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David With Many Wives
  
Leon:

You said: I just pointed out God doesn't operate by our time table when dealing with sin, e.g., polygamy.

Show ONE VERSE ANYWHERE that says polygamy is sin. You are reading your own personal prejudices into scripture - eisegesis, rather than exegesis.


Pray For StrongAxe
  
Thanks again to all for the continued prayers. The chemo seems to have gone well so far. The possible surgery is for a minor unrelated issue, but it seems to be improving slowly on its own so perhaps surgery may not ultimately be necessary.


Christians Do Whatever They Want
  
So-called Christians who behave like this are all up on the freedom-from-bondage preaching of Paul. Unfortunately, they seem to totally ignore the teachings of Jesus (i.e. the one whom Christianity is SUPPOSED to be all about). How can you love your neighbor as yourself if you have no sense of responsibility about how you treat him?


David With Many Wives
  
Leon:

I have no idea how the Lord's perception of the length of a day has anything to do with whether the Bible permits polygamy. Please enlighten me?


Pray For StrongAxe
  
Thank you all! They say I have leukemia and will be in here for anooher 2+ weeks of chemo. After that, probably more, but who knows?


David With Many Wives
  
Samuelbb7, Leon:

While this is true, it does beg the question:

There are so many things that were God's Will, about which he got very specific in the Law of Moses. If monogamy and no divorce were so important, why was God silent about it until 4500 years AFTER Moses?


Leon:

I am not questioning whether polygamy is GOOD - merely whether God allowed it.


David With Many Wives
  
Leon:

Despite the fact that it was never explicitly authorized, it very telling that God had many opportunities to complain about it but didn't - including never criticizing any of the patriarchs for it. And portions of the Law speak of it as if it's an common (and permitted) practice.


Call To Prayer Today
  
Elena_9555:

Over the years that I have seen you blogging here, I have always considered you to be one of the most sensible and compassionate bloggers here, and you always seem to resist getting drawn into all the cat-fights that seem to happen!


Liberals Versus Christianity
  
micha9344:

Liberals are typically for funding social programs that help the poor who cannot help themselves. Conservatives are constantly trying to defund such programs, while at the same time pushing for subsidies for large corporations, and larger military appopropriations. Who is "generous" here, and who is miserly?


Trav:

Wouldn't taking food out of the mouths of starving children and instead giving money to rich corporations - isn't that calling evil good? Isn't this similar to David taking Uriah's wife, and having him killed in the process?


Call To Prayer Today
  
Elena_9555:

That quote was to emphasize just how hysterical people get about something that is not that serious yet. There has been ONE single Ebola-related death in the U.S. and people are totally freaking out.


David With Many Wives
  
Leon:

If you actually look at the patriarchs, most of them did NOT practice polygamy for the purposes of lust. Some of them could not get children from their primary wives, so they took additional ones to continue their family name an inheritance. Jacob took two because he contracted for one, but was swindled with a bait-and-switch, so he worked for both. Some (like David) acquired them as rewards for military victories. Some (like Solomon) took them to cement treaties with other surrounding countries. Do you honestly believe that one man could keep 1000 women satisfied? I would expect that, rather, that would have been quite a headache!


What Is The Real Gospel
  
Warwick:

I prefer not to quote things like this from memory, lest I accidentally do the same thing. Unfortunately, the posts scroll off the blogs so quickly that that it's hard to find anything more than a few days old. Plus, this week I seem to have the flu, so if I don't have enough energy to put in a full day at work, I certainly don't have enough to attempt deep search engine research. But I'll keep the question in mind for later.


What Is The Real Gospel
  
Warwick:

You said: Do you notice: I have, as always answered your question but have not had the same courtesy from you, I ask again: "Please give some examples of "ad-hominem attacks" etc.

Again, I was referring to some people here who stoop to such measures, not you. I don't always answer all questions because of the posting limit (if I answer one question in a blog, I can't reply to another for a while), or because my schedule doesn't permit me to answer messages every day.


Liberals Versus Christianity
  
Trav:

Don't forget that the word "liberal" occurs several times in the Bible, and almost always in a good, positive light. You might say "But what the Bible means by Liberal is not the same as what we mean now", but if so, it means that you're ignoring what the Bible says, in favor of what society says.

Also, liberal-haters all too often lump everyone into one basket - i.e. supporting every single stereotypical "liberal agenda", which is definitely NOT true. There is a very broad variation of opinions among liberals, just as among conservatives, just as among Christians.


Call To Prayer Today
  
Somebody said that more people have been married to Kim Kardashian than have succumbed to Ebola in this country. Sometimes people panic WAY too quickly.


David With Many Wives
  
aka:

I have never said polygamy is "good" - merely that it is nowhere prohibited in scripture. Many people insist that some things are wrong because the Bible condemneds them - while it does no such thing. they need to understand that their views come from somewhere other than scripture.

It's curious, though, that none of the prophets spoke against it, even though they had plenty of opportunity, and they certainly railed about other things. I wonder why they never mentioned it?

Also, wouldn't it be a bit disingenuous of God to give lists of hundreds "thou shalt nots", then have a bunch of other things he hates but doesn't tell us about, just blames us for later anyway?


What Is The Real Gospel
  
Warwick:

I have never noticed any blogs going over 75 posts. Can you show any examples?

I wasn't referring to you specifically. I've just noticed that people on here (including some with whom I frequently agree), who frequently use sarcasm and ad-hominem attacks, are more likely to have posts deleted (possibly because of those very things).


David With Many Wives
  
Leon:

The Bible has no dictionary, so we must rely on third-party sources. I was referring to "for one's personal delight". Where do you get that?


Adetunji:

I speaking of what God actually wrote, not what people read between the lines.

That some people are singled out with a restriction implies that restriction doesn't apply to everyone else.

God made only one wife for Adam, which means that one wife is good. But it does not follow that two are bad. Adam likely had black hair, Does that mean God hates blondes? It's hard to argue policy from a single example.


What Is The Real Gospel
  
Warwick:

You said: Cliff, the moderators of this site appear to have JW leanings. I like you, and others regularly have trouble getting blogs posted...

Really? Moderator comments seem much more like evangelicals, and I frequently challenge JW scriptural revisionism and almost never have posts rejected. Perhaps because I stick to facts, rather than emotional rhetoric, sarcasm, and ad-hominem attacks, like some here do.

Attack sheep? Really?


Are There Bible Based Churches
  
Lawrence:

You repeatedly write: Glory to God The Father which who Is Jesus Christ.

It's clear that you are just parroting this, because even after many times saying it, you never noticed the glaring grammatical error in it? i.e. "which who"?



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