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Why Did Paul Swim
"If was just about money. Why did Jesus say no weapon formed against you will prosper?....
---Bryan on 7/17/14

Your question is like asking "If cats climb trees, why does your car run on gasoline?

It doesn't even make sense.

It IS about money. Did you not read the verses I quoted? The context is clear. Don't butcher the word of God you claim to hold in high regard

And you have to ask "if" ???

Second, Isaiah 54 is about the FUTURE of Israel. What kind of weapons do you see in Philippians 4 ??

There aren't any. Because Paul was talking about MONEY

Why Did Paul Swim
"and we did not Complain.

I like it."

---aka on 7/16/14

Thanks, brother. Contentment in Christ....unbeatable

BTW, been a while since we've hollered at each other. How have you been?

Why Did Paul Swim
Phil 4:

10 you have revived your [financial] concern for me, but you lacked opportunity

11 Not that I speak from [material] want

12 I have learned the secret of being filled and going hungry, abundance and suffering need

13 I can do all things through Christ who gives me strength

14 Nevertheless, you have done well to share [money] with me in my affliction

16 I am amply supplied, having received [the money] you sent

17 Not that I seek the gift itself....

Thanks for the money. But whether I get it or not, I have learned contentment in every financial situation, through Christ

Confusion In Churches
By rigidly following this thinking, Romans was written "to all who are beloved of God in Rome," not to us, and Corinthians was written to those at Corinth, and Timothy to Timothy, and so on.
---Rod4Him on 7/12/14

Good stuff.

I have tried to reason in this fashion before, and it falls on deaf ears.

Why Did Paul Swim
When Paul said he could do all things through Christ, it was in the context of money.

The church at Philippi had already given to him. This is the "good work" that God began in them, which would be carried to completion (1:5-6)

Paul was essentially telling them that whether or not they were able to give, he would find his contentment in Christ.

this is not an enchantment to win football games, or lift heavy boulders, or perform a tracheotomy.

Confusion In Churches
If works of faith in Jesus Christ, are not required to receive Eternal Life, why would Paul say in (Romans 2:6-7), that Eternal Life is a reward for doing good?
---David on 7/6/14

If you read carefully Romans 1-4, Paul is flowing from bad news to good news.

God does reward those who by doing good seek glory. Everyone - Being a Jew counts for nothing anymore (ch. 2)

Therein lies the rub - we've all sinned and fallen short of the glory of God. (ch. 3)

The solution is the death, burial and resurrection of Jesus Christ. (ch. 4)

Then we are returned to our state of righteousness, whereby we can share in Christ's glory, at the renewal of all things (8:14-30, see Matt 19:28-29)

Do You Own A Bible
I rarely use the KJV, but it is in my parallel bible along with NIV, NASB and Amplified.

I also occasionally reference the ESV.

But what I use most are the NASB, and I have an interlinear New Testament with NRSV margin, which is excellent.

Just yesterday, I received an Apostolic Polyglot interlinear Septuagint + New Testament, so I have both testaments in Greek.

I teach a children's Sunday School class, and have chosen a One Year Bible for children (NLT) for our curriculum.

Confusion In Churches
David, it is clear to me James says the faithful, who follow Jesus their Saviour, will prove their faith is real by the good works they willingly do. Conversely James says those who claim to have faith, but have no works will not be saved.
---Warwick on 7/6/14

James said no such thing as anyone proving their faith is real.

He said they prove their faith is mature. Big difference.

verses 2:12 and 3:1 place his words squarely in the context if the Judgment Seat of Christ, where our works will be tested by fire to determine rewards for faithfulness

In Love With A Minor
Micha9344 has the only reply that appeals to biblical truth.

I've said it before, that our society would have Joseph imprisoned for being a perverted pedophile. But God apparently had no problem with a 30+ year old man being married to a 13 year old woman

Yes, woman. Not a little girl.

Even as close as 80 years ago, women would marry at 13-14 years old, many times to men in their 30s.

It is simply an unbiblical, societal whim to think there is something inherently wrong with this situation

Read This Prayer Salvation
....what we believe, becomes the measure of Truth....greater than the truth taught in the Bible....we seek out those few verses
---David on 5/24/14

exactly right

What I believe Trey is saying is,
that people read the Bible about predestination, but reject it....They rather stand for what they believe...


Yes. Some reject predestination, building a false doctrine.

But those who believe God has predestined some to go to heaven, have taken scriptures out of context and built a false doctrine, too.

Both accuse each other of building a false doctrine, and both are correct

Pot, meet kettle

Read This Prayer Salvation
"When I read many of the blogs concerning Predestination it reminds me of a friend of mine. She says, "Trey, I know what the bible says, but this is what I believe!" I just have to smile and chuckle inside. People read the bible and don't agree with what it says and then just make up their own beliefs."

so which is worse? Rejecting what is said and building a false doctrine, or taking the words out of context and building a false doctrine?

pot, meet kettle

When Were Angels Created
// the workmanship of thy tabrets and of thy pipes....(KJV)

Wow, Anyone can rearrange words to say anything they want scripture to say...gee wizz.

It says the workmanship of "thy" meaning his" tabrets and his pipes were prepared "in him" the day "he" was created.

start with a messed up translation, prop it up as supreme, and mock any other rendering - AWESOME job...I quoted from NASB

And again, you're missing the point - I'm not arguing for a position, but AGAINST the idea that someone else is stupid or prideful because they don't agree with you

I don't really even have a view on this issue. This is less than a side note, really

When Were Angels Created
Ok where exactly does it say satan was "created" on the day the garden was prepared?

You were in Eden, the garden of God
Every precious stone was your covering.....
On the day that you were created
They were prepared.
You were the anointed cherub who covers,
And I placed you there.
You were on the holy mountain of God

The Garden of Eden was NEVER referred to as the HOLY MOUNTAIN OF GOD.

Who said it was? But both phrases are used in connected verses.

I'm not being dogmatic. I said SEEMS to indicate.


I haven't been emphatic, other than saying the belittling of Micha is unwarranted

Read This Prayer Salvation
Who's oferring?

Are you serious? many things that will disqualify a man from inheriting the kingdom of Christ and of God?...

Having eternal life is NOW - John 5:24, 6:47

Inheriting eternal life will be in the regeneration - Matt 19:28-29

It is for believers who have left all. your work heartily, as for the Lord rather than for men, knowing that from the Lord you will receive the reward of the inheritance. It is the Lord Christ whom you serve. For he who does wrong will receive the consequences of the wrong which he has done, and that without partiality. (Col 3:23-25)

But they will still have eternal life.

Read This Prayer Salvation
These folks also teach, You can not be saved by what you do....

I point out they are teaching that we save ourselves by what we do.//
---David on 5/17/14

I agree 100%. Any time we offer salvation "if you do this"... we are diminishing the cross.

and to the one who said trusting a prayer or card is not enough, WRONG!!

Christ alone, thru faith alone

trusting prayer is too much

When Were Angels Created
I think Micha is being unfairly bashed with 99.999% opinions. So what. 100% opinion at one time said the world was flat.

Or that Micha is scripturally dumb. I've seen a lot of scripture in his/her posts. Hardly dumb

Ezekiel 28:13 seems to indicate that the garden was prepared on the same day Satan was made.

I know the context is aimed at the king of Tyre, but why call him cherub? Why reference Eden?

worth taking a look

Read This Prayer Salvation
//...but do feel that I must intervene next time and, somehow, get the words sin and repentance into the discussion and pray for a good opening to say more. //

the only issue with preaching "sin and repentance" is leaving the idea that - you got yourself in this mess (sin), now you get yourself out (repent)

I heard this type of message for years, believing I make myself right with God.

If you intervene, you must preach the cross. Rescue for sinners, healing for the spiritually sick.

Please don't throw them into the ditch of self effort

Charismatic Movement
\\ Tell me one miracle Jesus did in his resurrected body? \\
---Bryan on 5/5/14

\\ Jesus teleported Himself (for lack of a better word) from Emmaus back to Jeruslem. \\
---Cluny on 5/5/14

I couldn't believe Bryan's challenge, but immediately thought of this incident, too.

He simply appeared, then simply vanished.

If that ain't a miracle....

But to think that He, while in the likeness of sinful flesh (Rom 8:3), could perform a miracle - but the risen Christ couldn't ???

Yowza, I thought I had heard it all

How To Join A Cult
\\ a true Christian loves the Lord with all his heart and soul..... //---Luke on 4/30/14

If that were true, why would we be instructed to do so?

Why would God to tell us to do the inevitable?

How To Join A Cult
I think Rita and Cluny, together, got real close.

Concerning the victim, he/she is looking for something. Maybe something bigger than self, maybe truth, acceptance, etc

But someone in the cult took the time to find the seeker and offer something appealing - even if it's false

The victim doesn't set out to become enslaved, but is open to anyone who seems to care

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