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Doctrine Of Immaculate Conception
  
\\ Jesus got His sinful nature from His mother. \\

Wrong again, Jerry. Jesus didn't have a sinful nature.

If this is what SDAs believe and teach, then all should receive proper baptism if they become Christians.

john, again I ask you, why do you keep saying I'm defending the doctrine of the IC? Please provide ONE QUOTE where I did so.

If you cannot, I will refuse to defend myself against your straw man any more.

Glory to Jesus Christ!


What Is Church Discipline
  
Who determines just what is "acting in an unchristian manner?"

There is a Paraguayan protestant pastor who says that fidget spinners are demonic because one makes the "sign of the devil" (whatever that is) in playing with one.

Some say that playing cards or smoking (my grandmother did this with members of her Sunday School class).

As for adultery, Jesus said what should be done in John 8.

Glory to Jesus Christ!


Be Angry And Don't Sin
  
There is a righteous indignation which motivates us to act against evil, oppression, and the like.

Jesus was righteously angry when he drove the profiteers out of the Temple.

It was righteous indignation that led to the abolitionist movement and to the civil rights movement of the 1960's.

Glory to Jesus Christ!


Greatest Threat To The World
  
\\Seems you hope to justify your support for baby slaughtering Left \\

BZATTT!

Wrong again, Haz27 but thank you for playing.

I can assure you from personal knowledge that StrongAxe is pro-life.

Glory to Jesus Christ!


Greatest Threat To The World
  
\\AXE. As you know, CN limits forces us to be concise. I refer term Fascists to violent Lefties, of whom there are many throughout the West. Peaceful Lefties like you and Nurse clearly do not behave with their trademark violence. \\

Fascists were actually violent RIGHTIES.

I know StrongAxe personally. Whatever he may be, it's neither a fascist nor a leftist.

He's like the rest of us: liberal in some things, conservative in others.

Glory to Jesus Christ!


Doctrine Of Immaculate Conception
  
\\I believe it is after, because the Greek word used in Gabriel's statement you have translated as "Full of grace" is 'charitoo\\

Actually the Greek word here is KEChARITOMENI, which is one of the past tenses of the verb you cited.

It means "totally graced up", or more elegantly, "full of grace". Rendering the single Greek word to include 'favor" is one of the places where the KJV fudged the translation.

Glory to Jesus Christ!


Doctrine Of Immaculate Conception
  
\\Both of these quote Augustine saying unbaptized babies go direct to hell.\\

And they are both wrong.

FWIW, Limbo--in particular the Limbus Infantium--has never been de fide in RCC, and Orthodoxy never accepted it.

Glory to Jesus Christ!


Doctrine Of Immaculate Conception
  
]]You wrote: I know of nobody who worships Mary with the LATREIA given to the Lord. What's more, I don't think you do, either.

Have you ever visited any Latin American countries? It's very common there]]

Have you StrongAxe? I know that I cannot see into other people's hearts and know their real motivations. Can you in such a delicate matter as this?

Most Roman Catholics will admit that there has been a lot of bad catechesis.

Glory to Jesus Christ!


Doctrine Of Immaculate Conception
  
\\nor it there any reason to worship Mary as we do with Jesus. And that is the problem I see with this.\\

I know of nobody who worships Mary with the LATREIA given to the Lord. What's more, I don't think you do, either.

If that is happening with anyone, it's DESPITE the teaching of the Church, not because of it.

Glory to Jesus Christ!


Doctrine Of Immaculate Conception
  
\\Sir, it just a simple question I'm just trying to understand this from your Point of view as an Eastern Orthodox since you ask it a lot.\\

Actually, this is the first time I've ever asked it. Where did you get the idea I ask it a lot?

BTW, it was NOT St. Augustine who first posited IC, but his contemporary, the heresiarch Pelegius.

Glory to Jesus Christ!


Doctrine Of Immaculate Conception
  
]]Augustine was the great defender of this. ]]

IC didn't become an issue until a thousand years after Augustine.

\\He stated that unbaptized babies went to eternal hell. ]]

Wrong again, Samuel. Here is what St. Augustine actually said about unbaptized babies:

**, "such infants as quit the body without being baptized will be involved in the mildest condemnation of all.**

In other words, limbo. Such babies, he proposed, are in a state of natural happiness, but are deprived of the Vision of God.

Glory to Jesus Christ!


More Finish It Here June 2017
  
\\"Memorization of scripture has no power John. It's the "Holy Spirit" that brings scripture to our mind WHEN WE NEED IT,"

Tell us, do you believe the "Scriptures." are, "Theopneustos." meaning the Direct Words of God?"
---john9346 on 6/19/17\\

john, demons and pharisees and even Satan quoted the Scriptures to Jesus. But did their knowledge of the Scriptures do them any good?

Glory to Jesus Christ!


Doctrine Of Immaculate Conception
  
\\Now tell me, as an Eastern Orthodox what is your clear def of this RCC Dogma?\\

You still don't get that I'm asking PROTESTANTS what they think it means.

||Were you RCC before converting to EOC?
---john9346 on 6/19/17\\

Nope.

Glory to Jesus Christ!


Doctrine Of Immaculate Conception
  
\\Because how many times you ask this question and when those state their disapproval and why you will attack there position sounds like a defense. \\

Remember that the way things sound to you may not be reality.

It is one thing to disapprove of the doctrine of the IC. It's quite another to condemn something that doctrine does NOT say.

Do you get it, john?

Glory to Jesus Christ!


Doctrine Of Immaculate Conception
  
\\I find it very disingenuous of you being (Eastern Orthodox) seemly to defend this teaching...\\

Where did you get the idea that I was defending it?

I'm simply asking if people know what it really says. Can you grasp the difference between what I say and of what you're accusing me?

Do you what the doctrine actually says? If so, please answer.

If you don't know, admit it.

Glory to Jesus Christ!


Greatest Threat To The World
  
I remember back in the late 70's when the big ecological horror was over global COOLING. Even TIME and NEWSWEEK had cover articles threatening a new ice age.

Then in the 1990's, the big problem was the hole in the ozone layer.

Of the two, I'd presently say Islam.

Glory to Jesus Christ!


More Finish It Here June 2017
  
\\Augustine, Martin Luther (reformer), Jonathan Edwards, Charles Spurgeon, etc\\

Augustine and the other early fathers did NOT quote BCV because they didn't exist when these writers flourished.

The chapter divisions developed in the Middle Ages. The verse numbers were added AFTER the Reformation had started.

NEITHER are in the original.

I'm not saying this was a bad thing, but they were never part of the original inspired Greek, Hebrew, and Aramaic.

Glory to Jesus Christ!


Try To Quit Smoking
  
Of COURSE we cannot repent without the Lord's help. An old prayer says, "We have no power of ourselves to help ourselves."

Now you're grasping the secret of repentance.

This is one of the purposes of fasting. If properly used, fasting will reveal to us the depth of our brokenness and teach us to constantly and consciously depend upon God.

However, God works through people, too. There are anti-smoking groups, programs (one sponsored by my own state), and even meds. Humble yourself, look these up, and take advantage of them.

Glory to Jesus Christ!


Are Current Events Bad
  
I always pray during the news: for people who have been injured in shootings or accidents, for abused children, and those murdered. I pray for trials that the truth will be fairly determined.

Get the idea?

Glory to Jesus Christ!



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