidence, and you've given a convoluted, self-contradictory theory. I checked my responses below to see if my quoting of scripture was in any way prideful as you assert. I couldn't find any. Would you please point them out?

How Did God Make Life

cluny: "I believe whatever God meant by it." OK. Then you have basically two choices: (1) He meant exactly what He said when writing to His children - just what a child would read - SIX LITERAL DAYS. or... (2) He meant SIX "FLEX" DAYS, where each day may be of some extreme, but unknown, length. (In which case it would be difficult for His children to count the six days and rest the seventh according to His command.) If you chose (2), then you concieve of God as intentionally deceiving us. Is that the kind of God you serve?

Jesus Returns For Us
	MarkV: Unfortunately, your concept of individual, immortal, non-corporeal spirit entities is not substantiated by the Bible. It is not YOUR SPIRIT that returns to God at your death, but rather GOD'S BREATH. Job 34:14,15 If he set his heart upon man, if he gather unto himself HIS spirit and HIS breath, All flesh shall perish together, and man shall turn again unto dust.

What Is A Soul

Leon: It seems to me that you have contradicted yourself. Re Gen 2:7, you said: "The man then became mentally conscious (a breathing creature, soul, nephesh, mind) -- alive." Thus, only when breath was added to dust did man become a soul = a conscious, living creature. Then, re Ps.146:4, you said: "At physical death, man's breath (soul/mind/consciousness)" Now you claim that the BREATH is the SOUL, rather than the life-giving component of the soul. And thus, the breath itself becomes the conscious, living creature. You can't have it both ways.

Jesus Returns For Us

MarkV: "The Spirit does not die, they are already with Christ." Isn't that the definition of immortal - they don't die? And if they are already immortal, then why do they need to "put on" immortality? If they are already with Christ, then why does He need to come back for them? Do you think He needs some decayed old bodies to make them whole? Is earth the only place God can create? I find such logic as yours self-contradictory. If you are comfortable in it, well, bless your heart.

Jesus Returns For Us

MarkV: Although your lengthy response is confused and self-contradicting, I think you are getting close. Point 1. We are not currently immortal - only God is. Point 2. We do not become immortal when we die - we sleep until the resurrection at the 2nd coming of Christ. Point 3. We "put on" immortality at the second coming - whether dead or alive at the time. 1Co 15:51-53 Behold, I shew you a mystery, We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed, In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed. For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality.

What Is A Soul

Leon: "Jerry: You quote a lot of Scripture. But, you seem unable to discern the difference between what the Bible says about the physical/natural man & the spirit man (mind: soul). I believe this is why you're confused about what a soul really is." Uhh, could you provide a scripture to substantiate those assertions? I read: Gen 2:7 And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life, and man became a living soul. Psa 146:4 His breath goeth forth, he returneth to his earth, in that very day his thoughts perish. How would you "interpret" these scriptures?

How Did God Make Life
	cluny: BTW, is that your first-, last- or nick-name? Now that we've agreed that God did indeed write with His own finger that He created the heaven, earth, and ALL life in six days (and commanded us to keep the seventh day holy), the only issue remaining is DO YOU BELIEVE HIM?

Are Fallen Angels Demons

Legends: "The event of this war in "heaven" mentioned in CHAPTER 12 hasn't happened yet" Whoa, hold it partner. The book of Revelation is definitely NOT in chronological order. Ask any Bible scholar worth his salt. If the war has not yet occurred, then Satan has not yet been cast to the earth. If Satan & his angels are not on the earth, then there is no one to tempt us. If there is no temptation, then there is no sin. Do you think there is sin on the earth?