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Tearing Down Statues
  
David:

You asked Samuelbb7: What policies do they have in place that make white men rich, those policies that only make white men rich?

Trickle-down economics: pouring money into the top 1%, naively hoping it will trickle down to everyone else. Cutting health insurance for 22 million (mostly poor), and using the money saved to fund a tax cut for the very rich.

Even though these do not explicitly segregate by color, it's obvious that the percentage of whites is higher among the richer segments of the population, while there are disproportionatly more blacks and latinos among the poorer classes. Any policy that discriminates on the basis of income will thus also indirectly discriminate on the basis of race as well.


Tearing Down Statues
  
Nicole_Lacey:

Canada, UK, etc. use parliamentary systems. Voting for representatives who vote for a leader works like Electoral College, House, and Senate choose leaders, and a voting majority can still lose.

POTUS should be chosen by popular vote, as senators are now.

Why should the choices of the states be more important than the choices of the people who make them up?

Electors are allocated proportionally to population, so CA and NY already DO get more electors.

"Slavery" is not part of the "Democratic Party" name. The Republicans keep harping on the glory of their past and ignoring their reprehensible behavior of the present.


Tearing Down Statues
  
Nicole_Lacey:

I came here because the company I worked at was stagnating, while I had a much better opportunity with a rapidly growing company here. See The New Colossus.

The United States is a DEMOCRATIC REPUBLIC. It is a Republic because the people are ruled by a small group who are determined to be the best to do so (per Plato). It is a Democratic republic because those rulers are directly chosen by the people.

By your logic, we should not be ruled by the majority, but by the minority? In that case, why isn't Stein president?

As for name changing, that is done when someone is ashamed of their name. The Republicans are not ashamed of their name, and neither are the Democrats - which is why neither change their name.


God Does Not Love Me
  
faithforfaith:

Saying that you have such a great love for God that you won't even waste your time on anyone who loves God even slightly less is boasting and very Pharisaical, which is not a good thing. Telling someone who is suffering "I'm better than you are" doesn't help them, and saying "you haven't suffered enough" doesn't help them either.

NOBODY loves God enough to be "worthy". We are ALL unworthy.


Tearing Down Statues
  
Nicole_Lacey:

Do you approve of this kind of behavior? Because you're doing it yourself. The term "alt-right" was invented by Richard Spenser, who is on the right, and used by people on the right to describe themselves. The term "alt-left" was ALSO invented by the right, NOT the left itself.

Yes. The right projecting their own extremism onto the left.

It is a new term. The right adopted that term for themselves in the past year or so.

Why should the Democrats change? They are pro Democracy - i.e. the will of the people. More people voted for Hillary than Trump. Will the Republicans change THEIR names? If not, why not, since you seem to like the idea of name changing.


What Is Apophtatic Theology
  
Jerry6593:

The Father and Son are one - NOT one and the same. Jesus said, "Why do you call me good? Only God is good". The Father did not pray at Gethsemane to the Holy Spirit. At Jesus's Baptism, the Father did not pray to the Holy Spririt to send down Jesus.

Why does Jesus react to many situations (which I described earlier) differently than God had, if the same yesterday, and today, and forever, unless they are different persons, i.e. "God in THREE persons"?

The mixed multitude.

And who, exactly, were in that "mixed multitude" other than Israel? Which gentiles went with them into the desert for 40 years?


Tearing Down Statues
  
Nicole_Lacey:

What is "Alt-left", and why do you use that term? Extreme right-wing conservatives called THEMSELVES "Alt-right", so it is resonable to call them by the name they themselves chose. However, no liberals call themselves "Alt-left".


Cluny:

Originally, the Republicans, the Party of Lincoln, was the party of liberal progressives, while Democrats were the party of conservative racists. Since the 1960s, these two roles have switched places. For example, these days, the KKK sides with the Republicans, rather than the Democrats they did before that.


What Is Apophtatic Theology
  
Jerry6593:

1st Corinthians was written to the Church in Corinth - which was originally formed from the Jews in Corinth. Otherwise, "our fathers" makes no sense - the ancestors of the Jews passed through the Red Sea, but the ancestors of the Greeks didn't. The whole passage you quoted referred only to Jews.

You wrote: Moreover, the Sabbath Commandment was taught to THE PEOPLE (Jews & Gentiles) in the lesson of the manna PRIOR to reaching Mt. Sinai.

Just which gentiles were fed mana in the desert? I don't recall any.


What Is Apophtatic Theology
  
Cluny:

Considering Jesus's forgiving attitude towarsd sinners (e.g. the woman taken in adultery, tax collectors, prostitutes, the woman at the well, etc.) vs. God's Old Testament "one strike and your out" policies (e.g. The Fall, Cain, Moses rejected from the promised land, Sons of Aaron, Uzzah and the Ark, etc.), it's hard to imagine it's the same person in both instances, ESPECIALLY since God said "I change not".

That can be debated, but this is not the blog for it.

Why not? This blog (like most other blogs) has wandered far off the original topic anyway.


What Is The Curse Of Ham
  
joseph:

The verses I quoted were very clear that what happened was Ham SAW his father's nakedness, while the other two did not because they carried a skin in and walked in backwards. Throwing a skin over your father's wife is NOT a cure for adultery - which it would have to be, if your theory were correct.

The Hebrew word for Brother is more inclusive than just "sons of the same father". We sometimes see the same in English - both Christians and African Americans call others of their group "brother" without regard to familial relationships.


What Is Apophtatic Theology
  
Jerry6593:

The Ten Commandments were given to Moses on Mount Sinai, thousands of years before Jesus was born. They were given to Moses by the Father, not by the Son.

The Law of which He spoke was indeed the Ten Commandment Law, as he mentioned several of them.

Yet he also mentioned other commandments from the Law of Moses. Why do you keep insisting that we keep the Ten but not the other 600? You are being inconsistent.


What Is The Curse Of Ham
  
joseph:

Genesis 9:21:
21 And he drank of the wine, and was drunken, and he was UNCOVERED within his tent.
22 And Ham, the father of Canaan, SAW the nakedness of his father, and told his two brethren without.
23 And Shem and Japheth took a garment, and laid it upon both their shoulders, and went backward, and COVERED the nakedness of their father, and their faces were backward, and they SAW not their father's nakedness.

While your theory that Ham "uncovering Noah's nakedness" was a euphemism for adultery is interesting, the above 3 verses show that it was, in fact, simply seeing him naked, exactly what it says.


What Is Apophtatic Theology
  
Jerry6593:

John 15:15: If ye love ME, keep MY commandments.

Note that this was Jesus speaking. What commandments did HE mention? Love God, Love your neighbor, and a new one - love each other as I have loved you.

Again - are the Laws of Moses God's commandments or not? If they aren't, why did Jesus put them on the same level? And if they are, why don't YOU put them on the same level?


Give Up 501(c) 3 Status
  
Nicole_Lacey:

You wrote: NO. The Government would use the money for a host of immoral sins.

So what? When your employer pays you wages, it's up to YOU how you spend them. When you buy bread at the store, it becomes yours, and the store doesn't care how you use it - and the money you pay becomes theirs, and you have no say in how it is used. This is how the economy works. Once you pay taxes, they becomes the government's to use as the government sees fit.

Rome used its revenues to conquer other countries, enslave their peoples, support pagan temples, and impose their pagan beliefs on others. Did Jesus say "Don't pay taxes because they are used for evil purposes"? No. He said "Render unto Caesar".


What Is Apophtatic Theology
  
Jerry6593:

If you keep insisting that we are required to obey the Ten Commandments because they are God's Law, but we aren't required to obey the Law of Moses, because that is man's law, let me remind you that when Jesus was asked what the greatest commandments were, he did not mention any of the Ten, but instead, quoted two from Moses: Love God, and Love Your Neighbor. Apparently Jesus DID think the Law of Moses was the Law of God, and he DID think it was important.


What Is The Curse Of Ham
  
Google: "curse of Ham".

Ham gransgressed, so Noah cursed his son Canaan instead. This is part of the ancient tradition of "the father eats sour grapes, and the son's teeth are set on edge" mentality that goes back as far as the Fall - children are punished for their parents' transgressions, for many generations to come, or somebody else is. It's also common in other cultures. Zeus was a notorious philanderer, but instead of his wife Hera taking it up with him, she persecuted his innocent son Heracles. Man sins, God destroys most innocent animals. Saudi terrorists blow up the World Trade Center, Bush attacks... Iraq.


Friends With The Backslidden
  
Many people go through difficult times (by their own fault or not), and often lose most of their friends. The few who stick with them are very telling. Note Jesus's one parable that dealt with friendship - the Good Samaritan. Here was a person who was willing to be a friend, and go significantly out of his way to help even a total stranger from a different religion and culture - even through others who were closer and should have helped just walked away.

After the PTL scandal, most Christians abandoned Tammy Faye Bakker (because, you know, sin). The only people who stood by her were... drag queens - people she and her husband would have denounced and ridiculed. They were the Samaritans in this case, while Christians were the Pharisees.


What Is Apophtatic Theology
  
Jerry6593:

You wrote: Then you aren't a Christian either.

Please show chapter and verse where Christians are required to keep the Law. Gal 3:29 mentions nothing about it.

Do you really keep your wife in the garage? That's not part of the Ten Commandments.

Women are to be kept out of the house during their time of the month. That is part of Jewish law. Why don't YOU keep it?

What denomination are you?

I do not promote any specific denominational views here, because what I personally believe has no bearing on what others ought to believe. What the bible actually says (or doesn't say) does.


What Is Apophtatic Theology
  
Jerry6593:

There are "Christians" who believe they are free to lie, cheat, and steal, because they are not under the law. I am not one of those.

I am not a Jew, so Jewish law does not apply to me.

Do you make your wife live in the garage once a month? Do you stone your neighbors to death if they dare to work on Saturday? If not, what denomination are you that you feel no obligation to keep God's Law?

I have lived most of my life in this country. I am subject to its laws. I am subject to its economic and political trends. About the only thing that separates me from being an American citizen is that I am not allowed to vote, and I can be deported if I am convicted of a felony.



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