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Why An Open Casket
  

Cluny means well, english has it's difficulties, as do any language.
---Elena_9555 on 7/13/14


My point is that Cluny knows full well what "we" and "us" means. But he continually asks "who is we" or "who is us" in an attempt to discredit people and make them feel alone, when in reality, they are not. This was his reason for doing it here on this thread. He was wrong about most westerners preferring open caskets. And when he was corrected by Darlene, he attempted to discredit her by asking "who is we?", as if to say, "speak for yourself". If I thought Cluny actually didn't know "we" means, I wouldn't have said anything.


Why An Open Casket
  
It's ironic how someone who claims to be as educated in English as Cluny doesn't seem to know what the word "we" means. I have noticed a recent trend with Cluny asking people who "we" or "us" are. Of course, even small children know what "we" and "us" means. This is common knowledge. In this particular instance Darlene clearly indicates who the "we" is when she said "In Texas we have open caskets". The "we" are people in Texas. Another example: If someone says "We have music in my church", the "we" refers to the people in their church. This is so elementary.


Why An Open Casket
  
I'm not sure where Cluny lives, so I can't tell whether he is speaking from experience or if he, once again, is acting as an authority on subjects he knows little to nothing about. Perhaps he thinks he knows because he read somewhere that westerners have closed caskets.

Regardless, I can confirm from experience that this is not the case. Every funeral I have ever attended, regardless of denomination, has had an open casket unless the deceased suffered physical trauma that left the body disfigured.


Against Capital Punishment
  
So, now you are saying that you are against abortion, but you still believe that people should have the choice to have abortions, even though it is wrong? Okay, so are you an anarchist then? Certainly you're not pro-choice about acts as heinous as abortion, but not pettier offenses like speeding and theft! If you think such evils as abortion should be a choice, then you must feel the same way about all crimes, since few crimes are as heinous as abortion. Unless you don't truly view abortion as a heinous act, and you think speeding and theft are worse than abortion? If so, you are truly a sick, twisted individual.


Lord Help Me Help
  

\\Because if they weren't, then the saying would be "When God closes one door, He opens another door", which can actually be true\\

Which is the version of the saying I heard ---Cluny on 7/4/14


Which is, of course, a whole different saying altogether. Doors and windows are two different things, and in this case, the difference gives each saying a starkly different meaning.

In my apartment, doors and windows do not occupy the same wall.

I never suggested the door and window in the saying are on the same wall, just that they lead to the same place. How many rooms in your apartment have a window, but no door? And how often do you go through the window when the door is unlocked?


Explain Matthew 24:37
  
StrongAxe, without having heard the quote in context, I imagine he was joking, or exaggerating. My preacher does that.


Lord Help Me Help
  
==then opens a window so that we can bypass the door?
---Jed on 7/1/14==

Who said the window and door were close to each other, or facing the same way?

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 7/2/14


For someone who likes to brag about his superior grammar and spelling abilities, you sure are dumber than a box of rocks! The only reason a person would climb through a window is if the door leading to the same place has been locked. Why would you be looking for an open window to enter when the door is standing wide open? Logic dictates that the door and the window lead into the same place.


Lord Help Me Help
  
==then opens a window so that we can bypass the door?
---Jed on 7/1/14==

Who said the window and door were close to each other, or facing the same way?

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 7/2/14


Because if they weren't, then the saying would be "When God closes one door, He opens another door", which can actually be true. And from reading Rita H's comments, it appears this is actually what she thinks the saying about the window means. But of course a door and window are two very diferent things. God open and closes doors. Saying "When God closes a door, He opens a window" indicates that the door and window lead into the same place.


Explain Matthew 24:37
  
He also once said in a sermon, "If one of them looks at me that way I'll kill him and tell God he's dead." - hardly a Christian attitude, as we're supposed to forgive our enemies. Who is SO bad that Jesus wants us to kill them instead? Nobody I know of. As such, I would feel dubious about relying on Swaggart as a scriptural authority.
---StrongAxe on 7/3/14


I once heard my mother say "I'm so mad I could kill her!" But I don't think she actually wanted to kill anyone. I also heard her once say "I'm so hungry I could eat a horse!" But, again, I don't think she actually could have eaten a horse.


Democrat Christian Possible
  
Peter, people who have done all they can do to find a job have a job.


Obedient To An Angry Husband
  

Should Christians try to prevent (through new laws) non-Christian women from having abortions?

Should we try to make abortions illegal?

What is your view?

---Peter on 7/1/14


Umm.... Duh!


Democrat Christian Possible
  
Peter, maybe your missing something. I was accused of supporting starvation like Leon supports abortion. But of course, nobody supports starvation. The point is absurd.


Democrat Christian Possible
  

Starvation is also a type of abortion, but you right-winged hypocrites are okay with that!
---Leon on 7/1/14


Actually, I'm not okay with that. And I have never voted to legalize parents to starve their children. I have never said "I wouldn't starve my children, but if other parents want to do it they should be allowed to have the choice." Nope. I'm just as much against parents starving their kids as much as I am against abortion. And if I'm correct (and I'm sure that I am) you will go to jail and have your children taken away if you starve them, as it should be. If starving your children is ever legalized, I'll be the first one to throw a royal fit about it.


Lord Help Me Help
  
So God closes a door to keep us from going the wrong way, then opens a window so that we can bypass the door?


Democrat Christian Possible
  
NurseRoberts, Churches cant replace every deadbeat lazy parent in the country who refuse to work and provide for their kids. Sadly, welfare doesnt help any either. Children on welfare continue to go to bed hungry and their families remain in poverty for decades. I dont see welfare lifting anyone out of poverty. It would be a great idea if it worked, but it doesnt. Because the problem is not that their parents are incapable of getting food, its that they are neglected by their drug abusing deadbeat parents. Many churches have pantry doors wide open but their shelves remain stocked and children continue to be hungry because.the parents are too lazy and self centered to go to the pantry and get FREE food for thier own kids.


Obedient To An Angry Husband
  
NurseRoberts, now you mock those who obey the bible? Incredible!


Lord Help Me Help
  
Finally NurseRoberts and I can see eye to eye on sonething. Didn't think that was possible! :) Luke, I'm glad you understand my point. I have always heard the quote with "God" in it. One famous example is in the movie "The Sound of Music" toward the beginning, the nun, Sister Maria is praying and says this quote.


Democrat Christian Possible
  
NurseRoberts, Churches cant replace every deadbeat lazy parent in the country who refuse to work and provide for their kids. Sadly, welfare doesnt help any either. Children on welfare continue to go to bed hungry and their families remain in poverty for decades. I dont see welfare lifting anyone out of poverty. It would be a great idea if it worked, but it doesnt. Because the problem is not that their parents are incapable of getting food, its that they are neglected by their drug abusing deadbeat parents. Many churches have pantry doors wide open but their shelves remain stocked and children continue to be hungry because.the parents are too lazy and self centered to go to the pantry and get FREE food for thier own kids.


Democrat Christian Possible
  

The Bible also commands to feed the hungry, cloth those who need it, and help the sick.

Sounds kinna socialistic to me..

---NurseRobert on 6/29/14


That's because you don't know the difference between socialism and charity. BTW: Our welfare system does none of the things you just listed.



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