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Seven Noahide Laws
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Gordon:
You said: Those Laws have been implemented in the United States
When?
One resolution recognized March 26, 1991 as Education Day, recognizing the importance of the Noahide Laws. This is a far cry from ENACTING such laws.
Laws 1+5. Prohibition of idolatry and blasphemy: the First Amendment grants freedom of religion.
Law 4. Prohibition of adultery: the Supreme Court ruled in Lawrence vs. Texas that the government has no business in people's bedrooms.
These three would require constitutional amendments to pass. Considering how many have screamed "sanctity of marriage" for years, yet haven't even passed a constitutional amendment prohibiting divorce, don't hold your breath. |
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Can We Trust The Scripture
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Warwick:
I didn't say anything about whether or not Paul was under God's protection or had his approval. I was only speaking about whether Paul considered his own writings "scripture" at the time he was writing them. I don't see any evidence that he did. (Whether or not Peter did so was beside the point). |
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Seven Noahide Laws
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Gordon said: The fact that GOD's O.T. punishment for Law-breaking was stoning and not decapitation shows that SOMEBODY other than GOD made up the rules of decapitation for violating the Seven Noahide Laws.
jerry6593 said: Please provide chapter and verse where God commands decapitation as punishment for transgression of His Laws.
There are none. But since these laws are ALREADY ones that Christians would be following ANYWAY, there should be no danger of violation nor of decapitation, should there be?
Remember that the Old Testament prescribed death by stoning for violating most of these, and dead is dead. |
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Mark Of The Beast Sunday
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Gordon and francis:
None of what Revelation says of the Beast (rules the whole earth, forces the mark, forbids buying without it) has happened yet. The Beast has not yet been revealed. So anything that any regime (despotic or not) has done, including changing days of worship, were NOT the actions of the Beast. It says nothing about day of worshipy.
Perhaps one should focus more on what the Bible actually says about him, rather than reading between the lines what it doesn't.
An old saying: to a man with a hammer, everyhing loooks like a nail. The same applies to anyone with a favorite doctrine (such as Saturday worship). Why do Seventh Day Adventists think EVERY EVIL is about Sunday worship? |
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End Time Guillotines
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francis:
So, yes, America considers Sunday special in some regards. So what? Unless the government forbids you from buying groceries on any other day but Sunday (unless you get a tattoo on your forehead), and will execute you for no-compliance, this has nothing to do with the prophecy in Revelation. |
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Can We Trust The Scripture
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christan:
At the time Paul was writing his epistles, they were just pastoral letters. They did not come to be considered "scripture" until much, much later. Paul didn't have a large enough ego to consider everything that dripped from his pen to be equivalent to dripping from the lips of God. |
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Seven Noahide Laws
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Gordon:
You said: StrongAxe, GOD Himself did not directly ordain any set of "7 Noahide Laws" as rigged-up by the Yahushua-rejecting, Zionist Jews.
Ignoring emotion-ridden rhetoric, see what the laws ACTUALLY SAY. Even though the Bible mentions no such set of rules made by Noah, the fact remains that EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THOSE LAWS is taught somewhere in the Old Testament. So why are you so hostile against something that the Old Testament ACTUALLY TEACHES, and in most cases, multiple times?
Nowhere in those laws does it teach that decapitation is the punishment for breaking them. Anyone who upholds the Ten Commandments should have nothing against them, since they don't teach ANYTHING different. |
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Grammer And Spelling
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Jed:
I agree, that the English language has sufficient redundancy that, in most cases, it's possible to discern correct meaning, even with poor spelling, grammar, punctuation, or even letters or words missing. However, there are occasions where there are two ore more plausible messages one could discern from the same text. (In my facetious example, the meaning is clear in most cases, but not necessarily, if the writer is a cannibal!) |
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Losing My Marriage
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KarenD:
You said: That is the worst thing you can do. Asking advice from total strangers, especially men, is dangerous.
Why "especially men"? Do you think men are, by their nature, less trustworthy than women? If so, what leads you to that conclusion? |
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Seven Noahide Laws
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jerry6593:
Even though there is no specific collection in the Bible of "the seven Noahide laws", each of the laws is mentioned in the Old Testament in one form or other. |
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Grammer And Spelling
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Jed:
While in most cases, precise spelling and grammar are not vital to understanding the meaning of a message, sometimes they are, if two totally different messages are very similar.
For example, look at the difference a single comma makes between:
"Let's eat, grandma!"
and
"Let's eat grandma!" |
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Mark Of The Beast
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Gordon:
Why do you keep insisting that Sunday worship be necessarily equated with the Antichrist? Do you have any personal knowledge about him that the Bible omits?
There is nothing in the prophecies that says anything about SUNDAY worship. And since nobody as of yet is FORCED to do anything to buy or sell, the Beast has not yet been revealed.
He may just as well switch worship to Tuesdays. Or perhaps institute a 10-day week (as they tried to do briefly after the French Revolution, with disastrous results). These would fit the prophecy too. So why fixate on Sunday? |
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Can We Trust The Scripture
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Nana:
Here is why Sola Scriptura cannot be true.
Let's suppose it IS true - that one can ONLY rely on scripture for matters of doctrine, and must reject any traditions not in scripture.
Then, how do you know just WHICH books scripture consists of? Scripture contains no list of such books, and no table of contents.
The list of which books are scripture are part of church tradition, outside of scripture - which contradicts the original assumption.
So, if Sola Scriptura is true, NOTHING can be considered valid scripture! |
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Mark Of The Beast
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francis:
Certain Catholics can choose to say and think what they want, as can people of any other religious persuasion (including Seventh Day Adventists). This has no bearing on what the U.S. Government ACTUALLY does. Unless they can convince 2/3 Congress and 2/3 of the states to make such a change to the constitution, "it ain't gonna happen". |
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Social Media For Christians
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Leon:
"unique users" probably refers to counting hits on a web site, but not counting multiple hits from the same place - i.e. each unique user is counted only once, rather than once for every page visit.
(Remember, you're a truly unique individual - just like everybody else!) |
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Grammer And Spelling
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Leon:
Opening another browser tab is cumbersome. Opening another application is even more cumbersome. But switching from the computer to open a PHYSICAL BOOK? The inconvenience lacks words... :) |
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Grammer And Spelling
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Leon:
I find Firefox convenient because it spell-checks anything typed into forms. Not all browsers do that. Even if one has an out-of-browser spell-checker, it can be quite a pain to have to reply to a post by copying text, pasting into a word processor, running its spell-check feature, and then copying and pasting it back into a browser window. I'm used to spell-checking by eye, but don't always catch mistakes.
As for Eloy, I heard somebody make a comment to that effect, but it's just one person's opinion - I have not heard anything official on the subject (not surprising, since I rarely ever see moderators here speak openly about any moderating actions - they just seem to happen.) |
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Mark Of The Beast
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francis:
You said: Go to CCA web site review Lord's day aliance
Which CCA are you referring to? Surely not the correctional facilities? That's the top listing. But if you mean someone else, please use a name, not an abbreviation.
I found something about "Lord's Day Alliance" but there's a vast difference between a bunch of people hoping to lobby a government into imposing religion, and that government's ACTUALLY imposing religion. If I want information about what a government is doing, I'll check the government or a news site, not some partisan lobbyists.
Do you have anything official? |
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Mark Of The Beast
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francis:
You said: In 1610, the first Sunday law in America...
You are right to say America and not United States of America, because the United States did not exist yet, and neither did the First Amendment, prohibiting state-mandated religion. What happened before 1776 has little to no bearing on laws now.
Can you find any evidence that the government now is trying to force Sunday worship down people's throats? If so, please cite references. From what I have observed over the past several decades is that, quite to the contrary, many traditional Sunday customs (closed businesses, alcohol restrictions, etc.) have been slowly eroding away - the opposite of what you have been suggesting. |
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