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Prayer For Dallas Police
  
Nicole_Lacey:

You wrote: When the Federal Gov did ABOLISH Slaves, the Southern States withdrew from the Union. Thus the Civil War.

Withdrawing from the Union is not permitted under the Constitution, without approval of Congress.

This isn't Canada nor the United Kingdom.

If the Government gives you rights It can take them away.


How is it different? You used to have the right to own slaves, discriminate against other races, and consume cocaine, none of which you can do today because of federal laws. Other countries can similarly grant and take away rights.


Prayer For Dallas Police
  
Nicole_Lacey:

You wrote: The North did do that. Read history Black people were not slaves in the North.

On a state-by-state basis, but not on a federal basis. The federal government permitted slave ownership in the south.

Do you understand how our congress work?

Yes, I do. There are similar representational systems in other countries as well.

The solution was the 3/5 law. it was a start that chipped away slavery.

Yes, it was a start, but an imperfect one (that was eventually abolished a century later).


Who Is A Saint
  
aservant:

You wrote: Works that don't involve God may be good, but they are still 'dead' works.

Yet, many totally mundane works can still be vital. A mechanic who fixes a preacher's flat tire so he can preach a sermon that saves hundreds. A power technician who fixes a circuit breaker that supplies power to a TV station so a televangelist can reach thousands. A grocery store employee who washes vegetables so people who eats them at a soup kitchen don't get sick, etc.


Prayer For Dallas Police
  
Nicole_Lacey:

White people can't understand laws about blacks? You're a woman. Does that mean you can't understand laws about men?

The law doesn't MAKE Black people less of a human. IT HAS NO POWER!

I as talking about value under U.S. law, not intrinsic value. The law said slavery was legal (and allowed Northern police to enforce southern slave ownership). That doesn't mean it was OK with God either.

What did you want the North to do?

Disallowing slavery altogether would have been a good start.


Jerry6593 wrote: Current gun laws require background checks.

Then why does the NRA fight so hard when anyone tries to pass stricter background check laws?


Prayer For Dallas Police
  
Jerry6593:

You wrote: This is all lies. This is the bearing of false witness that you accuse me of.

The commandment forbids bearing false witness against your neigbor. Lies were reprehensible, but not actionable. Testimony directly accusing another WAS actionable and bore a penalty of double damages.

Laying aside its truthfulness, which you dispute, neither the report I quoted, nor my quoting of it, accuses you, nor anyone else of any offence. You, on the other hand, explicitly accused me of worshiping Obama, a violation of the first commandment, but a lie (hence your commandment violation)

Many mass shooters would have had trouble getting weapons if background checks (which NRA opposes) were done.


Who Is A Saint
  
Cluny:

You wrote: Jesus Himself said, "I no longer call you slaves [a tool by any other name], but friends."

Yet Paul called himself "Christ's slave".

Besides, aservant, God doesn't need anyone or anything to perform miracles.

Even if he doesn't need anyone else, he often acts as if he does. God didn't part the Red Sea totally by himself - he required Moses to raise his staff (and when his arm was tired, others had to help him lift it). There was one town where Jesus could work no miracles because of their lack of faith (so it DID depend on people).


Prayer For Dallas Police
  
Jerry6593:

Again with the ad-hominem attacks. Don't you ever give up? Remember, slander violates "Thou shalt not bear false witness", but you never let that stop you.

Yes, I'm Canadian. I cared enough about this country to learn about it and actually move here, and lived half my life here. I know more about American Constitution and civics than the average American (and many lawmakers, given the assinine unconstitutional laws they frequently try to pass again and again).

I do not worship Obama (accusing me of violating the 1st commandment? slander!) It's been shown that mass shootings are lower when access to guns is harder. Pro-NRA Republicans have more guns than pro-gun-control Democrats.


Who Is A Saint
  
Nicole_Lacey:

You wrote: Everyone in Heaven are Saints. ...

Which is why Holy Mother Church is wise enough to demand miracles from God to tell us if someone is in Heaven with Him.


If I read this correctly, does this mean that everyone who does NOT cause demonstrable miracles after death isn't a saint? If so, doesn't that mean that the vast majority of dead Catholics aren't saints (and thus, by your first claim, that most of them aren't in heaven either?)


Prayer For Dallas Police
  
Nicole_Lacey:

You wrote: 3/5 benefitted the Slaves!

Not as much as freedom would have. In fact, having more representatives just perpetuated their state of slavery.

Was 3/5 better than 0? Yes. Was it worse than 1? Yes. If the constitution had been truly fair, slaves would not have been allowed to be property at all, and both whites and blacks would have been allocated the same values. That inequity had to fester for a century before the civil war finally dealt with it.


Prayer For Dallas Police
  
Jerry6593:

You wrote: Weak Hatchet: Go back to Canada.

Are you capable of rational discussion without constant ad-hominem attacks? It appears not. Grow up.

2nd amendment says the right to bear arms shall not be infringed BECAUSE a well-regulated militia is necessary. They would not have needed to say that, if there were other implied legitimate reasons to bear arms.

We are discussing what the constitution actually says and means, not "reasonable policy". It said slaves are worth 3/5 of others. That was the law, but not reasonable.

To remove Muslims or left-wing Democrats, you must first repeal the First Amendment. You're welcome to try. But that will also endanger Christians. Do you want that?


Is Baptism Public
  
Cluny:

You wrote: I just thought that since the mikvaouth were segregated by sex, and people entered them naked, it was probably women who baptized other women.

What evidence, if any, do you have to believe New Testament baptisms were actually done in private, or naked? John's baptism was probably closer to the Jewish mikvah than Christian baptism was, yet it was done in public in a river, with participants likely clothed, and probably the Ethiopian eunuch's was as well (his driver was likely also present). It would have been challenging, but quite possible to baptize 3000 people in one day in a river en masse. It would have been virtually impossible to do them one at a time privately in one day, given only 20 seconds each.


Extreme To Believe In Bible
  
Jerry6593:

You wrote: You're right. Things started going downhill when the progressive socialist Communists took over about 100 years ago.

These various issues were fine, until the government consistently chose to give massive funds to the military, and tax breaks to wealthy individuals and corporations (including pharmaceuticals), and deregulating the environment, while under-funding education, health care, and other public programs. FDR didn't cause the Great Depression. He rescued us from it. It was caused by rampant stock speculation.

Note that all of the above are capitalist and Republican ideals, not socialist ones.


Prayer For Dallas Police
  
Monk_Brendan:

You wrote: I thought Protestants didn't like WORKS!

Protestants don't have anything against works. They just believe that salvation itself is dependant on faith alone, and not works. James himself said that good works necessarily proceed from good faith (and give evidence of it). However, it is the underlying faith itself that saves, not the works that proceed from it. In much the same way, pain is a symptom of disease, but not a disease in and of itself, and pain won't kill you, but the disease that causes it might.


Prayer For Dallas Police
  
Jerry6593:

Those thoughts are all laudable, but not constitutional, as they were not placed in either its body nor its preamble. It's curious that these very same founders, when they drafted the Bill of Rights, chose to explicitly mention a specific purpose for the right to bear arms - i.e. to form a militia, yet they did not mention the right to take up arms against an disagreeable government. If they had intended unrestricted use of arms, why would they have put the militia clause in there in the first place? They did not place similar clauses in any of the other amendments.

Also, "keeping their own arms" doesn't necessarily mean parading them all over town whenever you choose, nor aiming them at people you don't like.


Is Baptism Public
  
Cluny:

You wrote: I've already dealt with this issue. See below.

Not with the logistics. Let us assume this was all done in one 16-hour day - 960 minutes. With 3000 people being baptized, so if they were baptized one at a time, that's less than 20 seconds per baptism. That would have to be some very efficient process! On the other hand, if they baptized multiple people at once, each in a separate room, how many such rooms would they have reasonably needed, and where could they get such facilities on such short notice? Since the mikveh was primarily done for Jewish conversion, having 3000 people convert on the same day would have been unprecedented, so it's unlikely the Temple would have had the facilities to accomodate that.


Is The Universe Expanding
  
Jerry6593:

You wrote: Axe & Cluny: Are you guys seriously pushing geocentrism?

Where on earth (or, to be non-geocentric, in the universe) did you get that idea? Certainly not from anything I wrote.

If we perceive that stars are receding at the same rate in all directions, then we must be at the center of the universe.

Not so. If you had only paid attention to my balloon analogy (rather than ridiculing it) that would be apparent. EVERY point on the expanding balloon sees every other point receding, yet none of them is at the center of the balloon. This exactly correlates to the points you made - what I said agrees with you, rather than contradicting you.


Extreme To Believe In Bible
  
Jerry6593:

Have you thought about how monarchies arose? Those with the greatest wealth and power acquired land, more and more, until they owned all of it (which, I may add, the Bible prohibits), and then loaned it out at ridiculous rates to everyone else (i.e. the peasants), and by this means, perpetuated the status quo - i.e. they were rich, while everyone else wasn't. This is the essence of capitalism. The Golden Rule - he who has the gold makes the rules.

Look at how the U.S. compares to more socialist ones (e.g. Canada, Europe) in terms of education, health care, crime, poverty, etc. We used to be first in everything. Not anymore.


Prayer For Dallas Police
  
Jerry6593:

I know more civics than many natural born American citizens. I never said I don't like it here.

The second amendment mentions militias but NOT resort against government tyranny. If you own a gun not for militias but against the government, you are subverting both letter and spirit of the second amendment.


Monk_Brendan:

That only applies to searches (i.e. looking at something that is not in plain view). A policeman can't arrest you for something in your trunk, without a warrant. He CAN, arrest you for something in your car visible through a window, because by allowing it to be visible, you're voluntarily allowing anyone (including police) to see it.


Is Baptism Public
  
Cluny:

You asked: Where do Protestants get the idea baptism is a public confession of faith in Christ?

Maybe from the bible? There is no specific mention that any of them were private, but there is plenty of evidence that many of them must have been public. E.g. when John was baptizing in the Jordan, there was no opportunity for privacy there.

Also, if Acts 2:41 involved several thousand one-on-one private baptisms in one day, the logistics would be mind-boggling, You've heard of the voting fiasco in the Arizona primary with insufficient voting booths? Imagine how bad that would be with a single booth - and I can't imagine baptism is faster than voting.


Is The Universe Expanding
  
Jerry6593:

You wrote: Axey: Your grasp of science is on a par with your grasp of Holy Scripture

Once again, an ad hominem attack - which is exactly how children react when they disagree with a point that is made, but don't have a rational response. Adults either accept the point given, or provide a logical refutation of it, neither of which you have done.



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