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Greatest Threat To The World
  
In ancient Rome, beheadings were quick painless executions reserved for citizens. Non-citizens were subject to painful torturous crucifixions. Beheadings were similarly used to painlessly execute nobles in the Middle Ages, and in the French Revolution, and is also prevalent in Islam.--StrongAxe

StrongAxe
The Beheading of Roman citizens, nobles in the Middle Ages, and those during the French Revolution, were beheaded for their witness of Jesus Christ. Can you give me your source of reference?

Here's mine,... written in the Quran.

"Now when ye meet in battle those who disbelieve, then it is smiting of the necks...." (47:4)


Greatest Threat To The World
  
Jerry
The use of the words Civilization and Threat in your question, leads me to believe you are referring to the unsaved. For where others see threats, those who are sure of their salvation,....see promise.

I see Islam as the greatest threat for the unsaved. I say this, because there is nothing written about Global warming in the book of Revelation, but it does mention "Beheadings".

Islam is known for the beheading of those who don't believe as they do.(Revelation 20:4).....and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus...,,


The Power Of The Law
  
"A fool gets his knowledge from man, the wise....from God." Exactly. That is why my teacher is the Holy Spirit and not Paul. John 14:26.---barb

Barb
For me, the Bible gives confirmation, what I am taught, is from Gods Holy Spirit. I have never read anything Paul wrote, that's against what I have heard. Though,...I do wish Paul could have made his Grace teachings a bit more elementary.

I have a love/hate relationship with Paul's epistles. I love them for the mature believer, but hate for them to be in the hands of the immature believer. Those who've make Grace a license to sin.

After reading 1st and 2nd Peter again, they appear to be written by the same person. Do you believe Simon wrote 1st Peter?


The Power Of The Law
  
David, thanks for your kind and gentle response.

2nd Peter was most likely not written by Peter. You can check that out for yourself and some scholars believe it was tampered with.---barb


Barb
Your very welcome.
Scholars make me wince, for I see fools, where others see wisdom. A fool gets his knowledge from man, the wise.....from God.

You could be right about second Peter. Personalities can be seen in the writings, as you can see on CN. Folks can change their names, but their writing style identifies them much like their signature.

I'll read first and second Peter today, to see for myself, if the writing styles are the same.


The Power Of The Law
  
Barb
I Read through both first and second Peter. I see no difference in the personality of the writer.

My conclusion?
The same person wrote both first and second Peter. So either Peter wrote both, or someone who posed as Peter wrote both.

Many scholars also believe Paul wrote Hebrews, but to me, it's clear the personality of the writer of Hebrews is different from the one who wrote Paul's epistles.

Might be an interesting study to read through all of Paul's Epistles, to see if his writing style remains the same.


The Power Of The Law
  
Barb
I Read through both first and second Peter. I see no difference in the personality of the writer.

My conclusion?
The same person wrote both first and second Peter. So either Peter wrote both, or someone who posed as Peter wrote both.

Many scholars also believe Paul wrote Hebrews, but to me, it's clear the personality of the writer of Hebrews is different from the one who wrote Paul's epistles.

Might be an interesting study to read through all of Paul's Epistles, to see if his writing style remains the same.


The Power Of The Law
  
It breaks my heart to see the falsehoods of Paul meshed together with the words of Light and Truth. John 18:37.---barb

Barb
Paul used a different vernacular than the other writers, not a different doctrine. I love Paul's letters because I understand them. But on the other hand, I hate the way in which those who have no understanding use them to undermine the Gospel of Christ.

I would like to know your thoughts on the book of Acts, where we are given a bit of Paul's biography, which shows he was chosen by God?

Peter also wrote favorably about Paul, and warned us about those who use his teachings, but do not understand them. Do you discount Peters assessment of Paul too?


The Power Of The Law
  
I can understand how confusing it must be for folks, when Paul says, "We are not under Law", and Jesus tells us "God loves those who keep his commandments." How does this seemingly square peg, fit into a round hole?

For many years I fought against a single sin. Oh I had more than one, but God only punished me for this one. I tried to keep this commandment, not because I loved God, but because I lived in fear of Gods punishment.

And that's the difference, it's the reason we live in obedience to God. Those who were under the Law of Moses didn't keep the commandments out of love, they kept them out of fear. When you keep Gods commandments because you love him, that's what brings death to sin.


The Power Of The Law
  
Samuel
For many, Paul saying, "We are not under Law, but under Grace", means there is NO Law. Paul repeatedly, throughout his letters, tells us this was not his meaning.

Paul's meaning?
We are saved by Grace, we are saved because God loves us (John 14:21), and not because we keep the Law. We can not be saved by keeping the Law, because no man can keep the Law. What good is the Law?

Like Paul, it was a commandment that caused sin to die in me. It was a commandment I could not keep, though I tried to keep it. Since I tried to keep it, but could not keep it, it showed me that I was a slave to sin (Romans 7). This sin told me I was not saved, as long as that which caused me to sin, lived in me.(John 8:34-35)


Impossible To Sin
  
David. I suspect you say you're sinless because you think you obey the law perfectly. ---Haz27

Haz
I know you mean well in telling me these things, but just like Paul, God used a commandment/Law, to bring about my death to sin. (Romans 7:9)

I'm not arguing doctrine, I'm telling you a fact. I was a sinner, and I broke the commandment God put into my mind. For many years I broke it, and God would punish me every time I did.

But when I actually turned to God, at 41, and began a relationship with him, I tried to keep that commandment for a different reason. That reason was love. And after about 6 months, the desire to sin died. Not the Law, but sin.


Impossible To Sin
  
BTW, are you righteous, holy, sinless, perfect?---Haz27

Sinless, yes
Righteous, maybe
Perfect, no
Holy, no


The Power Of The Law
  
Micha
Sorry my friend, my mistake, same question I asked Haz


Impossible To Sin
  
When Paul saw paradise (2Cor 12:4) it clearly was not Hades as you suggest.---Haz

Haz
Hades was not the paradise Jesus referred to, it was death. I can't prove it, but for someone being crucified, I would think they would prefer death to life. Death is not as bad as folks think it is.

(Ecclesiastes 7:1) A good name is better than precious ointment, and the day of death better than the day of one's birth.


The Power Of The Law
  
-Opposed to David's view that laws are for the obedient.---micha9344

(Romans 2:13) For not the hearers of the law are just before God, but the doers of the law shall be justified.

Haz
According to the above verse, can you be justified without the Law? If so, tell us how.


Impossible To Sin
  
David. Why think in man's limited physical terms (1Cor 2:14).--Haz

Haz
Mans terms? Who created the day, God or man?

If "today" is a physical 24 hour period in the context Jesus used it, then that would suggest you're saying that Hades is paradise (Acts 2:27).--Haz

If you look up the word "paradise", you will see it's defined as heaven in our dictionary, but it is not defined as such in the Greek dictionary. Now, who is limiting their self to mans terms?

If Jesus was ministering in hades, do you honestly think the thief got to heaven before his savior?



Impossible To Sin
  
The criminal on the cross who called Jesus "Lord", overcame the world (1John 5:5), was cleansed of ALL sin and thus sinless---Haz27 on 6/6/17

Haz
Many people like to believe the thief on the cross went to heaven, but did he? Let's look at the facts.

Jesus said, "Today you will be with me in paradise", correct? Where did Jesus go when he died? Did he go to heaven? Wasn't he in the tomb for 3 days, and seen on Earth for many days after that, before he ascended into heaven?

So what ever Jesus referred to as paradise, it couldn't have been heaven, could it? Just think about this my friend, before you make the criminal your example of a Son of God.


Impossible To Sin
  
The Bible defines born of God as one who believes on Jesus (1John 5:1)--Haz

Haz
True, but doesn't the Bible also say in (1 John 5: 2 & 3), those born of God will keep his commandments? Gods commandments are called Laws, right? How do you keep Gods commandments when you are not under Gods Law?


The Power Of The Law
  
Micha
I'm not quite sure as to your objection. Are you confused because of the word commandments, and since you are not under the Law, you have no commandments to keep?

I understand your confusion. You must wonder, "How can I be born of God, and keep his Laws, when I am not under Gods Laws and have no need to keep his commandments?"

I hope your confusion leads you to the Truth.


Impossible To Sin
  
We're either saints OR sinners. You CANNOT be both. --Haz

Haz
I agree.
But the Bible defined a Son of God as one who doesn't sin (1 John 3:9) and a sinner as someone who does sin.

You and John appear to be saying you are Sons of God, but it's not because you don't sin, it's because you are not under the Law.
Am I understanding you correctly?

If I am, do you believe the same thing about Jesus Christ?
Do you believe the Bible say he was without sin because he was not under the Law, or was it because he never transgressed the Law?

Apples to Apples?



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