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Tongue Speaking Biblical
  
\\Cluny If I knew someone was speaking out of their own fleshly soul and not by the true move of the Holy Ghost I would not say a word.\\

You speak in your flesh all the time, Darlene.

That's the point I was trying to make.

Glory to Jesus Christ!


God Of Opinions Of Man
  
\\No one's word should be accepted over the word of GOD. Which EG White supported.. \\

Is this why EGW said the "angel" that took her through outer space also said she might be among the 144,000, even though the Bible makes it clear that these are Jews?

Glory to Jesus Christ!


God Of Opinions Of Man
  
\\ There is no mention of the moon on EW, p. 39, but on p. 40, she says:\\

More psychobabble, jerry?

Glory to Jesus Christ!


Eternal Son Of God
  
\\Which is correct, and why?\\

Either is correct in English.

The KJV had all pronouns referring to God in lower case, except when the first word of a sentence.

This convention was changed in the RSV.

There are some languages, such as modern Hebrew and Arabic, that do not have capital letters.

Glory to Jesus Christ!


What Is Real Presence
  
\\Samuel, I'm surprised you have never heard many who say Augustine brought many gnostic teachings into Christianity\\

Name one such person, please, citing where the writer said this, and what the particular gnostic teaching/s was/were.

\\I don't MAKE UP LIES Samuel.\\

Yes, you do, kathr. You falsely accused Monk Brendan of trying to eat his way to God and heaven.

Blessed, praised, worshipped, and adored be our Lord, God, and Savior Jesus Christ on His throne of glory in Heaven and the most holy Mystery of the Eucharist.


What Is Real Presence
  
From the Orthodox viewpoint, no.

The Sacrifice was offered once for all. It is simultaneously eternally pleaded in heaven, and we are present at it in the Divine Liturgy.

However, I don't expect you to understand this.

Blessed, praised, worshipped, and adored be our Lord, God, and Savior Jesus Christ on His throne of glory in heaven and in the most holy Mystery of the Eucharist.


Tongue Speaking Biblical
  
\\I realize not every person who claims The Gift of the Baptism of the Holy Ghost with tongues really has experienced Him.\\

And if you came up to some of these people you think have not really experienced the Holy Spirit and told them so, what do you think they would say?

Why the very same thing you said to me earlier: "I know because of my faith in God."

\\I know too not all who do receive are studied in the Word on the proper manner to be used by God and some get in the flesh.\\

OTOH, you never get in the flesh, do you, Darlene?

Glory to Jesus Christ!


God Of Opinions Of Man
  
Here's psychobabble from EGW about her trip into outer space, from EARLY WRITINGS, page 40

\\Then I was taken to a world which had seven moons. There I saw good old Enoch, who had been translated. On his right arm he bore a glorious palm, and on each leaf was written Victory. Around his head was a dazzling white wreath, and leaves on the wreath, and in the middle of each leaf was written Purity, and around the wreath were stones of various colors, that shone brighter than the stars,...\\

Look it up.

Glory to Jesus Christ!


God Of Opinions Of Man
  
\\And, of course, looney cluny's assertion about Enoch being in the solar system is another laughable lie.
\\

I agree. What EGW said about Enoch being in the solar system is a laughable lie.

But the rest of what you said is just psychobabble, jerry.

Glory to Jesus Christ!


What Is Real Presence
  
\\Kathyr I have only read a few
things by Augustine. I saw no evidence of him being gnostic. Do you have any evidence of this charge?
\\

St. Augustine when through a Manichean period before his conversion, but he was never a gnostic.

Manicheeism might have some points in common with gnosticism, such as the inherent evil of matter--which is why neither would accept the Incarnation--but they were two different systems.

Glory to Jesus Christ!


What Is Real Presence
  
\\ Wow Cluny, obviously the truth has caused you to react like a pharasee. Do I see murder in your words? \\

kathr, thank you for blessing me and adding to my heavenly treasure.

BTW, vituperation is more effective when correctly spelled. The word is "Phar**I**see". There is not a second "a" in it.

Glory to Jesus Christ!


God Of Opinions Of Man
  
\\ And, of course, looney cluny's assertion about Enoch being in the solar system is another laughable lie. \\

See EARLY WRITINGS, p. 39, about Enoch being on a moon.

Glory to Jesus Christ!


What Is Real Presence
  
\\If you have bypassed this step, and believe you can EAT YOUR WAY TO GOD, OR Heaven...\\

kathr, if you were baptized by immersion, do you believe you are swimming your way to God?

The only thing that keeps your words from being the rankest blasphemy is the utter ignorance and blindness that prompted your accusation.

Glory to Jesus Christ!


Tongue Speaking Biblical
  
\\I don't need to explain myself to Him \\

Jesus said we will have to account for (that is, explain) EVERY idle word we utter at the Last Judgement.

Who's right: you or Jesus?

Glory to Jesus Christ!


What Is Real Presence
  
\\Also,at the last supper, we see nowhere Jesus actually TURNED, wine and bread into HIS flesh and blood. \\

Speak for yourself, kathr.

You can't see because you are spiritually blinded.

Glory to Jesus Christ!


God Of Opinions Of Man
  
Is EGW's claim to have conversed with Enoch on one of the moons in the solar system (Jupiter, I think) the opinion of a mere woman or to be accepted as the Word of God?

Glory to Jesus Christ!


Tongue Speaking Biblical
  
\\Cluny I know because of my faith in God.\\

Darlene, do you want me to accept this as a reason why you're not being spiritually deceived?

Then you MUST do the same thing for me when I say that I know we receive the true Body and Blood of Christ in Communion because of my faith in God.

As for thinking you're being pulled down, St. Peter says, "Always be ready to give at any time a reason for the hope that lies in you."

So far, all your answers boil down to, "I think so."

Glory to Jesus Christ!


Tongue Speaking Biblical
  
\\Cluny I know because of my faith in God.\\

Every believer in every false teaching in the world says that, so that's no proof.

Some Pentecostals are Trinitarian.

Others (mistakenly calling themselves "Apostolic") are not. They are Oneness, which is nothing more than the old heresy of Sabellian Modalism.

They both say their faith in God is proof they are right.

Yet, they cannot both be right--though both can be wrong.

Which one are you, Darlene?

Glory to Jesus Christ!


What Is Real Presence
  
\\Do YOU believe that you are actually eating raw flesh and blood?
\\

And yet more psychobabble, jerry.

How do you do it?

BTW, I am NOT Monk Brendan, so why are you expecting me to answer questions put to him?

Glory to Jesus Christ!



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